So, just to be completely clear— You are, in fact, refusing to refund my payment?
I want to be complete clear on this because you have ignored every certified letter I (and apparently other people have sent you) and you seem to also be saying that you already have— which is entirely untrue. You have not refunded me in any way shape or form, the only response I've received from you at all has been the taunting, insults, and deletion notices here— plus some crazy settlement for a fraction of what I'm out due to your incompetent or deceptive business practices: I am beginning to lean towards deceptive considering your apparent complete lack of interest in seeking a mutually agreeable resolution.
You continue to have an obligation according to our contract to refund my payment after your failure to deliver by the very lenient deadline which you specified. You have ignored all my private efforts to resolve the matter and not responded to any of my communication except here in public. Obviously very few people are going to do business with you with you screwing over people like this. You've claimed that your new pre-orders were flying off the virtual shelves— and maybe there really are enough suckers out there— but I'd guess if you actually were selling product you'd actually be able to make more deliveries and refund some of the people you've screwed over and left completely in the lurch.
Let me be completely clear: HashFast sent you a 105% refund, which you admit to returning because you feel entitled to a ~600% windfall based on nothing more than post-purchase appreciation of your chosen payment medium. You aren't going to get a windfall, no matter how long you pretend to be incapable of understanding the concept of Legal Tender. You know this is true, which explains your failure to get a lawyer. Good job wasting taxpayer money by going the legal route via a complaint to the state of California.  I see you used your moderator powers to unlock the thread and have the last word. Very nice; did you also use your mod powers to ask cedivad to stop spamming us with re-posts? Your own rules say edit-warring moderated threads is not acceptable... |
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Once again, the only reason this thread is locked is because cedavid and others are spamming it.
This is a clear violation of the message they get ever time I delete their hate/rage/troll posts.
If the mods would simply enforce the rules for this subforum, it wouldn't be a problem. But they don't, so it is.
Sorry to all who wish to post here!
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HashFast already offered and paid out 105% refunds.
Offered and paid out? What are you talking about? You have absolutely not refunded me. I wish it were so, I certainly do not enjoy the current state of affairs. You already admitted to receiving and returning a check for 105% of the purchase price. If you really think a court is actually going to give you a $60,000 pony named Windfall, get a lawyer. But you know that's absurd, which is why you've not done so. Anyway, please ask cedivad and the others to stop edit-warring moderated posts. If you won't enforce your own rules for this subforum, maybe it's time to step down and let someone more capable take over. EDIT: Because cedivad is being allowed to break the rules for self-moderated threads, I'll simply lock this one when he is online until the mods give him a warning/time-out/banhammer. |
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HashFast already offered and paid out 105% refunds.
105% of BTC97.95849881 is BTC102.856423751. When is HashFash sending gmaxwell BTC102.856423751 refund? That wouldn't be a refund, that would be a windfall. Ain't gonna happen. |
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Cant wait for the courts to favor the customers and demand 100% refund as per TOS that hashfast has created. And a potetional customer asking real questions about MMP and past batches that have failed to deliver = EPIC FAIL. now delete this post as fast as u can again. Scamfast
HashFast already offered and paid out 105% refunds. No part of the TOS (regardless of gmaxwell's delusions) provides for a ~600% windfall in the event of massive BTC appreciation. No court is going to award such a windfall, so you'll be waiting a very long time. |
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Bad analogy. HashFast ASICs are not made out of sized Bitcoins. Bitcoins payed to HashFast were instantly changed into USD by BitPay.
I, and many other people, did not pay you via Bitpay. That's nice, but the principles are the same. Your coins were changed to fiat in order to build your machine, which was priced in USD. If Bitcoin went to $1.00 you would demand USD and scoff at BTC parity. If Bitcoin went to $1,000,000 it would be even more obvious you expect a pony named windfall to soothe your buyer's remorse. Please ask cedivad to stop reposting deleted messages. He's already made a hater thread (and site!) to preserve his precious hatings; no need to keep spamming them here. |
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Note the date on that is Aug 16 2013. Since then, BTC/USD has fluctuated by ~800%. HashFast does not owe you an 800% windfall, and no judge or arbitrator is going to award you one.
