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41  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is valuebetting profitable? on: November 21, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Locked value bets for today until now Smiley



Or you can follow updates live in spreadsheet https://1drv.ms/x/s!AnYAOd-LKvdvgn_-wrN2hjEEm6nZ
42  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is valuebetting profitable? on: November 21, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
I can see that you are betting on tennis right now and you had 6 wins over 7 bets on it, And in my opinion  really think if you are only bet on sports bets it can sure be profitable because it only got less risk on it other than most betting platform out there but if you had knowledge and analysis with the given team of player to bet on, I really think it will gain you a lot of confidence in giving a brief outcome of the match when you try and do your research.

Valuebetting is not really about doing research and analyses, and certainly not when using special software. Valuebetting is more about putting volume in. Eventually by placing value bets you will make returns. So I do not spend time on analyzing. Only on my regular bets I make some analyzes and study the teams history and current situation.

BTW keep track on the spreadsheet. In mean time I locked over 40 valuebets already for today. You can compare the odds with your own bookie and copy the bets if you like to.
43  Economy / Gambling discussion / Is valuebetting profitable? Still 30% UP IN 5 DAYS!!!! FREE TIPS AVAILABLE!!! on: November 21, 2018, 11:36:05 AM
I locked every other thread.


Since 2 days ago I started the test run with the rebelbetting.com valuebetting software. The beta testgroup showed results of 14-25% on average from May until September.
 I purchased the software and now I want to find out myself if valuebetting indeed can be profitable in the long run.


I offered the community to enter the test betting pool. Only 1 member joined and we agreed to put in 50€ each and try out the software.  We started with 100€ and after 2 days our balance is up with 8.36% over approximatelly 35 bets.


Our goal with this thread is to find the answer on the question 'Is valuebetting profitable?'

Proof of balances as of today





Spreadsheet/logbook of all bets

Rebelbetting offers a special logbook to keep track of all results and progress. We give you guys the opportunity to follow our bets in real time. You have acces to the logbook at any time by following this link https://1drv.ms/x/s!AnYAOd-LKvdvgn_-wrN2hjEEm6nZ




Additional services

  • You can follow our bets on any bookmaker. Odds can vary. Free service
  • You can join our betting pool. I first gave the opportunity to test the sofware in group just for 25€. If you want to join our betting pool now you will have to pay as much as the value per participant in the current pool. At this moment 108€/2 participants makes 54€
  • We can offer valuebets on 90+ different bookmakers. If you want to receive personalized valuebets pm us and we can close a  cheap deal.

LIMITED OFFER!!

For a limited time i offer valuebets entirely for free!!!

For a limited time i will offer an entire free valuebetting service. Follow the steps below to order up to 10 free valuebets. NOTE Make sure you are ready to place bets when i send you the bets. Value bets come and go all the time


How does it work?

- PM or reply in this thread you want to receive free valuebet tips. Mention which bookie(s) you want to have covered (only fiat bookies ATM)
- I will screen the market and send you a screenshot of current available valuebets.
- If you use the bets the only thing i request is to post in this thread the bets you have placed and the results
- I always accept donations if the tips are succesful.




44  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: betting method profit guaranteed no paying on: November 20, 2018, 07:11:36 PM
would like to see the system as well. I have my own strategies but always up for new methods as addition to my own
45  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software. limited free tips offer on: November 20, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
new valuebets added for today. All bets are placed using the rebelbetting valuebetting software.




I you are interested to join, PM me.

If you like to receive Valuebets for a particular bookmaker ( crypto bookies not integrated), PM me i charge 1-5€ weekly depending on which bookie and amount you want to receive valuebets.
46  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software on: November 20, 2018, 06:32:20 AM
So far so Good. This is only the start but its always Nice

12 bets

9 wins
2 loss
1 pending

https://imgur.com/gallery/hqPXA3p
47  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software on: November 19, 2018, 10:09:04 PM
5/5 at This moment

Some more basketbal games after midnight.

https://imgur.com/a/GEYPQLz
48  Economy / Lending / Re: ►►Crypto Capital Loans◄◄Secured By Anti-Scam Bond✓🔥3.5%Month🔥2 BTC Available on: November 19, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
Any response?  Its not urgent but if you deny the request just let me know than i figure out something else
49  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software on: November 19, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
Here are the first bets placed using the software.

some notes:

Betting amounts are low.
   - But first of all it is a test run with a limited balance
   - Secondly valuebetting is about volume
   - thirdly the software has the Kelly criterion bankroll management implemented which calculates the bet amounts automatically according to the available bankroll.

