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I asked for a withdrawal 4 days ago. (1 BTC) ( Earlier I rejected all the bullshit bonus.) I posted about it 3 times in betcoin.tm topic. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg13371342#msg13371342 ) Yesterday betcoin.tm claimed in there topic that there was no pending withdrawal in their queue. I checked my account and saw that my withdrawal was cancelled, so i tried to make another one, but the system did not work, when i clicked on the withdrawal button nothing happened. I posted this new issue in betcoin.tm topic that the withdrawals did not work. (no answer) Some hour later i checked my account again and my balance was cleared to 0. (from 2.88 BTC) I posted this 3.rd issue in their topic. (no answer) Later i contacted them via live chat but the agent could not say anything, just forwarding my issue. ( nothing happened) Today i contacted them via online form. (no answer) I suggest you not to play at betcoin.tm. They are from Greece. They use the same odds provider as bet8.gr . Cleared account balance:  Bet list:  Transaction history: (Earlier i cound not find it, and asked 3 times in betcoin.tm topic where the transaction list is, but i got no answer)  This is not the first time i say not to play at a bookmaker. bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0 They of course disappeared some months later as i predicted. Betvip also disappeared ,also predicted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11627924#msg11627924My next prediction is that betcoin.tm will be the next. I saw a lot of post that their withdrawals went through . But all those withdrawals are in the joke category: 0.0X or 0.1X BTC i will attach the live chat conversation too. Edit: they confiscated all my winnings and deposit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1309070.msg13400263#msg13400263 i will share all my 11 bets here, so you can decide ... |
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Do not deposit to betvip I think betvip is insolvent , your deposits never will be credited to you account and your withdrawals never will be processed i am not a noob, as you can see in my history, bitcoinlivebets was the first bitcoin book that steal 30 BTC from me with a fake bet, they of course disappeared some months later as i predicted On their deposit page : "Please send a confirmation email to support@betvip.com with your transaction details as we are experiencing temporary deposit delays and we will instantly credit your account. " read the story from the bottom , they did not reply to my last 2 emails, in which i gave them the correct btc amount and asked them to send back my deposit , that was 4 and 6 hours ago Hi, Send back ASAP my 1st deposit 1 BTC to this address : XXX that is still not credited to my account but more than 1-3 hours left (which is only a database set value, that should take only 1-5 minutes) if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent have a nide day all necesserley info see below XYZ -------- Továbbított üzenet -------- Tárgy: Re: deposit Dátum: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:43:46 +0100 Címzett: support@betvip.comOf course you can check it by yourself Hash XXX 1 BTC https://blockchain.info/tx/XXXi hope there is not exists other question that you can delay my deposit more time 2015.02.28. 14:34 keltezéssel, support@betvip.com írta: > Please could you confirm your deposit amount as previously requested? > > Kind regards, > Robert > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: deposit > Date: Sat, February 28, 2015 2:56 pm > To: support@betvip.com> > You cant find the user by its deposit address ? > > my registered email: XXX , but i dont want to share my name with you > > i can help you with this sql snippet , i hope you find it useful > > select account from database where depositaddress = XXX > > > > > > 2015.02.28. 13:30 keltezéssel, support@betvip.com írta: >> Dear Sir, >> >> Apologies for this but we cant track which account is your so we can credit you. Please could you confirm the email address that you registered with as well as your deposit amount. >> >> Kind regards, >> Robert >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: deposit >> From: >> Date: Sat, February 28, 2015 2:06 pm >> To: support@betVIP.com>> >> Hi, >> >> deposit address: XXXX >> >> >> Hash >> YYYY >> >> >> how long will it take to fix this deposit issue ? this is my 1st deposit and it is very strange issue , or you want to only know your customers name (from the email sender) ? >> >> Since when customers have to send email to get their deposits ? >> >> if you do not credit my account within 10 minutes from this email, i think i have to write about this issue into bitcointalkorg forum >> >> >> XYZ >> >> |
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Which wallet should I use ?
