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all versions of phoenix miner detect my RX 590 (detected correctly on Windows, in the driver and in MSI afterburner) as an RX 5700XT so there is some kind of problem that makes the card crash very 2 days or so and having issues with the core speed.

The speed drops below 1000mhz and never goes up but MSI AB applies correctly the voltage.

Any idea?

Hello guys.

I haven't been able to make the card hold 850mv and around 1300mhz on the core while mining,
It doesn't matter the driver used, or even using the amd radeon software as suggested. The issue is not on mem temps, but on core temps.

The card behaves as if it was overheating but only while mining, but the core is running around 65ºC with 90% fans. Checked on MSI and on amd radeon software. Only when the temp goes below 55ºC is when the card pushes a bit more on the core (around 1150 or so giving around 50mh/s). So it's basically as if the card thought it's overheating and for that reason it should undervolt itself really hard.

It's so weird because it only undervolts hard while mining. You can play games with it at full RX 5700XT core and everything ok.
It does this weird issue with every miner i tried, phoenix miner and RTM. even on different Pcs.

The final conclusion of this weird issue, seems to be that due to the aftermarket fan replacement that i had to install since the original died, maybe there is an interaction between sensors and gpu bios and the card cannot check fan correctly so assumes it's not working ok and undervolts while mining.

I know it sounds weird, but there is absolutely no explanation to this. I'm almost sure than in winter it will run as intended due to low temps in the room (now around 35ºC and around 26ºC in winter).

Since ETH is going PoS i'm not wasting more time on this, but i would gladly try something not said in this long post if someone has an idea.

Cheers.

Hello.

thanks for the answers.

I only have driver installed. No AMD software, so there shouldn't be any interacctions. So i guess the result will be the same even with radeon software.

I also tried the second bios slot, because this card has dual bios, and it still does the same. It's so weird.

I've tried TRM latest version. The same. it goes to 750mv and then i can manage to get to 850mv but the core will not go above 1150mhz no matter what you place on MSI Afterburner. if you press reset button, it will not return to stock settings.

Can it be an issue with MSI and that card?? it worked for at least 1 year no problem with this same setup. Can MSI hold a log for one card and don't allow it to go higher for whatever reason??

Hello mates

Red dragon cards are not said to have really good fans, so i had to replace them since one was not working.

I also changed thermal pads. Because original fans are really expensive and hard to get, i went for "compatible" ones. The Compatible one lasted less than 2 weeks. I still can't figure what was wrong with it.

Well, for sometime i just mined with this "only one fan brand new" fan and pointed a case fan 120mm to the fan not working to help cool the card but something weird was happening. The card could not hold the numbers I placed on MSI Afterburner. My settings are 850mv/1350mhz core/1820mem 85% fan.
Phoenix miner was used. the card underclocked itself harder than the numbers placed on MSI ,so they went for 750mv/1000mhz ish/1800/85% fan.
I thought this reduction was due to high temps (remember, only 1 out of 2 fans were working). Card was at 80ºC

Today i received new fans. So mounted the card, and went to mining as normal.
But the card still underclocks to 750mv/1000mhz ish/1820mhz and 85%fan.

Temps are OK (not more than 70 for core).


The issue comes with phoenix miner. When i place the numbers on MSI, this card that begins at stock 2000mhz/1200mv/1750/auto , once i put the numbers of my other cards on MSI, this card automatically goes to the 750mv numbers.

Tried changing the riser, the cable, the adapter, DDUU+ new drivers, older version of phoenix (using 6.2 but i was using 5.9 aswell), tried new power cables on other PCIE slot on the PSU and new pcie slot.  Drivers were installed only. Nothing else. Updated also MSI from 4.6.3 to latest version.

no luck, so i put it on my testbench. The card could run perfectly with Valley Benchmark at stock settings for 20 minutes no issue and also i could apply the undervolt settings ( 1350mhz/850mv/1820mhz mem/85% fan and run the benchmark with no issues with the card holding the desired values.
But the moment i begin mining, even on the bench, it would gradually go down from stock numbers to 750mv/1000ish mhz/ in a matter of 30 minutes. Phoenix miner , btw.

it's as if the card was being affected by autotunning in a weird way.

