-So whenever a new coin pops up do you automatically say "no community development and support-therefore scam"? Is a coin supposed to have an active dev community the first month into it's existence? Is that what happened with LTC, DOGE?
-Whenever a free airdropped coin is created by Dev, there needs to some controls in place until the project is able to stand on it's own 2 legs. It's a safeguard to prevent people from signing up only to make a quick buck. Look at Byteball as an example. Solid free airdrop project with a very talented dev. Once people caught on, there were regular pump and dumps cycles timed with every airdrop which really hurt the project. Now dev is changing some airdrop parameters to help prevent this behavior.
-Again you're undervaluing the marketing. Onion dev team could have taken the other approach of Develop quietly and market later but that formula is not working in today's climate. Again i used the example that Bitbay and blocknet devs have been developing quietly for years with no marketing. There are too many projects these days that you need to generate attention first or you will be buried. There is a market for this project b/c there is not TOR coin that has broken out yet likely due to lack of marketing. Maybe Dev believes in the tech and can present it in a way that it can potentially be adopted.
If Dev really wanted to make $ and dump, do you honestly think a TOR coin would have been the best platform to choose? He could have forked DASH or cobbled together something with masternode, airdropped it and it would probably be 10x the price of onion.
1. LTC/DOGE is actually a few developers. In any case, do you see me praising these coins? No. 2. "Onion dev team", ITS ONE PERSON. Bitcoinplus has TOR integration. It is worth way more than DeepOnion. What are you talking about? 3. This project is actually 4 months old. I provide exactly what he has done in 4 months...Hardly anything man. 4. Yes I think a TOR coin was a good platform to chose. No, he is very methodical. The way he is airdropping now is exactly how he is going to make "a quick buck". In fact, a quick hundred thousand bucks. |
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I will just use the HTTP API for the balances page startsts. If you could fund it with CROC that'd be helpful. If you could give me some API documents instead of me having to reverse engineer the API that'd be great.
I know the perfect game to implement. Shouldn't take long. It will be Cee-lo: a chinese street dice game. Watch a video on it - super simple, yet competitive.
The game's flow will be:
1. Enter your CROC address
2. Send CROC to game server address (cryptohub.online wallet)
3. Game server is constantly checking (cryptohub.online should offer a websocket for this, startsts!) to see if any TX is sent to the CROC address, from their address, for a certain amount. User has 10 minutes to send the TX before the session expires.
4. Game server finds the TX; looks for any users connected with that address + amount entered, and waits for 2 confirmations.
5. Game starts
6. User wins -> game server sends winnings
7. User loses -> game server keeps winnings
Unoriginally, I'm going to call it "Croc-lo".
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For Faucet or cryptogame to make payments you can use cryptohub.online API, this way you don't need to install CROC wallet on server.
The faucet scrypt will be ready at september
So, just to confirm.. you will be making a faucet for croc and it will be finish next month ? I'm talking about universal scrypt for faucets that will use my api. You can write your own. CROC fee is 0.001 so you can create faucet and pay directly to users wallets (without an intermediate api) Adding a faucet gives me a 500 error :s |
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It's a bit more than 20 lines though sincere Cheesy It's a bit more yes, but it is around there. This is excluding the extremely simple text-replace shit that typically happens. |
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startsts do you run this service?...
The API is not documented at all. Could you point me to some documentation?
You should sign in, go this page https://cryptohub.online/faucets/ and click "create faucet". After creating you see in the list "Install / Configure" button. It shows API key and methods to call. Actually the service was launched 2 weeks ago and there are 2 faucets both are mine. If you are going to use my API I give you 100 CROC to faucet balance  Nice. Do you mean you...integrated 2 coins into this website? I don't know what you mean by givings me CROC for the balance or whatever. Gizzard will ultimately host and I guess provide CROC to the faucet. I will put the code up on GitHub. I am open to game ideas. I would actually prefer this not be some rip-off of some shit, but instead something of novelty and quality. I am thinking something that gets harder and harder, and incorporates randomness to defend against bots. More discussion tomorrow. If you could link me to what a faucet is I'd appreciate it too. I have always seen the term but not a formal definition. |
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startsts do you run this service?...
The API is not documented at all. Could you point me to some documentation?