I want to send bitcoins form my .net (c#) app in a very simple mode, like
Authenticate ....
Wallet.Send(bitcoinaddress, nanocoins);
(in this wallet i will keep only some BTC)
I know that for example greenaddress, bitgo has API, but there is no .net wrapper for them
and I dont want to download the whole blockchain (BitcoinSharp)
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I am thinking to make a site where you can download a database (sql, xml, etc.) with all of the odds from a specified sportsbookmaker , refreshed every 5 minutes (all btc sport bookmakers and any non btc, all sports , but not livebet odds) for exmaple :  also downloadable database for nameID, sporttype,markettype, subtype (for example: subtype 1500 = tennis game handicap, subtype 1600 = tennis under over ) you can use these databases for whatever you want , ( or later if you want to get only the result of a specified stored procedure that i run on the database) is there any demand for such a site? |
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- the person has no any trading experience (and never learned trading)
- the person can write any application using exchanges API (.Net, C#)
- the person does not want to use any other (not open source) trading application
Where can find the person good trading source about btc trading?
first (and perhaps only) thought to implement :
if the last price is XX then put a buy order at XX-20$ and a sell order at XX+20$ (refresh it every 10sec) it there is flash crash (like last time to $275 and back to $310) or a flash jump (to make profit)
others? so simple methods?
or arbitraging ?
i saw arbitrage opportunity yesterday , for example okcoin was about $7 higher than bitstamp ,
so if i sell at okcoin and buy (back) at bitstamp at the same time and wait until the the price equals then buy btc at okcoin and sell BTC on bitstamp (at about same price, same amout ) and if Okcoin is again at about $7 higher than bitstamp repeat the previous method
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If OTC market following exchange price and if i want to buy as many coins i can at the lowest price
1, I buy on OTC market (5000-50000 BTC) (at fixed current exchange price +- 1-3 %)
2, i sell on exchanges ( first 3 by volume) ----> pushing the price down (5-15%)
3, go back to 1st step
Is that possible? The volume is so low on exchanges that i can imageine this
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the story :
1, I copied/moved my datadir to another drive (it was too big, it worked) (all files, wallet.dat too) (8.5 beta 32 bit)
it is possible that the qt client was running when the wallet.dat was copied, perhaps this was the problem, but i think it is normal thought if a program is in idle state (no action on my wallet) then i can copy it (the files, wallet.dat) another place without the assumption it will be corrupted
(i do not know weather the client (after restarted with datadir parameters) used the copied wallet.dat or the original appdata/roaming/bitcoin version, probably the original one)
2, later the same day, I installed new version 9.2.1 (64 bit), it created a new folder in program files (64 bit) so the 8.5 version was still available on my computer
(before the installion i closed the qt client)
3, the installer asked the datadir, i tried to give them my moved datadir
4, tried to run the new client but got always "wallet.dat corrupt salvage failed"
5 uninstall 9.2 , reinstall 8.5 , copied back the wallet.dat to original place appdata/roaming/bitcoin , but got the same error
i can only recover my wallet with pywallet.py --dump
it took me 2 hours to find and use this method, while i was near in heart attack , reading/browsing forums, reading that sometimes none of the recovery methods works
i think there will be more stories like this one, but with loss , i thinks this behavior from a bitcoin wallet client is not acceptable (file corrupting while copying)
(i know that there is an option in menu "backup wallet" but when you copy all files (in an idle application) you do not thing on that the files could be corrupted )
