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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitBar New POW-POS scrypt CryptoCoin on: May 08, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
It would be very interesting to see how the BitBars are traded if/when they hit an
automated exchange.  

And especially what the initial offer will be...

Actually that would make a good bet..


What will the initial Bid/Ask be??




I think it will open at 2 BTC+ initially. Then again maybe even higher, FTC and CHN opened at way higher rates than I expected.

Initially somewhere between 1-2BTB, probably not for long though.

I wonder how many crypto's are holding BitBars and not communicating for fear of ridicule.
I can understand the hesitation in voicing an opinion; there are some strong characters on Bitcointalk  Cheesy




Probably the altcoin equivalent of saying you own a scooter while with your motorcycle club at this point.

I don't care though, I got a nice big shiny pink one with white racing stripes.  :p  It will be neat if this turns into something...if not...I lost a few days of mining...big whoop.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]New Crypto-Currency BAR!! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: May 08, 2013, 12:43:57 AM
I rather put my energy on bter.com than his project.

The site is so unprofessional, and i doubt the exchange will be any good either. Keep to what works.

From the response that I received from bter.com and that others have received, it looks like that will be happening sooner rather than later. Smiley
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Combine great ideas or innovate, everything else is just a scam. on: May 08, 2013, 12:35:43 AM
That's why I'm a fan of BitBar... it does bring something new to the table through its combination of ideas. On the surface it doesn't win points in terms of innovation, no (Unless you count the 'bar' aspect - which I think was a smart play from a psychological perspective). It's better than a relabeled client with only the amount of coins changed. I think it potentially has some staying power.


+1

It's the only coin I'm currently mining.  Though, I have to admit a block reward of .13 just seems weird when all the others are much higher.

Consider that there are only 2700-something in existence, however, and the block reward makes more sense.

I totally understand there is a low amount of coins in existence.  It's just feels weird.  I guess I've been 'conditioned' to get more of a reward per block.  If it makes it to an exchange it will be interesting to see people paying .01 per BTC (an example not stating the future price of BTB).

Yes, totally makes sense. That was one of the reasons CTC and FTC did so well. They 1) got coins in the hands of more people (who had an interest and a reason in pumping them up) and 2) had a much larger float. Seeing 1242 CNC in your wallet is much more psychologically satisfying than seeing 2.22 bars, although at current market values they're the same amount of bitcoin.
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Combine great ideas or innovate, everything else is just a scam. on: May 08, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
That's why I'm a fan of BitBar... it does bring something new to the table through its combination of ideas. On the surface it doesn't win points in terms of innovation, no (Unless you count the 'bar' aspect - which I think was a smart play from a psychological perspective). It's better than a relabeled client with only the amount of coins changed. I think it potentially has some staying power.


I am inclined to agree with you here, but ultimately it doesn't matter since FTC had an incredibly successful launch and BTB's was a trainwreck.

That's not to say that the coin may just take a longer while to mature. FTC produced a LOT of coins its first few days... many more people had a reason to support it right out of the gate. Bitbar, not so much. However, the network hash rate has been growing steadily and it is making progress on getting on an exchange. It could be one of those "slow and steady" kinds of coins.

I've seen the price of it drop a bit these last few days, but there have been more on the forums that have come out in support of it lately, with the folks against it more in the background. An interesting trend.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Combine great ideas or innovate, everything else is just a scam. on: May 08, 2013, 12:23:33 AM
That's why I'm a fan of BitBar... it does bring something new to the table through its combination of ideas. On the surface it doesn't win points in terms of innovation, no (Unless you count the 'bar' aspect - which I think was a smart play from a psychological perspective). It's better than a relabeled client with only the amount of coins changed. I think it potentially has some staying power.


+1

It's the only coin I'm currently mining.  Though, I have to admit a block reward of .13 just seems weird when all the others are much higher.

Consider that there are only 2700-something in existence, however, and the block reward makes more sense.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitBar New POW-POS scrypt CryptoCoin on: May 08, 2013, 12:22:27 AM
Network hash rate over 600MH! (or soon to be, now that I'm adding 10MH in...was over in litecoin land)

http://www.bitbar.info/stats/index.php
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitBar New POW-POS scrypt CryptoCoin on: May 07, 2013, 03:02:13 AM
I pinged bter.com about bitbar, here's the response I got:


Hi,

Very interesting to us. We are going to learn more about it and watch people's talk in the community.
We are going to support it if plenty number of people would like to accept it.

