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61  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 15, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
Did you even bother to read Chinese laws?

500 pages is not far away, keep up the good work guys!

Compared to 24 hours ago, the silence over the last hours suggests that our beloved bears are done.


The silence over the past few hours suggests that the ActM cheer-leading squad has taken a break from Labcoin, probably due to the fact that they have issues with their own share price - currently down to the IPO level on BTCT.

In the last 90 pages, 90% of the posts were posted by the heavily invested ActM FUDsters.

To be honest, I expected some teething issues and I'm not surprised, given that they did not test the PCB's before ordering them:

- PCB/Components for miners are expected to arrive shortly (a few days) after chips. To speed up miner production the PCB has not been tested prior to order but thorough simulations have been ran and Labcoin does not expect any issues with the PCB. SHOULD a problem arise Labcoin expects less than 1 week until new PCB can be produced, so even a worst case scenario has functioning PCB in-hand in about 2 weeks.

These types of issues occur and I'm confident that they will be ironed out shortly.

At the end of the day, for every share that was sold there was a buyer.   Cheesy

Edit: Typo



If Its PCB design issue, then labcoin was lying blatantly when he said they had begun hashing at 2TH and everything is fine. I don't think they will be so stupid that they risk their credibility  to cover a error can be easily fixed in 1 week

More likely it was a issue out of their expectation. For example, The board worked well for a while and then malfunctioned due to heat or the software does not scale to large number of chips.

Anyway, could we try to guess, if labcoin never lies, what's the possible situation now? They are indeed hashing, but is not stable. They can only provide a mining address couple of days later but not now. They cannot provide photos without further confusing investors.

For me, the only plausible explanation is they don't have full control of their assembly and mining partners. All they have in hand are some sample chips and boards. Their parter in China refuse giving any photos taken in their side, and their reason or excuse may be  they don't want disclose any evidence that they are involved in this project, since illegal IPO may lead to death penalty in China.
62  Economy / Securities / Re: ActiveMining Overview and Speculation Thread on: September 14, 2013, 09:05:06 PM
Please forgive my rudeness.

But pankkake can you share with us which two?

pankkake, just out of curiosity, which mining companies do you feel are wise investments?
I really don't feel like recommending mining companies and will obviously be accused to "pump" them anyway. So far all new companies seem to want gullible investor "this is the next AsicMiner" money to have zero risk themselves; I think the new successful ones won't be publicly funded.

I am still invested in two but certainly do not plan to invest more.
63  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 12, 2013, 08:23:56 PM
I'm in, again.
64  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 12, 2013, 06:02:06 PM
Yes, and I believe there will be another one.

I will even sell btcQuick to buy this at the price 0.001 ~ 0.0015 on bitfunder.

I am waiting for another crash and buy back Wink

you don't consider this a crash?
65  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 12, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
I am waiting for another crash and buy back Wink
66  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 12, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
The best I've seen so far.

I figured that I would take a crack at this.


67  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 10, 2013, 06:14:47 PM
Or ActiveMining doesn't need a website, like Asicminer.

For the design I see right now, I think it's better not to have one...
68  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 10, 2013, 05:55:32 PM
+1

Advisory board, please try to nudge Ken towards getting a legitimate marketing director.  I just showed this image to my cubicle mate, and his response was, "What the fuck is that.  A cyber asshole?" Seriously, the current artwork looks like it was done by a 14 year old who just pirated is first copy of photoshop.  The logo also looks like ass compared to what hazryder was offering.


69  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 10, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
How many shares have been sold on bitfunder.com and btct.co already? 10 million?

Thanks for the update ffs69.

I am a little confused here. If I invest ActiveMining now which is below 0.0025 on bitfunder.com, will I get 0.0025 on dividend return eventually? (If everything is going as planned of course.)

There are 25 million shares. 10 million shares receive the profits until each share has received 0.0025 BTC. After that, profits are split 25 million ways instead of 10 million ways.

So yes you'll get that back if you hold the shares for the time period required (and the profit allows of course).
70  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 10, 2013, 03:59:48 PM
Thanks for the update ffs69.

I am a little confused here. If I invest ActiveMining now which is below 0.0025 on bitfunder.com, will I get 0.0025 on dividend return eventually? (If everything is going as planned of course.)

In other words, some of that 0.025 has already been paid out, so how much is left per share?

I think basically 0.00249xxxxx!

The price will bounce around with news (PR would be helpful here for sure) but they are certainly inherently worth the original asking price given that the eASIC deal has been confirmed.

71  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: September 10, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
Because everybody thinks he can sell with a profit before everybody else...

Because hashrate of AsicMiner is increasing and every share gets more hashing power over time.
With 100TH (now 200TH) bitcoin mine you get 400MH/s for every share and that is it.

Let me explain really simple.
You buy 1 share of 100TH mine for 0.2BTC.
In 1 month your 1 share have produced 0.05BTC.
But price of share has dropped to 0.1BTC.
Another months passes your earned additional 0.03 for total 0.08BTC, but
share price has dropped to 0.05BTC and is now worth 0.05BTC.
Total earned 0.08BTC with share price at 0.05.
Or 0.2BTC invested 0.13 returned.

Known since before 2012 as "the problem with PMBs."