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As i promised, i will share arbs between bitcoinlivebets and other sites The real reason, why i decided to withdraw all my money (because bitcoinlivebets is an arbheaven) Try to imagine with such arbs/middles/odds how long bitcoinlivebets has enough btc to pay out its user here are my two topic : bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0 (bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC ) It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong. (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC, while they max limit is only 3 BTC, after they realized that i made a lot of arbs/middles/profit with their site) http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/432649/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsxhere are some arbs/middles at the moment while i am writing this post HC means Handicap , UO means Under/Over sport: basketball, 17.65% ,bookie1: unibet,team1: Maccabi Haifa, odds1: 4.10, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Unics Kazan, odds2: 1.65, market: Match : HC 5 0 | sport: basketball, 9.50% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Maccabi Haifa, odds1: 2.09, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Unics Kazan, odds2: 2.30, market: HC : 65 | sport: basketball, 8.67% ,bookie1: sbobet,team1: Maccabi Haifa BC, odds1: 2.06, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Unics Kazan, odds2: 2.30, market: HC 70:65 0 | sport: basketball, 12.57% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Nizhny Novgorod, odds1: 2.40, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: Albacomp Szekesfehervar, odds2: 2.12, market: HC : 155 | sport: basketball, 11.77% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Nizhny Novgorod, odds1: 2.55, bookie2: 12bet, team2: Alba Fehervar, odds2: 1.99, market: HC : 165 | sport: basketball, 10.27% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Nizhny Novgorod, odds1: 2.40, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: Albacomp Szekesfehervar, odds2: 2.04, market: HC 155:160 0 | sport: basketball, 8.95% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Besiktas, odds1: 2.07, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Spartak Saint Petersburg, odds2: 2.30, market: UO 1460:1475 0 | sport: basketball, 6.45% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Virtus Roma, odds1: 1.65, bookie2: unibet, team2: Gravelines-Dunkerque, odds2: 3.00, market: HC 5:0 0 | sport: basketball, 4.03% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Virtus Roma, odds1: 1.94, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: BCM Gravelines, odds2: 2.25, market: UO : 1495 | sport: basketball, 7.22% ,bookie1: betfair fixed,team1: Olimpija Ljubljana, odds1: 3.25, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Cimberio Varese, odds2: 1.60, market: UO 1575:1595 0 | sport: basketball, 5.58% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Union Olimpija, odds1: 2.03, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Cimberio Varese, odds2: 2.20, market: UO 1470:1475 0 | sport: basketball, 4.65% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: TED Ankara Koleji, odds1: 1.80, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Khimik Yuzhny, odds2: 2.50, market: HC : 45 | sport: basketball, 4.35% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: TED Ankara Koleji, odds1: 1.88, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Khimik Yuzhny, odds2: 2.35, market: HC 50:55 0 | sport: basketball, 4.05% ,bookie1: betfair fixed,team1: TED Ankara Kolejliler, odds1: 2.30, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Khimik Yuzhny, odds2: 1.90, market: HC : 85 | sport: basketball, 6.12% ,bookie1: anonibet,team1: Stelmet Zielona Gora, odds1: 2.20, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: FC Bayern Munich, odds2: 2.05, market: HC : 5 | sport: basketball, 6.12% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: BK Levice, odds1: 2.35, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: BK AX SPU Nitra, odds2: 1.94, market: HC : 75 | sport: basketball, 5.32% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Lietuvos Rytas, odds1: 1.98, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Panathinaikos, odds2: 2.25, market: UO : 1485 | sport: basketball, 4.68% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: EWE Baskets Oldenburg, odds1: 2.15, bookie2: sbobet, team2: Dinamo Sassari, odds2: 2.04, market: UO : 1635 | sport: basketball, 4.41% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: EWE Baskets Oldenburg, odds1: 2.15, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: Banco Di Sardegna Sassari, odds2: 2.03, market: UO 1635:1645 0 | sport: basketball, 4.63% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Nanterre, odds1: 