Build a bridge and get over it.
Note Hashfast claims right to violate any past promise with no sense of shame. Promise made seconds ago? Tick tock, invalid already. Now if I'd dropped a quarter ounce wedding ring off at a jeweller for sizing, they said it would be ready in "two weeks" and by the end of the month gold had gone to $10,000 an ounce, I don't think a court in the land would see their "point" that you "only" left a 3 or 4 hundred dollar ring with them, and they shouldn't now "owe" you a $2500 one. Especially if they signed the agreement to return gold to you if they don't manage to size the ring. Bad analogy. HashFast ASICs are not made out of sized Bitcoins. Bitcoins payed to HashFast were instantly changed into USD by BitPay. Sorry to all those feverently wishing for Santa HashFast to bring them a pony named Windfall.  |
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If cedivad mentions his lawyer *and* boasts about his overweening absolute confidence in a court victory, you take two shots. Court? You are such an ignorant. The contract you forced us into says arbitration. It's Morici that will bring you in court and win. Don't worry - i will be there with kilograms of popcorns. Yeah, kilograms, you know what a kilogram is, right? It's one thousand grams. Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #cghOwf2wXMlON4tQ"Forced?" Who "forced" you into the ToS? AFAIK they were entirely voluntary and you were free to agree or disagree to comply with them. "...court and win..." OK! Everybody drink! |
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shouldn't hf test the devices before shipping? the fault rate seems so high! and I wonder how long the RMA takes?
We do test the devices before shipping. But vendor implementation of the USB spec varies. If your laptop doesn't work, try your desktop. A high quality PCIE/PCI USB adapter often helps. If the boards are having trouble running in a chain, try running one or two independently and isolating the problematic board on its own USB and cgminer instance. Always use the latest firmware (0.4) and cgminer (4.1.0). |
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So you guys won't break laws, but you WILL openly lie to your customers to lure them in, trap them and not allow them to get a refund per your own companies words PRIOR to purchasing?
We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware.
As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law.
No, you have NOT refunded all Batch 1 orders. Still awaiting my full BTC refund per this email below: Received: by 10.194.138.199 with SMTP id qs7csp90853wjb; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:38:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.45.102 with SMTP id o66mr196684yhb.13.1376696316262; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: < bitpaysupport@hashfast.com> Hi Jim, Thank you so much for your patience while I got the answer for you, I greatly appreciate it. The answer is if you buy Baby Jet for 51 BitCoins today and it does not ship, you will be refunded the 51 BitCoins you paid. I hope that helps and hope you have a good weekend! Thanks, Cara Note the date on that is Aug 16 2013. Since then, BTC/USD has fluctuated by ~800%. HashFast does not owe you an 800% windfall, and no judge or arbitrator is going to award you one. Build a bridge and get over it. |
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If HF_CL fails at calming down the community newly created accounts of people knowing the law better than our lawyers arrive to the rescue.
Posted from asd, ref#NN3YE2pVR8l1X4iz
I'd like to propose a new drinking game for the forum. Everytime cedivad comes on here and mentions his lawyer, you take a shot. If cedivad mentions his lawyer *and* boasts about his overweening absolute confidence in a court victory, you take two shots. If cedivad says something on-topic (IE about HashFast's 750GH/s EVO) take three shots, but don't worry because that *never* happens!  |
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Did anyone find the self updating rPI image not work for them? I plugged in the HDMI cable and the image boots up archlinux but then shuts down on its own despite having the BJ plugged in. No mention of any flashing of the firmware at all.
