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941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 07, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
Oh right. What's happening is those are blocks mined by someone else, but you are the recipient of the 45,000 share for that block. If you look at the block in the explorer it'll be your own devcoin address from the receivers.csv there. They appear as generates and are still immature. I guess that has the potential to confuse your pool somewhat, assuming that's devcoind output from your pool's daemon.
942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 07, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 11250.00000000,
        "confirmations" : 30,
        "txid" : "19db63b6ef93de4b7d150fe06492047aef6199c79cdd8762ee7035a0b6a7f151",
        "time" : 1325945174
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 45000.00000000,
        "confirmations" : 11,
        "txid" : "92a0ffef949e19822fa0bede0ad09de7fcef734e2203936ec9320d836f0f8bda",
        "time" : 1325949850
Yeah, something's wrong. those block amounts don't seem right.
943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 07, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
Are you sure you're not on a fork? Check your hash against: http://64.244.102.88:2750/block/0000000000008dad8f4ae8910a759b81de4e9f84bcb74d75ad6052ef4d77dac7
944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitparking Merged Mining Pool (PPS, 50G/s, BTC, NMC, I0C, IXC) on: January 07, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
Any plans to MM the following :

BTC
NMC
IXC
I0C
DVC
CLC


Why are you asking me if I have plans to merge mine currencies I'm already merge mining?
945  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.bitparking.com [40 gh/s] ixC, i0C, nmc, btc merged on: January 07, 2012, 03:45:37 AM
Is there any other port available for mining in your pool, or do you have plan to add one? port80 is occupied, what about the https port?
Try mmrpc.bitparking.com, port 80. I've just set this up now so it may take a bit for the dns to propogate. Let me know how it goes. That port is for miners only and forwards internally to port 15098 so may be slightly less efficient due to that additional latency.
946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DEAD] Coiledcoin - yet another cryptocurrency, but with OP_EVAL! on: January 07, 2012, 12:40:19 AM
How do I withdraw my CLC compensation from mmpool if I didnt register my ID with a btc address?
Email me at the address on the mmpool site.
947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 02:23:31 PM
Below I'm explaining what an attacker could do with an attack similar to what happen with coiledcoin. I'm not suggesting this will actually happen.

(b) I can personally summon enough mining power to compete at least to the level that if he (or anyone else) wants to really screw the network over they are going to have to invest a lot of resources in doing so. This is a Network that is backed by developers and miners, if someone wants to take it down - its going to be a fight.
Assume it's a pool with 350 or more Ghash. You can personally summon that much mining power to complete? You'd actually need to exceed what they have.

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(d) I really believe the nature of the devcoin network and the way the difficulty changes so fast will protect us, I mean think about it if someone wants to drive the difficulty up they are going to have to spend their resources to keep it up - someone would really have to hate devcoin to invest this type of money in it. As soon as they stop it will go back down. Problem solved.
They don't need to invest money - it's free by merge mining bitcoins at the same time. There is no additional cost for a large miner to attack it. Changing difficulty doesn't matter. If they have >51% they then stop accepting other peoples blocks and continue to publish their chain containing only their blocks. Now they control what transactions can be included. If they stop allowing any transactions the chain is dead. No blocks and no transactions. And it's not costing the attacker anything - they're still earning bitcoins/namecoins/whatever while doing it. The only defence is to exceed their hash rate. Or to somehow identify and stop their blocks.

The coiled coin attack has shown how hard it will be for alt chains to survive without the good will of existing pools.
948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pool Ops are now the Alt Currency Police on: January 06, 2012, 02:16:17 PM
brute forcing and getting a longer chain doesn't "break" the currency does it?  sure, luke or whomever gets the generated coins that other miners originally assumed they got but the currency itself could keep on going after, right?
it can "break" the currency if the miner has greater than 51% and refuses to accept other miners blocks and refuses to include any transactions. Because they have >51% they always have the longest chain. No one else gets blocks, no transactions are allowed, so the chain is effectively dead. It's a pretty nifty example of the power of >51% hash rate.
949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
so why do you think he will attack it?
Because he warned me he would. By attack I mean mine the chain with a huge hashrate, dump the coins and drive the price down as is happening with i0/ixcoin. Whether he still plans to or not I don't know. Since it's actually happening on other chains it's important to be prepared for it. My warning about 51% attacks is due to what happen to coiled coin. I don't know if he plans to do the same with devcoin but since it's happened to an existing chain it's important to have a plan for dealing with it. You don't want to find 2 hours into merge mining enabled that your chain is dead. Even if the plan is to ask him if he'll please not do it.
950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitparking Merged Mining Pool (PPS, 50G/s, BTC, NMC, I0C, IXC) on: January 06, 2012, 01:24:57 PM
Sorry it all went horribly wrong like this. I really wasn't expecting a 51% attack by one of the major pools.
No worries, it's all a learning experience. I guess that will be the last alt chain for a while.
951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 01:06:47 PM
look at all those transactions and the difficulty sky rocket