1.86, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: CSKA Moscow, odds2: 2.40, market: HC : 125 | sport: basketball, 4.06% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Bisons Loimaa, odds1: 1.60, bookie2: betfair, team2: Neptunas Klaipeda, odds2: 3.10, market: HC 35:25 0 | | sport: basketball, 3.51% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Bisons Loimaa, odds1: 2.35, bookie2: anonibet, team2: Neptunas Klaipeda, odds2: 1.85, market: HC : 55 | sport: basketball, 3.51% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Ratiopharm Ulm, odds1: 1.85, bookie2: anonibet, team2: Asvel Lyon Villeurbanne, odds2: 2.35, market: HC : 45 | sport: basketball, 0.98% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Ratiopharm Ulm, odds1: 2.30, bookie2: anonibet, team2: Asvel Lyon Villeurbanne, odds2: 1.80, market: HC : 75 | sport: basketball, 3.43% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Tallinna Kalev, odds1: 1.95, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Korvpalliklubi Parnu, odds2: 2.20, market: UO : 1415 | sport: basketball, 2.44% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Tallinna Kalev, odds1: 1.85, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Korvpalliklubi Parnu, odds2: 2.30, market: UO : 1405 | sport: basketball, 3.28% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Panionios, odds1: 1.91, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: KK Radnicki Kragujevac, odds2: 2.25, market: UO : 1525 | sport: basketball, 3.28% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Cibona, odds1: 1.91, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: Le Mans Sarthe Basket, odds2: 2.25, market: UO : 1485 | sport: basketball, 3.08% ,bookie1: pinnacle sports,team1: Kauhajoen Karhu, odds1: 1.98, bookie2: bitcoinlivebets, team2: KTP Basket Kotka, odds2: 2.15, market: UO : 1645 | sport: basketball, 1.84% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Svendborg Rabbits, odds1: 2.15, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: Team FOG Naestved, odds2: 1.94, market: UO : 1645 | sport: basketball, 1.84% ,bookie1: bitcoinlivebets,team1: Hapoel Jerusalem, odds1: 2.15, bookie2: pinnacle sports, team2: Lukoil Academic, odds2: 1.94, market: UO : 1555 | arbs/middles on 45 matches (957 arbs only basketball)  i never risk , but bitcoinlivebets claimed that i placed a bet on itf tennis quarter final match under/over 29,601 BTC ($3500) (where the winner gets about $200) |
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Here is my email conversation with bitcoincasinopro. Bitcoincasinopro is the organization that did nothing, they only asked me questions, but i never got any answer for my questions. You can check it.  In my 2nd email i shared with bitcoincasinopro why i decided to withdraw all my money form bitcoinlivebets. (”ask them to prove that they have enough BTC to pay out everybody”)  ”we was already aware of that situation hint why we only have them(bitcoinlivebets) rated at a C”  During this period I was called a ”mathematical guru”, however in their last email they started to call me an ”asshole” and ”cancer to the industry” despite i have never been disrespectful to them. I did not invest to bitcoincasinopro, perhaps bitcoinlivebets did ...   At this time bitcoincasinopro and bitcoinlivebets started to talk about 1 month earlier outpayment instead of on my actual issue which was they had placed a fake bet on my account. Bitcoinlivebets gave a transaction address ( https://blockchain.info/tx/ec5bc76182707a2f8b45e18bf024cfa5aecef6498229e1d3ac0bca880d2300f2 ) to bitcoincasinopro. This transaction address is not my outpayment but bitcoincasinopro accepted it despite of i gave them my login details so they were able to check it that in my transaction list the outpayment address does not match this one https://blockchain.info/tx/ec5bc76182707a2f8b45e18bf024cfa5aecef6498229e1d3ac0bca880d2300f2 )  Up until this time i believied that somebody using his head would see that i am right.  