I still don't see why people are buying any form of PMB! or even when buying hosted hardware is cheaper.
72  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特币投资实证 on: September 09, 2013, 12:25:56 PM
谢谢你的帖子,对我的帮助非常大。

做个基金,It's cool .赚钱又赚名声。我努力使自己有这个能力,但目前还不具备。
而且我不喜欢被束缚的感觉,管理别人的钱会受束缚,业绩的压力,资金安全,等等。每天早上起来好像都有一个声音告诉你有责任在身,多累!
我不为别人工作,只为自己而工作,随心所欲,自由自在的去实现我的梦想。
四百多个币的本金,足矣。

73  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bit Funder] [btcquick] [Rising profits] on: September 09, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
I kind of like to see more early investors to bring the price down to 0.0004 (so I can pick up more cheap shares).

It's a little overpriced right now compare to the dividend/share price ratio of asicminer.



Even without more investor attention just following dividend/growth chart we should have share price around 2x current share price within 2 weeks. Feels good to be diversified into BTCquick..

This company has so much room to grow, and on top of that, the stock should benefit over the next few months as mining ROI decreases and some of those investors look for a new place to park their BTC.

I will prob go as far as saying that the only reason that the shares are so far under 0.001 is the massive growth of profit and revenue has allowed a lot of very early investors to sell off at very nice profits. Once the early owners have taken home some profit, we should see a real valuation upgrade. If you look at he charts its fairly apparent that the valuation is moving in "steps" where old investors take home some profit, new owners buy and then it keeps moving up. Imho, a very good sign for continued value increase over time.
74  Economy / Securities / Re: Activemining on Bitfunder.com on: September 09, 2013, 12:21:10 AM
*months

But it's a profit anyway.

We proved Activemining is legit, buying at IPO price again is a sure profit in a couple of days.
75  Economy / Securities / Re: Activemining on Bitfunder.com on: September 08, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
But I still don't understand why people will want to sell below 0.0025.

I thought 0.0025 is a sure dividend return?

InactiveMining noobvestors are getting desperate. Fun times ahead.
76  Local / 挖矿 / Re: 烤猫静悄悄地跌到2btc了 on: September 08, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
你说的没错,但那个时候的价格显然是高估了,出掉好现在抄底嘛 Grin

您当时对 AM 的分析我觉得很有道理,我在这里贴一下,希望不要介意。。。

Keven:
我们现在说的是如何给AM估值.
你说的这些我只看到一句是跟估值比较相关的:"现实世界里的股价,都是市盈率几十倍的,烤猫离这个还太远"
很多人会有跟你一样的想法,我觉得很有必要来讨论下.
A股平均市盈率18倍(没去看瞎猜的),与之对应的公司债市盈率16.7倍(按6%年息换算).投资者为什么给股票18倍,是对比了其它投资渠道的收益后的结果.
再来看比特币证券市场,债券Great.Loan市盈率5倍(按年复利20%算).对比这样的债券,你还坚持AM也应该几十倍的市盈率吗?

基于以上的认识,我才敢说10BTC的AM都是扯蛋,更不要说20BTC了.


李笑来在说这个话的时候已经全部出掉了。

一眨眼烤猫已经跌到2BTC了,不知道5B的价位接盘的人有啥感言,不知道当初的豪言壮志何时才能兑现了。


Quote from: lixiaolai on July 06, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
谢谢你的分析。

不过,这个分析,还是禁锢在传统金融知识里面了。

等它涨到20BTC的时候,我再说说我是怎么分析AM股票的吧。

我不认为那时他会出掉。他强烈看好AM还会涨,却出掉了?我觉得他不是那种是口是心非的人。
5B到2BTC应该是一个不断加仓的过程,这才合乎逻辑。如果我看好一支股票一定会这么做。所以现在他应该是重仓AM
77  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: September 08, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
Stolen designs....  Grin



JimmyJazz, good ideas. +1


But if this really is a 1718% markup business ($1.50 per Gh), this party can not last for long.
How soon can we expect cheap chinese copies (stolen designs) to hit the market?
Next 6 month's are going to be interesting.

78  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特币投资实证 on: September 08, 2013, 10:50:59 AM
谢谢你的回答 Smiley

请问 001sonkit,你现在这样做每月可以得到多少B呢?
根據你在BTalk貼文量而定,不同收購者有不同價格
現在我知道有辦收購的有Bit777,TradeFortress,BTC.sx 有0.02到0.4不等,視乎帖量。我的帖量能收0.18每月


看到老五的更新,感覺他能找Bitfunder開一個基金上市了 Tongue (給錢你託管的朋友一定開心了)
79  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特币投资实证 on: September 07, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
请问 001sonkit,你现在这样做每月可以得到多少B呢?
80  Local / 挖矿 / Re: 烤猫静悄悄地跌到2btc了 on: September 07, 2013, 05:26:25 PM
李笑来在说这个话的时候已经全部出掉了。

一眨眼烤猫已经跌到2BTC了,不知道5B的价位接盘的人有啥感言,不知道当初的豪言壮志何时才能兑现了。


Quote from: lixiaolai on July 06, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
谢谢你的分析。

不过,这个分析,还是禁锢在传统金融知识里面了。

等它涨到20BTC的时候,我再说说我是怎么分析AM股票的吧。

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