Same thing happens to me... The rPi updater doesn't say much in terms of output. I just look at the lights. Plug in the rPi, wait about 20 seconds for it to boot, then plug in the BJ. The lights should start flashing for about 10 seconds. When they stop twinkling, it's finished. |
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Still got one sick board that won't work. Anyone have any ideas on this... cgminer version 4.1.0 - Started: [2014-03-12 16:11:59]
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(5s):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 WU:0.0/m
ST: 3 SS: 0 NB: 2 LW: 157 GF: 0 RF: 0
Connected to us-vip-stratum.btcguild.com diff 512 with stratum as user x
Block: ddfae88e... Diff:3.81G Started: [16:12:56] Best share: 0
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[U]SB device management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
0: HFB 0: 500MHz 0C 33% 0.60V | ZOMBIE/ 0.000h/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 WU:0.0/m
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[2014-03-12 16:13:07] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:13:07] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:13:07] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:13:07] HFB 0: hfa_send_frame: USB Send error, ret 0 amount 0 vs. tx_length 64, retrying
[2014-03-12 16:13:07] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:13:12] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:13:14] HFA 4 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-9) LIBUSB_ERROR_PIPE
[2014-03-12 16:13:14] HFA 4 attempted reset got err:(-5) LIBUSB_ERROR_NOT_FOUND
[2014-03-12 16:13:14] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFA 4
[2014-03-12 16:13:25] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:13:50] HFA 5 HFClearRead usb read err:(-9) LIBUSB_ERROR_PIPE
[2014-03-12 16:13:50] HFA 5 attempted reset got err:(-5) LIBUSB_ERROR_NOT_FOUND
[2014-03-12 16:13:50] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFA 5
[2014-03-12 16:13:56] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:14:09] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:14:09] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:14:10] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:14:10] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:14:10] HFB 0: hfa_send_frame: USB Send error, ret 0 amount 0 vs. tx_length 64, retrying
[2014-03-12 16:14:10] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:14:15] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:14:51] HFA 7 HFClearRead usb read err:(-9) LIBUSB_ERROR_PIPE
[2014-03-12 16:14:51] HFA 7 attempted reset got err:(-5) LIBUSB_ERROR_NOT_FOUND
[2014-03-12 16:14:51] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFA 7
[2014-03-12 16:14:56] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:08] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:09] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:15:09] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:15:09] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:15:09] HFB 0: hfa_send_frame: USB Send error, ret 0 amount 0 vs. tx_length 64, retrying
[2014-03-12 16:15:09] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:15:14] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:27] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:27] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:15:27] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:15:28] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:15:28] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:15:33] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:45] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:15:45] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:15:45] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:15:45] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:15:45] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:15:51] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] HFB 0: hfa_send_frame: USB Send error, ret 0 amount 0 vs. tx_length 64, retrying
[2014-03-12 16:16:04] HFB 0 failure, disabling!
[2014-03-12 16:16:09] HFA: Found old instance by op name 6c59a3e4 at device 0
[2014-03-12 16:16:23] Hotplug: Hashfast added HFB 0
[2014-03-12 16:16:23] HFB 0 HFHash usb write err:(-7) LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT
[2014-03-12 16:16:23] HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-4) LIBUSB_ERROR_NO_DEVICE
[2014-03-12 16:16:23] HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
[2014-03-12 16:16:23] HFB 0 failure, disabling! Does this board have firmware 0.4? |
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So with the new 4.1.0 cgminer these 2 lines are what I get spammed after 10secs:
HFB 0 HFGetHeader usb read err:(-1) LIBUSB_ERROR_IO
HFB 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS
No errors like this with 3.11.0. Firmware issue? I still have original firmware from batch 2 shipment.
Try the .4 firmware; it helps reduce LIBUSB errors. |
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Just got the upgrade kit.. boy the new single 120x38mm fan for the single radiator is loud. Anyone know what mounting these things take? It looks like Intel attachment arrangement so any watercooler should be fine, yes?
I'm thinking of getting some 280mm radiators with 140mm fans.
You may use any standard ATX watercooling arrangement as long as it has enough cooling capacity for the ASIC. The fan/radiator mount holes at the bottom of the case are industry standard. |
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Sold out?
While I am sad for the new bag holders, I'm happy because that means you'll be paying the refunds you owe people and shipping the months delayed products.
Right?
