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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How high will Litecoin go? on: July 14, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
Honestly don't see LTC appreciating very long after the August 1 deadline. Likely scenario is fud will die once everything comes together smoothly, and LTC's role as apocalypse currency diminishes significantly. Expect at least a sustained price until Aug 1 followed by a crash.

Litecoin will stay much much faster than Bitcoin with New stuff coming soon. There is no crash to come.
142  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legit bitcoin mining company on: July 14, 2017, 02:22:58 AM
The real deal is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1914900.0

But you have to go full, as it is real. So there is no small investment. It's one miner minimum and the tokens to go with it.
That's a Legit Mining Company who is opening is door to miners from around the world.

https://giga-watt.com/
https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 13, 2017, 06:42:41 PM


Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC)



Litecoin (LTC)

This is a legal coin with a great future. It Will be above $100 by the end of the year 2017.


 
Grin
$7.5

I <3 Litecoin
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 13, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
Pre-Sales by the numbers:

Total sale____________________ __20,000.05 eth
Participants____________________1430
Average_____________________ __12.9 eth
Maximum_____________________ _250 eth
Minimum_______________________0.0005 eth
Total unique rejected_____________16247.81 eth ($3.2m)
No. unique addresses rejected_____1049
Avg. payment_________________ __15.4 eth
Total Rejection________________ __2605 eth
Gas Rejection___________________145 eth


Get Ready for Saturday
On saturday,they will make available to the public 528 million tokens at a price that will be published on their web site in the afternoon European time.
145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 13, 2017, 03:20:31 PM
Syscoin from $0,23 the 20th june to $0,08 Today. OUCH !! Hard fall.
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 13, 2017, 12:20:26 PM
If I buy 880 WTT (current cost $968) that will give me ownership of 1 litecoin miner capacity, right?
But I have to buy the rig on top and realize $968 in energy savings for return on investment, not considering what income is made from mining. Is that correct?

If I don't buy any mining equipment from the "PARTNER" what is the value other than speculating the token price goes up?

Thanks.
NO. That gives you nothing else than the tokens, that is all. Now you can rent your tokens if you want. But you don't own anything else than the tokens.

If you have 880 WTT you can rent them to a person who brought the miner but who have not enough tokens.
If you have both token and miner great you can mine 100% for yourself.

What is difficult to understand ?
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 13, 2017, 11:48:41 AM
No I just try to help you man. I am Not associate with nobody.

ICO Special Review: Giga Watt Mining Token. Is this ICO right for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8GdmY_OymQ
148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 13, 2017, 11:45:29 AM
Hi I am looking to invest in upcoming ICOs, I have general questions about WTT though. Can you reply without boilerplate white paper response, please?

First, Giga Watt facilities have 2.25 MW of capacity (0.75 MW more under construction), correct? Why are you issuing 34.5 MWs of tokens?
Second, why do I need WTT token when I have to buy the mining rigs on top? This seems like immediate lump-sum payout to Giga Watt in exchange for maybe/maybe-not long term savings on energy costs.
Is that correct?

If I'm not interested in mining, then what value is there other than trading the tokens and speculating on them?

Thanks.

Ok but have you at least been on the Cryptomonos website or even the giga watt website lol

https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/
https://giga-watt.com/

And on top of that you want answers about things you are not interested in ?
Everything is explained on the website. Easy to understand.

You can rent those tokens to the miners if you don't want to invest in mining equipment.

I'm not sure why you think I'm not interested in mining? The first question I asked about was mining. But it's important to know what the incentive is for all stakeholders.
And yes, I went to the websites and read the whitepaper already. I may feel it wasn't explained enough and want more clarity.

If I'm interested in mining, why not just buy the equipment and host at Giga Watt facilities without messing around with the tokens?
It's because you pay Giga Watt upfront to realize energy savings over time, right? If that's wrong, then please explain.

If I'm not interested in mining, and I buy the WTT tokens but no equipment. OK I saw where you can rent out the tokens, but this is just euphemism for speculation, right?

And why 34.5 MW capacity issued when Giga Watt only has 3MW capacity?

Thanks.

Sorry I have no time to go through it all. And also if I miss understood you. There is videos from Giga watt who may help you understand  the all concept.

Dave Carlson at Consensus 2017. Mining for Dummies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0getvVRkTE

Intro to Giga Pod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VYksAS2N1k

And part of the money from the tokens goes for the pods constructions. That is why you have the tokens for 50 years. Those pods have 50 years life time.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't invest your money in Ico on: July 13, 2017, 11:27:26 AM
Kinda they are not, could someone tell me one ICO during the last time where you actually made some money by investing in it?
Veritaseum.
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 13, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
Hi I am looking to invest in upcoming ICOs, I have general questions about WTT though. Can you reply without boilerplate white paper response, please?

First, Giga Watt facilities have 2.25 MW of capacity (0.75 MW more under construction), correct? Why are you issuing 34.5 MWs of tokens?
Second, why do I need WTT token when I have to buy the mining rigs on top? This seems like immediate lump-sum payout to Giga Watt in exchange for maybe/maybe-not long term savings on energy costs.
Is that correct?

If I'm not interested in mining, then what value is there other than trading the tokens and speculating on them?

Thanks.