Bitcoincasinopro closed my case without notifying/informing me and published its conslusion on their site http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitcoinlivebets-com/29-60-btc-complaint-against-bitcoinlivebets-com-unsubstantiatedI got to know about this post 2.5 days later i had written my last email to them. I dont understand why they didnt feel the necessity to inform me that they closed my case. This is the lesser issue, the bigger one is that the transaction does not belong to me but it seems it does not matter to nobody. So after bitcoinlivebets placed a fake bet on my account, they mislead bitcoincasinopro with this transaction too. I can understand that it is the worst scenario for a review-site to admit its mistake after they upgraded someone(bitcoinlivebets) from C to B becaue if they admited this mistake they should/would have to downgrade bitcoinlivebets to D and bitcoincasinopro’s reputation is more important than a customer issue/the truth.  I shared my 1st account details to bitcoincasinopro but nothing happend. And there has been lots of questions at the end of one of my emails, to which i have never got any answer.  There is no such transaction in my wallet, but no matter. 7888 17.08.2013, 15:08 Uhr Einzahlung: + 1,094120 BTC  9069 28.08.2013, 01:25 Uhr Auszahlung: 1MCLkWa9BU2vEt5vJG9nojJc78N4WN6dZP -26,474000 BTC My outpayment addres is : 1MCLkWa9BU2vEt5vJG9nojJc78N4WN6dZP Why does it not match to address which bitcoinlivebets gave to bitcoincasinopro? In the world of bitcoin the sender has to prove that it paid btc to the address of the receiver. But bitcoincasinopro may disregard this fact too.   In this email bitcoincasinopro promised they would evaluate the new information (the false transaction) and would get back to me , but i had to write another 5 emails (during the following 10 days) and the last email in which i said i would open a new topic they answered me at last: ”i am an asshole, cancer to the industry”...   + one private message to aksplace : ”why do not bitcoincasinopro answer my emails? ”    I never talked disrespectfully to bitcoincasinopro as you can see in my earlier emails, but i became an asshole, ”cancer to the industry” from the ”mathematical guru”. I do not know why, somebody could explain it?  Bitcoincasinopro should have: - registered a new account and try to place bet and check the limit (what a suprise: only 3 BTC) - looked for another user who was able to place 30 BTC bet in that time interval - asked bitcoinlivebets to prove that the sender address is belong to themselves (but after they upgraded bitcoinlivebets from C to B it was not in their interest to change/downgrade it, what a shame) - prior to publishing their conclusion, they should have informed me about it, they should have asked me about the mentioned transaction (if it belongs to me) - kept their promise to reply to me so that i didnt have to write another emails and wait another 10 days - asked bitcoinlivebets why they charged my 1st 2 withdrawals with 0.5% fee and why not the other withdrawal - asked bitcoinlivebets why my last 2 withdrawals took more than 53 hours to arrive in my bitcoin wallet - asked bitcoinlivebets why there was no announcement (emails to users/ or on their startpage) that they increased the limit from 3 BTC to 30 BTC. (because i suspect that actually there was no limit increasing - you can try it if you register – and only „max bet 3 BTC” disappered from their startpage after i opened this topic on this forum - asked other (bitcoin) bookmakers that if it can be real that a gambling site allows to place $3500 on an itf tennis quarter final match on total games ( it is unreal ) Bitcoincasinopro is so serious site that my emails bounced back at least 3 times within 4 days (beetween 26-30.09.2013), i started to think if it is wheather accidental or not. ”child status 100...The e-mail message could not be delivered because the user's mailfolder is full.” So you can forget about that bitcoincasinopro could protect you/players against such robbing, they can do nothing, so it is time somebody makes a better review-sitte. It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong. http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/1815851/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsxI never got any answer from bitcoincasinopro and bitcoinlivebets to any of my questions. I have nothing to hide, i shared all information/login details/emails. i hope there is some people out there who knows what actually happend here. bitcoinlivebets is an arbheaven (sports arbitrage), if i could do 5-15% arbs you could too (if you are interested in i will make a webpage where i will share all arbs beetween bitcoinlivebets and other sites, send me a pm) |
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Hi.
There is my thread. Feel free to add opinions there.
Thanks.
