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1  Economy / Reputation / Amazon AWS & SES Account Sellers Tag & Flag Reference Thread on: April 22, 2021, 04:21:22 PM
Do Not Buy Accounts Without Using Escrow!

Amazon AWS and SES account sellers should not to be trusted!
Some may have actual accounts for sale, while many are opportunistic scammers that will take your money given the opportunity.
Also note that most, if not all the accounts sold on this forum are hacked or created using falsified documents.
It shouldn't be a surprise that participants of this unscrupulous activity would take advantage of you if given the chance.
Don't let yourself be fooled by the promise of saving a little money.
If you insist on engaging in this activity, use a trusted third-party escrow.


I've just been informed by theymos that AWS account sales have been added to the list of Banned Services:

This thread is intended as a reference for the tags and flags I plan to apply to ALL AWS account sellers.

As many of you know, there's a constant stream of scam accusations about those who sell AWS accounts.  It could be just one or a small group of scammers constantly creating new accounts to shed the red-tagged previous account.  I'm sick of it, and I'm resorting to extreme measures.  No more Mr. Nice Guy!

This isn't the first time I've gotten fed up with all the AWS account scammers here on the forum, nor is it the first time I've tried to do something about it.  At some point last year I got just as frustrated with these reports, and decided I would offer free escrow service to help prevent scams.  Well, that worked out for a short time, and I'd like to believe that I helped some people trade safely.  Obviously the scammers weren't happy about that, so at least one (possibly more) started harassing me with numerous alt accounts, here and on Telegram, effectively wasting more of my time than I could afford.  It worked, and eventually I was forced to abandon the project.  Admittedly this coincided with me becoming very busy at work, which only made the frustration of caving-in feel even worse.  Sadly, I had to admit that the fucking scammers won that round.

To those of you who see this as over-the-top, possibly even an abuse of the trust and flag system, I suggest the following:

To the rest of you, I hope you'll join me.

I've reached out to theymos about this use of the trust and flag system to get this thoughts.  Although I get the sense he sees this as an extreme measure, he indicated the use of the trust and flag system in this way is justifiable.  I won't attempt to put words in his mouth, I'm sure he'll share his feelings here if he wishes.
2  Other / Archival / Is JayJuanGee a CUNT? [Asking for a friend.] on: April 10, 2021, 06:22:33 PM
Just thought I'd help JayJuanGee out.  In a discussion about our resident cuntophrenic I found his ruminations regarding the absence of any attention payed to his cuntiness.

I am thinking that there is likely a reason that no one has started a thread calling me a cunt, and probably it is not because I am not a cunt, but instead because I would likely not take the bait as much as some people in terms of creating some entertainment value in the mere proddings..

I myself am impartial; if a man wants a thread about him being a cunt (or not,) who am I to argue?  This is 2021 after all.  We're all encouraged to explore our true inner-beings.


3  Bitcoin / Electrum / Electrum 4.1.0 released - Feature discussion on: April 01, 2021, 10:59:50 PM
I just learned that Electrum has released a new version, 4.1.0.  I read through the release notes, and it seems like most of the updates are related to Lightning Network.  This is good news.  Electrum is probably the most popular bitcoin wallet around, and as it become more and more user-friendly for lightning features it'll help the network gain more usage. 

I do, however have a question about this update that does not appear to be tied to the Lightning Network:

* The wallet creation wizard no longer asks for a seed type, and
   creates segwit wallets with bech32 addresses. Older seed types can
   still be created with the command line.

I haven't had a chance to download and play with the new version, so I'm not sure what this is getting at.  Does this mean that Electrum will no longer produce "Electrum Specific" seed phrases with derivation paths specified by the checksums?
4  Other / Politics & Society / Princess Latifa's capture and disappearance, and it's bigger implications. on: February 26, 2021, 09:43:49 PM
File in the "Life is stranger than fiction" directory.  

Recently the BBC's Panorama documentary series broadcast the story of Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum.  She's the daughter of Shaik Mohammed Al Maktoum, the ruling monarch of Dubai, an emirate of the UAE.  The documentary is about Latifa's attempted escape from Dubai, where she felt constrained by her father, family, and traditional treatment of women in the UAE.  Latifa attempted to escape in 2018, but the attempt failed when she was captured by Indian Special Forces on a yacht in the in Indian Ocean.  Her pleas to the Indian authorities for asylum were ignored.

Here's a link to the BBC's documentary:

Today, the Daily Mail issued a report that asserts there was a deal made between the Dubai monarchy and the Indian authorities.  Previous to the capture of Latifa, India had apparently requested the extradition of British arms dealer Christian Michel, who had been living in Dubai. Dubai had declined these request previously.  However, two weeks after Latifa's disappearance (capture) in the Indian Ocean, Christian Michel was secretly extradited to India.

Daily Mail article:

Up until now there has been surprisingly little coverage of this story despite it's salacious nature and barbarity; Latifa has been imprisoned by her father for three years, and now it's not known if she's alive.  World leaders seem to be looking the other way when topics of this sort were exposed, and the main-stream media hasn't been pressing on the issue either.  

In another surprisingly late move the Saudi Prince and presumptive heir to the Saudi throne, has now been implicated by U.S. intelligence in the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.  Why now?  Anyone who was paying attention knew the prince had to be involved, no one would have imagined such a thing happening without his knowledge.

