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1461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 20, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
wtf, again 117k ... when we will finally start to going up  Huh

why are you complaining dude, buy them at 117 NOW before you never see the price again... buy and hold.  simple concept.
1462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 20, 2014, 11:13:24 AM
buy wall 85 BTC is gone. now you will see this 85 BTC move over to sell wall at 140k or 150k. easy flips all weeks long.

perhaps that was a whale buying his own coins to manipulate the market, hope i'm wrong though.

You guys are so blinded from the obvious its unreal.

Over the past two weeks while you all bicker about the current price, big business has been buying up XC like crazy. I personally can account for 5% of all of the XC is now owned by two of londons most prominent investment bankers. That doesn't even include my stake.

Your all too busy looking at the short term charts to see the bigger picture.

You honestly think XC is worth less than a tenth of DRK?

Look at whats been accomplished in the last month alone and imagine what the playing field is going to look like in three months time.

You won't see those buy walls converted to sells anytime soon. Some of us arnt that fickle.





To all newcomers, what mike says might sound a bit farfetched and too optimistic, but for those too bored to make their own search lemme help you: this guy has made XC holders a LOT of money through his tips, while promoting a "holding" approach. Just to clear things.

obviously hold this coin if its below 1 dollar... lol... maybe sell @ 20-30 dollar.  longggggggg
1463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 20, 2014, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: mikemikemike
link=topic=630547.msg7410103#msg7410103 date=1403239546

buy wall 85 BTC is gone. now you will see this 85 BTC move over to sell wall at 140k or 150k. easy flips all weeks long.

perhaps that was a whale buying his own coins to manipulate the market, hope i'm wrong though.

You guys are so blinded from the obvious its unreal.

Over the past two weeks while you all bicker about the current price big business has been buying up XC like crazy. I personally can account for 5% of all of the XC is now owned by two of londons most prominent investment bankers. That doesn't even include my stake.

Your all too busy looking at the short term charts to see the bigger picture.

You honestly think XC is worth less than a tenth of DRK?

Look at whats been accomplished in the last month alone and imagine what the playing field is going to look like in three months time.

You won't see those buy walls converted to sells anytime soon. Some of us arnt that fickle.



Can you show any evidence of these buys from big business and investment bankers? How do you know?

I used to work with them.

And seriously, have you not seen the orderbook over the last few weeks? You think all those 100 BTC buy walls that got eaten up were manipulation?

mikemikemike i hope your rightrightright
1464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 20, 2014, 01:52:17 AM
Amen!
1465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 06:54:37 PM
To help clarify, the below text explains why the name was chosen.

XCURRENCY

The Power of a Name: Branding Behind XC
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________________

A brand is not just a logo, and it’s not just a name.  A brand is the entire message being presented to the public by a company, in order to draw and retain potential customers.  It consists of the company’s logo, their name, the look and feel of their website and social media outlets, their communication to the target audience through announcements and public relations, and the voice that carries out that communication, whether conveyed verbally or by written word.

The brand is communicated to the public by means of a brand strategy.  The content that the company chooses to communicate, both verbally and visually, is a part of the brand strategy, as well as when, where, and how it is communicated.  The brand strategy also takes into account the channels through which the communication will be made, along with who the target audience will be for each given channel.
Also important in branding, is brand equity.  This is a direct result of how consistently the company can portray their brand.  Consistent branding on all fronts leads to consistent perceptions from customers about what the brand represents.  This consistency helps build brand equity, which in turn adds value to the brand.

With all these factors to take into consideration, building a brand for a new project can be a challenging task.  There will be individuals already familiar with the product or service, and they’ll each have varying perceptions pertaining to what the product or service means to them individually, but the branding team still has to develop a focused approach to convey a concise message to the general target audience, in order to reach the broadest base they can.  Therefore, the most advantageous place to gain market share, along with brand equity, typically lies outside the core group who is already familiar with the given product or service.  This broader base is where the branding team must focus their efforts if they’re to help grow the product or service into all it can be.

How does all of this pertain to XC, you might ask?  One of the critical components to branding, especially with a new project, is the name that’s being branded.  The process of choosing the name XC, and deciding what XC should stand for, has been a topic of great debate for the core group that already knows about XC.  A more detailed look into how the name came to be, and how a broad target audience was involved in selecting the name, shows how the branding team strived to make the first steps toward bringing XC to a larger audience.

Initially, thoughts for the name were to focus on the anonymous functions of XC.  This is currently one of XC’s core competencies and it seemed a good place to start.  However, some quick studies with people from various areas of XC’s target market soon showed that ordinary people outside of XC’s currently small world weren’t very intrigued by the anonymous approach.  In fact, for some, the anonymous approach seemed off-putting.  For others, it just didn’t arouse their curiosity enough to get them to want to know more about XC and what XC offers.

