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1  Economy / Services / twitter followers buying on: March 18, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
buying twitter followers message me
2  Economy / Services / I require a product shipped from america on: March 14, 2017, 11:58:29 AM
Hi i require a product shipped from america to uk.

Anker powerhouse.

They do not post to uk but i'd pay to buy it and shipping costs. i'd pay you just for the hassle.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Pascal Lite Coin + Account trading on: March 08, 2017, 09:53:44 AM
PASCAL LITE (PASL)

COIN + ACCOUNT TRADING

Post your orders in this format

BUY PASL / 50000 / 0.00001 / TOT 0.50BTC
SELL PASL / 50000 / 0.00001 / TOT 0.50BTC

For accounts

BUY PASLA / 5000 / 0.00001 / TOT 0.50BTC
SELL PASLA / 5000 / 0.00001 / TOT 0.50BTC

Always use escrow
 if you want contact me if im online 1% fee. this will be paid directly to PASL dev to help support development

use the thread for trades only little chitter chatter

link to PASL

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1773026.0

Current Market Cap $18,830(2500 satoshi x 620,000 coins)



BUY PASL COIN


BUY PASL / 4000 / 0.000015 / TOT 0.06BTC    Michaelwang33
BUY PASL / 4000 / 0.000025 / TOT  0.1 BTC    Harry.hangjas
BUY PASL / 3000 / 0.00003  / TOT 0.12BTC    Davamah
BUY PASL / 100000 / 0.00003 / TOT 3 BTC Bitcoinwonders010
BUY PASL / 4000 / 0.00003 / TOT 0.12 BTC  Paxxer
BUY PASL/ 7000 / 0.000032 / TOT 0.224 BTC Slavach

SELL PASL COIN

SELL PASL / 5000 / 0.00002 / TOT 0.1 BTC   Bucaniere00
SELL PASL / 3600 / 0.000039 / TOT 0.14 BTC    Highflyerbtc
SELL PASL / 1000 / 0.00004 / TOT 0.04 BTC          salmankan520
SELL PASL / 1200 / 0.00005 / TOT 0.06 BTC          SnowyNNN
SELL PASL / 1200 / 0.00005 / TOT 0.055 BTC         coral212
SELL PASL / 9000 / 0.000075 / TOT 0.675 BTC       Digitalcurrencyinvestors
SELL PASL / 8000 / 0.000075 / TOT 0.5 BTC           organizm

4  Economy / Services / Escrow required for 1.7btc on: February 09, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
reputable escrow required
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / PASCAL ACCOUNT TRADING THREAD on: January 26, 2017, 06:31:30 PM
Post your orders to buy/sell pascal accounts.

it's currently not on a exchange so use escrow.

currently 342,500 accounts

6  Economy / Digital goods / WTB Norton security 360 code on: January 21, 2017, 07:18:57 PM
i am looking for norton security 360 codes that actually work and won't expire after a few months
7  Other / Meta / feature for bitcointalk to avoid scams on: October 22, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
alot of users have been getting scammed by high ranking members due to the hack. passwords are changed and btc is scammed. anyway bitcointalk can place a negative on trust on any user when they change their password for a set period of time like 1 week. this should give enough time for a user to report the account compromised.

thoughts
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / ZCASH Anonymous transactions on: October 17, 2016, 10:10:39 AM
this thread was created so zcash can be discussed here too prior to launch

link to zcash forum

https://forum.z.cash/

more info will be added


moderated thread to delete any unnecessary comments
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / delete on: October 17, 2016, 10:09:43 AM
delete
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / PASCAL COIN + ACCOUNT TRADING THREAD on: October 06, 2016, 11:50:23 PM
PASCAL COIN TRADING THREAD

For full INFO on pascal coin visit the ANN Thread

you can advertise two types of trades

1. Pascal coins
2. Pascal account


Format to advertise Coin is                                                                                           Format to advertise Accounts

WTBC  /  10000  /  0.00002     BTC  /  TOT 0.20 BTC                                                          WTBA  /  1000 / 0.0001  BTC  /    TOT 0.10 BTC
WTSC  / 12500  /  0.000021   BTC  /   TOT 0.2625 BTC                                                       WTSA  /  1000  /  0.0005  BTC  /  TOT 0.50 BTC  



