i was using recently for playing in primedice and 999dice without trouble, but since few days ago i ma having issues to connect to primedice, it does nothing, what should i do?
Reset your seed on PrimeDice |
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Ok... good to know it is by design and not just a tiny wee bug  Is there a way to get the bot to output or save all bets into a text/XML file or maybe a debug mode where I can inspect the API calls and responses? I've had a couple of instances where some weird stuff has happened while I have been away from the computer or sleeping (see the pic below)... unfortunately, it happened a long time before I noticed, so I couldn't look at the "live" bets to check values... and the site doesn't allow me to look that far back in history. I've triple checked my script... and it ran for like 11,000 bets prior... and another 10 or 20K bets after the little "bump" just fine... with slow but steady upward progress...  I'm wondering if it is just a glitch in the "profit line" calculation, if the API was putting out "bad" data or maybe some network issue was causing problems...  It was most likely the bot lost connection to the site, there was an error with a bet, or a contingency in your script you haven't considered yet. All bets are stored in a sqlite database called dicebot.db, in the bots' directory. You can view the data using something like sqlitebrowser |
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Quick update regarding the upcoming release later this weekend: - Bitsler random stopping has been fixed
- Kingdice login fixed
- Rollin migrated to new API - works again
- Bitdice login fixed, betting works, stats still not working properly
- Betterbets fixed
- Yolodice added, still some work needed though.
Further, I'm still waiting for provably.io to finish their API and let me know about it. Bit-exo will also be added to the bot, though there are currently some technical issues, so I'm not sure if they will be added to DiceBot with this release. |
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I'm actually in two minds wether to open source it or not so others can contribute. Two things putting me off that decision are: 1) Someone finds an exploit and doesn't report it but uses it  2) If in 2-3 years some big company wishes to buy BetKing, would they knowing the software is out there for free? Yeah, 1) is concerning. Not only does open source make it easier to find attack vectors, it makes it easier to abuse them. Of course, it's never a good idea to rely on obscurity -- but it makes a good defensive layer. 2) I don't think I'd worry about. I think as long as the license allows you to relicense it, I'm not sure it'd be a big deal. Big companies buy companies for the player base and brand, not the code itself. I guess the middle ground is to open source the front end, but not the back end. It largely avoids all the security risk stuff, but unless it's easy for people to run their own dev copy it might be hard to get contributors 100% agree there. I'll open source the front end but not back. The front is more useful anyway as it allows players to mod things if they like. In my bed-time life contemplations I've considered writing and opening an almost open source casino a few times. My conclusion every time was to write a separate library that handles all of the game logic (like RNG, hit registering, win/lose, returns etc) and open source that, but keep the datalayer and other business layers closed |
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Nice dice site, but the referral fee should be higher. If you give like 30 or 40% you can get more referrals, and the site will become even more prevalent.
30-40% affiliate earning is too generous, standard affiliate earning of dice site is only 10% from house edge. If a site gives 30-40%, it will not make the site becoming better but it may make the site sounds fishy IMHO. Yeah i admit it that 30-40% is really a good payout just from affiliates but it does not mean that the site will become scam site though. As long as they can pay it does not matter. May be this is just some promotion to attract more people here and after some period of time the site will be back to normal with 10% affiliates program. But may be with 30-40% it has different count too, may be count only win or may be loss only not a total wagered Actually, how does the site make money? Referral is 20% but commission on investment is only 10% of profits... Assuming perfect ev, the site loses that extra 10% whenever a referred player is playing because it pays out more in affiliate commission than it earns in investment commission. In fact, with the opening bonus in the affiliate system, the site doesn't even get commission because it's all distributed among the affiliate partners... I assume the site depends on the admin investments and non-referral players for its income? Sounds extremely risky to me |
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Would new software have a decent API?