Best,
Bter
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Creation of more alt coins on: May 07, 2013, 02:47:19 AM
Well my main purpose is to show that those alt coins out there that whatever characteristics they have, it is so easily copied. (is it?)

aka you want a faster transaction coin --- just allow a higher rate of blocks

                       you want a rarer coin ---  reduce the block reward

                         you want demurrage --- create it with demurrage

 

Whatever digital characteristic you want, one can just copy them easily.

Ultimately what will set these coins apart is not their digital characteristics, i believe it is the real world application.

                      

Real world application of a currency depends largely on its use and acceptance in the real world as a medium of exchange. Most all the altcoins (except for Litecoin) so far have been more about higher profit portals to BTC for the initial lucky few, as they are not accepted anywhere for goods and services. I don't see how creating 1 new altcoin a day would solve that.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's with value of Alts today? on: May 07, 2013, 02:42:55 AM
Mincoin actually rose 50% today in comparison to the other altcoins. Likely due to the low inflation of the coin (only 2800 mined a day).

http://www.mcxnow.com/exchange/MNC

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=2-days&resolution=hour&pair=mnc-btc&market=mcxnow

The problem with all of this is that many of these altcoins have such low trading volume on the exchanges that it doesn't matter. If you were to mine a lot of them, good luck getting rid of more than 1 or 2 BTC worth of them without clearing out the buy book all the way down.
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Creation of more alt coins on: May 07, 2013, 02:37:54 AM
Hey everyone,


Just wondering, how much work does it take to create a new cryptocurrency?




If anyone is interested we could release a new coin everyday, naming the coin after the day itself.

INSANE PROFIT for everyone involved. We can give a different forum member rights to premine the hell out of it for each coin. Coinchoose.com will be 5 pages long.
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [TESTING] BitBar PushPool btb.binarycoins.eu [solved] on: May 07, 2013, 02:32:53 AM
Hash rate ~160MH (after I join back up). I think this is the highest it's been on this pool!

Network hash rate looks to be ~540MH currently (http://www.bitbar.info/stats/index.php)
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
only changed some names, the paths and .ico files to yacoin  Tongue

He's just keeping us thinking something is happening... recursive search/replace takes a few minutes.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
A three-way

Yay!! Although I may not have at least one of them anymore given how much damn time I've spent on these forums chasing these freaking altcoins in the past week. Smiley
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
Is there a pool where I can mine?

You have to read every post in this topic to get private access to the pool

But only users with +10 gifs in this thread get access to the source and the pool.

*Users with a gf get access

sooo, no one in this thread....

what about me? im a chick!

Have you a GF?

nope, im straight xD

So no access for you  Tongue

thats sexist! xD

Sexist? He clearly said: Users with a gf get access. Do you have a GF? No.

I have 2. What do I get?
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [GIVEAWAY]FREE BitBar! 0.01 BTB per Person on: May 06, 2013, 09:30:01 PM


BK4fdm6Ci3r7qHwz9dbCKyLm8pSL3Q65sG        Wink

Give the guy .05 for that! Cheesy
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
Except if you mined this, you'd have...Novacoin.



ROFL!! Well...at least it may not be premined this time around.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
just do it guys.. this would be a new coin that came out of a joke... or before the creator intended.. please upload :d

Except if you mined this, you'd have...Novacoin.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:15:43 PM
Too damn funny! If this is a trolling attempt, it was a great one, and someone needs to release a YACoin anyhow (except name it something better).
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 06, 2013, 09:12:02 PM
i'm new, and not a programmer..

but i'm assuming the people that are mining now have compiled this https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin

how do we do this to get it to work on windows... 95% of people here don't have those skills Smiley

or is the current chain going to be deleted,,,

or are people actually lying...


confused.. and upset

Thats the old code...updated code not released yet.
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitBar New POW-POS scrypt CryptoCoin on: May 06, 2013, 06:58:19 PM
TL;DR


Is there a bitbar pool out there? What's the current difficulty?

Thanks

And of course the nethash page of the explorer API


http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar/q/nethash

How do I read that exactly? I notice for the most recent block in the list, it's showing 143639548 ...so 143MH/s ... that differs from the figure shown on the other stats page, so I assume I'm reading it incorrectly.

I think he needs to alter algorithm for ppc based coin. The binarycoins pool alone has 100 MH/s. My estimate of hash rate is more in line with the difficulty I believe.

Yes, a large difference between the two numbers. I would be curious to find out what it is. There is the pool you mentioned with 100MH... and I am solomining around 20MH right now, so I would assume the real number would be a good deal higher than 143MH.

Definitely matters as the network hash rate (and especially the movement in it, up or down) is obviously a good indicator of the viability of a new coin.
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