This revelation led to a second approach, partly inspired by XC’s current core group.  Instead of focusing upon the anonymous functions of XC, it was decided that the focus would be upon the platform that XC offers, and the privacy being afforded by this platform.  It was back to the target audience to get further input, and it didn’t take long for another piece of the puzzle to quickly unfold.  When taking the privacy approach, the majority of people were once again not intrigued, but this time, almost to the point of boredom.  

Frustrated with these results, it was back to the drawing board.  Several renditions and variations of the name were tried, and each met with varying levels of success or failure, but none received the response that XC demands.  It wasn’t until we went through many renditions, that one name came up that met with an overwhelming amount of positive reception when presented to members from the target audience.  Upon presenting it to them, responses ranged from thinking it sounded “cool”, to wanting to know more about what it meant, to wondering how and where they could read up further on it.  That name was XCurrency.  People instantly knew it was related to a way of storing or moving value, and the stand-alone “X” left just enough unknown to keep them intrigued and to keep them asking questions.

Upon further study, it became obvious that XCurrency was a natural choice from the beginning.  After all, XC is a form of currency, and that will be its core function for at least as far as we can see into the future.  XC is capable of other functions as well, such as encrypted messaging, anonymous tranfers of funds, etc., but its core function still remains as a currency.  As such, XCurrency meets the branding requirements in the fact that it successfully sets expectations in people’s minds when they see it.  It also arouses enough curiosity to cause people to take action, as they want to learn more.  That is the goal of a name, and with that action, we can then provide them with the necessary education to let them know the true benefits of XC and all that it offers, which we as a community already know and are anxious to share.

_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________________

Yes this is an extremely long post, sorry about that. However as early adopters those of you who support the coin need to know that we are working to take this to a much broader audience than Bitcointalk.  Let's not limit our success by thinking inside a box.   Wink


ok ok I will stop trying to push this privacy platform... you can see on the poll though most people would agree with me,so I am not sure who your target audience is.  It is what it is.

next subject? Wink
1466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 06:31:55 PM
The drawback of privacy platform, whilst all-encompassing and rolling well off the tongue, is it's not obvious from the slogan that it's primarily a currency.

XC - Privacy Platform and under its umbrella = (XCurrency,XCommunicate(encrypted chat), XConsign (encrypted document transfer), XContact(encrypted address book)..

whatever else.... I am being XCreative right now obviously
1467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
what do you think guys, will we reach something more than this price  which is stable almost two weeks (120-130) ? I mean not pump but stable price...
XC is staying low for a reason, just hope it won't go lower. I personally don't think the creator know how to market his product.

Are you kid from DRK lovers? Cheesy
nope.
x11coin, xecutive, flexible... do you see any resemblance?
not to say the delayed of logo and accepting very late logo contest when it's already closed. the promised of 3-4weeks for rev.2 which is almost 4 weeks ago so I think it will not come out on time. countless problems of xnode and staking. it sound like the creator don't know what he's doing at this point and the price say it.

Nice fuds, well done.

except trivial things.  DEV delivered almost everything on time. unless you have some mental problem.  Xnode is working very well, and staking is also no problem.

only impatient bastard with reading problem keep asking staking issue. Maybe dev even do not bother answering your stupid questions.

but i will do.  shut fuck up!

Agree fudder needs to go away
1468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 06:11:24 PM
Have some patience and let the branding team work their magic. Did we not as a community vote for the logo? Didn't ATC reach out to us on what features/suggestions we had on encrypted messaging? Are you nervous because of the trains buzzin by? Crypt, now cloak. If you have suggestions, let ATC and the team know in the suggestion section at XC talk. http://forum.xctalk.com/index.php?/forum/26-suggestions/. Personally, I'm not a fan of flexible currency, but we don't have the whole picture. I'll hold judgement until we have some material to look at.

XC's fundamentals are still the same. We have a dev who has experience as a CEO. He's already connected with a PR/branding team to handle marketing. He's on his way to a bit coin meeting to showcase XC. In the mean time, have some fun with other alt coins. Lots of action going on. What an exciting time for us.

Not nervous at all, it is clear XC is on the path forward and not back... XC should be marketed as the"Privacy Platform" ,why you ask?  Cause you can SELL privacy these days... like I mention earlier.. it will be like selling bottled water... "who would ever buy bottled water?right?"-now look...bottled water isa multi million dollar industry.

