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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 14, 2013, 08:45:16 AM
Ok guys i managed to acquire a HP ProLiant DL585 G7 Server, fully poppulated with 4 AMD 64 FX dual-core Opteron 6278's, thats a total of 64 cores running at 2400 default and 2.7 Ghz turbo for 600$, good deal or bad deal. Which will be the best use for this server, solo or pool mine. Your thoughts?

You'll probably never recover your initial expenditure of $600. However, depending on other specs, getting a G7 for that price is probably not too bad. You can possibly resell it for more than that in the future (on eBay) when you're done mining with it.

How much power consumption at 100% load? I hope your running it at work where that doesn't matter. Also, noise.

Solo or pool depends on how long you can wait between payouts. I'd probably just aim for solo.

Although the number of cores sounds impressive, like many people here who've gotten high-core opterons you may be disappointed with the overall performance.

At 100% load what is your chainsperday in HP11? From there you can estimate how much coin it will generate and how quickly it'll start paying itself off.
222  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: November 13, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
Wasn't ebay/paypal kinda against bitcoin miners? Pretty sure I read that somewhere...

Yes they are, they randomly ban people doing Bitcoin transaction. It only sucks if you are unlucky. Smiley

"Bitcoin" is a danger word to eBay/paypal. They've even circulated internal emails (that have been leaked) saying that the (currency) is high-risk in their eyes, which carries many implications especially if there is a problem with the transactions between the seller and buyer. It does not matter to them if the transaction is made using bitcoins, the trade is for buying/selling bitcoins themselves, or if its bitcoin related hardware: it's all the same in their eyes.

Sellers might be able to get away with it if they don't specifically use the word 'bitcoin' or 'BTC' in their listings.
223  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Vanitygen: Vanity bitcoin address generator/miner [v0.22] on: November 13, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
How do I get this (or other versions) to generate other alt-coins? Litecoins begin with L and Bytecoins begin with 8 and Tagcoins begin with T, for example.

Use this page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_address_prefixes

EXAMPLE:

Code:
oclvanitygen -D 0:0 -i -k -o found664.txt -X 23 Atri11ium

You must then test the address by importing the privkey and then testing it with a (small) quantity of coin.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: November 11, 2013, 07:34:07 AM
Never mined anything before.

Is it possible to [profitably] solo mine with a 2010 iMac with all cores running 24/7 and free electricity?

Well if you have the hardware (no investment / capital cost) and free electricity (no operational costs) then yes, by definition you are mining with 100% profit.

Will you make A LOT of money from it? No. (Probably a few cents or tens of cents per day on average). You'll also want to look at pooled mining.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 11, 2013, 04:43:14 AM
Quote from: Ethera
I give a heads up for the guy, as the diff rising steep shows that the gpu computation did enter the scene.

A statement for which you can provide convincing evidence for, I am sure.
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: November 09, 2013, 05:40:00 AM
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Unfortunately, carrying out the research to analyze collected data will require funding. I have been running "Primecoin version v0.1.2.0xpm-hp11-unk-beta" for 4 days now on a 32/64 core/thread server and I have only mined a block (primemeter  43807850 prime/h 663367364 test/h  180 7-chains/h 8.075400 chain/d). I just cannot see how anyone, other that people who have access to botnets, can be profitable at mining Primecoin.

8.0754 * 0.8 * 0.04 = 0.26 blocks per day (no variance) = those results are completely as expected = deal with it!

Edit: Apparently this old method of estimating blocks/day is outdated: ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255782.msg3487226#msg3487226

My GTX 580 disagrees with that mathematical formula and it did not even enroll in any engineering classes at MIT. You need to actually count the number of 9-chains at a fixed precision for a given amount of time before you can estimate your probability of finding a chain that meets the requirement.

My comment above has nothing to do with the discussion about GPU. You are confusing two different discussions going on in this thread simultaneously. The formula I provided is one determined by the work of mikaelh, who is the author of the HP series of miners. I realize you are fairly new and may not have read all 170+ pages of this thread, you would've come across it many times if you had. The formula provides an accurate representation of the mining reward when using CPU and when assuming zero variance, eg. an average over a long period of time.



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(30 blocks/day) x (60 days) x (10 XPMs) x (6 GTX 580 Hydro's) x (1.17 speed-up over stock ) = 126k XPMs

I suspect you are in fact trying to subtly manipulate the markets by stirring up the "IMPENDING GPU MINER" hysteria (again) that serves to create sillyness in the altcoin exchange trollboxes and market instability in general.

I am putting this down to another piss-poor attempt at market manipulation until some code is released and verified as working by other miners.
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 07, 2013, 09:13:45 AM

I have 192 E3-series xeon vCPU going offline today, maybe it will make the diff 0.001 lower for you guys  Wink

192!!!! Wow. This does not look like botnet at all Wink

My special botnet that virtualizes the hosts CPU cores without them realizing, infects even and divisible numbers of machines/cores, is limited to spreading inside just one room, and effects only E3 series Xeons. Yes.



 Kiss
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 07, 2013, 03:39:45 AM
Great discussion it will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next week or two.

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blocks/day = chains/day * (1 - fracDiff + 0.035)

This would be good to have in the FAQ on the OP since a lot of newbies seem to be in denial about how hard it is to mine these days.