The leaders of Saudi, the UAE, and others, have been doing these kinds of things for decades.  They are thugs, racketeers, and murders, but now it looks like the world is finally waking up.  What's changed?  Why are these stories being brought to light now, even though they are both three years old?
5  Economy / Reputation / The AdkinsBET Army of Alts on: February 13, 2021, 04:55:41 AM
This post is for reference for the accounts promoting the AdkinsBET sportsbook that appears to be scamming their clients.  The service was launched here on November 17th, 2020.  Since then there have been six scam accusation.  The first one, which was posted in December appears to have been solved.  Between January 11 and January 16, 5 more appeared.  Some DT members feel that the accusations bear merit, and have thus red-tagged the main AdkinsBET account.

Here's a list of the scam accusations I've found on the board:

[SOLVED] Adkinsbet scammed me 66.3mbt scam 0.555 BTC! help! PURE SCAM!
SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way
Adkinsbet .com scam 210mBTC
Adkinsbet SCAM

Ann Thread: Profile Link:;u=2882335

But, this thread isn't so much meant to discuss the scam accusations.  Each has it's own thread, and the accuracy of the accusations is yours to evaluate.  No, this thread is mostly about the accounts currently wearing the AdkinsBET signature and avatar.

The same day the Ann thread was posted, a signature campaign was launched:

Signature Campaign Thread:

But apparently it only ran for one week.  On the first day of the second week of the campaign the manager posted this announcement:


Effective immediately this campaign has been put on Hold. Adkinsbet informed me today that they have been under extensive DDos attacks and as such they want to pause the campaign until they've been able to solve all the issues and secure the website. Hopefully you all understand and I apologize if this seems to come out a bit late.

I believe the campaign will continue from next week which means that all of you can who are currently in can take part then again, for now you can remove your Signature & Avatar though.

Despite the fact that the signature campaign ended after a week, and hasn't been active since, there are eleven high ranking accounts that continue to wear the AdkinsBET banners.  Mind you that only two of these accounts were selected for the campaign, and the other nine have never been paid to advertise for AdkinsBET.

My suspicion is that all of these accounts (with the possible exception of Savemore) are accounts that were purchased by AdkinsBET for the sole purpose of promoting the service.  There seems to be a pattern with the accounts.  Notice that most have had their passwords changed in August or October of 2020, just a few months before the service was announced.  Most seem to have similar posting styles.  And most have been active within the last week.

It seems quite odd to me that all these high ranking accounts would promote, for free, a service that has been found to have valid scam accusations.  All of these peculiarities only bolster my suspicions.  Only someone planning a scam would buy a bunch of high ranking alts (one with green-trust) for the intention of using them to promote his service.  That alone seems shady enough for a red-tag.

UsernameBPIPRecent PWCRank
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Loan Default - asu u=519783 on: November 29, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
What happened::

On October 5th, 2019 I funded a loan to member asu for 0.3BTC.  Originally, the loan was to be repaired in six payments, and closed out in April 2020.  Asu made the first payment on time, in November of 2019.

In December of 2019 asu requested a an extension for his December payment.  I extended all open loans for one month, while giving my clients a month of free interest, including asu.  No payment was made by asu in December of 2019.  In January of 2020 asu made a payment, but could not make the full payment due.  He informed me that he would only be paying the interest due, but informed me that he would be back on schedule in February.  That was the last payment I received from asu.

In late February I gave asu an extension, and recalculated his loan with a reduced interest rate (retroactive, giving credit for interest already payed.)  In March I received another excuse, and no payment.

In April of 2020 I revised my lending policy due to the pandemic, and gave all my clients an open due date, but asked that they remain in communication with me.  I received no messages from asu between March 20, 2020 and July 22, 2020.  In July I sent him a message, to which he didn't respond.  The message was to ask about a promise to pay; at one point during our earlier discussions he claimed he would pay the loan in full in August.  I wrote to inform him that I expected him to comply.  After prodding him, he did respond, claiming he'll be able to pay 20-50% of the loan in August.  Not only did he not pay, but in late August the asu account stopped logging in, and removed his signature and his avatar.  I was convinced that he was exiting the forum without paying me back.

On October 8th, 2020, over a year after he took this loan, asu sent me this pm:

Hello DireWolfM14,

Can I ask for a bitcoin address to send some of my payment?

Iím really sorry for the delay as Iíve been working hard to pay all my debts. Please give me more time. Iím really really sorry.

Best Regards,

Again he promised to start making payments, committing to making a payment the first week of November.  Still nothing.  As it stands asu has not logged into the forum since November 4th.  Again I'm convinced that he has no intention of paying me back, and is only jerking me around to avoid being red-tagged and flagged.

Scammers Profile Link:;u=519783

Reference Link:

Amount Scammed:


Proof of Payment:

TxId: 1f208fbb5d9da2f02d4fd787986f7e4a1d7726fdcbee5a3c51e44a2cedd84a82

Scammer Flag:;flag=2497


Additional Notes:

Per this post in April, I established the below address for asu's repayment.

7  Other / Politics & Society / RIP: The Notorious RBG on: September 19, 2020, 03:19:32 PM
I only just learned about Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death this morning.  I wish peace for her family, and all those who are mourning in their time of sorrow.

Although I've frequently found myself at ideological odds with her votes on the supreme court, I can't help be proud when reflecting on her career.  As an American conservative who believes that all men and women are naturally granted certain inalienable rights, as equals, I consider her a champion of civil rights, and women's influence on politics.  Her contributions should be celebrated by all Americans, regardless of their political leanings.  As should her amazing, accomplished, and distinguished life. 

Rest in peace, RBG.  You served America with a true heart, and the whole world is better off for it.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / question about randomizing proxy connections on: August 23, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
Howdy y'all.