Well who would ever buy privacy? right? The future is obvious...soon linksys and dlink and those others will start marketing and advertising "Residential PRIVACY Hardware Boxes!!"  What will they be? probably really well marketed hardware firewall boxes with some form of encryption built in ....maybe I am crazy...but I can see this type of shit happeneing, and I can see it being all the hype, and it will happen before anyone even realizes like a theif in the night.  We might as well be there with the Privacy Platform!

1469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 06:05:45 PM
I have been in the financial services industry for over 25 years. During these 25+ years I have advised clients on an individual and an institutional level.  I  have also managed my own portfolio, which has included penny stocks.   I am new to the cryptocurrency market, but believe some of the same principles prevail as when deciding how to invest your dollar in older, more traditional markets.  While Penny stocks are less known, and less traded, they are similar to larger markets, just much greater risk and exponentially larger swings.  The crypto market is very similar.   I found success in penny stocks, by focusing on the roots of the business, their management structure, branding and marketing consistencies, opposed to playing the pumps and day trading.  While day trading can lead to consistent gains, they are usually marginalized by the risk and overall return.  I found success in picking 3-4 stocks at a time that I felt at good leadership, a sound business plan, and had met their deadlines.  You would have some failures, but your percentage of winners was much higher if you had conviction and held for the real pump, the pump based on facts and delivery or development of goods and services.  This is why I have chosen XC as one my coins in my first steps into the Cryptocurrency market.  They have great management, they have a good business plan that is much more than just currency, they have delivered what they have said would be coming in the past, and I expect in the future, and finally a consistent logo and branding plan, despite some elasticity in this area in the early stages.   Remember, if you are day trading, you may sell on what you think is a pump and the train has left the station.  Is it worth the risk of missing the big gain, for a short day traded gain?  We are to that point with this coin now.  If you believe in the coin, the hold it, and you will be rewarded as long as the team continues to deliver.  This day will come sooner if you don't fall to the pressures of that daily quick gain and keep the sell board at appropriate levels.    I am excited to be a part of this market and I see this coin as a leader.  There is always a better alternative to any industries first to market.   I remember AOL, Palm, texas instruments, gateway computers,  Blackberry and MySpace.  I think XC is the one that will unseat the first to market in the cryptocurrency market.   I won't be posting much on here as I will hold this coin until I see evidence that it is not on plan.  However, I hope to tell my grandkids someday the story of this decision and how impactful it was on my life and theirs...

AMEN
1470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 03:54:47 PM
Updated Logo's

http://xc-official.com/XCPlatform/branding/logo/


In some cases these base images may be the ones that fit the application best. But we can also add various effects and treatments to the logo to meet the needs of specific uses. The important part is to maintain proportions and be consistent in message and presentation.

+1 to privacy platform










Are we not using the "Privacy Platform"  instead of "Flexible Currency"  - I think everyone thought Privacy Platform did justice... I am not sold on "Flexible Currency" ... Are we selling Privacy or are we selling Flexible Currency ?


Think Big Picture, XC Privacy Platform which has a component of "Flexible Currency", the platform is more than the just the currency



Right so, if we are to remain Consistent in our branding which is HIGHLY important.  We need to 100% make it firm that what people will see is "XC- Privacy Platform"  or "XC - Flexible Digital Currency"   ... Once whatever is approved by you (ATC) then that will be final and so thats what people should say from that point on to avoid market confusion.  We need to get the branding right from the Start.
1471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Updated Logo's

http://xc-official.com/XCPlatform/branding/logo/


In some cases these base images may be the ones that fit the application best. But we can also add various effects and treatments to the logo to meet the needs of specific uses. The important part is to maintain proportions and be consistent in message and presentation.

+1 to privacy platform










Are we not using the "Privacy Platform"  instead of "Flexible Currency"  - I think everyone thought Privacy Platform did justice... I am not sold on "Flexible Currency" ... Are we selling Privacy or are we selling Flexible Currency ?


Think Big Picture, XC Privacy Platform which has a component of "Flexible Currency", the platform is more than the just the currency



I would agree the privacy platform assumes the basis and foundations for the currency, the messaging, the encrypted docs, the whatever else XC is going to do in the future.   Flexible currency labels it as a currency and thats about it... but it can be much much more than that and we all know this
1472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Can we have a poll on the marketing name please:

http://www.poll-maker.com/poll108768x3dA84318-4

please vote
1473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
Updated Logo's

http://xc-official.com/XCPlatform/branding/logo/


In some cases these base images may be the ones that fit the application best. But we can also add various effects and treatments to the logo to meet the needs of specific uses. The important part is to maintain proportions and be consistent in message and presentation.












