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241  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 10, 2015, 06:49:56 PM
I once played here and I was a constrained by withdraw on your site, and it lasted until 2 days ... but I do feedback and now I have received ..

I hope in the future of your site better
Thank  Grin

congrats dude, nice to see you get your payment, i hope this site is legit, but 2 days is long, but how many bitcoins did u withdraw from this site? if this site has turned out to be legit in the end, i will remove the neg rate from op, i hope no scam in the world especially bitcoin community
242  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 10, 2015, 04:44:02 PM

Well you're hearing wrong man personally I experienced them paying out it might not an instant payment because they process withdrawal manually but rest assured that your going to be paid ,  I received my payout in this site several times it is very trusted. Their customer support is also nice.
Just because your tiny payout bonus may have been processed doesn't mean they are not scam. They are very shady, with their unbelievable bonus(14 BTC no deposit, yeah right..) and their shady past, I wouldn't advise anyone to play on their site until it is well recieved by the community.
Just search for "betcoin.tm scam" will ya?
A quote from Stunna:
http://bitcoinsource.net/betcoin-tms-allegedly-fraudulent-unethical-and-illegal-activity/   (Good summary of their unethical behavior)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297110.0

Betcoin.TM has always been at best incredibly sketchy and deceptive and at worst an outright scam. Erik Voorhees was convinced that they were ddosing Satoshidice for quite some time. betcoin.tm and 999dice are two websites I would never trust with a single satoshi.


Exactly. This, combined with the fact that they dont have instant and AUTOMATIC withdrawals is very disturbing.

AKAIK this site is a very notorious scam, they offer so high bonus is this possible? it must be a scam, if bet365 has such kind of promo, it will be broke easily, so i don't think this site is legit, it won't pay u guys. this fake bonus is the way to lure u deposit, and then they don't allow your large withdrawals.

I heard this site's owner is a Chinese or Hongkongese scammer, don't play here. i have already gave him neg rate
243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 09, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
I need one more goal from bayern munich but thomas muller missed the penalty, damn very sad, i could earned 6 btc from this match but ended with 2-0, i got a draw result cause i bought bayern -2 with 2.41 odds
244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2015-16 Regular Season Discussion on: December 09, 2015, 06:05:11 PM
Miami vs Charlotte - Miami @ 1.9
Atlanta vs Dallas - Atlanta @ 1.88
Houston vs Washington - Houston @ 2.22
I will place on these teams individual rates are good but I will make a toto-parlay of these three.
I will say do like me and go for over/under points as there are chances of winning higher and easy to win.In basketball favorite teams often loose matches so be careful on what to place your bets.

good points, dude, so you have very high accuracy before? i will follow you if i think your choices are correct.
245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 09, 2015, 05:41:34 PM
https://sports.betcoin.ag/ShareTicket/?ticketid=131348

i bet 10mbtc on a 107X odds parlay, what's your opinion guys? btw, i choose bayer leverkusen cause naymar will be absent in today's match, and bayer wanna win so they have chance to play in the next round.

Chelsea - Porto
Match Winner: Chelsea 2.16

Dinamo Zagreb - Bayern Munchen
Match Winner: Bayern Munchen 1.28

Dinamo Kyiv - Maccabi Tel Aviv
Match Winner: Dinamo Kyiv 1.16

KAA Gent - Zenit St. Petersburg
Match Winner: Zenit St. Petersburg 3.20

Olympiacos - Arsenal
Match Winner: Arsenal 1.96

Valencia - Lyon
Match Winner: Valencia 1.43

Bayer Leverkusen - Barcelona
Match Winner: Bayer Leverkusen 3.05

AS Roma - BATE Borisov
Match Winner: AS Roma 1.23

Possible Return: 1079.11
246  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino on: December 09, 2015, 05:09:04 PM
cloudbet live betting is suxx, unfair
if you want to place a bet then you have to wait at least 5 secounds, this is common
but if the price is going down at this time then your bet will be refused, but
if the price is going up your bet will be accepted at the lower price


for example

i tried to place a bet at 1.75
i was waiting for the bet accepted ,  i can see that the page refresed and the price was 2.0 but
cloudbet accepted my bet at 1.75


Huh??


did u choose "accept best odds" option? i remember you can set it, and i think maybe after u placed the bets, the odds became better, which means it was not higher when u bet.