I recently decided to recommission a spare desktop as an Electrum server, and I'm curious about some of the settings in my bitcoin.conf file.  My goal is to make this server as secure and anonymous as possible.  I have firewalls on my modem, my router, and I've enable ufw as well.  I've opened port 8333 so I can have inbound connection to core, but I haven't opened up the port for RPC (If I do it will be for local network devices only.)  I don't plan to use this node as a wallet, so I've disabled those features.

My question is specifically about my anonymity and the proxy settings.  Currently I have the following settings in my bitcoin.conf file:

# Connect via a SOCKS5 proxy

# Automatically create Tor hidden service.

# Randomize credentials for every proxy connection. This enables Tor stream isolation.

At one point I had proxyrandomize=1 in the setting to turn on that feature, but I noticed that connections to peers was inconsistent, slow, and hard to obtain.  Is this feature worth using?  I can only imagine that it would help with anonymity, but I guess I'm not sure what it really does.  Can anyone help explain things to me a bit clearer?

Server configuration:
Intell I5 processor, 4GB ram
Ubuntu 20.04 with Python 3.8
Bitcoin Core Version 0.20.0

This is my first attempt to run a node as a server, so please share any information that you feel might be helpful.  Thank you.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Space Race Wagers? on: July 25, 2020, 09:31:30 PM
China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / elmanchez exit scam, loan default on: July 25, 2020, 06:12:42 PM
What happened::

On June 2, 2020 I gave elmanchez a loan for 0.3 ETH.
On June 3, 2020 I gave him another loan for 0.043 BTC.

On June 20 I received a message from elmanchez through telegram informing me that he will pay back the loans in time.  I have not communicated directly to him since then.  Shortly after that elmanchez deleted the telegram account he used in our communications.

Since then, the user account "elmanchez" has been associated with a banned user, suspected of attempting to use a banned account to feign trust as an established member, and suspected of selling accounts.  After this revelation, on July 20, 2020 I sent elmanchez a personal message here on the forum asking him for clarification about the loans.  To this date I have not received a reply, and yet I believe he has been active using other accounts.  

At this point I am of the belief that elmanchez has no intention of paying back the loans.

Scammers Profile Link:;u=2553198

Reference Link:

Amount Scammed:

0.3 ETH
0.043 BTC

Payment Method & Proof of Payment:



PM/Chat Logs:


Additional Notes:

Type 3 Flag link:;flag=2163
11  Other / Off-topic / The space age is upon us. on: May 30, 2020, 10:43:31 PM
I know the term has been used since the late '40s, but I feel it's only just begun.  Today the US launched two astronauts into space on a completely commercial rocket, for far cheaper than any space mission the US has executed it's self.  The age of commercial space flights is a distinct possibility now.  Maybe within my lifetime, and most probably within my children's lifetime average humans will be able to afford a flight to the moon or even Mars.

It's really an inspiring thing to witness, and would be even more amazing to have some participation.  I can't help but think we're on the brink of learning so much about our solar system.  The possibility of sending humans to the moons of Jupiter and Saturn seems more likely today than it did yesterday.  I hope I live long enough to see it.

12  Economy / Scam Accusations / SCAM accusations - a compilation on: May 17, 2020, 05:37:37 PM
Bitcointalk user account: Freewallet

Despite their name, Freewallet is not a wallet.  It does provide a custodial wallet as part of it's exchange services, but the name is misleading.  It's an exchange, and you are not given access to your private keys.  That's not how a wallet works.  Is that intentional or not?  You be the judge.

For years now there have been many scam accusations against Freewallet.  Often the dispute gets resolved after the client submits KYC, but there in lies the rub.  Freewallet does not mention KYC when creating an account.  They lure in their customers by insinuating that they can remain anonymous, but subsequently blocks withdrawals until the customer submits identification documents.

Their terms of service give them the authority to request ID, but their justification is somewhat vague.  Is that intentional or not?  You be the judge.

In case Freewallet detects suspicious activity on Freewallet account, Freewallet conducts AML/KYC procedure for the user. To be sure that nobody has unauthorized access to the users account, We ask to provide all necessary information for verification, including without limitation an ID, photo, screenshots showing the source of all your incoming transactions etc. The User is obliged to pass through AML/KYC procedures, which may be applied to the User from time to time, and provide accurate and truthful information about himself as well as maintain and promptly update his Freewallet Account information in case of any changes.
The User is obliged to provide the information and credentials as may be required by Freewallet from time to time in order to verify the ownership and/or source of funds of crypto assets of the third-party service that are remitted to the Userís Freewallet Account.
We reserve the right to limit the scope of our Services to users, who have not verified their identity and/or set up a necessary level of security of account and/or failed to prove the ownership and/or source of funds. Limitation of our Services may depend on the established security level of the account, for instance and the following criteria may be considered: verification of e-mail, social network authorization etc. Please, note that restrictions, mentioned herein are for illustrative purpose only. We reserve the right to limit the scope of our Services at our sole discretion and without prior notification to you.

As a result, there have been many instances where clients deposit funds, but are unable to withdraw them.  Again, that's not how wallets work.  The clients are then required to submit KYC documents, but often the clients complain that even after acquiescing to the requests their funds are still frozen.  It's not until many make their complaints public that their funds are finally released.  Is that intentional or not?  You be the judge.

Here's a list of scam accusations reported here on the forum.  I'm sure there are more, but I got tired of digging after 5 pages of google search results.  There are likely many more on other social media sites.  Some of these have been resolved, but almost all follow the pattern described above.  I did not confirm the validity of any of the reports below, you'll have to judge for yourself.

