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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 29, 2014, 03:11:24 AM
On the blockchain explorer I looked up two wallets I have. One lists the two transactions and the total, the other lists only a total balance but there were three transactions. Is there a reason for this?

http://explorer.cryptonite.info/?address=CWKcW3XCGe6VntryY7pEmKv8cs51TWMUZj
Should show three transactions.
Hmmm looks like you've found some sort of bug in the block explorer. I'll look into it shortly.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 27, 2014, 04:51:17 AM
NO. Its because those shitcoins release new stuff all the time even if its just announcements, good coins think they can not do anything and people will magically buy the coins.
No, it's because those shitcoin people spend all their time and money on promotion and marketing so that their premined coins can be sold for a hefty profit. All they care about is whether or not people buy their coin and push the price up. And it's sad because many of the top ranking coins are not there due to their innovation or merit, but simply because they had a strong marketing campaign.

My main focus is not promotion because I don't treat Cryptonite like a business. But I am doing what I can to spread awareness of Cryptonite, I've done several interviews and most recently my goal is to get XCN accepted by one of the altcoin payment processors so that I can create a market around XCN and give people a reason to own XCN apart from just holding and hoping the price goes up.

Cryptonite is and always will be an open source community project, not a company owned by anyone. There will never be a "Cryptonite Foundation" because history shows that those types of centralized organizations are easily corrupted and are the antithesis of P2P technology. My point is, this is a community effort, don't expect us to do everything. We are all responsible for the success of Cryptonite.
343  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BitShop - digital bitcoin shop script [PHP/MYSQL] (v1.0.1) on: October 26, 2014, 12:33:16 PM
Any news here? :-)))
Well at the moment I'm trying to strike up a deal with an altcoin payment processor. If any payment processor is willing to accept XCN payments, then in return I will add support for their gateway to BitShop, which will bring them a lot of new users. The main goal is to create a marketplace around XCN but it would benefit all parties involved. BitShop stores will be able to easily accept a large range of different altcoins instead of just Bitcoin. I've thought a lot about it and adding a separate API for each new altcoin I want to add to BitShop is simply not a feasible task, especially when most altcoin web API's are not using secure connections. In order to make BitShop support a large range of altcoins I need to add support for an altcoin payment processor.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 26, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
One good idea I have is to add XCN support to my BitShop script so that all existing shops using my script can sell products for XCN. I will ask an altcoin payment gateway such as coinpayments.net to accept XCN and in return I will add support for their gateway to BitShop, which will bring them a lot of new users. That way I can create a fairly good marketplace around XCN quite quickly.
Well I was unable to contact coinpayments.net directly because they don't provide a contact email address, but I was able to use their coin request form and told them that I have a proposal which will benefit all parties involved. Hopefully they will respond soon, but if anyone knows of any other good cryptocurrency payment processors which accept a wide range of coins, let me know and I will send them the same proposal.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 25, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
When running the configure step of the build, I got a warning about my Berkeley DB embedded database system version.  In fact, I had to rerun configure with the flag "--with-incompatible-bdb".  The build wants version 4.8, but on my system I have version 5.3.28-2.  How important is this?  Do I need to go to the trouble of rolling back my Berkeley DB to the older version?
I believe 5.3 should work, give it a try and see. But to be on the safe side you should build with 4.8.

Finally, I would like to offer to help out.  Is the BTC address on page one of this thread still valid for contributions?  I'll send what I can.  Also, I have about 18,000 LTB coin I am willing to donate if you find that useful (to go toward a sponsor token or for some other purpose).
You can donate to either of these addresses:
XCN: CcFE7EWRuBVe4FrJoVJyEeW5GvZZ4spNqN
BTC: 15XvdRtPpon1wxx4SeNbR4WZtU5mdE8A5S

Do you think it would be useful to repeat the XCN announcement on the LTB community forum to raise awareness?  I really want to see this succeed.
I'm hesitant to repost the XCN announcement on other forums because I don't have the time to keep track of multiple Cryptonite threads on different websites. I'd rather most discussion was kept to this thread until I create our own official forum. But if you want to repost the XCN announcement in other places don't let me stop you.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 25, 2014, 04:42:56 AM
Bitcoin should have many more transactions though, and that's where most of the work of validating should be.

Figuring this out would likely require some profiling but it sounds to me like something about Cryptnite is bogging down a bit here.
Well I believe the blocks are downloaded and validated in a simultaneous fashion, so it's not quite that simple. I think it's mainly just because there are faster Bitcoin seed nodes which allow the blockchain to be downloaded at very fast speeds but there are several different factors playing a role.
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 24, 2014, 06:20:55 PM
I'm new to XCN. I downloaded the wallet this morning, but now it's stuck on being eight days behind, after leaving it open all day. I'm using win64_cryptonite-qt_14091021.exe.
Try running -resync and adding the nodes listed below. If all else fails then sync using cryptonited and then once fully synced switch to cryptonite-qt. For some reason the sync process in Qt seems to be a bit buggy, especially on Windows.