There is no "accept better odds"

Cloudbet should make available this option
if not then they should refuse the bet and allow the user the repalce its bet at the higher price
this behavior that they accept the bet at the lower price while the price is much more  is unfair


yes, if the odds increased during the period of processing your orders, it is unfair to you, and all of other players, i think they should improve the rule or adding the accept better odds option.
247  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best Sportsbetting Bookmaker with Bitcoin on: December 09, 2015, 04:52:23 PM
for football odds, the best one is nitrogensports.eu, but the betting limit is not huge, around 4-8 btc,

so does betcoin.ag, which offers 7.X btc betting limit,

if you are a high stake player, go to cloudbet must be the best choice, with 100 btc highest betting limit, which is the highest in btc community, even as high as fiat sportsbooks.
248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2015-16 Regular Season Discussion on: December 09, 2015, 04:49:11 PM
i placed a parlay, 13 mbtc parlay to win 940 mbtc,

https://sports.betcoin.ag/ShareTicket/?ticketid=131352


Charlotte Hornets - Miami Heat
Match Winner: Miami Heat 1.91

Boston Celtics - Chicago Bulls
Match Winner: Chicago Bulls 2.28

Washington Wizards - Houston Rockets
Match Winner: Houston Rockets 2.38

Toronto Raptors - San Antonio Spurs
Match Winner: San Antonio Spurs 1.43

Detroit Pistons - Memphis Grizzlies
Match Winner: Detroit Pistons 1.56

Minnesota Timberwolves - Los Angeles Lakers
Match Winner: Minnesota Timberwolves 1.35

Milwaukee Bucks - Los Angeles Clippers
Match Winner: Los Angeles Clippers 1.44

Utah Jazz - New York Knicks
Match Winner: Utah Jazz 1.61
249  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino on: December 09, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
cloudbet live betting is suxx, unfair
if you want to place a bet then you have to wait at least 5 secounds, this is common
but if the price is going down at this time then your bet will be refused, but
if the price is going up your bet will be accepted at the lower price


for example

i tried to place a bet at 1.75
i was waiting for the bet accepted ,  i can see that the page refresed and the price was 2.0 but
cloudbet accepted my bet at 1.75


Huh??


did u choose "accept best odds" option? i remember you can set it, and i think maybe after u placed the bets, the odds became better, which means it was not higher when u bet.
250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 08, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Amazing matches between MU VS Wolfsberg and PSV VS Moscow, when Moscow 1-0 i thought MU had chance to win, but PSV beat moscow in the end, congrats PSV, sorry to hear that MU has to play Europa League now, sad story, i hope Asenal and chelsea will win tomorrow.
For many years there was no Dutch club in the next round. PSV did a great job have to admit even I am AJAX supporter.

are you from Holland? I am also AJAX support, nice to see PSV goes into next round, congrats PSV, they did a great job cause they 0-1 in almost 80 mins, but they didn't give up, i have to say this is the spirit we need to have, never give up, impossible is nothing!
251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 08, 2015, 09:38:50 PM
Amazing matches between MU VS Wolfsberg and PSV VS Moscow, when Moscow 1-0 i thought MU had chance to win, but PSV beat moscow in the end, congrats PSV, sorry to hear that MU has to play Europa League now, sad story, i hope Asenal and chelsea will win tomorrow.
252  Economy / Gambling / Re: KINGOFBITCOIN CRAZY ACCUMULATOR TODAY ODD 72 on: December 08, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
72X odds is very good, 1 mbtc is not risky at all, so good luck, but i just wonder what sports do u bet? soccer or what? i don't see any info about the sports on the bet slip, i will follow u if you got many right bets
253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever win something big in demo mode and feel stupid? on: December 08, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
Like you are trying out a new gambling website with a cool game of dice, slots, roulette or whatever, and you start with the additional demo credits, keep playing, and you are on a lucky strike and end up with 1+ BTC but since the credits are all fake because you are in demo mode, it's all for nothing. This happened to me once and felt pretty stupid. It's not only bad luck, but having good useless luck which is even kinda hilarious.

haha when i have time i will do that to try the games, but one of my friend who works in a fiat casino told that the slots can get any result if you wanna, so they can set very high expected return like over 100% to lure players, and when the players play the money mode, the expected return turns into 95% or lower, very shady, so i won't trust slots any more.
254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2015-16 Regular Season Discussion on: December 08, 2015, 06:31:01 PM
GSW -6 points will be a safe bet imo, GSW usually destroy the opponent in 3 quarters, if curry is on fire, he will lead GSW to beat pacers very easily, although pacers is ranking 2nd in Eastern conference, but they still don't have any chance to beat GSW
255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Behaviors Lead to Gambling Addiction on: December 08, 2015, 05:16:10 PM
1. wanna be rich and very greedy
2. need some urgent money but don't have it, so have to gamble to win the easy money.
3. wanna hit jackpot, no matter players play for fun or money.
4. professional gamblers like gambling and they have gambling addiction, but most of them are losing money Shocked
256  Economy / Gambling / Re: Why are ppl so ignorant and stubborn when it comes to dice and referrals??? on: December 08, 2015, 05:01:29 PM
Highrollers are not interested in affiliate cuts generally because the amounts they get back seem to be significantly smaller to them and not worth the effort.

