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Well definitely Sparkster, I doubt anyone could dispute that. They screwed thousands of investors with false promises, delivering a product that a first year student in a tech/computer high school could throw together. All in all, a major clusterfuck that left a big black spot on some "established" crypto influencers as well.
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I am a big fan of Trust wallet if we are talking about the "hot" ones. But for the actual long term holding, nothing can ever beat the hardware wallet, my choice is Trezor as well, but there is nothing wrong with picking a cheaper alternative as Ledger.
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A silly question as probably all answers will be "sell at the top", but anyway, I would fill my bag with BNB and Chainlink, participate in the Tron and Qtum ICO, basically things that I passed on when I had the chance.
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And a reminder for potential newcomers: you will have to do a full KYC to even be in consideration for the reward. And the payment will most likely be in fiat (if you win your claim) to your bank account (not in crypto). Take this into account before even starting the process of filling the claim.
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I have no idea how to scrap the sheet, but I would be willing to participate in the mass reaching out to the bounty participants (at least the ones that participated in "bigger" campaigns such as signatures and translations)...
I don't have the time yet to check it correctly but I think there is a permission link needed from the author of the spreadsheet to do this. I tried to do something but there is no way without permission from the creator, even if you download this spreadsheet. The only way to do something is to manually add all usernames from spreadsheet to PM. I think to inform only signature campaign participants would be enough to spread the word because it is 900 members. A lot of work, so if you want to help, then we have start to do it right now because only 3 days left. Did you perhaps already made a template? Also is this mass PM sending allowed here or are they any restrictions? Just to be sure so I wont make any silly mistakes and receive a warning or even something worse. ps. I will be sending notifications to translators, those will probably be the most eager to file claims as they "earned" the most. And stakes for the sig campaign are not complete (only stakes for bonus activity and special bounty are entered), so I am not sure how those participants will be able convincingly present their "case". edit: done, I have sent a reminder to all translators, most of them have been last active on Bitcointalk months ago, some years ago, so we shall see. |
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Indeed, but there is another place to include all the additional info, it is in the next "step" of the filling process called "additional documents", so I will attach my file with "proofs" there. I as well left some spaces blank or put something like "bounty program" in brackets or "/", I hope they wont dismiss it because of it. Anyway, good luck to everyone!
I did exactly this same and advise every bounty hunter to do this same. Most important thing is that many bounty hunters do this because only then there is a chance that the claiming service will look deeper into it. Remember this is the first time anybody is doing such claims so even this claiming service wasn't sure how and when they will proceed. There is still a spreadsheet open for Envion bounty and there are all usernames of participants. I am sure there is a way to scrap google document but I don't know how to do it. If anybody can help with this task it would be great because I could use these usernames to send a message about the claiming process to all bounty participants. If anybody knows how and will do it please let me know. I have no idea how to scrap the sheet, but I would be willing to participate in the mass reaching out to the bounty participants (at least the ones that participated in "bigger" campaigns such as signatures and translations). I guess it could be done only via Bitcointalk PMs. But there is also a catch as bounty manager didnt even assign stakes to some of the campaigns. So I guess only the translators and sig wearers (from the "big" ones) could fill the claim as their stakes are already on the sheet. edit: That being said, they (liquidation team) apparently claimed they will treat everyone equally (including bounty participants) so even if we are in small numbers, we shouldn't be ignored, but who knows. |
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Btw, does anyone know if bounty participants should attach the "no purchase documents" form as well? I tried to reach LUP regarding this but got no answer.