47.55.147.150:8253
174.6.46.186:8253
66.45.239.67:8253
217.129.141.209:8253
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 24, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
I open my wallet only maybe once a week, but it's syncing pretty fast, can't complain about the speed here.
Like I said, unless you wait several weeks you wont really notice any advantage. Syncing once per week is the same as syncing once per day overall because you're not skipping any blocks unless you wait more than a week. If you wait more than a week before resyncing that's when you will see a difference because it will only download the last 10k blocks. Stay offline for 10 years and try to sync and it will still only download the last 10k blocks (and account tree), but that doesn't mean it's missing any data, it can still be a full node and do anything a full node can do because of the way the account tree summarizes the entire state of all addresses and since transactions become instantly spent when applied to the account tree.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 22, 2014, 05:21:42 AM
Ok I have finally finished a job I was doing for a client, so now I should have much more time to work on Cryptonite stuff. One good idea I have is to add XCN support to my BitShop script so that all existing shops using my script can sell products for XCN. I will ask an altcoin payment gateway such as coinpayments.net to accept XCN and in return I will add support for their gateway to BitShop, which will bring them a lot of new users. That way I can create a fairly good marketplace around XCN quite quickly.

AT specifies a virtual machine that can read and write data to the blockchain of which it is connected.  It's pretty simple conceptually.

Yes, "a virtual machine that can read and write data to the blockchain of which it is connected" is pretty simple.  

It's magic.   Grin
But the question I have is how does it store that data in the blockchain? I'm guessing it must use normal tx's which use scripts, which clearly cannot work with Cryptonite. If it's just storing extra arbitrary data in the blockchain then it may be possible. We have a message field attached to all transactions so we may be able to use that, but I believe the length of the message field is limited to 64 characters so the AT programs would be limited in length.

EDIT: just did some brief reading on AT and it seems to me like it would require rather large changes and extensions to our protocol. It would also require extra data related to the execution states of AT's to be stored in each block and it's highly problematic to prune old AT data. It seems like a fairly complicated and bulky system which would hurt the ultra scalable system that we have now.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 19, 2014, 05:48:05 AM
@chompyZ: the following quote is not quite true. I don't know exactly how the AT stuff works, but I highly doubt it's compatible with the mini-blockchain system because we don't have any scripting capabilities, let alone Turing complete scripting.

What it does is basically the same as Ethereum *except* that AT has been designed to be added to *any blockchain system*.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 18, 2014, 04:09:08 AM
I let my Bitcoin wallet and Cryptonite wallet get out of sync by eight days. I then started them both at the same time to see which would finish syncing first.
I was expecting Bitcoin to lose badly.
Bitcoin won by six minutes.  
Huh
Well in that case there isn't much difference between what they need to do. If you wait like a few weeks then Cryptonite should definitely win, because Cryptonite will only attempt to download the last 10k blocks, but Bitcoin will attempt to download every block it has missed. Bitcoin may have been faster in your test simply because there are more bitcoin seed nodes or because Cryptonite lost a few minutes downloading the trie.

EDIT: actually it's also very important to remember that Cryptonite has a block rate of 1 per minute where as Bitcoin is 1 every 10 minutes, and that's probably why Bitcoin won in your test, because there were less blocks to download. But like I said Cryptonite will still win if you wait a few weeks and run the same test because Cryptonite only needs to download the last 10k blocks regardless of how long you stay offline.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 16, 2014, 07:45:10 AM
These steps were the result of BCX the evil supervillain forcing evolution through a threatened Timewarp attack.
Well I'm not sure what they mean when they say "a loosely distributed checkpoint alert system" but I'm guessing it's some sort of decentralized checkpoint system, which might be a plausible solution to the Secret Chain Attack. We could release a new checkpoint hash each week but then users would have to trust our decision about which chain is the right one and that could introduce an unwanted level of centralization, which is why a decentralized or "distributed checkpoint alert system" could be an interesting solution. But when they say "loosely distributed" it gives me the impression there's still some level of centralization in the Monero checkpoint alert system. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of technical information on how it works.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 16, 2014, 04:34:27 AM
I gave it a listen; great job BF.  Nice to hear the voice behind the coin, and especially delightful to discover BF is a fellow Discordian (FNORD)!   Smiley
Lol yeah I was expecting him to edit out that first part of the convo but I'm glad he didn't, everyone should read Principia Discordia.

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The fascinating (Hidden Troll Chain Surprise) attack vector vs scalability trade-off discussion prompts me ask about the applicability/possibility/priority of incorporating Monero's advanced new checkpointing techniques into XCN.
I did mention "community checkpoints" some where near the end of the discussion. Where can I read more about this Monero checkpointing?
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 06:18:46 PM
For example, Counterparty has an in-built decentralized exchange which uses the Order Message. These messages could be offloaded to an MBC side-chain for fast order matching. Periodically, the results of the trades on the side-chain could still be embedded in the Bitcoin Blockchain like they are currently doing.

