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61  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
And you missed my point. What's the point of YOU having 800GH/s if nobody else (your customers) can't have it?

I missed your point because it was cloaked in an untrue statement implying EVO hasn't been hashing at a widely-publicized bitcoin conference for an entire week.

We can't magically conjure unlimited numbers of EVO boards by wishing them into existence; it takes time and effort to produce them.

So, the point of HashFast having 800GH/s is that the difficult process of bringing a new technology to the public is well underway (IE the design phase is finished) and we're working very hard to make EVO scale sufficient to meet overwhelming demand.

Is "Road Stress" what makes traveling children ask 'are we there yet' over and over, as if being demanding and impatient will somehow make the car go faster?  After all, what's the point of driving 80 miles when the destination is 100 miles away?   Grin
62  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:25:40 PM
This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

Breaking records in a lab means nothing if your customers aren't getting their units.

"In a lab?"  Did you somehow manage to entirely miss the latest news from Austin?  You should check our twitter page if you want to keep up.

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https://twitter.com/HashFast/status/441349358546456576

Update from the booth 34, the fastest miner on the planet just posted a 20min average of 2.179 TH/s #texasbitcoin

3:07 PM - 5 Mar 2014

Anyway, the EVO has been out of the lab for about a week, as bobsag3 confirms here:

I met and saw this new machine in person
63  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast BabyJet users thread on: March 08, 2014, 09:55:18 AM
The firmware has helped my recently failing BJ. It had become more unstable over time, not sure if anyone else experienced that.

The new firmware made my hardware more stable and a little faster.  There's room for more improvement, which upcoming firmware updates will provide.

may I ask, will these firmware upgrades be already built in to say... batch 3 and 4 please? I don't want to have to pfaff about with the rig when it arrives as i'll be on my holidays and a relative will be powering it up for me (to be fair, that relative did a good job setting up my getwork cubes).

Shipping with the freshest, newest firmware is risky because it often has bugs that don't show up until extensive testing is done in the wild.  It's better to use a known good version, especially if you need a stable system easily babysat by relatives.

OTOH, faffing about with hardware is the perfect way to get the relatives more interested in mining!

in that case, i'll have to make do with what the babyjet comes with until I get back from holiday, unless it ships early and I can do the work before I go.

Baby Jets are shipping with stable firmware; the most important improvements to prevent crashes have largely been made.  We're working on getting our customized Minepeon to auto-magically install firmware updates, so the issue may soon be moot.
64  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VMC] Official Virtual Mining Corporation Discussion on: March 08, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
So what are they working on right now?

Weekly Update 2/19/2014

We have started with a new vendor for our 28nm project.  Our custom 28nm will be very competitive in the market place and will be air cooled and use a double slot.  The estimate speed of the new card will be 432 GH/s and will be listed at $1499.00.

Management is preparing for the MSD investigation, management believes that the MSD will clear VMC of any wrong acts in Missouri as VMC has NOT offered ActiveMining shares.  Management believes that the company can be successful in the long run.  The management team is committed to seeing this through.

ActiveMining-PR Staff

What the hell is "double slot"? It's the first time i hear this.

"Double slot" means two PCIE slots.  Just like an ATI 7970, etc.

Not to be confused with the "double slit" which proved the quantum mechanical nature of light.   Grin
65  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast BabyJet users thread on: March 08, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
The firmware has helped my recently failing BJ. It had become more unstable over time, not sure if anyone else experienced that.

The new firmware made my hardware more stable and a little faster.  There's room for more improvement, which upcoming firmware updates will provide.

may I ask, will these firmware upgrades be already built in to say... batch 3 and 4 please? I don't want to have to pfaff about with the rig when it arrives as i'll be on my holidays and a relative will be powering it up for me (to be fair, that relative did a good job setting up my getwork cubes).

Shipping with the freshest, newest firmware is risky because it often has bugs that don't show up until extensive testing is done in the wild.  It's better to use a known good version, especially if you need a stable system easily babysat by relatives.