I did it because we have indeed not purchased ENV tokens during ICO only worked for the Envion team. Additionally, in this document, there is a place to explain your claim and that is the reason I did it. It was the only place to put links and all explanations. To be honest I filled all documents and places I wasn't sure how or what to put in them, I just left empty if possible and if not I put XXX instead. ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT TO CLAIM YOUR BOUNTY TOKENS!!! HERE LINK: https://portal.envion-konkurs.ch/loginIndeed, but there is another place to include all the additional info, it is in the next "step" of the filling process called "additional documents", so I will attach my file with "proofs" there. I as well left some spaces blank or put something like "bounty program" in brackets or "/", I hope they wont dismiss it because of it. Anyway, good luck to everyone! |
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Btw, does anyone know if bounty participants should attach the "no purchase documents" form as well? I tried to reach LUP regarding this but got no answer.
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I don't expect that 2020 will be good for IEO and bounty hunters. We have expected 2019 will be a good year but this year frustrated me a lot and my investment are about to ruin and 90% loss prevail now. We can hope 2020 will bring good situation. We need to be patient and hold our tokens.
Well, if that will be the case, then we will move our goalpost another year further haha. But I do believe that 2020 will be much more tolerable and HODL-ers wont be on suicide watch so often as in the span of the previous two years. It may not reach the craziness of the 2017 bull, but it be a sizable one nonetheless. |
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It is just a new reality when it comes to bounty hunting, I am not aware of this particular case, but bounty managers can still enforce new rules even at the end of the campaign without facing any grave consequences, so it is on you to closely follow the development of the campaign from the beginning until the end if you dont want to stumble upon such an unpleasant surprises as it is previously unannounced KYC.
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I as well dont really have a plan B, but I am in the crypto space for the long run so I am not too worried about those mid term price action disappointments. On the other hand it would be swell to keep the value of portfolio intact during such a unexpected turn of events, but I am not sure how to do that without exiting the market. So yes, I will probably stick with it and hold my bags and try to survive the extended crypto winter.
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I mean it is not as easy as that, many people do their thorough due diligence on projects before investing in them, but even after that the results may be devastating as there are a plethora of factors in the play and even one of them goes astray, the whole thing collapses. But yea, the starting statement of the OP is pretty much a basic logic, but too many people still fail at it.
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Its interesting to read previous responses in this topic as I have been out of loop with the whole "dark market" scene for the past couple of years. Back in the golden days of Agora and Silk Road, BTC was still the main player on the street, but now I am noticing that a hefty number of them have changed to Monero, a move that is not surprising at all.
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I am very reserved in making prognosis when it comes to crypto as it is such a unpredictable ecosystem. But I agree that we should see a proper bull season, the one that we have been waiting for for 2 years now. But I lack the optimism about the extent of it, it may be totally underwhelming, especially because of the fact that everyone is expecting it to follow the 2017 pattern.
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Heh, yea, this is a fairly common knowledge, especially if you are dealing with a ton of newer currencies or the more obscure ones. But I guess it is worth pointing it out as it may results in less frustration and worrying of crypto newbies and more time being saved by team members who wont have to deal with those kind of questions/requests.
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Your portfolio is extremely risky as you are holding mostly "older" alts, most of them have already been forgotten by the major part of crypto community and may never return on the paths of their old glory. But I understand that its extremely difficult to re-balance your portfolio right now as this would mean selling those alts almost at the rock bottom. But who knows, maybe we will again witness the hyper alt season and your "forgotten" alts will flourish again, fingers crossed.
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Totally agree with a bunch of people above me, just ignore the market newcomers and you will be safe. Stick to already established currencies and face the fact that the times of 100x ROI in couple of months are probably over for good, so chasing the new hot thing would be way too destructive for your overall portfolio. You can still make big bucks investing in a lot safer bets.
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The best time for Bounty hunting has gone, what we are doing now is mere survival hunting. What I know is that if many hunters now get alternative way of making money online, they will quit bounty hunting because it is not profitable again.
No need to over-dramatize the situation, its just another bump in the road for the bounty hunting scene. It is not the first and it wont be the last, that is for sure. If you really believe in the essence of blockchain, you should not give up so easily. All of those "non-profitable" coins that you are earning now may be worth quite a lot in the next alt-season. |
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