I have 192 E3-series xeon vCPU going offline today, maybe it will make the diff 0.001 lower for you guys  Wink
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: November 07, 2013, 03:27:05 AM
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Unfortunately, carrying out the research to analyze collected data will require funding. I have been running "Primecoin version v0.1.2.0xpm-hp11-unk-beta" for 4 days now on a 32/64 core/thread server and I have only mined a block (primemeter  43807850 prime/h 663367364 test/h  180 7-chains/h 8.075400 chain/d). I just cannot see how anyone, other that people who have access to botnets, can be profitable at mining Primecoin.

8.0754 * 0.8 * 0.04 = 0.26 blocks per day (no variance) = those results are completely as expected = deal with it!

Edit: Apparently this old method of estimating blocks/day is outdated: ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255782.msg3487226#msg3487226
230  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: November 07, 2013, 03:19:20 AM
Keep in mind scrypt is just one of many dozens of scrypt based coins, and litecoin certainly isn't the most profitable to mine most of the time. Very nice setup by the way I'm sure it brings in some good coin.
231  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin master thesis on: November 06, 2013, 03:04:34 AM
Holy crap, why did I do a masters degree in the physical sciences? I'll be in the nearest corner, crying to myself.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 05, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
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After reading some comments, i understand that me not finding a block in 2 days is ok Smiley
Because i thought something is broken, and couldn't figure out what. But it's pure luck. LOL.
Since 22.10 i have solo mined 43 blocks which were sold for 1.3 BTC and now nothing for 2 days.
OK i'll wait Smiley

Yes. the fractional difficulty is currently very high (.96 or more) This means only 4% or less of the chains suggested by the chainsperday value would be accepted by the network.

If my understanding is correct, when we hit 10.000 diff, then the chainsperday value will change to a much lower number since its related directly to the whole integer value of the difficulty.

If you only have one (or a small few) machines then you probably wont see a block each day anymore.
233  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter USB - Overclocking/ hacking ? on: November 04, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
Cheapest chinese waterblocks on the market ✔

Cheapest chinese USB hub on the market ✔

Cheapest Rpi from china ✔

Priceless.

I wish them a superior high class river for the arctic cold eruption.
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: November 04, 2013, 04:06:07 AM
it would be nice if somebody create a calculator how much could i mine XPM per day on diffrent CPU

http://anty.info/primecoin-calculator

This has come up in previous pages. The answer is: its complicated, and difficult to achieve.

The calculations to estimate your XPM per day have been discussed quite a bit by mikaelh and in my own posts, suggest you look through our comment histories for examples.
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: November 02, 2013, 01:12:48 PM
Hi, I'm having trouble syncing my wallet now...
I added the muuttuja node, and am still getting crashes and errors when the wallet is about to sync.

Did you have the built-in miner running at the same time? AFAIK, those crashes occur randomly when mining. Also, some of your database files may be corrupt now because of the crash.

29 miners running here and never seen that error? Maybe I'm lucky.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: November 02, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
Have you stress tested your system to see if its actually stable? You seem to be having a lot of unusual problems.
237  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: November 02, 2013, 08:54:55 AM
do you have much noise in your room?

 They are surprisingly quiet.


hm i am sceptic about that quietness cuz u have many coolers, but maybe they are quiet id they are some kind of sillent

Many quiet fans != noise

Sound intensity does not scale like you think it does.
238  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: October 31, 2013, 01:00:09 PM

Why do you have wires coming from the outside thru the window?

Keyboard, display, mouse, outdoor temp sensor, network cable etc...

If they could only make all those wireless...oh wait.

Wifi is unreliable. You can't VNC / teamviewer / remote desktop into a machine that has a wifi adapter that's deciding not to auto-reconnect. For this reason all of my primecoin miners ( 8 ) are hard-wired on 100/1000.

Also if something happens during POST or boot up, or a hang/wait on shutdown, and you dont have KVM connected, then you're screwed.

(Wireless KVM systems are in my experience: annoying, poor quality, buggy, laggy, and expensive).
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin High Performance on: October 30, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
New error:


"errors" : "Warning: checkpoint on different blockchain fork, contact developers to resolve the issue",


Any clues?

After ensuring your time problem(s) were resolved:

1) Append the following to your shortcut path field or batch file. If you run the .exe directly create a shortcut to it

Code:
-reindex

Run it

It will attempt to reindex the blockchain, but probably crash immediately. Close the program, remove the -reindex parameter, and run as you normally would.

It should now reindex the blockchain (could take a long time depending on your machine specs).
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: October 30, 2013, 01:20:05 PM
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I'm having an issue with "No block source available" with the wallet. It's been running fine for a month running it. How do I fix this issue?

Installed any 3rd party security or network management software lately?

Check Windows firewall exception exists for the relevent .exe's in their current location. These can sometime be reset with windows updates or if the file location changes (although Windows Firewall itself would suggest that these problems should not occur, they can..).

And,

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Q: How do I solve a problem with the client not being able to synchronize or connect to any nodes?
A: Try adding this line to your primecoin.conf file:
Code:

seednode=primeseed.muuttuja.org


Also check that your firewall allows outgoing connections to other nodes. You may also allow incoming connections if you want. The default port used by Primecoin is 9911 (TCP).

Alternatively to above, open console and copy/paste this command, press enter afterwards

Code:
addnode primeseed.muuttuja.org add
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