Yes. The whole point of new software is to be able to go back with a fresh start and do things right building on the 4 years of experience I now have. Dice is very simple but the tech behind it would include: Proper REST API Easier maintenance and deployment. Easier to add new features, games or bug fixes Better scalability and performance Better auditing and security 3rd party app support I've already started that for the new version. Dice game is done (including API). Considering the response I think it might be best to launch dice after the new framework is in place and then add games/features as they are done (no rushing them this time). I wanted to come back with a huge release and ad campaign but if say dice, casino and sports were all ready to go it probably isn't worth it from a business point to wait x months until poker was ready for example. Cool. I support this decision. Will you send me an email when you're testing the site or about a week before you launch so I can have DiceBot ready for the launch please? |
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The time running doesn't reset when you reset stats. There was some really good reason for it but I can't remember what it is.
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Would new software have a decent API?
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But if we using bot all the time how can we know how much we already wagered? Do you have any leaderboard or some stat that we can see on how much we already wagered? Because this will pretty hard to remember each tickets that we already earn. May be you can add stat on each people that wagered will be good for this feature
Easiest way to know how much tickets have you earned was to note/write down your total wagered at the beginning of the contest. Then you can just check the difference and divide by 0.01. I don't expect SD to make any changes to the site just to show the tickets earned, but posting a mid-week update with all the contest stats would be really nice. When we release SD2 we will most likely have some feature like this and many other new features. But at the moment we are focused on SD2, and we aren't making updates to SafeDice at the moment. You can do what pawel7777 said and keep track of the number of tickets you have that way. If Admin gives me the numbers I can post a mid-week update but I can't promise this. What is the ETA foe SD2? Will I have to make changes to DiceBot to get it working on SD2? If so, can I get access to the site a few days before launch to get the bot sorted out? |
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seuntjie,
If we do find a bug or have a feature request of some kind, is it best to post for you here or to post on the dicebot site?
Bugs I prefer if you post them to the dicebot site, it allows me to manage them a bit easier. New feature requests you can do wherever, you'll get the same answer pretty much everywhere: I'm currently not adding new features to the bot, but I might consider it for version 4. |
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Hi Seuntjie
I always wonder why is there only mmmmkkk for losing but missing a mmmmkkkk for winning.
I have a suggestion in the bot next update can you possible add a feature for "Custom" in Settings Mode (Advanced) *mmmmkkkk* can you add another mmmmkkkk for winning?
Thanks
I need this feature if possible. Thank You I'm currently not adding new features to the bot, sorry. I suggest taking a look at the programmer mode |
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Am trying to use the bot to play on rollin but it seems not to log me in and I can't register from bot dashboard...is the problem on my side Current problems with Sites in the bot that I know of: - Bitsler: Betting stops for ~30 seconds the whole time. Setting a betting speed of 1 bet/s should fix this until I release an update
- Bitdice: Can log in, but bets aren't going through. The bets are actually going through (so don't spam the button thinking nothing is happening), the bot just encounters an error when trying to display it
- Fortunejack: Can't log in. It's a cloudflare issue, I've been trying to fix it but there's something weird with their setup.
- Rollin.io: Can't log in because of the captcha on the login page. Rollin has committed to helping me find a solution, but they have other priorities. No ETA on a fix yet
- Kingdice: Can't log in due to the captcha on login page. Also committed to ginding a solution but no ETA yet.
- Betterbets: Not sure about the list of things broken, but things are broken. I need to sit with Lobos to fix it.
I'm not yet sure when the next release will be. In addition to Rollin and Kingdice, I'm waiting on 3 other sites that might be added to the bot soon for some changes, and I'm extremely busy with other work at the moment. Just letting everyone know that I haven't abandoned the project, there will be an update before the end of February at the latest, I've just been a bit busy. |
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Hello dev, first time downloading this Dicebot, it is really good tool too.
Because i will simulate before i tried the strategy, can i increase the simulate speed so i can have the outcome faster? As 500,000 Bets take quite some time.
Thank you!