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Mr.Boat I'm serious. I want the CROC to actually be worth something...bills to pay, need food to eat, and maybe buy myself a little nice something. startsts I'll check it out and get to work  Expect something soon guys. Just make CROC worth something for me... |
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You sure put some effort to research and write for what you call "definite shitcoin". Makes me wonder why. And yeah, I carry DeepOnion signature. There is, objectively, nothing wrong with a shitcoin, just like there is nothing objectively wrong with a pile of shit. It's just shit... Even on the DeepOnion hype thread, I have encouraged people to hold their coins, and have said that the developer can be trusted, as they haven't added anything malicious. Is everyone with a DeepOnion signature this stunned? |
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Interactive Crypto Game - 30450 CROC
Faucet 12600 CROC Anyone keen to make a CrocodileCash game or faucet up ? I will make one but I want like $400 (probably way more) worth of CROC. How much is 30450 CROC worth at the moment? No exchange ATM for CROC so can't give you an answer on that. Community support is always a great indicator for coin acceptance  Well I'll be the first to actually use CROC. Today I declare 1 CROC = 10 USD at this very moment in time. Price of CROC is discouraged from being reduced past this point. I will accept 30450 CROC if and only if the current holders support this declaration.  I am dead serious |
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Interactive Crypto Game - 30450 CROC
Faucet 12600 CROC Anyone keen to make a CrocodileCash game or faucet up ? I will make one but I want like $400 (probably way more) worth of CROC. How much is 30450 CROC worth at the moment? |
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2. You looked at a wrong place. This is the blackcoin code you look at. Look at the commit of code from mammix2's checkin starting from Mar 31. 2015, and compare with the previous blackcoin code, do you see much similarity? (hint: the tor code were not there before, you even see some britcoin label initially)Grin
3. You made some progress, and found SuperCoin, lol, no, it is not the one that has these features first. There are other coins that have these similar features before. Anyway, have fun.
Uh no, there are tons of places where they take out "blackcoin" for "bitcoinplus". You need to add more context to what you are saying. I am aware there is "old blackcoin" and "new blackcoin". Why aren't you referring to it like that? Instead of pulling my pisser why not enlighten us with what cryptocurrency/ies SuperCoin is based on? Thanks |
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The Slimcoin version 0.5.0 is not working properly on any of my ARM boards (Raspberry Pi & Odroid XU4) even if I manage to compile it properly. It crashes randomly and my debugging skills got me as far as dumping a core and investigating the stack frames, but no useful thing came out of this.
My hunch is that it may have something to do with the boost libraries. But I may be wrong.
Run it through strace and gdb. |
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Hey Gizzard, I've finished my write-up on CrocodileCash. Unfortunately I'm not making it public (paid members only - why? because I need content for my paid subscribers ), but good news: you've made the cut. CrocodileCash is Currypto-trusted. Why? Because: 1. you are straight-up honest about it being a shitcoin. 2. you changed like 20 lines from anti-bitcoin source. Nothing malicious inserted. 3. answered my questions thoroughly. I personally would like to earn some CrocodileCash - what's the best way to earn it, rather than begging for free coins? I will take CrocodileCash as payment for those who want to join the service to read about it (and the 8 other altcoins I've written about). If I were you Gizzard, I wouldn't even touch the source - call it complete and move forward. Polish the UI from time to time. And stay honest |