OTOH, faffing about with hardware is the perfect way to get the relatives more interested in mining!
66  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 09:34:56 AM
HashLast_CL, you don't get the complete irrelevance of your 2TH cackle, don't you?

CT has delivered more than thousand miners, hashing at 1.5 TH or more right now.

"Or more?"  Does "or more" mean at least one or two CT miners actually got up to or past their 2TH/s spec?

Minor Miner told me to "stay up to date on what is available in the market right now" and that's what I'm going to do.

Current and potential ASIC customers deserve to know the plain facts.

Is the statement "Only HashFast has demonstrated a working 2TH/s miner" true or false?  

Two people have said it's false; I am seeking to confirm or invalidate their input.  Can you help?

Halfassed_CL's account has been hacked by BFL_Josh,things will return to normal when the drugs wear off  Grin

IOW, 'No, you can't help answer a simple question, but are willing to contribute a content-free personal attack just to demonstrate your troll skillz?'
67  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 09:31:23 AM
These forums have far to much noise/lack of moderation(by this sites moderators/thread starters)/concise info by thread starters, to distribute information in a concise manner for those kind of updates to be solely posted here.

P.S Nice to see a acknowledgement and initiative. Lets see if it actually does anything.

I agree about the preponderance of noise and dearth of moderation.  But this forum is too important to the BTC community to let the haters and windfall seekers achieve their goals of disruption and dilution.

We don't have to give up and accept the inevitability of threads being turned into nothing but useless rage posts, personal attacks, and flame bait.

Will you help me keep this (and other) threads cleaned up by reporting posts violating gmaxwell's Rules of Conduct?

If you enjoy discussing Bitcoin ASICs, please assist in keeping our Custom Hardware sub on-topic!
68  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 09:21:43 AM
This is the Custom Hardware subforum.  We are supposed to discuss things like

-HashFast ASIC specs (original 400GH/s goal met, now up to 800GH/s)
-Cointerra ASIC specs (much less than original 500GH/s target)

we aren't supposed to endlessly belabor flimsy scam accusations like

-HashFast didn't provide windfalls by refunding $100 BTCs with an equal number of $1000 Bitcoins, therefore it's a Ponzi!!11!

The thread says up to 800gh but you just said

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HashFast's record-breaking new 800GH/s

Why not hashfast record breaking 750gh?

I agree it is silly to have your company act as a hedge for those who paid with $100 btcs but want a refund of $650 btcs

Fair enough, I'll edit the 800GH/s in that post and change it to the absolutely undisputable 750Gh/s figure (my intention was not to mislead but rather grammatical correctness).

Thanks for calling out the windfall seekers who wanted to be in a can't lose/free lunch situation at HashFast's expense.  "Silly" is one of the right words for their ridiculous expectations, but some other ones come to mind given the actions they've taken...
69  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
HashLast_CL, you don't get the complete irrelevance of your 2TH cackle, don't you?

CT has delivered more than thousand miners, hashing at 1.5 TH or more right now.

"Or more?"  Does "or more" mean at least one or two CT miners actually got up to or past their 2TH/s spec?

Minor Miner told me to "stay up to date on what is available in the market right now" and that's what I'm going to do.

Current and potential ASIC customers deserve to know the plain facts.

Is the statement "Only HashFast has demonstrated a working 2TH/s miner" true or false? 

Two people have said it's false; I am seeking to confirm or invalidate their input.  Can you help?
70  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
How can you even claim 800gh when you have yet to reach it?

And how can you bash another company for missing advertised specs when you missed yours as well.

Not sure the point of discussing specs. Even if hashfast had a 1600gh chip at 0.1w/gh it still wouldn't be enough for me to consider buying from you as you feel is it acceptable to change existing contracts whenever you please.

Given the EVO already runs at 750GH/s, anticipating a small additional improvement of 50GH/s is very reasonable.  The OP says "up to 800GH/s."  Please pay attention and recognize the importance of the key "up to" phrase, which modifies the "800GH/s" figure.  

