I don't know what wallet you were using, but those chips were FUNDED! To prevent anyone else from taking them, I tried to sweep the addresses.
Thank you LoyceV for sweeping private keys so fast! It's great that no money has been lost. Also your guess about "p2wpkh:" is correct. |
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A day ago i use chipmixer and wait about a minutes after getting 2 confirmed on the blockchain, so what happens?. because a couple months ago, I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.
Nothing changed. One confirmation for deposits less than 20 BTC. Or their node is a bit slow..  It is possible. |
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But it's ideal for scammers, criminals, terrorists and enables narcotraffic!
Maybe we'll realize very soon: mixers are very damaging for Bitcoin because scams and crime is enabled on a large scale.
Nothing new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_InfocalypseThe term was coined by Timothy C. May in 1988. May referred to "child pornographers, terrorists, drug dealers, etc.".[2] May used the phrase to express disdain for what he perceived as "Think of the children" argumentation by government officials and others seeking to justify limiting civilian use of cryptography tools.
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ChipMixer cannot link certificate they give you with certificate you redeem because it is blinded. Doesn't that require ChipMixer to operate as a bank, and have users exchange those certificates, like money? Bitcoin wiki solution is based on on-chain contract and tries to solve many problems. If you use centralized off-chain "chip bank" and accept you do not want to solve all problems then only problem to solve is how to hide it from "chip bank". Blinding solves that. when the bank sees a signed certificate in the future, the bank will only know that the certificate is any one of the currently-unspent certificates, not which one it is.
Here's an even better idea: Lightning. Users hold similar to these certificates (commitment transactions), which they can exchange with the entire lightning network. Not only do they get better privacy (since lightning has more activity than ChipMixer), but the users also maintain self-custody. Alice sends you 1mBTC and gets 1mBTC via LN (the "voucher" essentially). Blinded paths (which are soon to be implemented) can protect Alice from doxxing her node's public key to you. Once she's ready to spend the chip on-chain, she just sends you the bitcoin via lightning, and takes the chip traditionally.
This may be good idea. |
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Okay, I have a genuine question since the majority here mentioned mixing services such as Chipmixer. Let's suppose that I have a fully verified account on Binance; they have my ID, tax number, full address, and everything, and I purchase at some point $10.000 worth of bitcoin. How can it become untraceable since a CEX that has all my personal details knows that at some point I bought X amount of bitcoin? The mixer will only make the transactions untraceable back to me, but a centralized organization already knows what I've bought in the past.
Sell same amount on same CEX. Have proof you sold what you bought and have nothing. Buy same amount on non KYC exchange. Never use KYC exchange again. |
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Yes, but just pointing out that at least with things like BTC / crypto in general .01 or .0025 or anything like that just seems to be a bit more what people are expecting then 0.128
When ChipMixer was created 1 mBTC was 1 Pound. You want to mix 60 Pounds - you deposit 60 mBTC. Your largest chip is 32 mBTC. How much is it worth? 32 Pounds. Can you deposit .0025? How much mBTC is that? 2.5 mBTC? Then you cannot because 0.5 mBTC will be donated. There are chips called "common chips" sized 250 mBTC, 500 mBTC, 1000 mBTC (1 BTC). You can "commonize" 256 mBTC into 250 mBTC while donating 6 mBTC. |
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ChipMixer could never buy an ad space on forum, as theymos never sold forum ad space to centralized mixers . We did buy some ads on forum when it was allowed. It is not allowed after ICOs started buying ads. They were paying few BTC per spot and they were not honeypots just scam. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4687063.0ChipMixer clearnet hosting IP was outed in public, as they never used CloudFlare for cover.
ChipMixer is gov honey pot because they never used CloudFlare which is called greatest Man-In-The-Middle Attack? |
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Maybe easier for humans who use money because of similar values?)  Are you sure? £1 = 20 shillings (20s).
1 shilling = 12 pence (12d).
1 penny = 2 halfpennies and (earlier) 4 farthings (half farthing, a third of a farthing, and quarter farthing coins
1 BTC chip = 20 shilling chips 1 shilling chip = 12 pence chips 1 pence chip = 2 halfpennies chips = 4 farthings chips may use half and third and quaret farthings if BTC price go up |
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P.S.
If services like ChipMixer operated based on blinded bearer certificates, then they'd be in many ways superior to both of the above mixing methods. Someone should work on this.