Ok but have you at least been on the Cryptomonos website or even the giga watt website lol

https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/
https://giga-watt.com/

And on top of that you want answers about things you are not interested in ?
Everything is explained on the website. Easy to understand.

You can rent those tokens to the miners if you don't want to invest in mining equipment.
151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 12, 2017, 08:36:48 PM
Ok thanks.

Was it a smart contract or the terrible "get in line" system like Civic?
It went all good for me. 1 transaction fast no problem.
152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 12, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
Can somebody tell me how much the pre-ico was in terms of pillar token per eth, etc etc
One Pillar token costs 0.0005 ETH

10 tokens will cost 0.005 ETH
For each ten tokens you buy, you will get one more bonus token added to your total. So ...

1 ETH buys 2,000 tokens + you get 200 bonus tokens (gas charge not included)
10 ETH buys 20,000 tokens + you get 2,000 bonus tokens (gas charge not included)

The minimum purchase is 1 token.
There is a maximum of 250 ether.
153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 12, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
Actually Litecoin look stronger than most of the Alt Coins...
Haha it does stronger than other altcoins because it was a good copy cat and does things which bitcoin can not do. I believe that litecoin price will drop if the segwit2x succeed. People will return their money to bitcoin. Or, maybe, both litecoin and bitcoin will increase their price. Who knows

What do you know about SegWit2x ? succeed LOL

Here is what Devs thinks about your SegWit2x Joke - I don't think it will succeed. Sorry.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support
154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 12, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
Guys.
You can try as hard as you can/want. And maybe you are right, who knows...?

But you will never ever make me change my Bitcoin for Ripple.
155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't invest your money in Ico on: July 12, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
Yeaaaaaah buuut... Still I was/am very happy to have brought some Veritaseum 2 month ago at ICO price. Around $5,5 at the time of the ICO.
Well in reality not really $5,50 coz I brought my ETH at $8.

God Bless the ICO's  Grin
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 12, 2017, 06:04:50 PM

This is a Huge news. LTC is going to fly.
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 12, 2017, 06:01:23 PM
also become the mail. I hope it's not a fake mail

it's over now
Yep it is over but be careful guys there is a lot of scammers. $4 million raised in less than 40 minutes for the pre sale who was suppose to last until friday.
The ICO sale is going to be fast.
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 12, 2017, 03:59:55 PM
Litecoin (LTC)   $45.53  (+1.41%)

Great coin with a great future. I Love this Coin.
If you buy on this price you will cry cry cry.


Litecoin (LTC)   $48.37  (+4.91%)

You said ?  Roll Eyes

Actually Litecoin look stronger than most of the Alt Coins...
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 12, 2017, 11:47:16 AM

That may help ?

In March 2013, the U.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Network issues a new set of guidelines on "de-centralized virtual currency", clearly targeting Bitcoin. Under the new guidelines, "a user of virtual currency is not a Money Services Businesses (MSB) under FinCEN's regulations and therefore is not subject to MSB registration, reporting, and record keeping regulations." Miners, when mining bitcoins for their own personal use, aren't required to register as a MSB or Money Transmitter.

In general, there are a number of currencies in existence that are not official government-backed currencies. A currency is, after all, nothing more than a convenient unit of account. While national laws may vary from country to country, and you should certainly check the laws of your jurisdiction, in general trading in any commodity, including digital currency like Bitcoin, BerkShares, game currencies like WoW gold, or Linden dollars, is not illegal.

Source: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths#cite_note-3

Now as I understood they are not mining for us. We are mining in a way via cloud mining. We own the miner, we own the GW token to get the electricity, we pay the fees, we choose the pool, the coin to mine, even if we want the miner on or off, everything is done by us except maintenance ...via a software. They only host and service our miner technically. No ?

I don't really know if it works like this. I just try to understand.



Well this does help a little bit (shocking that they were not able to provide that info yet)  but I was talking about a simple business venture. That you do not need a Money Transmitter License as a miner is right, but you still use your own hardware to produce a good. Even if it is not considered legal tender. See it as a chair. If you are a woodsman and you use your tools and wood to create a chair, this is a finished product worth X.  And therefore you need to pay Tax on the amount of X which will be Y.    If someone does not do that (and mining is nothing else) they will evade taxable income and GIGA is helping with that.


Look at Mossack Fonseca. They were charged in Panama with helping others to do tax evasion. Why would the IRS stop before GIGA. They still need to make sure they can identify all their customers equipment. If they can't do this simple thing, they are in trouble. Worst case the get shut down or sued such a high amount they need to and your shit is offline and gone for so long that by the time you will get it back (maybe) its not profitable.




I am kinda worried that everyone here, wants to mine, but has no idea what tax problems they might getting into if not done correctly. And GIGA did not make a lot of effort to clarify how they will conduct business in such a case. Everybody can have tokens they are anonymous and everyone can use false credentials or offshore companies or something else they might need to check. How do they do it, what are their measurements to prevent a lawsuit with some foreign entity?


I personally would love to place a lot of my miners their, but I need to make sure first if THEY know what THEIR duty is to prevent me from loosing money.

I see your points. And I understand your worries. I will keep looking for more infos.
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sorry me, but it Very important information about litecoin (LTC) on: July 12, 2017, 09:02:24 AM
Litecoin (LTC)   $45.53   (+1.41%)

Great coin with a great future. I Love this Coin.
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