The weird thing is that in this rig i have more RX 5700XT but those are not affected. It doesn't matter the order in which i begin putting the settings on MSI for the other cards. Eventually this card will go to the 750mv values reducing its 56MH to 46MH at most since core should stay above 1280mhz to hold 56MH on almost all RX 5700XT

I also tried +20% power. nothing. Also adding voltage doesn't help. I managed to increase voltage to 850mv but the core locks at around 1100mhz on the core ,both settings on MSI. And if you press the reset button on MSI afterburner, the card once it goes to 750mv, it will not return to stock settings. It locks there.

Also tried uninstalling the card several times (in case there was some kind of log telling the card to hard-undervolt. Still no solution. I even disconected the card from the rig, turn it on, mine with it like 30 min, and then turn it off, put the card again and run the miner. Nothing. It continuously happening the same. 

The only solution by now is to switch to TRM and give it a try.

In any case. Someone has any idea of what can be happening??? Thanks in advance.

The most interesting thing that thay guy doesn't know, is that i've been mining since late 2017 and while bear market i closed 50% of my rigs because i couldn't afford paying the electricity of all my gear.

This guys know nothing. They will just get obliterated after ETH goes PoS and then they will cry, because they believe mining will survive. These ignorants that are still investing on this dead business just deserve what they will get.

Once ETH goes PoS only mining rigs with free electricity will be able to mine. The rest will have to shut down. That's probably 95% of all the people mining around the world ETH and the rest of coins.

Why would you care about this GPUS?? Why would anyone care about mining on any gpu in the upcoming years?? You will not be able to mine with profit. Probably never again.

Once ETH goes PoS, which can happen in just 6 months, that ASIC ETH miner will be unuseable. You will not be able to mine with it, and you will not have to ROI, not even on a pool. Let's not talk then about solo mining.

That's dumb. Really Dumb. And ignorant , tbh.

It's a fake video.

Back in the good days of 1060s you could make 24MH/s. With the current difficulty and increase in Dag File, the best you can do is 21MH pushing those samsung mem to the limit.

Only dumb people start mining right now. Those guys deserve bankrupt , for ignorants.

The smartest thing to do right now is to do maths. Calculate how much money you are winning vs the amount of money you could make selling the mining RIG. And if you can make more money just selling, then do it, because once ETH goes PoS , every mining rig in the world that needs paid electricity to function, will have to shut down and sell at 50% of MSRP, even lower, because of the amount of millions of GPUS in sell.

Be smart. Sell the rig before it's too late.

Just sell them now.

You will be able to recover almost all your money. If you continue mining, probably at a loss, you will get REKT. And if you wait to sell them until ETH goes PoS, you´ll be lucky if you can get them sold for half of what you paid for them

Be smart and sell. If you want, you can use that money to buy the coins you want instead.

RTX 3050 will all feature LHR, so basically you will get 14MH at very low wattage, with, considering the difficulty on the network, it just makes no sense.

You will never be able to ROI the investment before eTH goes PoS and the rest of coins will remain extremelly unprofitable after ETH goes PoS.

Mining is dead. But you don't know it yet.

Considering in 6 months ETH will be unmineable and the rest of the coins will remain extremelly unprofitable due to difficulty, you have to be really dumb to start mining at this point.

You will probably not even be able to ROI your equipment in 6 months, and more than likely you will have to sell it at half the price you paid for it if you need the money.

NEW MINERS are the NEW MORONS.....

Mining is already dead. It died the day ETH announced the roadmap for ETH 2.0 and going PoS just back a few months ago. They are planning on doing it, and they will do it. It will take 4 or 6 or even 10 months more (i think it will come in just about 5 months)

let's face it. The pump the youtubers have been giving to mining, the enormous amounts of videos in Youtube showing you how to do it (destroying the access skill necessary to set up a rig) and plus telling them how much money they were making for doing nothing but sitting in front of their computer watching their bank account grow bigger, HAS DESTROYED all the rest. Every single one of you is making less money every day, since we are getting less ETH everyday. There is no point in telling you my example. Everyone knows this is a fact.

I've been mining since 2017, with a natural -50% during bear market in 2018 when my electricty cost was higher than my income.