HashFast was open and honest about the reasons for our delay. The delay was for technical reasons, not "fraud" as you falsely claim. We've provided refunds too all Batch 1 customers who asked. Most choose to be patient and have received their hardware. As per US law, mail order refunds are in US dollars. Please do not maintain the unreasonable expectation that we're going to break that law. Because your machine was always priced US dollars, divesting yourself of the delusion you are owed an approximate 800% windfall (based on post-purchase appreciation of a temporary exchange medium provided as a convenience) may also be a good idea. I guess your lawyer only wanted to take your money, because there's little to no chance he's never heard of 31 US Code Section 5103: 31 U.S. Code § 5103 - Legal tender
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues
You refused your machine and you refused a full refund. So you get nothing. Nice legal maneuvering there buddy!  |
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stop comparing to cointerra. They have done much better at assembling and shipping devices so far
Not according to their own customers: It's been a week and I can't even get an RMA for my defective [Cointerra] unit.  I requested a refund a full 20 days ago.. i have not heard anything from [Cointerra] about it... WTF
This new firmware has made the bum January unit even more unstable, now it'll only hash at the high rate briefly before the rates tank and a reboot only gets the normal rates briefly before it tanks again. And of course this is a unit that showed up suspiciously missing the warranty stickers and missing the plug guard and with rubber feet already screwed in-I'm almost 100% sure this unit had problems during testing at cointerra.
Do you actually own CT hardware or are you only presuming to speak for those who do? |
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there is a lot of saying 'cointerra didnt meet 500GH' while saying 'we can achieve 800GH!'
Cointerr has units in customers hands - lots of units. hashfast has a massive line of customers still waiting on the MPP (which was a protection against late delivery - ohh the irony)
They then go on to flail wildly about having a 2.1TH miner using 3 chips. That means that the miraculous 800GH chips are actually running at about 700GH, or almost 15% under spec. I could shove 20 antminers into a server cabinet and call it a 4TH machine - would that make it a better product then hashfast's pathetic 2TH?
..the answer is yes. I would have those 20 antminers in a cabinet in less than a week from today. Hashfast might ship something in a month or two or three. Obviously my 4TH antminer system is now the greatest bitcoin ASIC of all time by hashfast standards
The wild flailing (and OP) are about HashFast's new world record holding 750+ GH/s ASIC. The 2.1TH Sierra EVO using only 3 chips is just one possible configuration and it comes in a 4U box, unlike a 4TH antminer (which would take up about 6 times as much space). If HashFast's spec-smashing 2TH is pathetic, then what are CT's 20% power and performance misses? |
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Unless it is self-mining, Hashfast apparently has one (1) machine that might hash at 750 m/h. Let me repeat that. One.
Hashfast shipped less than a handful of practically homemade machines but tried to generate the impression that the company had a functioning assembly line. It did not. It still does not.
"Might hash?" Are you saying the evidence was fabricated? Or did you overlook the OP, where Eligius/cgminer screenshots and video are clearly presented? HashFast has a working assembly line at CIARA, an ISO9000 certified leader in assembling/testing/shipping high tech hardware. HashFast demonstrated a working 2.1TH/s miner in Austin at last week's Bitcoin Conference. Let me repeat that. HashFast demonstrated a working 2.1TH/s miner in Austin at last week's Bitcoin Conference. In other news, Cointerra *did not* demonstrate a working 2.1TH/s miner in Austin at last week's Bitcoin Conference, or anywhere else. Ever. Why don't you go bother them for falsely claiming their ~400GH/s ASIC gets "greater than 500GH/s?"  |
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Well to discuss the "new ASIC", I have to say results that can be verified (especially by your customers) matter more than someone on the inside of HF touting their new "super duper hasher faster 900 cepton-decillion hash/sec asic miner". Pointless thread aside from the self-touting ego boosting comments.  The spectacular performance of HashFast's EVO may be verified in several ways. You can look at the cgminer and Eligius screenshots, watch the video, and read firsthand third-party reports from the public demonstration last week in Austin. If you haven't purchased a HashFast EVO product and have no interest in doing so, please leave this thread to those who have or may. Batch One EVO is sold out and Batch Two EVO is selling quickly. Why come in here and pollute a thread created for the benefit of those who disagree with your opinion? Ego boosting or what? Good job on the Lealeana silver coins; that was a positive contribution to the BTC/LTC community. Trying to instigate flame wars on a thread where you literally have no business is not a positive contribution. Please go back to what you are good at (shiny things) and stop slipping into your silly old Smoothie-the-mega-troll persona. |
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