You the screenshot below or follow the logbook/spreadsheet (possibly more bets get added)

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AnYAOd-LKvdvgXftdCUiNti43VVb




Important: Valuebetting is not a guaranteed winning strategy and cannot be compared with arbitrage betting. Value betting is about volume and decent bankroll management. Valuebetting will also be affected by downswings but by volume and BR management you can fight the variance in minimize the downsings. Valuebetting has proved to bring steady returns on a long term period with averages between 15-25% ROI monthly.
50  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some people wanted to test 'value betting' software with me on: November 19, 2018, 07:52:45 PM
Since yesterday we started with our testrun.

Only 1 person joined the testgroup. BTCtalk user Pif joined. Because we only are with the 2 of us we agreed to bot put in 50€.



First day 12 bets placed

9 wins
2 loss
1 pending

More details can be followed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5070512.msg47965275#msg47965275


We still remain open for participants. But joining fee will be based on current bankroll divided by 2.

We also provide personalized valuebets for the bookie of your choice ( crypto bookies not supported YET) For 1-10€ we provide 7 days valuebets for your chosen bookmaker. We charge 5€ but depending on the amount of valuebets for your bookie that are produced by our software we refund partially. We charge 1€ per 10 bets up to a maximum of 100 bets per week.
51  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software on: November 19, 2018, 07:10:11 PM
To prove I am not after anyones money by asking a 5€ fee on participants I have deposited 55€ myself + I paid for the 49€ rebelbetting valuebetting software.

Deposits + signup bonus of 25€ on interwetten




Proof of purchase lisence





Following link guides you to a ready made spreadsheet/logbook created by rebelbetting to follow every single bet, results and graphs.

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AnYAOd-LKvdvgXftdCUiNti43VVb
52  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: testrun by using the rebelbetting valuebetting software on: November 19, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
All Posts following after This one Will include all details about the progress of our test run
53  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some people wanted to test 'value betting' software with me on: November 19, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
Instead of doing it together why dont you do it for your ownself? What I thought is this, because you charge €5 people will think it goes to you, of course it is not and it is going to be on the pools as well but when you lose you will not lose this extra amount but if you win, you are going to get this extra so it is nothing to lose game. So if I can say, if you want to discuss anything you can open this thread as you want to but to ask people to join this, I do not think many of them will interested to do this

I understand you but in the other way i give people an opportunity that they can have their money handled by using the software they otherwise have to pay 49€ a month for. Now i paid for the 49€ monthly subscription with rebelbetting so i dont think its that bad to charge a 5€ fee to let people test the software with me.
So for me iT isnt a no loss opportunity. I spend 49€ on the rebelbetting valuebetting license.

If those that participate are happy with the results Made with the software they can purchase iT themselves. Otherwise they would have to pay 49€ each themselves. Now they have the opportunity to be part and try iT out for only 5€ fee

But still it is not a guarantee that software is going to work good enough to make some profit from it. I know what your intention, you just want to share with us here but if there is no proof om what you are going to do, I believe there will be no player around here that going to join your small group of betting. I believe this has nothing to do with the amount right? So you can start from small betting, as long as it is profitable then it will attract more players

IT has nothing to so with amount. Thats right. But i just offer the opportunity. The software normally brings 15-25% monthly according to the results of the betagroup from may until september over 12.000 bets.

But there are people who cant afford 500-1000€ to put in sport betting. Thats why i offer to play in a shared pool. So people participate in the software but dont have to spent 50€ on a monthly valuebetting lisence. I bought the lisence and i am even trying out with a small amount. So possibly i dont even cover my expenses in This trial but at least then i know what the software can do and so so the others.
I even am going to add 50€ of my own money to the funds. So i am really not after those fees. But i Fins iT obvious to charge a little cause i paid for the lisence.