PoS is going to come, and THERE IS NO COIN that can cope with the atrocious amount of hashrate that it's already in ETH. No coin will survive the flood, and only those with already roi'd solar panels will be able to continue mining. Mining goes where there is a coin profitable. ANY , ANY , ANY COIN profitable will get absolutely recked the day after ETH goes PoS. This is a fact.

80 to 90% of all the small miners will have to capitulate, unless mining at a loss hoping for that coin to pump. Mining follows prices. Mining does not create value. it's the other way round. Value attracts mining. Not mining attracts value. If this was the case, every PoW coin would have big prices. And this is not what we see.  Plus the remaining PoW projects are just either too small, too undervalued or just too young to show a potential increase in value.

There will be no mineable coin that can do what ETH has done. Miners will NEVER EVER SEE anything like what we are living. 2022 will be our final. Now , the real deal , at this point is to sell your hardware at highe prices calculating how much money you can make mining ETH until it goes PoS to how much you can get by selling them. I have cards that i bought for 300$ that i can now sell for 900$.

If you think you are going to live from mining once ETH goes PoS i would say you are either an ignorant, or a mad guy. This is no future with this enormous amount of Hashrate. The flood will destroy it all.

Good luck.

There is already a problem with Fees. They are really low, and have been really low for the past 2 weeks at least, this means something is going on.

EIP 1559 is going to reduce fees at least 50% so you can expect a drop in your income near to 50% less profit.

So basically: a 3070 makes around 5$ after electricity, but it will go to 2,5$ in just two months.
Do the maths. You are NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ROI by the end of the year and then, ETH is going full PoS so you'll not be able to mine.

So its an obvious NO.

In fact, it's an obvious NO for almost all new gpus out there.

514TH right now on ETH.

this is insanely fucking madness.

anyone having issues with RX 6800??

i deserve that profit for all the hard times. And probably you are just one of those greedy bastards aswell that have entered now the pools to get the profit that others helped to create.

i will answer you, straight away.

To begin with, i've been mining since mid 2017. i did it at that moment without knowing it could get it's ATH in January 2018. I ate myselft all the bear season in 2018-2019 and part of 2020, mining with very little profit. I did it, first because i wanted this technology to succeed, and the first important thing to do on a PoW coin, is to mine to support it. Every year with my hashrate in bear market (like 90$ an ETH coin) i lost money that i had to put from my wallet. i hated myself for having entered this market and i was at a point of selling the hardware. Finally, thank god, i didn't do it.

Now, that prices are really high, greedy guys, probably like you come like flies to try to get the most profit out of it, once all the rest, the real FIGHTERS held the coin working and secure from 51% attacks with their hashrates. Now that all "old" miners, like me, did the HARD, THE TOUGH AND UNPROFITABLE WORK, there are GUYS THAT ARE TAKING THE PROFIT FROM US.

I will explain it to you as an example: Imagen that you have to prepare meal. You have to go to the supermarket, buy all the food, get home, prepare it, cook it, put it on the table, and then, suddenly some big amount of MOFOS that saw your food enter your house and begin eating your food like real scammers. Those greedy guys taking advantage of you.

We are not talking about "small" amounts of people. We are talking about x2,5 on total hashrate in 7 months, and at these speeds, there will be like 600TH EVEN BEFORE POS IS IMPLEMENTED.

Do you know WHY I KNOW THIS PEOPLE ENTERING NOW ARE GREEDY BAST*RDS?? Because they are investing on a thing that will likely go PoS by the end of the year, with a price cut on July of over 40% on Fees with the implementation of EIP-1559. And they still invest? Why? Because this people know NOTHING ABOUT THE COIN, WHATS GOING ON OR WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN SOON. They just care about money as much as possible which is why they are greedy B*stards.


ETH hashrate is growing so fast, that devs have said they will rush the implementation on PoS because they need to DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM MINING, because the more coins are mined, the more coins will be in the market, the less valuable they will be just for a matter on the amount of circulating coins.


The ETH hashrate has more than doubled from August 2020 to now. And this movement is related specifically due to greed people eating MY EFFORT AND THE EFFORT OF THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE KEPT MINING DURING VERY HARD TIMES. Those greedy people have destroyed part of my effort, a well deserved profit for my months through tough times.