01. Scam - Millions stolen
02. SCAM ( Don't use any of their iOS or Android APP)
03. BIG SCAM, THIEF'S ( Don't use any of their iOS or Android APP )
04. is a SCAM
05. Freewallet is SCAM
06. Beware freewallet is a scam wallet !
07. - Racketeers of personal and financial data , and scammers .
08. [Unsolved after 70 days] is a SCAM, do NOT
09. is a SCAM!!(solved)
10. is SCAM !! DO NOT USE THIS WALLET !![Solved]
11. Monero FreeWallet is a [SCAM]
12. is a SCAM
13. Freewallet delaying refunding(Solved)
14. Freewallet stole over $1,000 in ZEC from me! [RESOLVED]
15. is a fraudster who cheated me out of 15.2BTC
16. is the Scam(sloved)
17. Solved - making me nervous! (at the end nothing to worry about)
18. scam ,no reason to say have is risk,
19. Freewallet makes me stress asking me proof ID and freezing my wallet
20. Freewallet lies to users
21. is a scam or they are just never satisfied
22. FreeWallet steal my DOGECOINS
23. [Help] wants to steal 35 XMR (Solved)
24. just blocked all withdrawals when trying to change 1BTC into USDT
25. Another Freewallet Scam
26. stole 55 000$! be careful SCAM

thanks to @logfiles for the list with titles.
13  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / KeepKey Chrome extension - no support as of June on: May 16, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
As of this coming June the KeepKey Chrome app will no longer be supported.  I knew this day would come once I saw that KeepKey LLC, the company that makes the hardware wallet had been purchased by (or merged with) ShapeShift.  The KeepKey was the first hardware wallet I ever bought, and it was just months before this merger, so I've been keeping an eye on development of the wallet and the ShapeShift service.

The loss of the Chrome app isn't such a big deal, it is very limited in functionality and can only access legacy addresses.  It does offer access to ETH and ERC20 coins, if you're into that kind of stuff.  I almost exclusively used my KeepKey wallet with Electrum, anyway.  But it does limit the options that available, and that's a drag.  Here's the official email I recieved:

Quote from: ShapeShift Team <>
KeepKey Update: Chrome Apps Support Ending

What This Update Means For You

Beginning in June, Google will be ending support for the Chrome Apps. We recommend all KeepKey Chrome App Client users move to the the ShapeShift Platform. The platform allows you to send, receive, trade, and securely hold your KeepKey assets.

The following assets will not be supported on the ShapeShift Platform when Google ends Chrome App support - BTG and the following ERC20s: AELF, CyberMiles, Kucoin Shares, QTUM, ODEM

We recommend using the KeepKey integration with MyEtherWallet for ERC-20 support.
For BTG support we suggest moving your assets to a different wallet, though they will remain safe on KeepKey after support ends.

Here is a guide for getting started with KeepKey in the ShapeShift Platform. If you have any questions during this transition, we're here to help! Contact our support team 24/7.


Apparently it's not just KeepKey, Google is ending support for all Chrome apps:

14  Economy / Service Discussion / Discussion of Escrow Services and AWS/SES accounts on: May 14, 2020, 03:59:08 PM
A few months ago I started providing escrow services, and did so free of charge.  Of course many clients sent me tips but I want to be clear; I wasn't doing it for the money.  My original motivation was to prevent naive newbies from getting scammed.

Over the months I gathered that most of my clients were trading Amazon SES accounts.  Before I started this project I knew nothing about these accounts, but I've since learned that most of the buyers are most likely email spammers, and the sellers are often creating these accounts by violating the TOS of Amazon.  Say what you will about scamming a large, wealthy organization, but I feel a scam is a scam regardless of the victim's ability to absorb the loss.

I realize that nothing I mentioned above is illegal, but it's not something I care to support or condone.  I also noticed a pattern occurring; a couple of my clients started advertising in their threads that I was willing to provide escrow services for their sales of these accounts.  After providing escrow for a few successful transactions, some of these guys started convincing their buyers that they can be trusted to deal direct, without escrow.  You guessed it, here comes the SCAM!

So, after giving it some thought I realized that I was actually providing legitimacy to these scammers by giving them the opportunity to build some reputation.  Quite the opposite of my original intention.  As a result I have decided to close my escrow service for the time being.

I'm not going to go into too much detail about how troublesome these transactions can be, but suffice it to say some have been by far the most aggravating and time consuming.  To make things worse, I suspect that one particular member has been stalking me on Telegram with the intention of wasting my time.  This member has been on a crusade against anyone and everyone who is buying and selling SES accounts.  He's using multiple accounts (on Telegram) to pretend that he has a trade, then after a significant amount of back and forth, he'll back out and request a refund.  This has happened several times in the last couple of weeks.

Couple all of this with the fact that I've been really busy IRL lately, and you can see why I've gotten so frustrated.  Which is a sad thing.  I want to be able to provide my service to the community, but I really don't appreciate being abused for it.

Which brings me to my question to the community, and specifically to those who also provide escrow services:  Do you guys avoid transactions that include these accounts?  How does the community feel about these account sales?  I realize that the administration of the forum is unlikely to change their policies regarding the sale of these accounts, and I wouldn't expect or want them to.

Please discuss.

This is a self moderated thread; please don't spam or go off topic.  
General reputation discussion will be permitted, but please refrain from turning this into a discussion about any one person's reputation.
Do not ask me for escrow services in this thread, you post will be deleted.
15  Other / Politics & Society / The deep state and Obamagate on: May 13, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
I've said it before, and I'm going to keep saying it;  The Obama administration will go down in history as the most corrupt, anti-American, unprincipled, most detrimental administration in US history.  Under Obama, the the ATF blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the DOJ blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  Under Obama, the State Department blatantly flaunted their disregard for the constitution.  