This is the Custom Hardware subforum.  We are supposed to discuss things like

-HashFast ASIC specs (original 400GH/s goal met, now up to 800GH/s)
-Cointerra ASIC specs (much less than original 500GH/s target)

we aren't supposed to endlessly belabor flimsy scam accusations like

-HashFast didn't provide windfalls by refunding $100 BTCs with an equal number of $1000 Bitcoins, therefore it's a Ponzi!!11!

If nothing we do could make you consider buying from us, why are you posting here?  Batch One EVOs sold out almost instantly, so exhibiting your grudge in public hasn't had any noticeable effect.  Better get a Batch Two before they're gone!
71  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:29:04 AM
Is there any proof of a CT box doing 2TH, or are the haters making stuff up just to troll?

I cant believe you show your face in another thread.... go back to your self moderated thread until your company stops scamming people....  

Minor Miner advised me to

stay up to date on what is available in the market right now.

So that's what I'm going to do. 

Now, have you any input on the issue of whether or not Cointerra's claim to have "greater than 500 GH/s" is true?

All I see on this thread are numerous reports of the "greater than 500 GH/s" claim in the OP being empirically false, citing demonstrated performance shortcomings of 20% under spec or worse.

Given the two unverified claims of 2TH CT boxes in the wild, we should resolve the matter in a calm, rational manner.

AFAIK only HashFast has demonstrated a working 2TH miner (at this week's Austin BTC conference).

But I'd love to see proof my belief is outdated or wrong.  Are you going to help answer, or just attack me for daring to ask an on-topic, if impudent, question?

I read your sig too fast & got "Halfassed Community Liason"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

So you got a new title Huh    Grin

Huh True or False: CoinTerra's first ASIC's Hash-Rate is greater than 500 GH/s?
72  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:24:25 AM
HF_CL. Instead of having flame wars, why do you focus your efforts on something beneficial, like getting HF to post some kind of regular update(daily weekly update of order dates shipped/shipping) showing what order dates are shipping. Like BFL did(As much as I hate to even mention those....I'll be too nice....shall I say, shade folks). Regular updates like that will give HF far more credibility than you can ever dream of by making pointless, perhaps.. even offense... post. Show everyone proof, not excuses. If you can't see the value in that, than I don't think HF is looking for value, they are just looking for a quick payout. Which in case it isn't obvious is != to job security.

This thread is intended solely for discussion of HashFast's record-breaking new 750GH/s EVO, not rehashing every old complaint from previous threads.

As I just explained one post ago
My focus is more on the tech (mining with HashFast ASICs) side and less on the customer support/sales (when is my XXX shipping?) tip.

And you are correct; we should also have another thread where the topic is "When is my HashFast Thingy shipping?" started/moderated by someone with more insight than I about order chains, supply chains, customs, etc.

Implementing your keen suggestion does fall under the scope of my Community Liaison work and I will pass it up to my superiors.  Thanks for the feedback!   Smiley
73  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 08:11:50 AM
Is there any proof of a CT box doing 2TH, or are the haters making stuff up just to troll?

I cant believe you show your face in another thread.... go back to your self moderated thread until your company stops scamming people....  

Minor Miner advised me to

stay up to date on what is available in the market right now.

So that's what I'm going to do. 

Now, have you any input on the issue of whether or not Cointerra's claim to have "greater than 500 GH/s" is true?

All I see on this thread are numerous reports of the "greater than 500 GH/s" claim in the OP being empirically false, citing demonstrated performance shortcomings of 20% under spec or worse.

Given the two unverified claims of 2TH CT boxes in the wild, we should resolve the matter in a calm, rational manner.

AFAIK only HashFast has demonstrated a working 2TH miner (at this week's Austin BTC conference).

But I'd love to see proof my belief is outdated or wrong.  Are you going to help answer, or just attack me for daring to ask an on-topic, if impudent, question?
74  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 07:42:21 AM
Care to explain the Customer Liasion part of your name HashFast_CL?