Are we not using the "Privacy Platform"  instead of "Flexible Currency"  - I think everyone thought Privacy Platform did justice... I am not sold on "Flexible Currency" ... Are we selling Privacy or are we selling Flexible Currency ?
1474  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proof of Activity Proposal on: June 19, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
If this PoA is a solution to the 51% attack and IF litecoin forked to implement such a solution... I could see litecoin prices hovering back in the 50-100 dollar range.... we need to INVENT -and stop following bitcoin.  The next gen coins (like NXT) are all ranking up the charts because they are offering something NEW and not just being a faster BTC clone.

Do it coblee!


and lol @ post above - coinbase  when indeed Smiley

1475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
Last fews days , days traders took profits on XC each time they could to follow the pump on others coin. But now it become too dangerous to get out of XC because it is hard to rebuy cheap  (bid side is really dry and buying wall protection) and next big news are too close.

Now,  day traders can only hope to rebuy 10/15 points lower  but they would risk to panic buy 20/30 point higher pretty often . Doesn't seem to be EV+.

In fact i can't understand what could be the value to sell under 150/160 now, the risk rewards is really bad under these level. Even if the price was at 150 , we could only hope to rebuy to 130 and if 160 break we would have to rebuy around 170.

I keep my target around 250 end of the week/ beginning of next week.



I agree with all of this...

I have found some of the sells hard to understand when we have been rising which has made me think - I know its all conspiracy.. But I would not be surprised if some DRK holders with deep pockets have bought XC just to dump into rises... I really do believe they are scared of this coin and have tried everything they can to kill it... They have failed....This may be totally wrong but I cant help but think it... I get the impression they are running out of ammo and that the next rise / or rises are going to be 100% plus type jobs...

i don't know if some kind of conspiracy exist but it's true that i have seen a lot of irrational trade last few days  (as the dump of 60k xc at 140 the 17 june followed by a panic sold of 20kxc to 111,5, or 20k xc sold few hours after to 120...). These trade was very weird, can't buy so much volume lower,not a lot of profit, no reasons at all to dump, we had only good news last 2 weeks.
I think altcoin market is very irrational and ridiculous, traders don't care about the fondamental valu, it's all about the pump momentum going on. they don't want to stay invested into something because they don't want to miss the next pump opportunity  and they don't want to take the risk to be stuck into a sinking ship.

Altcoins traders don't trust the coins, they just use it to make quick profit and get out as soon as possible because they fear the dump.
Basically they pump a coin all together (sudden high volume trade) often without real reason (crypt), then everybody want a part of the cake and panic sell their own position with bad trade (as we have seen last days on XC) to come into the next big pump thinking they will win money to come back after. In reality only fews traders win big, others buy just before the dump to pay the profit of first pumpers

XC will create the surprise because it will get pump, but higher and faster than what people could expect, and price will stay quite high and stable after the pump.
i think litecoin is dying slowly now, his marketcap will be redistribute to the best altoin remaining (xc is one of them for sure). Last bitcoin bubble we have seen litecoin pump from 1$ to 45$ in 3 weeks, imagine what could arrive to XC with 5 times less coins produced and better technology.

XC over 50$/coin before the end of 2014 isn't a dream.

For altcoins trader  6month is an eternity, for smart money it's nothing. Actually  we haven't a lot of smart money in altcoin market wich explain the low valu of XC.

 

Litecoin is not dieing... all it would take is for coinbase to add LTC to see LTC back in the 20-40 dollar range... ASIC just came out for LTC which shows a huge infrastructure being built around litecoin.. trust me LTC is not dead.. its "stable" which some would consider a good thing
1476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 02:51:53 AM
Go here and tell them to update the information regarding XC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579901.new#new

The information is for what shows on here: http://www.cryptocoinrank.com/

thx


I have sent request to both crtyptocoinrank and coinmarketcap in regards to the logo. They will be updated soon.
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tank you
1477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 19, 2014, 12:16:37 AM
Go here and tell them to update the information regarding XC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579901.new#new

The information is for what shows on here: http://www.cryptocoinrank.com/

thx
1478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█|ANN|█★WWW.CRYPTOCOINRANK.COM | Cryptocurrency Charts by Market Capitalization on: June 19, 2014, 12:14:57 AM
Your information for XC coin is a little out of date -

there is a new logo

also the coin DID launch with new features unique to any other coin and was the FIRST to do so - it was the first coin to launch with an anonymous De Centralized mixing service built in

XC also launched with creative useful feature to increase its chance of success

It should have the 2 icons updated to the right of it to show these values within the XC coin.

XC is a privacy platform - not just a coin.


1479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 18, 2014, 10:52:29 PM
the fact that the whale choose to show his coins in the XC market was good enough for me
1480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 18, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
can anyone confirm or deny our slogan is XC - "Privacy Platform" ?

Indeed.... That is our slogan.

and are you an official member of the XC team to make that decision ? 
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