Under Obama, the FBI became his personal bodyguards, secret police, and "fixers."  They covered up the administration's transgressions, and framed Obama's political opponents.  They even tried to frame the incoming President Elect with a known fraudulent document.  Up until now, we've been lead to believe that the FBI was acting on their own, the White House was unaware of their actions.  We now know that to be yet another lie, to hide the extent of Obama's fraud on the American people.

I know there are bigger fish to fry today, with Corona Virus and the Shutdown Economy, and Trump refusing to wear a N95 mask.  So the media will focus on those important things, and allow the undermining of our constitution to slip the back pages.  Where's the outrage?  Where're the calls for justice?  In fact, I find the lack of outrage as outrageous, but far less surprising.  The media has been hiding the transgressions of liberals, and fabricating transgressions to pin on conservatives for decades now.  The media's complicity in the corruption of our federal government is nothing short of sinister.  They are attempting to create an elitist, upper class of citizen based on political affiliation and marketability.

But I have high hopes.  I believe in this great experiment.  I believe that someday justice will be served, and our great country will be stronger for it.

Most of us "freethinkers" already recognized the facade the Noble Statesman Obama conjured, and recognized the slick orator as a fraud, a scoundrel, and a carpetbagger.  And now finally the media is starting to slowly acknowledge the hypocrisy of his administration.  They will, of course continue to hide their own culpability...  But only if we let them.

What will be the undoing of Obummer's legacy?  Where the Fast and Furious and Benghazi fiascoes failed, what the obvious lies about Trump and Russia were unable to expose, General Micheal Flynn will succeed.  Ironic beyond belief; the man Obama tried to destroy for having the gall to question his actions, will be the man that undoes his unblemished legacy.

Here's a great article that exposes the rampant hypocrisy and blatant lies of the Obama administration, and their coordinated attack on Flynn:
16  Bitcoin / Electrum / [GUIDE] How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum [Guide] on: April 15, 2020, 02:47:17 AM
Table of Contents
Getting Started
Instructions for Windows
Instructions for Mac
Instructions for Shell Terminal

Electrum is one of, if not the most popular lightweight bitcoin clients around.  The software is incredibly useful, and includes several options and tools that allow ultimate control of your bitcoin.  Electrum can be used to access any type of bitcoin wallet, including legacy, p2sh, or bech32.  Existing wallets can be imported into Electrum by using a private key, an extended private key, or a Bip39 seed phrase.  It can create new wallets of any type as well, including multi-signature wallets.  Electrum can be used to access the popular brands of hardware wallets, too.  It's also handy for creating watch-only versions of your cold or hardware wallets.  On top of all that, It's open source, which allows anyone to audit the software, removing the need to solely trust the developers.

The unfortunate thing about open source software; it can easily be copied by nefarious individuals, and made to look like the real thing.  Electrum's popularity and widespread use make it a prime target for these hackers and scammers.  So how does one ensure that he has downloaded the official, authentic version, and not a malicious fake?  First and foremost, make sure you download it only from the official Electrum website, but don't stop there.  The only way you can be certain you have downloaded an official release to check if the file was digitally signed by the developer.  Here's how to do that:

Electrum website:
Electrum Git:
Electrum Documentation:
The GnuPG Project:

ThomasV's PGP fingerprint: 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

Redundant links to ThomasV's public key:

Third-party binary installations that include GnuPG:

Getting Started With GPG
First you'll need to download and install Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG,) the successive implementation of the OpenPGP standard.  The link in the resources section above provides download links for the tar ball, and links to third-party binary releases.  If you download the tar ball, you'll have to compile binaries for your operating system.  If you aren't comfortable doing that, I recommend the third-party binary downloads.  GPG4Win provides the option to install Kleopatra, a GUI application which is very user friendly.  Mac GPG is also a user friendly application with a GUI Frontend.  I won't go into too much detail on installing GnuPG on your system, there are plenty of resources on the internet that can guide you through that, but the following paragraphs will help you get started.

Navigate to The GnuPG Project's download page, chose the appropriate third-party binary for your operating system, and install GnuPG according to instructions provided with the distribution.  

Note that Debian Linux distributions include GPG preinstalled, however they may not have a GUI Frontend.  A Debian distribution running on Windows Subsystem for Linux will also have GPG preinstalled.

Once you've installed GPG you may be prompted to create or import a key pair.  If you already have a private key you can import it.  If you do not have a private key, I recommend that you create a new key pair.  Again, there are plenty of instructional sites on the internet that you can reference to guide you through creating your own key pair.  You do not need your own private key to verify a signature, but you will need one to certify the public keys of others.

Once you've created or imported your own private key you can now import ThomasV's public key.  On the download's page of the official Electrum website, you'll find a link to ThomasV's public PGP key.  For redundancy I've posted that link in the references section above.  Clicking on the link will take you to a page that displays the public key.

Windows users take note; When downloading signatures and keys Windows likes to save .asc files with the .txt file extension.  To avoid this pitfall open an explorer window, click on the View tab, Folder Options, and under the view menu disable hidden extensions of known file types.

Windows Instructions

Install on Windows
For Windows systems I recommend Gpg4win.  Browse to their downloads page, and install the latest version.  Once the installation directory is chosen, the installer will allow you to choose components:

Kleopatra is the GUI front end that's included with Gpg4win, and I recommend you install it.  If you don't, you'll have to use command prompts to manage the GnuPG app.  Another optional feature is a shell extension which I find handy, and an Outlook extension.  If you use you use outlook the integration is pretty seamless, and actually quite useful.

Once installation is completed, and Kleopatra launches I recommend you create a private key.  If you already have one, you can import it at this time.