Pascal Coins Market Cap   - 2,025,000  - 0.00003 BTC -  60.75 BTC - $38, 360

Buy orders

WTBC  /  50000  /  0.00002  /  TOT 1 BTC    Kahir
WTBC / 30000 / 0.000022 / TOT 0.66 BTC    Bitcoinwonders010
WTBC / 10000 / 0.00023 / TOT 0.23 BTC       Penetrator10
WTBC / 25000 / 0.000025 / TOT 0.50 BTC      Mxhwr
WTBC  /  50000  /  0.00003  /  TOT 1.5 BTC Dadon



Sell Orders
WTSC  /  2000  /  0.000025  /  TOT 0.05 BTC      Adaseb
WTSC  /  6000  /  0.00003  /  TOT 0.18 BTC         Lockepi
WTSC  /  1500  /  0.00003  /  TOT 0.045             dormammu
WTSC  /  20000  /  0.00003  /  TOT 0.6 BTC       Arska
WTSC  /  30000  /  0.000035  /  1.05 BTC       Opentalklab
WTSC  /  5000  /  0.00004  /  TOT 0.20BTC       Mirny
WTSC  /  20000  /  0.00005  /  TOT 1 BTC         Go6ooo1212
WTSC  /  16000  /  0.0001  /  TOT 1.6 BTC    Kahir
WTSC  /  20000  /  0.0002  /  TOT 0.6 BTC         Go6ooo1212
WTSC  /  7000  /  0.0003  /  TOT 2.1 BTC       anorganix
WTSC  /  1000  /  0.0005  /  TOT 0.5 BTC      Cptfisher
WTSC  /  2200  /  0.0005 /  TOT 1.1 BTC       Stumpsty
WTSC  /  10000  /  0.00055  /  TOT 5.5 BTC   Hankrules
WTSC  /  2000  /   0.001  /  TOT 2 BTC           Go6ooo1212
WTSC  /  40000  /  0.001  /  TOT 40 BTC        Thedreamer
WTSC  /  3500  /  0.002  /  TOT 7 BTC            cptfisher



Pascal Accounts Market Cap  -  92555  -  0.00001BTC  -  0.9255 BTC  -  $565

Buy Orders
WTBA  /  1000  /  0.00001 BTC  / 0.01 BTC

WTBA / 10000 /   0.00001        / TOT 0.10 BTC  Bitcoinwonders010
WTBA / 5000 / 0.000011/ TOT 0.055BTC            Penetrator10
WTBA / 10000  / 0.000015BTC / TOT 0.20 BTC     Mxhwr

Sell Orders
WTSA  /  50  /  0.00005  /  TOT  0.0025 BTC         dormammu
WTSA  /  2000  /  0.0005  /  TOT  1 BTC             Thedreamer
WTSA  /  1500  /  0.0001  /  TOT 0.15 BTC              Go6ooo1212
WTSA  /  350  /  0.0001  /  TOT 0.03 BTC              anorganix
WTSA  /  50  /  0.0005  /  TOT 0.025 BTC              
WTSA  /  100  /  0.0005  /  TOT 0.005                  Anorganix
WTSA  /  100  /  0.0005  / TOT 0.05 BTC             Cptfisher
WTSA  /  2000  /  0.0005  /  TOT  1 BTC             Thedreamer
WTSA  /  1000  /  0.001  /  TOT 0.1 BTC                 Mxhwr


This is a advertisement thread, trade with other users at your own risk.
USE ESCROW IF UNSURE

if your looking for a escrow you can select one from this list

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0


Tips on not to get scammed

if you feel the user can be trusted and you want to send first i would advise

first check his trust, it should tell you if the password has been reset recently, if so stay away and do not trade without escro
no matter how good the account is if you still want to trade without escrow trade in smaller amounts to minimize risk
11  Economy / Services / Escrow required on: October 06, 2016, 06:51:46 AM
looking for good escrow
12  Economy / Computer hardware / windows CPU Miner needed for hire, can pay in advance if trusted on: September 29, 2016, 07:20:49 AM
I was looking for a windows CPU miner available for hire to mine a CPU coin



PM me for more details
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / cpu mining on VPS on: September 24, 2016, 12:12:57 PM
am i able to mine a cpu minable coin on a VPS
14  Economy / Services / looking for solo cpu miners, PAYING DAILY on: September 23, 2016, 11:58:55 PM
looking for people to mine a coin and will pay x amount per coin you can receive payment as soon you find a block or every 24 hours

cpu coin be great  if you have more than 6 cores
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / looking for solo cpu miners, PAYING DAILY on: September 23, 2016, 11:33:15 PM
i am looking for anyone who can solo mine a cpu altcoin. preferable if you have a powerful cpu giving better chance of mining the coin.

will pay per coin whenever you have some or every 24 hours
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / how does lisk differ from ethereum on: April 18, 2016, 11:45:26 PM
came across this link its worth a read. i think it will really shows the winner hands down


http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum

 

1. Programming Languages
Lisk

One of the things that Lisk heavily promoted prior to their presale was the fact that their Dapp are in Javascript, "the most popular language in the world." In fact, they marketed (via reddit advertisement)[1] themselves as "The Ethereum Alternative for Javascript developers".

