The payments were made form 1844aNo5gAssVSmUmLwk6qG61uBNdQswH3 as shown in the payout history on their [website]( http://www.minethatcloud.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18) 0.0087 BTC was sent from 12wmRSVf1e6MTpmvGuUxreEXxbaRHkepuC to 1JgxteZWCuZLu4FnPUWv3Jxgj89QkFXLvX which sent 0.0087 BTC to 1844aNo5gAssVSmUmLwk6qG61uBNdQswH3 which sent 0.0001402 BTC to 12wmRSVf1e6MTpmvGuUxreEXxbaRHkepuC. In other words, payouts are funded from new customers buying contracts. another ponzi..great. what happened to old times when no one screwed another. This days business model is to screw people over. how you sleeping over night I don't know.
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I've met the Brawker's team and I know I can trust them.
I don't understand all these guys who talk about scam as soon as something doesn't work well...
Just because YOU MET their team and can trust them dosnt mean we all can. OP shoukd edit title as no one was scamed. If they tried they failed. so u wasn't scamed from 800$. brawker as any other business when catched on wrongdoing obviously will denied everything just to look good. Most of company always use same word "coincidence" to cover their mistakes and issue. fact that transaction cannot be interrupted by brawker as middle man is worrying. If they want act like middle man they should be middle man. idea behind brawker os good. but they should improve if they want to stay in business.
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Price gone down and all negative approach start crawling out of many wholes.
When bitcoin was $1000 everyone was reading from crystal bowl what a future and shit.
Now when price adjusting- its PONZI.
Dont let the door hit you on way out.
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Great thread. Trezor rules.
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I offered to visit as well but u didn't come back to me so I'm pretty sure all your sells are bs
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BTC <-> VISA is not a new idea, it's just something that not even the well known BTC companies have been able to do yet, so you need to provide a LOT of details and why YOU are able to do this when others cannot.
^^Wise words your GRACE....^^
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I have to admit this is very interesting and tempting oportunity. but as always its risk as well.
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22/09/2014- incorporated in this date. So took them only 3 months to tied up themselfs with visa, crypto exchange, and now advertising this here? not quite sure why you are so negative about our service. I look after technical side of the project and can address your concerns. re Visa: we don't deal with Visa directly, we work with card issuer bank (the name of the bank was given in previous posts) and card issuer deals with Visa re your previous FCA regulations question: as you probably know bitcoins are not regulated in UK (we are uk company) and we don't hold any client's accounts, so we don have to be FCA regulated re 3 moths and crypto exchange: whats wrong with that? for professional developer it should NOT take that long to integrate rest API in working infrastructure our team has a lot of experience developing FX trading platforms in investment banks (Barclays Capital, Morgan Stanley and BNP Praibas), 2 of our members are MBA Cass graduates so they know to do business please let us know if you have any concerns or questions What a nonsense you trying to sell? I did asked clearly what exchange after you load coins to card will exchange that to fiat and load to card issued by you? BTC to card>>>BTC landing in exchange>>>Exchange selling for fiat>>>>>Exchange loading Fiat to bank(card issuer)>>>card can be used!!!How its even possible that any UK bank did give you thumbs up for dealing with crypto? Your team? Your website showing nothing more than just nice graphics and photoshoped card. You have no details filled in companys house, no history and no info about YOUR TEAM. As a financial institution you have to be regulated by FSA. dosnt matter if you have UK customers account or not. None of this nonsense add up. Post your team diploma, make a quick snap of your office, post landline phone number. do anything to validate your business. because for now 2 newbies trying pull fast one. 3 month period was given to show you that you joker as hell. Even your domain expires soon. why hiding who is data?