How exactly is it possible to obfuscate the connection between i/p & o/p for Mixer operator using blinded bearer certificate? With other mixer it would be hard. With ChipMixer it is possible. We already remove onchain connection between inputs and outputs. Blinded bearer certificates would hide it from us. For example you deposit and instead of chip you get voucher. You swap voucher for blinded bearer certificate. After some time you redeem blinded bearer certificate for chip. ChipMixer cannot link certificate they give you with certificate you redeem because it is blinded. |
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I am pro-privacy and I support the existence of mixers
And yet you organize mob to close this one because other was closed down? Similar to invading another country to 'end all wars'. I consider myself a friend of the US government, and I am happy to stop talking about ChipMixer if requested.
No. Promote it. Write good articles. Praise it. |
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FatManTerra does make some compelling statements.
Ngl, @chipmixer's silence about the tweet is quite concerning.
What statements are compelling? About the profit model Can you at least quote them here? As any tech entrepreneur will tell you, donations are usually not a viable business model.
Wikipedia got $162 million donations in 2021. Donations are viable business model if your service is valuable. ChipMixer paid out several large alpha tester bounties
Year 2017. About 10 mBTC each at BTC around $1000. with expenses in the tens or hundreds of bitcoins
And in 2017 only most powerful governments in world would even have tens of bitcoins? |
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FatManTerra does make some compelling statements.
Ngl, @chipmixer's silence about the tweet is quite concerning.
What statements are compelling? |
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I still say if you lost funds on FTX, you should thank Chipmixer advertisers for supporting the theft and attempted laundering of funds owed to you.
Owner and CTO - not guilty. Alameda who borrowed and gambled with funds - not guilty. All projects funded with user funds never to return - not guilty. Hacker from story invented weeks after FTX bankrupted - not guilty. Altcoins and Defi that moved funds - not guilty. Exchanges that exchanged altcoins to bitcoin - not guilty. ChipMixer (also called part of top govs) - guilty. Out of all people on this list only ChipMixer did not get % of those funds. |
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Google will happily host and promote scam sites, software, apps, and so on, without a second thought, as long as the scammers are willing to pay. Still using Google for anything is the biggest mistake here.
Also one time they took it (few years old .com) down because new domain (few months .online maybe) filed for copyright. So there's this random guy called FatManTerra who usually babbles about Luna but is now claiming that Chipmixer is a NSA honeypot
Mind debunking that news for us?
Try our customer service then try any gov customer service. |
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I wonder, if someone has a hardware wallet - such as a Trezor - would he/she still be able to send the coins to his/her hardware wallet in a mostly private way? (Assuming that whoever is using the Trezor is connected to his own full node[1])
Hardware wallets are good for keeping funds safe but they are not good for privacy. Even if you use your own full node each time you use it there may be time you will have to use their web wallet and all your history and addresses will be linked. Most private way to use hardware wallet - hold your funds there and mix some before you send them out. Create empty electrum wallet and import chips if you use ChipMixer or create new seed wallet if you use other mixers. Delete used wallet. If you do not reuse wallet then it cannot be linked by accident. |
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Is it possible to design the FAQ-Website in an way that is able to load with the highest security settings in Tor.
Thank you. It will be changed at next update. |
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was it some kind of breach. Is our privacy compromised?
It wasn't. Privacy of users was not compromised. |
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Can you elaborate on what actually happened and why the website was down for those 3 days?
I would like to elaborate but I cannot. That could give adversaries some clues. |
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ChipMixer website is up again.Session time is 7 days, website was not available for 3 days and therefore all sessions are still alive. Please use them right now. If you have any problem, please write us an email. All emails up to now are responded. Is there any chance that in a near future it will be possible to mix using the .com version if you can fix the troubles that it brought?
Or the decision is final
Amount of people falling for a scams reduced drastically. I don't think we will go back to clearnet. So what if the BTC is sitting in my session and the 7 day session expires while the site is down? In this case I never really had the chance to withdraw the funds.
We will extend all sessions in a case like this. You can be sure no one will lose money on a site unavailability. I was planning to do three withdraws over four days.
For this purpose we created vouchers. Vouchers never expire. Get voucher, destroy session. Get back when you're ready and take some amount, leave rest on another voucher, destroy session. Repeat...
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