Import ThomasV's PGP Key on Windows
Import ThomasV's PGP Key using Kleopatra:
Download ThomasV's PGP Key from a trusted source.  Start Kleopatra, if it's not already running.  Click the Import button, and navigate to the location where "ThomasV.asc" was saved, select the file, and click Open.

Kleopatra will ask you to certify the public key, select Yes.

Chose the email address you want to certify, there's no reason not to select them all.  Click Certify.

Verify Electrum on Windows
Download the Electrum package you prefer, and the associated signature file.  Save both in the same directory.  In Kleaopatra, click on the "Decrypt/Verify" button, and browse to the location of the .exe and .asc files you saved.  Select the .asc file, and click "Open."

The software will check the integrity of the .exe file and compare it to the signature file.  If the signature matches the .exe file you'll see a window like this pop up with green text:

If the signature does not match the window will have a red tint and the text will also be red:

Mac Instructions

Install on Mac
For Mac users I recommend using the Mac GPG suite from  It includes a GPG Keychain app that's very user friendly, and walks you through creating a private key pair.
Browse to site, and download the .dmg file, and unpack it to start installation.
Once installation has reached the "Installation Type" page, click "Customize."

Mac GPG is free to use, except for the mail clients.  They come with a 30-day free trial if you care to try them, or you may choose to deselect them.

Once installation is complete, the system will launch the GPG Keychain app, and prompt you to create a key pair.  You'll need a secret key to certify other peoples' keys, if you should choose (highly recommended.)

Import ThomasV's PGP Key on Mac OS
Download ThomasV's PGP Key from a trusted source.  If it's not already running, launch the GPG Keychain app, and click the import button.  Browse to the location where you saved the ThomasV.asc file, and select it.

The Keychain should now list ThomasV's public key.

Double click on ThomasV's key and set the trust level to "full."

Verify on Mac OS
Download the Electrum image file and the associated signature file.  Open a Finder window, navigate to the location where you saved the Electrum .dmg file and the .asc signature file, and double click the signature file.

Mac GPG will launch the verification tool, and compare the .dmg file to the signature file.  Once the verification tool has completed its diagnostic it'll pop up a window like this:

If the signature doesn't match, you'll see a window that looks like this:

Shell Terminal Instructions

Install on Linux
Terminal commands are a more powerful way to interact with GPG.  They can be used on any of the operating systems mentioned in this post.  I will demonstrate using a virtual machine running Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop.  Once installed on your system you can run these same commands in Windows using PowerShell, and in Mac OS using the Terminal app.  If you're running a Linux system, I will assume it's a version with a desktop user interface (otherwise I'd be preaching to the choir.)

As a general precaution you should never copy unknown commands from the internet and paste them into your operating system's shell terminal.  Take the time to research these instructions before following them.  Your safety is why you're here in the first place.  

As far as I know all Debian distributions of Linux include GnuPG by default.  This includes Ubuntu, which I'll be using for my examples.
If for some reason you don't have GnuPG installed on your Linux OS, open a terminal window run the following command:
sudo apt update && sudo apt install gnupg -y

Import ThomasV's PGP Key using terminal commands
Download ThomasV's PGP key from a trusted source.  Save it in a directory to which you can easily navigate in a terminal window.  Open a terminal window and follow the instructions below:

Import ThomasV's public key:
gpg --import /<path>/<to>/<file>/<location>/ThomasV.asc

gpg --import ~/Downloads/ThomasV.asc

Alternatively, you can use GnuPG's built-in function to download ThomasV's PGP key from one of the key servers.  For example, here's a command using's key server:
gpg --keyserver --recv-keys 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

The response should look like this:
gpg: key 2BD5824B7F9470E6: public key "Thomas Voegtlin ( <>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1

Refresh your keyring:
gpg -k

You should now see ThomasV's key in your keyring, the entry should look like this:
pub   rsa4096 2011-06-15 [SC]
uid           [ unknown] Thomas Voegtlin ( <>
uid           [ unknown] ThomasV <>
uid           [ unknown] Thomas Voegtlin <>
sub   rsa4096 2011-06-15 [E]

If you choose to, you can now certify the key.  You must have created or imported a secret key.  If you created one, it will automatically be set as the default and trust level will be set to ultimate.  If you imported an existing secret key, you'll have to set the trust level and defaults manually.  Refer to the GnuPG documentation for instructions.
gpg --sign-key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

Optionally, if you have multiple secret keys, or don't have one set as a default, use this command to certify ThomasV's public key:
gpg -u <yourfingerprint> --sign-key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6

Select y and press enter at the two following prompts.  You'll be prompted for the GPG password that you set when creating your key pair.  ThomasV's key trust level will be set to "full."

Check the trust level of the public key by refreshing the keyring:
gpg -k

The results for ThomasVs key should look like this:
pub   rsa4096 2011-06-15 [SC]
uid           [  full  ] Thomas Voegtlin ( <>
uid           [  full  ] ThomasV <>
uid           [  full  ] Thomas Voegtlin <>
sub   rsa4096 2011-06-15 [E]

Note;  By using the --sign-key command (and you also choose to upload your public key to the OpenPGP server) the trust level settings for other individuals will be shared and included in the Web of Trust.  If you wish to prevent sharing your trust level settings use --lsign-key instead.  This will sign and certify the public keys of other, but locally only.