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There are no details anywhere. Details you should have are the company name and full registration details. The fully verifiable names of the company owners and the historical contact address details of the company. To have such a card you must be dealing with VISA and VISA will not allow some random anonymous internet scammer to deal with them. They will require such details also. You expect people to give you BTC with a zero trust rating, no posts on this forum and all details about your company and web site hidden. Seriously - you think anyone WOULDN'T think it's a scam? Totally see your point, mate. I wouldn't trust my money to someone I don't know. Hence, this post and this whole discussion. You can see the company details here: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.ukCompany No. 09228951 Or here: https://www.duedil.com/company/09228951/e-coin-trading-limitedOr here: http://companycheck.co.uk/company/09228951/E-COIN-TRADING-LIMITEDWill be happy to PM more details to you and would appreciate if you could check them and post in this forum once all your questions have been answered. To have such a card we can be dealing with Visa directly or with an official Visa card issuer. The latter is the case for us. You are absolutely right in that neither would deal with a random internet scammer, so the actual fact that the card is being issued and shipped is proof of the opposite. May I suggest that you give it a try? It is only $1 during beta stage, and not free only for the reason that people don't treat free stuff seriously. Also, would be happy to meet you at http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/ later this month. Hope I've addressed your concerns best as I could Why you have not specified type of business? Why as financial institution you havent got any regulators numbers? What exchange allow you to load fiat in exchange for coins? Why you want to provide more info by PM?
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22/09/2014- incorporated in this date. So took them only 3 months to tied up themselfs with visa, crypto exchange, and now advertising this here?
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK Where in london u based? Please provide full details. That's shouldn't be a problem as you should be transparent. Full details please post here openly. Visa debit should be marked with debit dont you think? Did i missed something?: Card can be loaded with coins and used worldwide. So obviously someone exchanging coins for credit. If this is UK based business why u exchanging for USD? Why your domain expires in next 10 months (2015-10-21)? Full details can be found here: https://www.e-coin.io/legalThe card is clearly marked as Visa debit (see above), not sure I got you question.. Exchange of bitcoin into fiat is done via an official online exchange Based in the UK does not mean focused entirely on the UK. At this (beta) stage only USD nominated card is available, GBP and EUR are work in progress Domain - well spotted, I didn't even know, also work in progress, will point that out to the relevant person to sort out If you are registered in UK and wales, please provide me with company registration number. As financial institution you are regulated in uk by FSA, please provide registry number for that as well. What exchange make possible to load coins and receive fiat on visa card. Your visa sign is not properly market as debit card. Your website have no info what so ever. Address found on weboste showing: a. Flat b. Virtual office Explain why you hiding and dont wont post all details on forum.
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
It's a debit card, not credit. Gibraltar bank. If you want full details, can send via email. Of course, the Visa logo is there because it is a proper Visa card - no difference from a usual one. E-Coin Trading Limited, based in London, UK Where in london u based? Please provide full details. That's shouldn't be a problem as you should be transparent. Full details please post here openly. Visa debit should be marked with debit dont you think? Did i missed something?: Card can be loaded with coins and used worldwide. So obviously someone exchanging coins for credit. If this is UK based business why u exchanging for USD? Why your domain expires in next 10 months (2015-10-21)?
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OK, tell me who actually giving credit to those cards? What bank or institution is that?
Who is operator and can use Visa logo?
Where are you based?
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I agree about marking coins. Maybe they stole it but now coins changed owner and let it be. No one have right to point finger where the cois should go or who should or shouldn't own it. If we start burning coins shady coins or block them or marking them we might as well turn the lights of ans come back to fiat.
Maybe i see this wrong but this 19k of coins is nice bug bounty for who ever found way to get in to the system.
Little geek shit: 500 euro notes have RFID chips bonded to track notes.
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Who ever done it.....clever monkeys.....
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I agree this doesn't look good.
And fuck me, he have stuff in wholesale quantity like 254 ipad air. I think he might be shady character who robbing argos lorries during night when drivers sleeping in a cab....
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What's is so interesting, is that he have no offers through thread but yet all goods are going like bread during a war.
I did offer as well pop in to his place but yet again this was turned down. If someone who REALLY NEED MONEY can turn down offer of let say 15btc in one go. That means he is a scammer.
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Have you got affiliate program?
Not yet, but we are working on it. Let me know and will list you on my site.
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