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21  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail (not today or tomorrow) on: December 05, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
I don't understand what that has to do with my statement? How is it the IRS knows, an audit? I never turn bitcoin into USD, how would they audit my bitcoins?

If you never turn bitcoin into USD, how do you pay your rent?

Well what if his landlord accepts the btc directly and also never reports his income. The transaction would never be recorded. (Of course the same with case Cheesy) Theres a reason those chinese restaurants like cash (and its not just because of the lack of credit card fees).
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Manipulation of price by selling from your wallet into another wallet of yours? on: December 05, 2013, 08:16:16 PM
Well something I thought about was what if you put in very large buy or sell orders at a certain point. It might make people feel like the price will rise (if you do a buy order) and you can sell for the higher level. If it actually gets too close to your "fake wall" you could cancel the buy. idk just somethign I was wondering about.
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Performed a chargeback with my Visa Provider on: December 05, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
Recently it has come to my attention that BTC supports 2 factor transactions as of BIP 38.
This looks like a great way to get around this problem. Smiley
http://www.bit2factor.org/

I think I remember reading something about a 3 party implementation too with the third party as arbitor, except they can't run off with the money. Smiley
Seems like we'll be fine. Best thing about bitcoin. We can always upgrade the protocol!!!
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: If I wanted to be BORED to death I would just invest in the stock market on: December 05, 2013, 08:00:18 PM
Lol Smiley. I KNOW. Its only jumping up and down 30% day to day now. So boring Sad. You know what, lets go play the lottery or gamble instead. It'll be more exciting L).
25  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Chart] Anatomy of a "protective" trade. on: December 05, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
Personally, I don't think its hard to predict the long term movement at least for the next while. I think it'll go up (eventually). Therefore my plan would be by a lot at the start and hold. I think it would be better than buying over time.
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: So did China ask all banks not to invest in Bitcoins or only their central bank? on: December 05, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
Yes, that was half the point of my post. I did not use the word "ban" except to complain about it. Other than that, does anyone actually know what they actually said?
27  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Chart] Anatomy of a "protective" trade. on: December 05, 2013, 05:21:44 PM
OK, actually doing a protective trade is putting in stop loss orders ....

You buy at 1190 while almost simultaneously putting in a stop loss order to sell if price goes under 1180. If you missed the bottom, too bad, you lost 10 bucks. But you can't lose more than that.

Of course, this is still an annoying trade to try to get get right because you'll miss the bottom half the time and lose small ammounts of money often.
28  Economy / Speculation / So did China ask all banks not to invest in Bitcoins or only their central bank? on: December 05, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
I'm partially ask this because I really don't know.

But also because the use of the word ban is really annoying me.

They pretty much just warned everyone its a really volatile thing to invest in (which I hope everyone could already tell) and that their banks shouldn't deal with it because its too risky of an investment.
29  Economy / Economics / Re: The Coming Global Wealth Tax on: December 04, 2013, 03:08:11 PM
Wealth taxes are the natural and logical consequence of irresponsible deficit spending

Bitcoins are a natural and obvious hedge against govt sponsored theft

The case rests...

I disagree that theres anything logical about it. It might theoretically redistribute the wealth (which i guess would theoretically fix things), however, impossible to implement and as if offshore bank accounts weren't enough, we have gold, bitcoins, and dummy coorporations. Impossible to implement fairly and would drive capital investment as FAR AWAY as possible.

My points is that even without Bitcoins, they would never implement something so stupid.
30  Economy / Economics / Re: The Coming Global Wealth Tax on: December 04, 2013, 03:04:50 PM
This is just the beginning. (See my post titled Economic Devastation)

If you have ever read Asimov's foundation trilogy we are like the happily oblivious capital of the empire. Bad bad times are ahead.

If you read the prequel Smiley, they weren't quite that oblivious (or happy). Just self denial.

Oh wait, thats us.
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: $2,000 on: December 04, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Its simple, just double the number of people who are interested in it now want to get into bitcoins. Thats when price will be stable at 2000 at least.
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin under 1000$ tomorrow ! on: December 04, 2013, 06:53:48 AM
Quote
Bitcoin under 1000$ tomorrow !

...on Bitcoinity...  Cheesy
lol
"DANGGIT Bitcoin fell that much?

Oh wait ...."
Cheesy
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: $2,000 on: December 04, 2013, 05:38:08 AM
It'll jump way past it to 3000 sometime within the next couple months and then fall back down to a bit above 2000 a couple days later. Then it'll either stay or crash way down.
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Name something you've actually BOUGHT with bitcoin on: December 01, 2013, 05:04:27 AM
HUmble bundle. Asic miners. Paying back my friends for stuff.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hey bitcoiner, how OLD are you? on: December 01, 2013, 05:00:29 AM
18. Unfortunately used the wrong bank account to do my trading. Suntrust closed my account which since it was still a joint with my mom and my brother messed up theirs too. Should have switched over to my individual account quicker. At least I can pay them back/justify the trouble of switching banks with that 1000% return.
36  Economy / Economics / Re: Transactions Withholding Attack on: November 26, 2013, 06:56:25 PM
So the point is they're linking their payment thing with their own client with no transaction fees.

The easiest way to get away from fees would just to do their transactions off network.

No you missed the entire point. Try again.

Amazing to me that such an easy concept for me is so difficult for so many readers.

Actually I don't think I did. If they had their own client without TX. Lets say they have 20% of the network has hash rate.  It would take 50 minutes for a single confirmation. No one would use it unless the person they send to takes zero (or maybe 1 confirmation).  At that point it would only be used for Amazon purchase (assuming we're using Amazon as a stand in).  At that point they might as well just make the transactions off block. Where did my reasoning go wrong?
37  Economy / Economics / Re: Transactions Withholding Attack on: November 26, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
OK, I've skimmed over a bit, but I don't see the point of this argument. So we're saying that in 30 years amazon is gigantic. So the point is they're linking their payment thing with their own client with no transaction fees.

It isn't that this would not be an issue, its just that its a terribly stupid way of doing it.

The easiest way to get away from fees would just to do their transactions off network. Get people to send btc to an online "wallet" and just do everything off network once they get the btc balance. You can't stop them from doing this and the transactions are just as feeless as if they did the stupid own wallet.

The wallet idea is stupid. No one would ever use something with a 50 minute confirmation time unless somebody accepted a 0 confirmation spend, which only amazon would accept so they might as well take their transaction off network on their own wallets.

If someone sees something I don't, please respond.

Its not like you could stop them or that it would be illegal or against the way a lot of the current stuff is handled ....
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weexchange "processing" my transaction for several days!? on: November 25, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Yeah, mines been processing for 12 days now.

Nothing on the support ticket....
39  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: November 21, 2013, 08:50:46 PM
Yeah, I meant safe, not save. But it is pretty safe. In what way is it not?
I have to say, arbitrage is a pretty save bet. You only get 1-2% a trade, but its safe.

probably you wanted to say "safe" not save. In any case , no it's not Cheesy
40  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it the end of BTC??? on: November 20, 2013, 03:58:41 PM
The problem with a large mining drop, is if it happens too fast, we could get stuck on a block for a LONG time. Like some of those ult currencies out there. But hopefully it would never drop that fast.
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