Verify using Terminal Commands
Download the Electrum app image file and the associated signature file.  To verify the downloaded AppImage, open a terminal and enter the following command:
gpg --verify /<path>/<to>/<file>/<location>/<filename>.AppImage.asc

gpg --verify ~/Downloads/electrum-3.3.8-x86_64.AppImage.asc

If you have certified ThomasV's public key the result should look like this:
gpg: assuming signed data in '/home/<username>/Downloads/electrum-3.3.8-x86_64.AppImage'
gpg: Signature made Thu 11 Jul 2019 07:26:15 AM PDT
gpg:                using RSA key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6
gpg: Good signature from "Thomas Voegtlin ( <>" [full]

A failed signature will appear as follows:
gpg: assuming signed data in '/home/<username>/Downloads/electrum-3.3.8-x86_64.AppImage'
gpg: Signature made Thu 11 Jul 2019 07:26:15 AM PDT
gpg:                using RSA key 6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6
gpg: BAD signature from "Thomas Voegtlin ( <>" [full]

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17  Other / Off-topic / Post your favorite post-apocalyptic movies here on: April 09, 2020, 07:22:54 PM
Recent world events have given me some time to re-watch a few of my favorite movies, and it's cause me to reflect on what makes a move appealing to me.  It's nothing new, of course.  I'm self aware enough to know that my favorite movie genre is post-apocalyptic and it has been for quite some time.  Apparently I'm not the only one who has been inspired to watch post-apocalyptic movies as a result of recent events.  Just look at what's trending on Netflix (other than the tiger king) and you'll see that many are fascinated with this genre these days.  

So, I'm wondering, what are your favorite post-apocalyptic films, movies, and TV shows?

I'll start, in no particular order other than which ones I think of first.

Blade Runner, 1982.  Duh.  Anything based on the writings of Philip K. Dick is worth watching, and this is probably the most iconic.  
Blade Runner 2049, 2019.  Dare I say that this is arguably better than the original?
Book of Eli, 2010.  I can't get enough of this move, among my all time favorites.
12 Monkeys, 1995.  Very fitting for the times, since the plot is about a virus that wiped out most of the human population.
The Postman, 1997.  One of my favorites despite having the most painfully bad actor playing the lead roll.
The Omega Man, 1971.  Another one that's fitting for the time.
I am Legend, 2007.  Sort of a remake of Omega Man, in a way.  The same plot, at least.
Elysium, 2013.  More of a sci-fi action film, but the setting fits the genre.
The Walking Dead, 2010.  The first few seasons anyway.  I haven't watched since they killed off Carl.
Children of Men, 2006.  Not quite post apocalyptic, more like the characters are living through a slow rolling apocalyptic event.  
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Loan Default - theyoungmillionaire u=1180530 on: March 18, 2020, 06:23:02 PM
What happened::
theyoungmillionaire (u=1180530) has borrowed bitcoin from me, and agreed to adhere to a payment plan that consisted of 6 partial payments.  The whole of the loan plus interest was due to be completely payed off by June 4th, 2020.  In early January theyoungmillionaire contacted me via PM and informed me that he would be unable to make the payment due that month, but would instead make arrangements to pay off the whole loan by the end of the month of January.  As of this point in time I have not received any payments toward his loan.  theyoungmillionaire has not logged into the forum since January 6, and has not responded to any PMs (3) that I have sent since that date.

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link:
Loan Request 1 [Archive],
Loan Request 2 [Archive].

Amount Scammed:
Loan: 0.311825 BTC
Interest: 0.076399 BTC
Total: 0.388224 BTC

Payment Method:

Proof of Payment:

PM/Chat Logs:
Hi, DireWolfM14,

As discussed via PM.
Username: theyoungmillionaire
Loan Amount: 0.311825
Purpose: Trading
Collateral: None
Repayment date: 6 months
Repayment Amount: 0.388224 BTC
Funding Address: 35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz

Howdy TYM,
Per our discussion via PM, I've refinanced your loan, with an additional 0.08 btc sent today.

To summarize:

On September 19th I sent you a loan for 0.3 btc.
Tx: 7f302a56a10fc57ce1bb15bcecb9aeaa868d5ba25eda6884191df10b36c7a796

On October 19th you sent a partial payment of 0.096 btc (0.075 principal, 0.021 btc interest.)
Tx: 60d44b771d5bfd62e37b6298c9f0e0c3de5288fa16c02cb6a65fb3becf04ebe8

Today, November 4th I sent an additional 0.08 btc.
Tx: bff0e1afd24cdbb2b627edd40feae6d63f3f7e880fc706efff5de29e55b3f1cd

As of today, you still had 0.225 btc of principal outstanding.  With interest calculated up to today your obligation was 0.231825 btc.  With the additional 0.08 btc sent today, your total loan is now 0.311825, and per our agreement payments will be made according to the following plan:

||.Date || Loan || Principal || interest || payment.||
||.4.DEC.2019 || 0.311825 || 0.051971 || 0.021828 || 0.073799.||
||.4.JAN.2020 || 0.259855 || 0.051971 || 0.01819 || 0.070161.||
||.4.FEB.2020 || 0.207884 || 0.051971 || 0.014552 || 0.066523.||
||.4.MAR.2020 || 0.155913 || 0.051971 || 0.010914 || 0.062885.||
||.4.APR.2020 || 0.103942 || 0.051971 || 0.007276 || 0.059247.||
||.4.MAY.2020 || 0.051971 || 0.051971 || 0.003638 || 0.055609.||

Please pay back to this address: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ

And once again, thank you for the opportunity to be your lender.

Today, November 4th I sent an additional 0.08 btc.
Tx: bff0e1afd24cdbb2b627edd40feae6d63f3f7e880fc706efff5de29e55b3f1cd
Confirming receipt.