Ethereum


Smart Contracts for Ethereum are in Solidity or Serpent. Solidity is very similar to Javascript, but is custom made for smart contracts. It is extremely easy to read these contracts and understand what they are doing. There are also some big reasons to use a custom language over Javascript (discussed below) when it comes to contracts that move currency, store value, and need to reach consensus. This page, while no longer being maintained, has some excellent points about what Solidity is:

Solidity is perhaps the first example of a contract-oriented programming language; a slight tweak on the notion of object-orientation. While closely related to object-oriented languages, this is a language designed specifically to help express agreements that must encode ideas and relationships relevant to Real Life, or some formal model thereof. As such we see notions such as ownership, identity, protections and restrictions forming a core part of the vocabulary and idiomatic grammar.
I don't know as much about Serpent, but it appears to have the same goals and purpose as Solidity, but is meant to be similar to Python (and therefore be great for Python devs.) This, along with the range of clients, also showcases the dedication that Ethereum has to being appealing to a wide range of developers, not just Javascript developers.

Above only covers Smart Contracts for Etheruem; what about the more fully-encompassing "Dapp"? Well, it's pretty much Javascript for the UI of Ethereum Dapp. I recommend you read ConsenSys's writeup here, specifically Part II. Basically, you have:

Truffle (JS, Sass, ES6, JSX are built-in)

Embark (which is JS)

Meteor (web3.js + meteor (which is also JS))

and more are coming.

Conclusion

So, for Lisk to be implying that Javascript developers cannot create Dapp for Ethereum is a bit misleading. They can absolutely use primarily Javascript for the Dapp and then Solidity (which is so close to Javascript) for smart contracts.

The difference is that Lisk is entirely Javascript (and node.js) through and through, Ethereum has a large number clients in different languages[2], has two custom-written languages for smart contracts, and still allows for Javascript where you need it most (the UI).

2. Disadvantages of Javascript
What some people don't realize is that Javascript, while being extremely popular, does not automatically make it the best solution. As I said above, the difference between Ethereum and Lisk here is that Lisk is 100% Javascript while Ethereum has a ton of languages & lets Dapp developers use Javascript for the UI and Solidity for smart contracts on the blockchain. With that, here are some potential flaws with Javascript on the blockchain:

Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems.)

Lisk has "rules" that they ask contract developers have to follow to avoid breaking consensus. This includes things like "don't use Math.random()". With Ethereum, you don't have to have rules. The code will not compile if you try to do something wrong. (FYI, you don't compile Javascript.)

Javascript uses weak dynamic typing. If you are not careful, you can pass strings instead of numbers. One of the major differences between Solidity and Serpent and Javascript is that Solidity and Serpent are both strongly typed. Wikipedia on strong vs weak explains it thusly:

A strongly typed language is more likely to generate an error or refuse to compile if the argument passed to a function does not closely match the expected type. On the other hand, a very weakly typed language may produce unpredictable results or may perform implicit type conversion.
Since Ethereum is running contracts on the blockchain and Lisk is sort of running Dapp on the blockchain (sidechain?), you could see why having a weakly typed language could result in problems, specifically regarding consensus. It is much better to know the problem before it turns into an immutable thing on the chain, rather than discover all funds are trapped, or you fork the blockchain the first time someone tries to interact with it.

2b. Disadvantages of Solidity
As user Jehan pointed out, Solidity isn't perfect either.

There's little support for serialization and deserialization of any kind

It has an extremely anemic stdlib

There is no way to pass an array of strings into a contract.

3. On the blockchain
In Lisk, the Dapps actually are not stored on the blockchain, like the smart contract bytecode is in Ethereum. Instead, you have external links to these Dapp. They like to compare their Dapp to the traditional "App Store" model (think Apple). Which, while appealing to some users, is less appealing when you realize they are literally using HTTP: links to .zip files.

With Ethereum, you have the code stored on the blockchain which means they can be audited and the code cannot be changed. It's kind of the entire purpose of having decentralized applications (IMO).