Customer: People who buy your products (e.g. us)

Liasion: Liaison means communication between two or more groups, or co-operation or working together.

But by all means carry on.

I'm the Community (not "Customer") Liaison.  My focus is more on the tech (mining with HashFast ASICs) side and less on the customer support/sales (when is my XXX shipping?) tip.

HashFast execs are far too busy getting more/better boards built to spend time reading this forum and reddit, but know how important community is to an open-source project like Bitcoin.  So I keep up with the word on road and provide executive summary.  I also listen to office chatter and relate what may be disclosed back on here.
75  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast BabyJet users thread on: March 08, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
The firmware has helped my recently failing BJ. It had become more unstable over time, not sure if anyone else experienced that.

The new firmware made my hardware more stable and a little faster.  There's room for more improvement, which upcoming firmware updates will provide.
76  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 07:07:24 AM
my last two posts were deleted by thread owner which pisses me off very much.

When posts fail to respect the OP ("HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s") they are off-topic and will be moderated.

Here is some great advice gmaxwell, our intrepid Hardware subforum moderator, wrote for people like you:

Posts by an equipment manufacturer or their staff in a thread about that manufacturer are automatically on-topic regardless of their content.

I know this can be hard, but please make an effort to keep posts on-topic (primarily about HF's new product offering)

If you are unhappy about these conditions I invite you to not post in custom hardware.


If you are unable to control your behavior your ability to post in custom hardware will be removed in one way or another.

Cheers and happy discussing.
77  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 08, 2014, 06:56:52 AM
Judging by how [Cointerra] have handled everything so far, they arent going to make it right for anyone in the early batches, they are going to ignore the criticisms about their late, overpowered, underperforming machines and just continue to scam people out of their hard earned bitcoin.  I can't believe theyre still claiming on their site that they are performing up to spec, not to mention theyre taking pre orders for June now?!  It doesnt matter how polished or if they look like they have their shit together, they have acted just like every other asic company out there.

I'm hearing rumors of Cointerra chips actually operating at the advertised "greater than 500GH/s."

The relevance of HashFast's EVO product is obvious; it's the highest performance Custom Hardware ever demonstrated.
This is not true.   I have CT that are hashing faster than that right now.   You need to stay up to date on what is available in the market right now.   I am willing to sell you one if you wish to see.

How can [HashFast's Sierra EVO] be the worlds first 2th miner when people have been able to reach 2th on a terraminer?

Is there any proof of a CT box doing 2TH, or are the haters making stuff up just to troll?
78  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 07, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
I would remind people to not post identical things here again if they've been deleted, go bump the non-self-modderated thread instead. I know this can be hard when you can't see what has been previously deleted since such a substantial chunk of this thread has been deleted, but please make an effort to keep posts on-topic (primarily about HF's new product offering) and to not repeat posts.

Thanks gmaxwell.  I respect your moderator skills/integrity and will donate some meals to Satoshi Forest in your name.

Do I need to report trolls for reposting/harassment/off-topic or can you handle it without my input?
79  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 07, 2014, 01:45:55 AM
 Live up to your current failed obligations before you brag about future "accomplishments". 
  Otherwise any thing HF says will seem disingenuous.

The 2TH/s Sierra EVO has been hashing live from the Austin BTC confab for days.

IOW, it's not a "future" accomplishment but rather an empirically proven fact of current reality.

HashFast isn't the only entity saying the 2TH/s Sierra EVO exists.  cgminer, Eligius, and hundreds of BTC confab attendees also confirm this new world record for ASIC mining.

OTOH, Cointerra's chip is still being misrepresented as "500GH/s" when it actually only gets about 400GH/s.  Even after a two month delay, they couldn't get their machines to run at the promised 2TH/s.

The only company in the world selling mining equipment that really hashes at 2TH/s is HashFast (hence our name).
80  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 07, 2014, 01:35:28 AM
tl;dr off-topic

First you claimed to have received "nothing" from HashFast.

Now you admit HashFast sent you a refund, but you refused to accept it.

Cool story bro (both versions).
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