Unfortunately there's no way to speed up the simulation. Speed improvements for the simulations are planned for version 4 of the bot though (don't know when this will be though) |
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i will test the bot now and see how it goes for primedice it always worked fine for others - depeneds Seuntjie good job with the bot and it always work good with prime dice and i would like to see some updates with bitdice and i would like to see you add yolodice and duckdice and when can we expect the next update as i really like rolling with it. Bitdice is already (kind of) fixed for the next version. DuckDice doesn't seem to be interested. They might be added a bit later. Yolodice needs to add an API first, Ethan is working on it. They will probably added to the next release. Next version will likely be on the 19th of Feb |
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Forcing seed changes without notification is a breach of provably fairness. He could have just had an amazing streak, or hit two 77.77s in a row for the rumored (still no official announcement on that) jackpot, but now pds changed his seeds and in effect his rolls, and possibly made him lose.
I understand that sometimes it's necessary for pd to change seeds in case there was some security issue, and I have no problem with it. But, doing so without a proper explanation is not OK. Tell us why the seeds were changed or anyone claiming that they would have won 200 coins in the next 10 rolls (after verifying his rolls and checking the upcoming rolls) has a valid reason for claiming PD scammed.
I wouldn't go as far as claiming that PD did cheat just yet. I'm sure this was a security related issue. I'd suggest waiting for an explanation from Stunna or some other official body of the site before jumping to conclusions.
Yes and no. Bets aren't related to the previous roll, but they are dependent on the seeds. Remember that PD uses a nonce based system. So 1 server seed and 1 client seed for millions of bets. You hash 1:serverseed:clientseed and get your first roll, then you hash 2:serverseed:client seed and get your second roll. So maybe this guy was at roll 100 and that would have been 77.77, and 101 would coincidentally also be 77.77. But PD has now changed the server seed and the nonce resets to 1. So now you're hashing 1:serverseed2:clientseed which will most likely result in a new number. The moment you pick your server seed and client seed, PD knows what each and every roll is going to be until you randomize again, and these rolls can't change (that's what makes them provably fair) unless the seeds are changed. Which happened, without the users consent, which stops making it provably fair. This means, someone can take their last seeds that was forcibly changed by PD, and generate the numbers he would have gotten if he continued betting with that seed and say: My strategy has been high on reverse martingale for the last 1000 bets. the next 15 bets I should have placed would all have been wins. PD changed my seed so I wouldn't win 20 bitcoin with those bets. And it would be valid (because it is in PDs capabilities to predict this, even if they don't do it) until PD provides us with an acceptable reason for changing the seeds. Edit: To be clear, I'm not trying to say that pd is scamming or that they cheated. I'm trying to explain why it is important that PD tells us why the seeds were changed. I would advise everyone to wait for an explanation and not jump to conclusions. Edward explained to me why they forced a seed change, and it is a valid security reason, and will be providing me with proof of it soon. They definitely were not trying to cheat anyone out of a large upcoming win or anything (not that I ever suspected them of doing so). Unfortunately, I cannot share any of the information other than was Stunna has already posted here. We rotated off access of our prior developer as he has moved on and reset seeds for security reasons. There should have been proper notice of the seed change, I was traveling and just found out about this. My apologies for this inconvenience, I understand a lot of players play small bet long term strategies, this may change the outcome for better or worse but I insist this will not change the odds. This is something we typically do 2-3 times a year (usually when we change hosts) but will give better notice in the future. Again, sorry if this has inconvenienced you. This was unprofessional on our part.