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What a joke, another pretend-expert tries to give false information. I suggest you to better understand the altcoin history before give out shits like this, to fool people (and yourself). BitcoinPlus is not from BlackCoin, not at all. Let me tell you the history: BitcoinPlus is based on a coin called BritCoin, and BritCoin is based on BoostCoin. BoostCoin is the first one combining X13 and PoS, but it is not the one first with TOR integration. I'll leave you to find out which coin has the first integrated TOR. Blackcoin does not have TOR integration, instead it has blacksend which BitcoinPlus does not have. BitcoinPlus wanted to rebase on BlackCoin first, then mammix2 who is the BoostCoin dev rebased BitCoinPlus with BritCoin which itself derived from BoostCoin. Also, many features from DeepOnion are not from MammothCoin at all. 6 months before MammothCoin all these tech are used in another coin (again do your own reserach, novice!). So your diagram is completely wrong, do more research and do a better work that can give yourself a better credit. 1. Where do I claim I am an expert? 2. You are wrong here. Look at this commit: 70af2d46bfe6eecdec498c832021228efd545f99 In particular: diff --git a/COPYING b/COPYING
index 8691ab37..4563049a 100644
--- a/COPYING
+++ b/COPYING
@@ -1,7 +1,4 @@
-Copyright (c) 2014 BlackCoin Developers
-Copyright (c) 2013-2014 NovaCoin Developers
-Copyright (c) 2011-2012 PPCoin Developers
-Copyright (c) 2009-2014 Bitcoin Developers
+Copyright (c) 2014 bitcoinplus Developers
3. Nice, what is MammothCoin based off of? I couldn't find anything. I think you are hinting at SuperCoin here. |
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Solid evidence this is a frickin' copy+paste project: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096277It is all undeniable proof. All code was pulled from two projects; both of which predate DeepOnion by years. I don't know about "scam" but it sure is an undeniable shitcoin. I mention in my article that maybe that's what people want...They want shit....  |
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Fuck man...Nice job. Feel free to link my article there too. There are so many defenders of this it is unbelievable. All in it to make quick money, very little true believers of cryptocurrency and what it really means. |
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Shit just got real; crypto-rainbow has deleted all my posts in his self-moderated thread! I will paste them below: Guys...hold onto your DeepOnion, but not for long. Some bad news coming up in the near future unfortunately.
I thought DeepOnion was the creation of hard-at-work developers. It's not. I have the exact commit DeepOnion was forked from, and the exact changes they've done, and even where they've pulled other code from. Sad I've spent about 7 hours investigating this, and although a pain...I think some people will thank me.
Obviously there is HUGE momentum right now for this rebrand-coin, and that's all people care about. And I don't expect it to stop even with evidence it's a rebrand-coin/make-me-money-coin, lol.
I retract my "keep up the good work". They are piggy-backing off of other's work so heavily.
Quote from: lijoe408 on Today at 03:23:12 AM
Interesting. When do you plan on releasing this info? I remember the dev team said before that they took parts of several different projects and added their own piece. Is it really a bad thing?
Very soon, probably tomorrow. I am STILL working on it, just so I have covered my bases...I swear I will provide evidence and not just empty claims. Note I say hold onto your DeepOnion; I am not encouraging to sell. I think pure momentum alone will keep this coin pumping.
Uh, from the looks of it, they forked from Bitcoinplus (which the dev, crypto-rainbow, refused to tell me. This is an absolute I have figured out.), and taken code from Peercoin (ProofOfWorkReward, ProofOfStakeReward).
And that's it. There is nothing else. So for this guy's question...
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This is not first clone coins, and not the first developer who fork a code from a public source. whats the big deal? for as long the developer can improve the code base and add new feature it will always end up unique.
They didn't improve anything, nor add any features. The Tor functionality, and ProofOfWork/Stake were already present in BitcoinPlus. They didn't add anything except their branding.
Essentially you are saying if I copy DeepOnion, rebrand it as "Vault", and say it will have a whole list of features that DeepOnion already had, you would invest in it?
Then damn, I better get busy (kidding).