As of today, you still had 0.225 btc of principal outstanding.  With interest calculated up to today your obligation was 0.231825 btc.  With the additional 0.08 btc sent today, your total loan is now 0.311825, and per our agreement payments will be made according to the following plan:

||.Date || Loan || Principal || interest || payment.||
||.4.DEC.2019 || 0.311825 || 0.051971 || 0.021828 || 0.073799.||
||.4.JAN.2020 || 0.259855 || 0.051971 || 0.01819 || 0.070161.||
||.4.FEB.2020 || 0.207884 || 0.051971 || 0.014552 || 0.066523.||
||.4.MAR.2020 || 0.155913 || 0.051971 || 0.010914 || 0.062885.||
||.4.APR.2020 || 0.103942 || 0.051971 || 0.007276 || 0.059247.||
||.4.MAY.2020 || 0.051971 || 0.051971 || 0.003638 || 0.055609.||

Please pay back to this address: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ

And once again, thank you for the opportunity to be your lender.

Thank you, DireWolfM14.

Additional Notes:
Type 3 flag created:;flag=1470
19  Economy / Reputation / Devawnm367 account may have been compromised. on: March 06, 2020, 07:51:37 PM
Devawnm367 has responded, his account is fine.  Sorry for the false alarm, locking this thread!

I have strong reason to believe that Devawnm367's account has been compromised.

What happened:
This morning I found a loan request by Devawnm367 in my lending thread.  The unusual thing is he is using an address that he's never used before.  That alone is out of the ordinary.  The only time he's changed addresses on me before he was very careful to explain the reason for the change.  The address used for this request has never been used before and has never been posted on the forum.  Again, completely out of character for Devawnm367.

The request was signed, and the signature is verified.  Once I found the request, and the odd address, I sent Devawnm367 a message using a third party messaging app that we normally use to communicate.  He hasn't responded to my message, yet he sent me a merit for my lending service thread since my message was sent.  WTF, over?  The merit indicates that he's been online, yet has not responded to the IM I sent him.

Devawnm367 is a great guy, he's not a scammer.  I hope this is just a misunderstanding, but I strongly suspect that his password may have been phished, and someone has hijacked his account.  If he contacts you offering a trade be very careful to confirm you are dealing with the real Devawnm367.


Once this issue is resolved, I will remove my negative rating, and lock this topic.
20  Other / Politics & Society / Can the Democratic Party Survive? on: March 04, 2020, 08:42:40 PM
Can the Democratic party survive given it's current trajectory towards socialism and federalist expansion?

I ask this as a disillusioned, former Democrat myself.  I'm wondering about the party's future.  To be honest, I'm not keen on it's survival if it keeps going the way it is.  I would rather see it die a quick and sudden death than see it turn into the "Federalist" party and attempt to consolidate control, or worse, turn into the socialist party that many registered Democrats want it to become.  

Then there's the Trump psychosis; most of the so-called "moderates" have gone completely bonkers over the fact that Trump was elected president.  They can't seem to come to terms with the fact that they lost in 2016.  Wasn't it enough that their party has controlled the Executive branch for the previous eight years?  Sixteen out of the previous 24?  Or, is that part of it, the fact that they had so much control for such a long period that they have gotten used to it?  One can even argue that Democrats didn't give up much control during the Bush years, as he wasn't able to keep a Republican majority in Congress or the Senate for more than a few minutes.

This delusional phenomena (I'll call it Trump derangement syndrome, or TDS for short) is what has me bothered by today's Democrats the most.  The constant delusions over collusion, and quid-pro-quo, and Porn Stars' memoirs, and who knows what's next.  The lies, the deception, and rabid refusal to get over the result of the last election have proven to be nothing but a big waste of time.  The weirdest part about it; they could actually get be getting a lot of stuff done with this president.  He's hardly a true Republican, he's more independent than anything.  He doesn't see issues strictly from a party line.  If Democrats actually cared about solving the problems that affect America they would be working with him, not trying to undermine him.  This behavior causes me to think there's more to it than just hating Trump and his twitter feed.  I makes me believe that there is deep rooted corruption, not only in the Democratic party, but also among the Republican "Never Trumpers."  These people will put in more effort to protect their power positions than they will to serve the American people.  And they themselves are making it clear and obvious who they are.

Some might argue that the Democratic party is being swallowed up from within it's own ranks by so-called "Democratic Socialists," and that the more moderate Democrats are feeling disenfranchised by this trend.  I would argue that's only part of the equation, possibly the smaller part.  There have been socialists within the Democratic party for most of my life, but until recently they were marginalized by the more main-stream Democrats.  I believe that the country is largely tired of TDS, and it's divisiveness.  

I live a very liberal part of the country, and most of my family and friends fall into that category.  Up until a few months ago one couldn't speak of his endorsement of Trump without getting a ration of disdain from those within earshot.  Those who spoke of their disdain for Trump were met with accolades and agreement.  But, within the last couple of months that seems to be changing.  The most vociferous anti-Trumpers are now being largely ignored.  Repeating the Main Stream Media's criticisms of Trump are now being met with arguments and challenges as opposed to accolades and agreement.  Are the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot with their hatred for Trump?  Are people starting to equate it with a hatred for America?

There used be a time when when there were very few differences between Democrats and Republicans, and most of those differences were limited to social liberties.  Both parties were in favor of supporting the middle class, preserving the American ways of life such as freedom and liberty.  Many Democrats of the past were pro second amendment, pro capitalism, in favor of lowering taxes for the poor and middle classes.  Are those Democrats completely gone, are they a thing of the past?  Or, will the Democratic party spit into two factions; the Democrats who hold to the historical doctrine of the party, and the Democratic Socialists who want the party to turn the party to towards socialism and federal control?

Where does it go from here?
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