I know iT is hard in This community. But high rank members and legendaries shouldnt treed Every newbie or low rank member the same. There are Some Good Guys and not all are the same.

But even if no one is joining i do not care. Im gonna launch a thread with all results, link to a special rebelbetting logboek where Every bet can be tracked.
54  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some people wanted to test 'value betting' software with me on: November 19, 2018, 03:06:56 PM
But still it is not a guarantee that software is going to work good enough to make some profit from it. I know what your intention, you just want to share with us here but if there is no proof om what you are going to do, I believe there will be no player around here that going to join your small group of betting. I believe this has nothing to do with the amount right? So you can start from small betting, as long as it is profitable then it will attract more players

Exactly.

That's why he wants people to join.
You know I don't even think he'll run with the money cause it won't be much. Even if I've seen people scamming for shit like 10€...
But he'll simply be assured to get the fees plus a good share of the profit.

Anyway value betting is a hell in bettings site sport. When you get caught you're immediately expelled with you're funds being seized.. It's much more risky than what most people believe.

For me its not for the fees. I would only charge them cause i paid 50€ for the monthly subscription for the rebelbetting software. I am even willing to add 50€ of my own money to the betting pool. I really dont care. The only thing i want is give people the opportunity to test the software in group. So in future they can purchase the software themself or add more money to the betting pool.

About limiting i am not that scared. Over 90 bookies are covered by the software. And Value betting is about placing multiple smaller bets. By using the Kelly criterion i mostly put bets max 2% of my balance per bet. So they can even limit me to 5€ per bet. Than i still can handle 2500-5000€ per bookie.
55  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there people interested in testing value betting software? on: November 19, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
@sygambler.

I registered with asianconnect yesterday and subscribed for pinnacle. However I had pinnacle activated in my valuebetting software and not a single value bet appeared. Pinnacle is perfect for arbitrage cause of their high overall odds. However I doubt they are perfect for valuebetting. I also checked out 188bet. This one shows much more valuebet opportunities.

At this moment the site that offers the most valuebets are Bwin and interwetten. So gonna try them out as well. Spoke with a guy in the rebelbetting FB group and he managed to place 3-4000 valuebets in Bwin. bet365 and interwetten without any problem. I think it all depends on the amount of money you put on a bet.

oh , was hoping you find some with asianconnect bookies
I won't be able to benefit from the software then anyway cause I only have access to bitcoin bookies and asianconnect
just be careful with fiat bookies cause they limit bettors really fast . I saw many people on twitter complaining about being limited  , someone was limited after making just 5 bets and he was up 250 GBP
so sometimes the sites block and limit the accounts when they see the bettor is betting for value no matter if the account is negative or positive

Gonna check our the other Asianconneft bookies today. Maybe they give more value bets
56  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some people wanted to test 'value betting' software with me on: November 18, 2018, 07:14:25 PM
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If those that participate are happy with the results Made with the software they can purchase iT themselves. Otherwise they would have to pay 49€ each themselves. Now they have the opportunity to be part and try iT out for only 5€ fee

Wait I don't get it. Will you give your participants the software to try it out for themselves Or will you test it out yourself and just showcase the results of your activity?

i am offering to join a small group to bet together. I will use the software and broadcast all results, interactive spreadsheet,...
I am not intending to pay a 49€ subscription for every participant.

In this way people can be part of a group that uses the software. So they can actually see the results closely that are made with the software without needing to purchase their own lisence for 49€.


57  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some people wanted to test 'value betting' software with me on: November 18, 2018, 05:00:08 PM
Instead of doing it together why dont you do it for your ownself? What I thought is this, because you charge €5 people will think it goes to you, of course it is not and it is going to be on the pools as well but when you lose you will not lose this extra amount but if you win, you are going to get this extra so it is nothing to lose game. So if I can say, if you want to discuss anything you can open this thread as you want to but to ask people to join this, I do not think many of them will interested to do this

I understand you but in the other way i give people an opportunity that they can have their money handled by using the software they otherwise have to pay 49€ a month for. Now i paid for the 49€ monthly subscription with rebelbetting so i dont think its that bad to charge a 5€ fee to let people test the software with me.
So for me iT isnt a no loss opportunity. I spend 49€ on the rebelbetting valuebetting license.

