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I hope you made right decision. You seem to be good man gl. I'll see you on tables. |
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Confirmed Micon is playing on Stars right now, with a DonkDown avatar, from Antigua and Barbuda. He is a professional poker player, so I guess that makes sense. Most of us are looking for somewhere to play.    You really believe that Mikon play $3 tournaments?  |
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I cannot connect too.  |
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Looks great. I have only one thing. You completely forget cash game players. It was good opportunity to do something like anybody who earn 100 krill will be eligible for the 10 btc freeroll. As it is, you rewarding freeroll players with bigger freeroll. |
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WOW. That's impressive and expensive. Thanks. |
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aab intentionally slow plays the bubble of krillroll which is also against the rules. Though, I guess aab does seals a service by creating less overlay.
Against what rules? |
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I copied this from 2+2,the player seems to be from Germany. I think SWC should serve poker players world wide and try slowly expand gtd tournaments to early hours.
Re: Seals With Clubs-Bitcoin poker room
So it's 11am on a sunday, I'm loggin to seals and what do I see in the mtt section? (BTC=326$)
10:00 - 5 Chip Deep 75 GTD - with 9 players so 30 chip overlay ( = 1,63$ BI with 24$ gtd, 14,67$ BI)
11:00 - no game
12:00 - Boozehound Freeroll - I am not playing these (0/54 plrs regged) - 1 Chip per Entrant = 0,33$ Value
12:30 - 1 Chip normal - no GTD = 0,33$ BI
13:00 - Boozehound PLO Freeroll
13:30 - 2 Chip Rebuy no GTD = 0,66$ BI
14:00 - no game
15:00 - 5 chip slow no GTD = 1,63$ BI
17:00 - 20 Chip Deep - 160 GTD = 6,52$ BI with 52,16$ GTD
This is awful.
1. lower the 75GTD to 45GTD since this tourney kinda always has overlay. Rather than overlaying the money away, put these into the smaller games with no GTD.
2. put a GTD on the 1 chip and 2 chip. With them being less than 1$ Buy-In, it's absurd not to have a GTD on them. Make the GTD for 9 players, this looks appealing for regging but doesn't produce huge overlays. On the 5 chip tournament with no gtd I'd try 25 chip as a guarantee and may rise it to 45.
3. 7 hours between two games with a gtd? That sucks. Looks bad for everyone looking at the schedule
4. w/o the Boozehound Freerolls, there should be a game running every hour. Even if it's only a 1 chip. The timeframe between 10-12.30 and 13.30-15.00 and 15.00-17.00 is completely empty.
Last edited by Uhrenknecht; Today at 05:39 AM.
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I have the same problem, with SWC windows client, it is almost useless for me. I am forced to play on browser.
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1) If SWC pay players in top tier krillrolls more that they rake from them it doesn't make business sense. I don't know if that's the case.
That's why I ask SWC to take a look at it. I never said that loyal players should not be awarded, that's what rakeback is for, and yes, some freerolls. With that being said SWC should not be life time cash cow for players that don't play anymore, or buy accounts and rent them for krillrolls, for that reason inactive accounts should be excluded. Again I don't know how many accounts like this exist, but likely more that a few. SWC promo page say "The Krill promotion is subject to change"
2) Primary reasons for players to play on SWC still remain the same, SWC spotless pay out record, low rake, fairness etc.
but more immediate reward, than current krill system could be appropriate.
SWC should consider something like monthly krillroll for anybody who earn certain amount krill in that month.
Of course to pay for that SWC would need to lower little bit the top tiers krillrolls price pool. Lol, I want hear reaction on that.
3) Judging from donk4u reaction, it seems I am correct,
Here is summary his reasons :
a) I don't play ring games so I have no right to suggest changes, if I earn 50 000 krill then I can make suggestions.
b) he slaved to get the 50 k krill and had very little rakeback and other sites offer 27% rakeback.( he neglected to mention that those sites
have 5% rake and most US facing sites don't offer rakeback any more.
c) I am an idiot.
The rest is just insults attempts because he cannot come up wit anything what make sense.
non of it is really valid reason why current system shouldn't be adjusted.
This is my last post on this matter.
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lubozki doesn't play ring I played a ton of ring at todays prices to get to 50k krill you change the krillrolls seals can eat shit. I paid 180 a week in rake one month in a row. I love how all the peops who bitch about krill are the ones who contribute fucking nothing to the site rake. Seals mgmt. should stop the people who buy multiple accounts to flood the krillrolls its an abomination. Don't penalize your fucking loyal players who slaved for their krill like me for instance.
Luboski thinks its fucking fair for me to have krilled at todays prices like a fucking slave and have 50k krill taken away? Fuck you to infinity .