Lisk prefers to use a looser definition of "decentralized", meaning literally not stored in a central place, while Ethereum developers and users prefer to have decentralized mean something that cannot be corrupted, can be audited, cannot be changed, can reach consensus etc. [3]

4. Who is / was Lisk
One of the most common arguments by Ethereum lovers against Lisk is that Lisk (1) doesn't have a team of developers behind it and (2) originated as a failed alt-coin, Crypti that was abandoned by the devs (3) those devs that abandoned Crypti are the Lisk devs so (4) is this just a rebrand?

I don't know much about Crypti, but they did have a presale and they did get a decent amount of money (at least $200k USD) but I can't find the exact figures because everything has been wiped. Nothing came of Crypti. Literally. So...that's scary. The lack of transparency, also scary.

So I guess the main difference I want to point out between Ethereum and Lisk here is that Lisk is two guys who rebranded a previous coin that had a presale and delivered nothing while Ethereum has Vitalik Buterin, a large team of well-known, community-engaged, crazy talented developers, and a large community of developers creating Dapp and third-party wallets and hardware wallets and all sorts of amazing stuff. I mean, look at Augur, Slock.it, and ConsenSys alone. It's crazy!

Another key difference is Ethereum has the Ethereum Foundation, a non-profit Swiss organization and Lisk has....an unknown foundation / company associated with it.

One final note: Lisk really likes to claim they have partnerships with big names. First it was ShapeShift. Now it is Microsoft. They loooove to use that partnership word. In reality, they were just using the Shifty button, not really a partnership, and ShapeShift wasn't too pleased with it:

ShapeShift is not hosting or managing the sale of Lisk (contrary to what has been reported). Lisk is using the ShapeShift API to receive deposits with different coins, but that is the extent of ShapeShift's involvement.
Ethereum on the other hand doesn't promote "partnerships" or try to attach their name to others in order to gain reputation. They've tried to distance themselves from Bitcoin and being seen as a "currency" in general, even before the turmoil with Bitcoin came to a head. Instead, in the case of R3, they used Ethereum and Ethereum was like "yay!" but not "omg we're best buddies."

To be continued....maybe.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / how does lisk differ from ethereum on: April 18, 2016, 11:34:24 PM
came across this link its worth a read. i think it will really shows the winner hands down


http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum

 

1. Programming Languages
Lisk

One of the things that Lisk heavily promoted prior to their presale was the fact that their Dapp are in Javascript, "the most popular language in the world." In fact, they marketed (via reddit advertisement)[1] themselves as "The Ethereum Alternative for Javascript developers".

Ethereum


Smart Contracts for Ethereum are in Solidity or Serpent. Solidity is very similar to Javascript, but is custom made for smart contracts. It is extremely easy to read these contracts and understand what they are doing. There are also some big reasons to use a custom language over Javascript (discussed below) when it comes to contracts that move currency, store value, and need to reach consensus. This page, while no longer being maintained, has some excellent points about what Solidity is:

Solidity is perhaps the first example of a contract-oriented programming language; a slight tweak on the notion of object-orientation. While closely related to object-oriented languages, this is a language designed specifically to help express agreements that must encode ideas and relationships relevant to Real Life, or some formal model thereof. As such we see notions such as ownership, identity, protections and restrictions forming a core part of the vocabulary and idiomatic grammar.
I don't know as much about Serpent, but it appears to have the same goals and purpose as Solidity, but is meant to be similar to Python (and therefore be great for Python devs.) This, along with the range of clients, also showcases the dedication that Ethereum has to being appealing to a wide range of developers, not just Javascript developers.

Above only covers Smart Contracts for Etheruem; what about the more fully-encompassing "Dapp"? Well, it's pretty much Javascript for the UI of Ethereum Dapp. I recommend you read ConsenSys's writeup here, specifically Part II. Basically, you have:

Truffle (JS, Sass, ES6, JSX are built-in)

Embark (which is JS)

Meteor (web3.js + meteor (which is also JS))

and more are coming.

Conclusion

So, for Lisk to be implying that Javascript developers cannot create Dapp for Ethereum is a bit misleading. They can absolutely use primarily Javascript for the Dapp and then Solidity (which is so close to Javascript) for smart contracts.

The difference is that Lisk is entirely Javascript (and node.js) through and through, Ethereum has a large number clients in different languages[2], has two custom-written languages for smart contracts, and still allows for Javascript where you need it most (the UI).

2. Disadvantages of Javascript
What some people don't realize is that Javascript, while being extremely popular, does not automatically make it the best solution. As I said above, the difference between Ethereum and Lisk here is that Lisk is 100% Javascript while Ethereum has a ton of languages & lets Dapp developers use Javascript for the UI and Solidity for smart contracts on the blockchain. With that, here are some potential flaws with Javascript on the blockchain:

Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems.)