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briefly: they claim i broke their rules. -one of the rule they refer was added after i registered (29.08.2013),(without any customer notification/confirmation) you can check google web cache to this page : http://bitcoinlivebets.com/index.php?action=agb-the other rule for multiple accounts , i lost both my account password and email address password, so i cant recover it, so i had to create a new account and used only the new one, never made multiple/duplicate bets ,( i cannot access to the lost account) , i told this to bicoinlivebets, refer to other bookmakers behavior in such cases (lost account and new account) but 2 days left and i havent got any answer (my only fault is not to contact them when i create this new account, and bitcoinlivebets think it should cost me 30 BTC, 3500$ ) so i decide to share all about this issue to everybody on this forum and please help me, give me bitcoin/betting links/sites/forums , where to share and here is the whole story: i made 2 withdrawals 12 BTC and 20.89 BTC four and five days ago. After about 30 hours from my first withdrawal i wrote a support ticket , because i did not get my btc. ”more than 1 day left from my withdrawal , it is time to send it to my address (both)” ”Sorry for the delay. We just sent you the Bitcoins.” but i got 1.2 and 2.089 BTC only, without any other comment, so only 10% and they added a false bet to my accounthistory (perhaps to zero my account balance) Total number of games 20.5 Romeo, Caroline - Szupper, Marlies o -147 Stake: 29,601000 BTC (Bet by slip 29,601000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC i asked them about this false bet and why i got only 10% of my btc the answer: "please note you earned with your first account already 16 BTC with bets which we offered accidently and no other bookmaker offered. You saw, that we paid you immediately this amount instead of voiding these bets (we could do that according to our Terms but we didnt). However, this time we are not able to pay more than the amounts of 1.2 and 2.089 BTC you apparently requested, paid out yesterday both. Note that due to our General Terms and Conditions it is not allowed to hold multiple accounts like you did. It is also not allowed to crawl the pages like you did. You accepted, but broke the rules." I contacted them again : "i think it is my and your interest to solve this issue. First of all, i never made any duplicated/multiple bets, check it please, I moved another flat and i lost my password for this site and the password for my email address, so it was impossible to recover it and use it. i had to create another account. (you should consider multiple accounts without multipe bets equal to single account, because the goal to forbid multiple accounts is to forbid multiple bets on the same market, not to get around the stake limit, i never did, you can check it) okey it is my fault not to contact you at this time and say that i lost my account and could i create another one. sorry for that if you know all what you say why are you waiting so far? i do not understand (in ie8 the support answer cannot be opened ) i was the first who give you trust on bitcointalk.org http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wkd1xD4d4b4J:bitcoinlivebets.com/index.php%3Faction%3Dagb+&cd=1It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 11 Sep 2013 13:28:58 GM ”It is not allowed to use the site with tools which refresh it automatically (for example to crawl the odds).” so you add this new rule after i registered, and i never get any notification/email that your rules changed, and you never asked your customers to accept the new rules. and after all of you trying to refer this rule. - you can try to forbid to crawl(  ) your page but earlier betway.com tried to do similiar think, but removed it later not to losing its gambling license https://www.bookmakersreview.com/bookmaker-news/betway-removes-terms-targeting-matched-bettors-and-arbers/44248" Earlier last week, at the end of a review of the sportsbook rules, the Maltese bookmaker decided to remove the infamous rule and released the following official statement we publish in full: "During early 2009, a paragraph was added to our terms and conditions that specifically disallowed matched betting and arbitrage betting. "" " However, if the creation of multiple accounts is seen to be an honest mistake (for example you forgot your password and tried to create a new account rather than contacting support for assistance) then we will close the players duplicate account and transfer any balances to their original account at no additional charge." i admit to make a mistake not to contacting to you when make a new account, but please you do not make a bigger mistake to hold back my BTC. so my only fault is not to contact you when i lost my accout password (and email) and made a new account, but never placed any multiple/duplicate bet. and you think it should cost me 30 BTC about 3500 $ " 2 days left but no answer, i asked them 3 hours ago again when will they answer, but still no answer (in their gambling topic there is an answer from yesterday so they read my answers/tickets) |
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before dowalla issue it was the same
when will be the same again ?