If those that participate are happy with the results Made with the software they can purchase iT themselves. Otherwise they would have to pay 49€ each themselves. Now they have the opportunity to be part and try iT out for only 5€ fee
58  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This person made $500,000 with gambling and lost it all within 60 seconds! on: November 18, 2018, 02:59:44 PM
The first thing to understand is emotion,well gambling is very thick with emotion its definitely from the bloodstream that moves faster to pump the heart.Breathing which makes it move irregularly and this makes the gambler's head uncontrollable,The result was that he made a hasty decision.
Actually gambling is good luck and I don't dismiss it.Well It's just that in this world there is nothing that can't be certain that there is a specific strategy for profit.The edge of the house always benefits cause the player is not only one,there have be millions and the fund rotates from the lost to the winner.Always like that.

true, that's why I love sport betting and poker the most. In both of them you still have a little control. I hate playing casinos cause in casino games you are fully dependent of the factor 'luck'. You can work out strategies for example Dice, mines,... but in the long run those strategies are worth sh*t
59  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You cannot win in gambling on: November 18, 2018, 02:56:44 PM
Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.
I'm not an expert in gambling too but saying that you can never win in gambling is just bullshit. Maybe you are just saying this because you can't accept your lost. If winning in gambling is impossible then why are many people still gambling right now??

I disagree with you. You can win in gambling. You just need the right ingredients to win like luck, strategy, discipline, etc.
Gambling is about winning or losing, if you are not ready to lose don't approach gambling. In gambling, I am personally guided only by luck.

To my mind, gambling is something very vague, losing is mainly based on the luck factor like the lottery, the odds are enormous. So be alert and plan if you want to succeed with gambling, you can lose all your possessions such as home, car, family if you invest too much in the gambling.
Don't make gambling a job to fulfill your life and your family. In my opinion there are no successful people from gambling except those who have casino businesses and mafia or soccer bookies. Make gambling as entertainment, not work, manage and limit your money when you are going to gamble.

You can make a living from gambling. But the main concern is not to get affected by greed. I am doing sportbetting for over 10 years now and I could support my family with my bet earnings.
Huge mistake lot of gamblers make is to chase the big money by placing high bets or with high odd accumulators. But why doing that. I am making a consistent average of 50-100€ profits daily. But instead of chasing high odds or accumulators I just bet a massive amount of bets with odds between 1.10 and 1.5.

Lot of people telling that betting on 1.1 odds for example isn't worth the effort. But see this calculation.

Belgian banks give 0.1% intrest YEARLY 0.25% loyalty bonus on a saving account. Lets say you have 1000€ on the bank. 0.1% means 1€ and the 0.25% means 2.5€ loyaltybonus. So on a Belgian saving account your 1000€ will bring you 3.5€ on a yearly basis.


1000€ betting balance. I mostly use 10% max of my betting balance on a single bet. Lets say I put 10€ (1%) on a 1.1 odd bet. If I win which happens in most cases with such a low odd I will make 11€ or 1€ profits. So in 1 day with only 1 bet I make the same profit as I would make by putting my money in a saving account.


Lets say you can do this 20-30-40-50 times a day. You still will have downswings but overall you will end up with more winning bets than loosing bets. Using this strategy and by using some valuebetting software I manage to make an overall average profit of 15-25% on a monthly basis.
So in my opinion there is a way of making a living from sport betting but only when you can exclude the 'greed' factor
60  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Friendly advice/warning about gambling in this market on: November 18, 2018, 02:42:26 PM
True, that's the reason why I sometimes rather prefer fiat betting sites to place my bets. I am a 100% crypto addict but for some reasons if the market is very unstable I prefer to bet in fiat. When I make profits on the fiat platforms I withdraw and use my fiat to buy crypto when they are in a good spot to buy.

On the other hand I always keep some crypto on crypto bookies. But then I never calculate to $ or € for my profits. When I bet at crypto bookies it is to increase my crypto balance and not to increase my $ value. Eventually crypto will go up anyway.
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