Lisk has "rules" that they ask contract developers have to follow to avoid breaking consensus. This includes things like "don't use Math.random()". With Ethereum, you don't have to have rules. The code will not compile if you try to do something wrong. (FYI, you don't compile Javascript.)

Javascript uses weak dynamic typing. If you are not careful, you can pass strings instead of numbers. One of the major differences between Solidity and Serpent and Javascript is that Solidity and Serpent are both strongly typed. Wikipedia on strong vs weak explains it thusly:

A strongly typed language is more likely to generate an error or refuse to compile if the argument passed to a function does not closely match the expected type. On the other hand, a very weakly typed language may produce unpredictable results or may perform implicit type conversion.
Since Ethereum is running contracts on the blockchain and Lisk is sort of running Dapp on the blockchain (sidechain?), you could see why having a weakly typed language could result in problems, specifically regarding consensus. It is much better to know the problem before it turns into an immutable thing on the chain, rather than discover all funds are trapped, or you fork the blockchain the first time someone tries to interact with it.

2b. Disadvantages of Solidity
As user Jehan pointed out, Solidity isn't perfect either.

There's little support for serialization and deserialization of any kind

It has an extremely anemic stdlib

There is no way to pass an array of strings into a contract.

3. On the blockchain
In Lisk, the Dapps actually are not stored on the blockchain, like the smart contract bytecode is in Ethereum. Instead, you have external links to these Dapp. They like to compare their Dapp to the traditional "App Store" model (think Apple). Which, while appealing to some users, is less appealing when you realize they are literally using HTTP: links to .zip files.

With Ethereum, you have the code stored on the blockchain which means they can be audited and the code cannot be changed. It's kind of the entire purpose of having decentralized applications (IMO).

Lisk prefers to use a looser definition of "decentralized", meaning literally not stored in a central place, while Ethereum developers and users prefer to have decentralized mean something that cannot be corrupted, can be audited, cannot be changed, can reach consensus etc. [3]

4. Who is / was Lisk
One of the most common arguments by Ethereum lovers against Lisk is that Lisk (1) doesn't have a team of developers behind it and (2) originated as a failed alt-coin, Crypti that was abandoned by the devs (3) those devs that abandoned Crypti are the Lisk devs so (4) is this just a rebrand?

I don't know much about Crypti, but they did have a presale and they did get a decent amount of money (at least $200k USD) but I can't find the exact figures because everything has been wiped. Nothing came of Crypti. Literally. So...that's scary. The lack of transparency, also scary.

So I guess the main difference I want to point out between Ethereum and Lisk here is that Lisk is two guys who rebranded a previous coin that had a presale and delivered nothing while Ethereum has Vitalik Buterin, a large team of well-known, community-engaged, crazy talented developers, and a large community of developers creating Dapp and third-party wallets and hardware wallets and all sorts of amazing stuff. I mean, look at Augur, Slock.it, and ConsenSys alone. It's crazy!

Another key difference is Ethereum has the Ethereum Foundation, a non-profit Swiss organization and Lisk has....an unknown foundation / company associated with it.

One final note: Lisk really likes to claim they have partnerships with big names. First it was ShapeShift. Now it is Microsoft. They loooove to use that partnership word. In reality, they were just using the Shifty button, not really a partnership, and ShapeShift wasn't too pleased with it:

ShapeShift is not hosting or managing the sale of Lisk (contrary to what has been reported). Lisk is using the ShapeShift API to receive deposits with different coins, but that is the extent of ShapeShift's involvement.
Ethereum on the other hand doesn't promote "partnerships" or try to attach their name to others in order to gain reputation. They've tried to distance themselves from Bitcoin and being seen as a "currency" in general, even before the turmoil with Bitcoin came to a head. Instead, in the case of R3, they used Ethereum and Ethereum was like "yay!" but not "omg we're best buddies."

To be continued....maybe.
18  Economy / Services / closing price and last price calculator on: October 26, 2015, 01:46:52 PM
does anyone know how to calculate the last price and current price percentage change in the 24h period. does anyone know te formula

thanks
19  Economy / Services / cryptonote gui wallet on: June 10, 2015, 11:48:46 PM
need someone to create a gui wallet for cryptonote coins

should show

private key, anonimity level scale, mining and other things

pm or post on thread with quote
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / PHP API DATA on: February 26, 2015, 01:50:21 AM
can anyone teach how to add api data to site using PHP to wordpress site
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