at the moment 7$is the difference
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sepa on 2013/04/09 i asked for cancellation 2013/05/07 cancelled 2013/05/08 only 10.000 EuR bye bye mtgox, forever " Linda Support, May 08 19:31 (JST): Hello, We understand that the delay has been unacceptable. We are already in the process of increasing the withdrawal limit which we are expecting to be complete in the coming weeks. So please give us some time and the withdrawal should be processed soon. I have cancelled the withdrawal as requested. Thanks, MtGox.com Team" in January mtgox said the same and nothing happend since then https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140488 |
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how could i trasfer my bitcoins to an online wallet (skrill,neteller,ecocard) ?
after it i could cash out via its mastercard
of course i can change btc at exhanges like mtgox but can withdrawal only to my bank account
but i do not know anything about taxation yet ( i do not trade btc, i won my bitcoins via sportsbetting)
it takes time to know what i have to do
(tax authority will ask questions if i withdraw too much )
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withdrawal request: january 10th , not processed, mt.gox could not tell me when will i get my money mtgox is the largest/best bitcoin exchange? you are joking can't send me 28.000 eur form a polish bank to a hungarian bank more than 3 weeks i think you should consider not to use mtgox anymore , if you want to see your cash again via mtgox here are mtgox answer: changing time to time jan 18th "On checking I can see that the withdrawal is still being processed and it should go through soon. We will keep you posted once the withdrawal is processed. Let us know if you have any other questions." jan 22th " I apologize for the delay and will update you as soon as possible." jan 24th "the transaction is queued up and we are yet to get an update from our developer" , "we are unable to provide an exact ETA" jan 28th "The delay is due to the withdrawal limits imposed on us by our bank. We are working with them regarding this and the withdrawals will be cleared soon. I will keep you updated on this. " feb 1 "We apologise for the delay in the withdrawals. Due to our daily bank withdrawal limit on our Polish account, all withdrawals are queued and will be processed according to the queue. Also I can see that your withdrawal is very high and you can consider cancelling this and then request like 1,000 EUR each and that will be processed faster. We have also contacted the bank and we are working with them to increase the withdrawal limits. " so my money is still at mtgox in a queue , and not in a bank queue "1,000 EUR each and that will be processed faster" 28.000 EUR = 28 days , so mt.gox claim that 28 days is faster than the current witdrawal process (21 days+28days), so i wont get my money in this month February if 1000 EUR could work then it means if you withdraw only 1000 EUR or below mtgox will put your request before my request in the queue so if you do this enough time, perhaps will never get my "very high" amout https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138528.0guess when will i get my money? march, april ? or give me advice what to do |
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from mtgox website :
""Be aware that once this form has been submitted, all attached documentation will be reviewed. This process may take up to 5 business days to complete, and you will be notified of the outcome of this review."
- my documents delivered on December 13th (from Hungary 2 days only, DHL)
"from December 24th to January 7th, Mt.Gox will work in limited capacity"
they had 6.5 working days before holiday to verify, but they did nothing
after holiday it took 4 more working days to verify (despite of i contact them 10 times)
- so my account verified only on January 10th (after 27 days)
i ask for withdrawal on January 10th
"As is standard for SEPA customers should expect a 1 to 5 working day delay from the time the withdrawal is initiated until seeing funds arrive in your personal bank account."
Earlier i deposited from my bank account, it took only 2-4 days
after 5 working days i contact them, where my money is , they answer "I apologize for the delay and will update you as soon as possible." i got this answer many times.
today, after 10 working days left i used their live chat, operator : "the transaction is queued up and we are yet to get an update from our developer" , "we are unable to provide an exact ETA"
so after 10 working days , my transaction is only queued up, this is bullshit, deposit worked within 2-4 days, but payout not
"All funds will be send through our Polish account and will involve the following fees:"
so they mtgox unable to process a bank transfer from a Polish bank to an Hungarian bank
so after 41 days (December 13th) i still cannot get my money from mtgox
what to do ?
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