Again, I need to stress that I am talking about using both the Bitcoin Blockchain and an MBC at the same time to complement each other. The MBC would ephemerally store recent data and offload the balance of this data back to the Bitcoin Blockchain.
Ok that makes it much clearer for me. The account tree structure is particularly useful for acting as a dynamic balance sheet as it does in Cryptonite, and if you need to store that type of data in a decentralized way then a MBC type of scheme is probably a good approach. I'll listen to that Beyond Bitcoin discussion you linked to when I have some time and learn more about Counterparty.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
Yep you got it exactly. Haven't thought about implications of accounts with same pubkeyhash. Anyway it is nothing revolutionary but still pretty neat I reckon Smiley
Well having human readable addresses is actually a pretty big problem in cryptocurrency and the solution you suggested is workable, so I agree it's pretty neat. Maybe if we had thought of that solution back when we were thinking about this issue we would have implemented it, but the changes necessary to make it work are too extensive to apply them now.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
I edited my above post with an example account structure you may not have seen:

Account{
    uint160 AccountKey (either pubkeyhash or namehash)
    uint160 PubKeyHash (only required for namehash)
    uint64 Balance
}
Yeah I see what you're saying and I think it could work, but not with our current protocol obviously. The AccountKey in your example should never change since it's used for lookup, so we would need a special type of transaction which would allow users to create a new account in the account tree using a custom AccountKey. This would essentially allow multiple accounts to exist which all have the same pubkeyhash but use a different namehash and that could be problematic. And as I mentioned you also need that extra redundant field which is only required when using a namehash. But I guess that's not such a bad trade off for having human readable addresses.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Oh yeah I think I get you. I'm still pretty clueless about how the trie works, but what if instead of aliases for an account the names were legitimate account addresses? Basically you wouldn't differentiate between a namehash and a pubkeyhash, either could be used for trie lookup but they represent different types of accounts. A 'name' account would have a stored pubkey (or pubkeyhash), but you would only be able to pay to the name. To spend you provide the name and a sig (verifiable against the account's pubkey), so again the trie lookup would be the same namehash/pubkeyhash search. Would that work or have I been up too long?
Well it seems to me what you are suggesting would have the same difficulty as generating vanity addresses because the public key and address is derived from the private key. I think you sort of need to understand how account lookup works to understand the problem. Something like your idea may possibly work but it would probably require extra redundant data to be stored in each account and I don't think you'd be able to change the alias once you created it.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 05:07:05 PM
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Let me know what you think. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Well my main question would be, what are Counterparty transactions/operations and do they use scripting? The main idea of the MBC scheme is that we can forget about old transactions because we don't link together tx's with scripts. If old Counterparty transactions cannot be forgotten in such a way then a MBC type solution may not be appropriate.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Finally got some time to work on my open source xcn pool. Should be looking for beta testers in a couple of days if anyone is interested. There will be a 2% fee with all proceeds going to the cryptonite fund.
Awesome news, CasualSam is the man.

Here is a separate idea about aliased account names:

A pretty obvious extension of the account tree system is to offer aliased accounts. Basically someone could associate an alias with a cryptonite address and then payments could be sent to the alias instead of the address.

So instead of:

SEND 10 XCN TO CYsvPpb2YuyAib5ay9GJXU8j3nwohbttTz

You would have:

SEND 10 XCN TO xcn:bitfreak

A couple of problems with this approach: account tree bloat because of a potential land-grab of aliases and cybersquatting of aliases (anyone could register xcn:microsoft for instance). For these and possibly other reasons I don’t think this is a good idea.
We actually had some fairly in-depth discussions about that idea but ultimately decided it wasn't tenable. The main problem is that when you need to lookup an account in the account tree with only an alias you have to basically search through every account until you find it because you can't use the fast lookup properties of the trie structure. The same sort of issue also applies when registering an alias, other nodes basically have to check every other registered alias and make sure the alias in question hasn't already been registered. I believe there were also some other issues with the idea but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: October 15, 2014, 03:32:59 PM
Somebody talk to me about side-chains and merged-mining in the context of Cryptonite. This is tremendously exciting!

I would like to launch a Mini-Blockchain side-chain of the Counterparty Protocol. This MBC would be Complementary to the embedded Counterparty Protocol data in the Bitcoin Blockchain. This side-chain wouldn't necessarily have to store all of the Counterparty Protocol data.

See here for more information - https://forums.counterparty.io/discussion/418/the-crossparty-protocol#latest
Well to be honest I don't know much about merged mining or Counterparty so I'll have to do some reading. Are you suggesting something which would merge with Cryptonite or an independent application of MBC technology to make Counterparty more scalable?
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