do you think all those transactions are some kind of malicious attack?
No, they are normal transactions. It looks like a lot due to the amounts being smallish but coming from addresses with large amounts and the change being the remaining large amount. As far as I'm aware Luke hasn't attacked devcoin.
952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitparking Merged Mining Pool (PPS, 50G/s, BTC, NMC, I0C, IXC) on: January 06, 2012, 12:33:12 PM
All users that mined coiled coins on the mmpool have been compensated BTC at the rate of 0.0002 btc per coiled coin. This has been credited to your bitcoin balance. Sorry for the inconvenience of resetting your addresses for such a short lived chain.
953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
isnt Luke-Jr on the damn share list?

doublec where do you get all this information about Luke-Jr?
Which information exactly? You can read the curledcoin thread for details on what happened there.
954  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [349 GH] Eligius pool: ~0Fee SMPPS, no reg, RollNtime, hop OK, BTC+NMC merged! on: January 06, 2012, 08:02:31 AM
Where are your helpful corrections for the people claiming that he's 'attacking' i0 and ix too? (as far as I can tell this is an outrageous lie)   Or do the corrections only come for the details which are in your financial best interest?  :-/
That's a pretty uncalled for comment. [thanks for removing the barb]. The only thing I know Luke-Jr to be doing with i0coin/ixcoin is mining them and selling them with the intent to crash the price . I know this because Luke told me in #namecoin IRC. [logs removed due to objection from luke]. I don't know anything about the bitparking pool clams. Luke has definitely not done anything to bitparking.
955  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [349 GH] Eligius pool: ~0Fee SMPPS, no reg, RollNtime, hop OK, BTC+NMC merged! on: January 06, 2012, 07:50:27 AM
DoubleC's pool benefited from supermajority induced orphaning during big pre-MM NMC boom when it was >>50%, and I had a great many orphans in my solo mining. This was on a 10 minute chain which is less subject to orphaning, and on a chain that was worth non-trivial money at the time. ::shrugs::
Please don't try to make it look like that situation was the same as the one here. I ran a stock standard pool that did nothing to change block propagation in any way. The situation here is a majority pool actively refusing other blocks and this is not the same.
956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 07:13:13 AM
Well this is why pools were considered a dangerous development in the first place, isn't it?
I'm not sure what you're getting at. All I'm doing is giving advance warning that when merge mining activates you'll have a hostile pool with large hash rate destroying your chain. I'm not arguing about whether such a thing is moral or legal or anything. I'm just saying, you might want to be prepared. Like find 300 Ghash somewhere.
957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [RELEASED] Coiledcoin - yet another cryptocurrency, but with OP_EVAL! on: January 06, 2012, 07:11:17 AM
Can you please put the linux source code on github Smiley
https://github.com/makomk/coiledcoin
958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitparking Merged Mining Pool (PPS, 50G/s, BTC, NMC, I0C, IXC and CLC) on: January 06, 2012, 07:10:08 AM
i think it should be kept on (maybe with payments disabled until the coins can be confirmed) to "beat" the 51% er (luke is it?)
The pool is still mining, it'll just never get any blocks unless luke's pool gets below 50%.
959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 06:29:36 AM
He is doing a 50%+1 attack? If so the only counter is more hashing power, surely?

Are his users supporting him in this? Or are there folk who will refuse to deal with a pool that does such things?
Sure, but finding 300 Ghash of power to compete with his pool might be difficult. Do his users support him? I doubt they care.
960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [800,000 DVC remaining bounty] for Devcoin preliminary testing on: January 06, 2012, 05:34:39 AM
Given that luke-jr seems to be on a crusade to destroy merge minable alternate chains (he recently attacked the coiledcoin chain), what plans does devcoin have to prevent this when it switches on?
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