If a highroller wagers 1000BTC on a dice site, he would likely win a lot or lose a lot.
If he does take the time to sign up using the link you give, he would be gaining 1000BTC * 1% * 10% * 50% = 0.5BTC.

Suppose he loses all his bankroll what is he going to do with 0.5BTC?
Suppose he wins a few hundred bitcoins, does it actually make a difference?


This is why highrollers tend to stick to 1% flat edge sites and does not leave to other sites like say Betterbets (which has a rakeback system) or Rollin (which has a levelling system and weekly wagered prizes). So they tend to stick with the site they are comfortable with which is why Primedice remains the market leader by large.


Another way of understanding it is, let us divide people into two, one who actually prefers a 0.7% house edge over 1% etc. and the one who is not. Highrollers beyond doubt falls into the latter category. The former consists of people ideally wouldn't bet in the first place because it is negative EV.

tl;dr Highrollers are generally insensitive to variations in (effective) house edge (to a level).


thats what I think.

your answer is totally correct cause whales don't care and they afraid to meet scammers, they will feel unhappy if their uplines won't pay them, it is one reason imo.

the other reason i cam up with is that nobody or a few guy is willing to be referrals cause they don't wanna let other people get free money, like me, i never wanna anyone makes money from my losses, i would feel my uplines wanna me lose money, feel weird.
257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Biggest win with the smallest amount ever bet? on: December 08, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
I've seen some threads of similar fashion but no one asks the following:

What was the bet that delivered the biggest gains, while risking the smallest amount of money? I remember a bet that was something like 20$ and the guy hits the jackpot and wins 15 BTC, $5000 at the time, it was in bitcoinvideocasino.

What is the biggest win with the smallest risked money that you know?

i saw some guys bet 0.002 btc for 1000X in dice site, and they won the roll, so they can earn 2 btc from that tiny bets, which is awesome. i wanna know more guys have won big jackpot stories, or great parlay on sports betting. i remember one guy bet 0.01 btc on 13-match parlay and won 10 btc, which is very very awesome and lucky
258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: December 08, 2015, 04:52:43 PM
i hope english 3 teams, arsenal, manchester united and chelsea will continue their journeys in this season, English premier league is one of the best league in the world, IMO if those 3 teams lost the matches today, it is a shame for UK
259  Economy / Gambling / Re: Causes of gambling for some poeple? on: December 08, 2015, 04:41:19 PM
Guys what do you think for you that what cab be causes of the gambling?

My wife and her family broke(poor) in this gambling because my wife addicted on some gambling
called binggo, she's addicted in that game and she can't control by her parents and also her house and lot sold
to use it to play binggo again.. but still lost it..
For now she is still suffer about this and looking for another way to get it back all her losses...


sorry to hear that, that's a very sad story, bingo has very low expected return, which means very high house edges, unless a very very few lucky guys who can win the jackpot, ordinary people don't have luck on it. if she likes betting on sports betting or blackjack, that's will be a different story, maybe she will be rich from sports betting or blackjack
Yeah i agree with you but she's addicted in binggo and even a i explain it much. it will not work..
maybe someday she can realize what her doing before.. and someday she realize that the money is important in our life..


this kind of games like bingo, lottery are wasting money games, so does keno or other similar lottery games, the house edges are high, a few people can win that, only 0.0001% lucky guys, so i never play that, i only play sports betting or blackjack, slots, which can be profitable.
260  Economy / Gambling / Re: ░▒▓█ ★ Coinroll ★ 170k+ BTC Wagered | Instant Dice Game | 1% Edge ★ █▓▒░ on: December 08, 2015, 05:51:15 AM
Not advertised anywhere, not being talked about for months on the forum. Still one of the first off-chain dice site, still pulling volume, still ranking among the top.  Cool

So, where are our users hiding?

it is hard to believe your site is so popular in the community, i never heard your site but your volume is so big, and wagering amount is good too, where are your players and why they don't pump your thread, i just wonder it.
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