Quote from: dfox101 on Today at 04:25:11 AM Quote from: currypto on Today at 03:36:16 AM Quote from: lijoe408 on Today at 03:23:12 AM Interesting. When do you plan on releasing this info? I remember the dev team said before that they took parts of several different projects and added their own piece. Is it really a bad thing? Very soon, probably tomorrow. I am STILL working on it, just so I have covered my bases...I swear I will provide evidence and not just empty claims. Note I say hold onto your DeepOnion; I am not encouraging to sell. I think pure momentum alone will keep this coin pumping. Uh, from the looks of it, they forked from Bitcoinplus (which the dev, crypto-rainbow, refused to tell me. This is an absolute I have figured out.), and taken code from Peercoin (ProofOfWorkReward, ProofOfStakeReward). And that's it. There is nothing else. So for this guy's question... This is not first clone coins, and not the first developer who fork a code from a public source. whats the big deal? for as long the developer can improve the code base and add new feature it will always end up unique. They didn't improve anything, nor add any features. The Tor functionality, and ProofOfWork/Stake were already present in BitcoinPlus. They didn't add anything except their branding. Essentially you are saying if I copy DeepOnion, rebrand it as "Vault", and say it will have a whole list of features that DeepOnion already had, you would invest in it? Then damn, I better get busy (kidding). I think you have very short-memories. See below the dev replied to your questions. He told you BitcoinPlus is one that they base. From your email, it seems you only understand some surface thing. The pow/pos independent retarget algo come from where? do you find it in BitcoinPlus? The table-based pow/pos height ciomputation comes from where? do you find it in any other coins? Man do a diff, and you'll find that there a lot things you don't understand in this coin. Don't pretend to be an expert, from what you posted, it is clearly not. from: crypto-rainbow on August 14, 2017, 07:58:57 PM 1. Is DeepOnion based off of another coin codebase? >> The codebase of DeepOnion is from the tor integration coins such as KoreCoin/BitcoinPlus and others (there are a few variations of that). 2. If it is, which commit? >> There's no commit from any other coin. All coins are open source. We maintain our own codebase. In fact our codebase are different from any existing coins (not only on parameters, evidently, there are a lot of details, like separation of PoW/PoS etc.). We will release other nice features and services in the future. 3. So DeepOnion nodes operator over Tor. Doesn't this mean IPs are somewhat visible, since we are connecting to each other, rather than a service? >> No. You access Tor network through edge nodes, not through each other's nodes. This allow us a network level protection for our users. 4. So wouldn't it be possible to know who is running DeepOnion nodes via peerlist? Or is every DeepOnion node a hidden service? >> Please read Tor introductions. The edge nodes are known, not inside though. 5. Is there legitimate proof or way to prove no premining has occurred? >> There is premine, and it is stated very clearly in OP, for the purpose, distribution etc. We maintain the logs at this URL: https://deeponion.org/report.php?date=2017-08-11Different airdrop days can be chosen from the link above. We will release more stats in the future. 6. When was this coin actually started? It was released in July (12th-ish) but I would like to know when it actually began development. >> The development started a few months earlier by the dev team. Initial idea came about 3 years ago. 7. Does DeepOnion support re-producible builds? If I build DeepOnion from source, will the binary be 1-for-1 with what you have released (considering I build from the same release version, of course). >> Of course, it is open source. Many people built their own client. We support open source and we believe the privacy is a fundamental human right! 8. Why create DeepOnion, instead of setting up a Bitcoin node behind Tor? >> Bitcoin is a big community, its development is slow and has many limitations (the recent Aug 1 event is just an example). We create DeepOnion to explore different path to build a secure and untraceable coin. There are many techniques where bitcoin is just too big to explore. All right, the defenders are coming out! This is good, and exactly what I aim for. Now we can get somewhere - thank you for actually adding to the conversation. 1. Yes, I did see exactly what he said, and those two coins are where I started. He did not specify which coin he started from. I asked him (both in this thread, and PM - no response). Nor did he specify the commit. I was able to deduce both of these things from comparing 4 different cryptocurrencies, as well as looking at the ancestry of a few to see what's going on here. 2. I'm working on where the PoW/PoS changes have come from. 3. I am in fact working from a diff - good detective work there! You'll be able to see exactly what I'm looking at soon enough Smiley Thanks again Why he has to answer each of your question? who are you?? does he has to answer any of the trivial questions by anyone who may or may not understand the code? He answered enough to your curiosity, and instead of being thankful, you started to attack the coin.
If you know what you are doing, it's probably ok, from what you posted, you don't. I'll give you a hint, all altcoins are from a few branches, initially most from litecoin, then PoS coins are all based PPCoin/NovaCoin. Then there are a few important improvements such as complete separation of the diff retarget between PoW/PoS (earlier pow/pos coins and many now are coupled, and cause big issues), true randomness, tor integration, messaging, then there are masternodes etc. So find the branch that has the features you look for.
Looks like you pretty new in this domain, so learn and don't pretend.
1. He doesn't, but he did! 2. I'm just another person on the Internet honestly. No one special. 3. How am I "attacking" the coin, when I am encouraging holding, and even say the developer can be trusted? 4. No shit they are all mostly based off of a few coin codebases. Just look at this: mapofcoins.com/bitcoin. Like you said, it's about the improvements...But there are no improvements here. Your assumptions are terribly wrong. Excuse the whole mess. |
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