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There was an error while rolling ,admins has to give the answer for that.After changing the seed you can still play and what is the problem with that.How did they disrespect you,i do not get it because updates are being done and you might see these errors now and then while updating. Forcing seed changes without notification is a breach of provably fairness. He could have just had an amazing streak, or hit two 77.77s in a row for the rumored (still no official announcement on that) jackpot, but now pds changed his seeds and in effect his rolls, and possibly made him lose. I understand that sometimes it's necessary for pd to change seeds in case there was some security issue, and I have no problem with it. But, doing so without a proper explanation is not OK. Tell us why the seeds were changed or anyone claiming that they would have won 200 coins in the next 10 rolls (after verifying his rolls and checking the upcoming rolls) has a valid reason for claiming PD scammed. I wouldn't go as far as claiming that PD did cheat just yet. I'm sure this was a security related issue. I'd suggest waiting for an explanation from Stunna or some other official body of the site before jumping to conclusions. I don't think changing the seed prevented him from winning. The way that the SHA and the noonces work for everybet is that the outcome is completely different and not related to the previous bet. If you change a single part of a hash transaction, it completely hashes the outcome. I don't think keeping the same seed would of helped him win any faster, its all relative with probability. Yes and no. Bets aren't related to the previous roll, but they are dependent on the seeds. Remember that PD uses a nonce based system. So 1 server seed and 1 client seed for millions of bets. You hash 1:serverseed:clientseed and get your first roll, then you hash 2:serverseed:client seed and get your second roll. So maybe this guy was at roll 100 and that would have been 77.77, and 101 would coincidentally also be 77.77. But PD has now changed the server seed and the nonce resets to 1. So now you're hashing 1:serverseed2:clientseed which will most likely result in a new number. The moment you pick your server seed and client seed, PD knows what each and every roll is going to be until you randomize again, and these rolls can't change (that's what makes them provably fair) unless the seeds are changed. Which happened, without the users consent, which stops making it provably fair. This means, someone can take their last seeds that was forcibly changed by PD, and generate the numbers he would have gotten if he continued betting with that seed and say: My strategy has been high on reverse martingale for the last 1000 bets. the next 15 bets I should have placed would all have been wins. PD changed my seed so I wouldn't win 20 bitcoin with those bets. And it would be valid (because it is in PDs capabilities to predict this, even if they don't do it) until PD provides us with an acceptable reason for changing the seeds. Edit: To be clear, I'm not trying to say that pd is scamming or that they cheated. I'm trying to explain why it is important that PD tells us why the seeds were changed. I would advise everyone to wait for an explanation and not jump to conclusions. Pd never checks what your future rolls will be nor does it hav systin place for that, i can guarantee you that. But yes, i agree that thwh need to give players an explanation and when Posible a notificatjon about upcoming seed reset. But also please note that pd did not change your seed. And never will. It is forcing you to pick new one or you can stop playing but it will never change the seed for you. It just asks you to pick new one. So the part where you say seed was forcibly changed by pd is not true Let me rephrase that then. PD forced you to stop playing, possibly right before you could have won. And wouldn't allow you to resume playing without changing the outcome of your rolls. It doesn't change the scenario (actually makes it sound worse) |
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There was an error while rolling ,admins has to give the answer for that.After changing the seed you can still play and what is the problem with that.How did they disrespect you,i do not get it because updates are being done and you might see these errors now and then while updating. Forcing seed changes without notification is a breach of provably fairness. He could have just had an amazing streak, or hit two 77.77s in a row for the rumored (still no official announcement on that) jackpot, but now pds changed his seeds and in effect his rolls, and possibly made him lose. I understand that sometimes it's necessary for pd to change seeds in case there was some security issue, and I have no problem with it. But, doing so without a proper explanation is not OK. Tell us why the seeds were changed or anyone claiming that they would have won 200 coins in the next 10 rolls (after verifying his rolls and checking the upcoming rolls) has a valid reason for claiming PD scammed. I wouldn't go as far as claiming that PD did cheat just yet. I'm sure this was a security related issue. I'd suggest waiting for an explanation from Stunna or some other official body of the site before jumping to conclusions. I don't think changing the seed prevented him from winning. The way that the SHA and the noonces work for everybet is that the outcome is completely different and not related to the previous bet. If you change a single part of a hash transaction, it completely hashes the outcome. I don't think keeping the same seed would of helped him win any faster, its all relative with probability. Yes and no. Bets aren't related to the previous roll, but they are dependent on the seeds. Remember that PD uses a nonce based system. So 1 server seed and 1 client seed for millions of bets. You hash 1:serverseed:clientseed and get your first roll, then you