Lol, thank you for your kind words. Seriously now, you actually agree with me in your post that something should change. Maybe access to krillroll should depend also how much krill the account earn last month so inactive account cannot play the krillroll. |
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tyvm for suggestions. IMO it is this active dialogue that makes SwC what it is today. From a player perspective, I am most excited for the following features: 1) MTT chop system [all players at final table must click the "agree to talk chop" check-box, then software enters "chop talking making mode" where all remaining players need to unanimously agree on terms. IMO this will generate hilarious chat at the very least. 2) OFC, Baduecey, Badacey, mixed games - I think all of us hard core degens want this bad. This will take a while to build, but the Doctor is in, and he's hard at work. 3) MTT breaks on the :55's - it's on the top of the dev list, with over 9000 other items 4) bad beat jackpots & other crazy shit we could do soon - SwC has dealt ~28M hands or so, maybe more because the hand counter was reset a few times in the early days.... but it's *almost* to the point where a bad beat jackpot would make sense. This is a much-requested feature and I think we can get really creative with it in a year or so after other games are built. Having a "wheel-wheel" badeucey jackpot is much more attractive to me than the regular 'ole hold'em jackpot - but that could become epic when delimited in bitcoin - so I feel SwC will eventually have to do that. IMO many-level bad beat jackpot, not just one thing triggering it - IMO also could be eventually expanded into "full shenanigans" tables with the same bad-beat promo extra rake, but maybe returned in really crazy ways, like any AA beat by a lower pair wins X%, full house over full house wins some small % while quads beat by str8 flush wins the big %. Maybe nut flush vs. full house smaller jackpot and other small distributions of a pool that keeps building and paying out. While I'm just spitballing here what about a tournament system that actually gives you a "One Time" ? exact rules are up for debate. I respectfully disagree. The focus should be primarily on new reliable no lagging software with basic futures like late registration, synchronize break, wait for BB in a ring games, player notes, satellite tournaments,add some colors to the client,so you can highlight meager MTT, reclassify stakes, so we can actually use the fitter(currently all stakes are micro). How about these things? Will we see any of that in foreseeable future? Take hard look on a Krill system and adjust it, ( should provide incentive for seals to play and make business sense ) currently high tier accounts are money losers for SWC. The system is not fair for new players. Of course players want bad beat jackpot. They want anything free.( more freerolls etc.) |
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micon bussy with the wsop and since micon is free money............... pretty sure seals mgmt abandoned 2 plus 2 because of advertising issues if wanted to participate would have to pay hefty dollars to 2 plus 2 if don't participate can keep thread open and older players regs can help newbies there which is what is happening
Glitch is usually accessible and replies to any concerns in feedback just type #feedback and most likely you will get an answer within 12 hours
I usually do get a response if I email admin unless its blatant cheating they just ignore me haha but for real
I agree though does feel like we were abandoned to a degree.
Seals chat,email etc. is not substitute for discussion where multiple parties can participate, that's why some people go to grindabit. As for WSOP, I was talking about much longer period. I see steady decline in Seals management interest. |
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Where is FreeMoney? Where is Mikon?
It is troubling for me, that nobody from Seals bather address players concerns any more, and are no part of public discussion (bitcointalk, grindabit, 2+2).
There is no place where you can go, post your idea or concern and get answer or opinion from Seals for everybody to see.
If I compare it with situation a year ago it seems like Seals management lost interest.
Issues like krill reward system, software etc. should be discuss publicly with Seals participation. If Seals management don't care, why should players?
Mikon start lately OFFICIAL "Crowdsource MTT Schedule" Thread on grindabit and soon disappear, so did his newly appointed assistant Glitch.
xxHaZ posted his concerns about Seals traffic and some ideas how to help on grindabit, but nobody bother to answer. Seals should support players like this, not ignore them.
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♣ Affiliates are prohibited from providing any form of rakeback to players.
Mikon, what incentive the new player have, to sign on Seals under Affiliate?
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the fact is that NEO is not accepting fiat deposits right now, right? They said, that's because they don't want to expose their customers to the market volatility caused by Gox. But its 2 weeks from goxxing now and rate is stable. Maybe its bullshit and they just can't take fiat, because they need proper license to handle customers fiat and they don't have it? Could this be right? They're so quiet about this.
That's my suspicion as well. |
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Late registration will make possible for Seals offer higher gtd., that's a good thing. It is very difficult to create larger MTT with 5% rake. Mistakes are costly (Saturday 4.2K gtd had more than 1 K overlay last week) and take long time to recover. Sry MIKON |
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Since the grand opening, has any money been deposited in NeoBee through personal accounts?
In business accounts?
Is bitcoin being sold/bought?
In Cyprus?
In 199 other countries?
If not, are there other revenue streams enabling Neo & Bee to keep the lights on? I enjoy reading PDFs as much as the next guy, but I'm pretty sure those aren't big moneymakers.
These are legitimate questions. Can anybody post answer with proof. |
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If you're running a business you shouldn't expect to stay anonymous.
many feel differently in the bitcoin community. Take a guy like dooglus, I trust him but he's anon. What about cloudbet & bitcoinvideocasino? Trust both of them, they choose to run the sites anon. you are saying this is wrong in general to do? Well, I definitely think people knowing who the owner is makes it more likely the owner stays honest. If he's honest and plans on staying that way he should have no issue with people knowing who he is. Sure, if people have his contact info, he might a call in the middle of the night if his service crashed or something, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. There are others reasons to stay anon. What you did is wrong. |
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Lol , that's beautiful.  |
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