hash 2:serverseed:client seed and get your second roll. So maybe this guy was at roll 100 and that would have been 77.77, and 101 would coincidentally also be 77.77. But PD has now changed the server seed and the nonce resets to 1. So now you're hashing 1:serverseed2:clientseed which will most likely result in a new number. The moment you pick your server seed and client seed, PD knows what each and every roll is going to be until you randomize again, and these rolls can't change (that's what makes them provably fair) unless the seeds are changed. Which happened, without the users consent, which stops making it provably fair. This means, someone can take their last seeds that was forcibly changed by PD, and generate the numbers he would have gotten if he continued betting with that seed and say: My strategy has been high on reverse martingale for the last 1000 bets. the next 15 bets I should have placed would all have been wins. PD changed my seed so I wouldn't win 20 bitcoin with those bets. And it would be valid (because it is in PDs capabilities to predict this, even if they don't do it) until PD provides us with an acceptable reason for changing the seeds. Edit: To be clear, I'm not trying to say that pd is scamming or that they cheated. I'm trying to explain why it is important that PD tells us why the seeds were changed. I would advise everyone to wait for an explanation and not jump to conclusions. |
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There was an error while rolling ,admins has to give the answer for that.After changing the seed you can still play and what is the problem with that.How did they disrespect you,i do not get it because updates are being done and you might see these errors now and then while updating. Forcing seed changes without notification is a breach of provably fairness. He could have just had an amazing streak, or hit two 77.77s in a row for the rumored (still no official announcement on that) jackpot, but now pds changed his seeds and in effect his rolls, and possibly made him lose. I understand that sometimes it's necessary for pd to change seeds in case there was some security issue, and I have no problem with it. But, doing so without a proper explanation is not OK. Tell us why the seeds were changed or anyone claiming that they would have won 200 coins in the next 10 rolls (after verifying his rolls and checking the upcoming rolls) has a valid reason for claiming PD scammed. I wouldn't go as far as claiming that PD did cheat just yet. I'm sure this was a security related issue. I'd suggest waiting for an explanation from Stunna or some other official body of the site before jumping to conclusions. |
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Current problems with Sites in the bot that I know of: - Bitsler: Betting stops for ~30 seconds the whole time. Setting a betting speed of 1 bet/s should fix this until I release an update
- Bitdice: Can log in, but bets aren't going through. The bets are actually going through (so don't spam the button thinking nothing is happening), the bot just encounters an error when trying to display it
- Fortunejack: Can't log in. It's a cloudflare issue, I've been trying to fix it but there's something weird with their setup.
- Rollin.io: Can't log in because of the captcha on the login page. Rollin has committed to helping me find a solution, but they have other priorities. No ETA on a fix yet
- Kingdice: Can't log in due to the captcha on login page. Also committed to ginding a solution but no ETA yet.
- Betterbets: Not sure about the list of things broken, but things are broken. I need to sit with Lobos to fix it.
I'm not yet sure when the next release will be. In addition to Rollin and Kingdice, I'm waiting on 3 other sites that might be added to the bot soon for some changes, and I'm extremely busy with other work at the moment. Just letting everyone know that I haven't abandoned the project, there will be an update before the end of February at the latest, I've just been a bit busy. So if i am understand it right in the new update of the bot, the speed of the bets for bitsler will then be the same as on the site as within the bot. Hopefully it does Now it is performing very slow when betting under 1000sathosi. They should be faster than they are now (although they're not too bad if you just set your betting speed to 1 bet/s like I've suggested a hundred times), but I don't know whether they'll be as fast as on the site. There are still betting speed limitations in the site and I'm not sure whether they're different for the bot and the site. |
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Hi, moooonu came with an idea to run a simple trivia later today and I agreed to sponsor the prizes. If you are interested, here's the ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1773935 . The first trivia starts in ~2 hours from now! I hope you enjoy it! I am thinking into turning this into a periodic contest, or maybe even add a "trivia bot" to spice the chat a little bit. It's not a critical thing for a dice game, but still fun. Cheers, Ethan A trivia bot sounds nice. A bot who you can tip, pm the question and answer and it will do the rest.  Yeah except the annoying thing with those trivia bots are that most of the questions that they take is from the same database, so its very easily to fool it. You can actually download this database yourself. You would have to make a custom database with different spelling and letters to make it fair but even then you would have cheaters that simply google the answer. If you read past the first sentence of his post, you'd have noticed that the bot would be user submitted questions, not questions from some downloaded database. People that know the answers will almost always answer faster than someone can google it. If a google wins a questions, it's probably because no-one knew the answer and he googled the fastest |
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