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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [CANN]Cannabis Coin Pre-Mine Transparency Discussion on: October 23, 2014, 07:02:01 PM
Instead of refuting any of these facts, the only response from CANN is to attack the messenger.  Delta9 went on a ban spree last night on IRC and kicked out anyone with a dissenting point of view.  Even though these questions have surfaced 18 million coins that were unaccounted for and forced Delta9 to burn 14 million of them, the response is to still attack and ban anyone with a question about the pre-mine.

For anyone who has been involved with bitcoin or cryptocurrency for more than a couple of months, it is obvious that this is a very amateur operation being run by CANN with zero respect for the blockchain asset ledger.  18m coins unaccounted for until this week, with any and all questions resulting in a ban from the developer. 

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 


 
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [CANN]Cannabis Coin Pre-Mine Transparency Discussion on: October 23, 2014, 11:52:07 AM
CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".

883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The truth about CannaCoin (CCN) on: October 22, 2014, 09:49:02 PM

Even if the CANN dev was hiding something about the premine, the behavior of CCN is not much better


Also the fact the premine wasn't dumped at CANNs ATH tells me DeltaNine is in it for the long haul and isn't as nefarious as people make him out to be.


So let me get this straight.  The fact that one of the CCN devs posts questions about the blockchain is just as bad as knowingly hiding a pre-mine for several months and lying about it? 

The fact the premine wasn't dumped at the ATH is totally meaningless.  If a bank robber hides stolen money and doesn't spend it, does that somehow make them less of a criminal? 
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][2] Developments & Discussions on: October 22, 2014, 02:54:15 PM

Don't be so quick to label someone who questions actionable evidence a FUD slinger. I questioned those coins months ago. I believe in the coin, but no matter what you say, it needed to be addressed. Those were very legitimate concerns.



You are correct, they were legitimate concerns but there's a right way and a wrong way of bringing this to light.  In my opinion, the way the CCN DEVs got involved, they way they jumped to such conclusions, they way they posted in BIG BOLD BLACK LETTERS and the way they defended their every post was very very childish and unprofessional.  It exacerbated all this "FUD this" "FUD that" nonsense.

I'm a big supporter of CCN and their projects, we should all be as they're coin agnostic in a way, but I will not be a blind fan-boy of their every move.  The way they brought this all about and they way they conducted themselves throughout this whole ordeal was embarrassing to say the least   Cry

Embarrassing is a dev who "Forgets" about 12.5 million of their pre-mined coins, spends months deflecting any knowledge or requests for accounting of the pre-mine, denies ownership or knowledge of the coin, and then magically remembers that he owns all of the private keys.  

885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The truth about CannaCoin (CCN) on: October 22, 2014, 02:52:00 PM


What about the other questionable 8 million coins?



Note how a member of the CCN team not only doesn't deny the allegations, but continues to FUD in this very thread.

Note how convienent it is for this guy to post no proof and use a throw away account instead of his own. Too convenient. Regardless that premine number is alarming.

And yea were supposed to believe that a crypto dev team paid a group to read the blockchain... cmon it would take one team member 2 minutes... they dont need to hire fud.

The 14+ Mill unclaimed coins have been destroyed.
http://cannabiscoinnews.tumblr.com/
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL.htm
http://earlz.net/view/2014/10/22/0340/provably-spendable-altcoin-burn-addresses
D9 destroying the 14+ million CANN video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xORbdGwm4&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to CCN, the value of CANN is growing, CANN devs are gaining more respect and honor, and the community is growing stronger. Cheers to that PR firm, I sincerely thank you!  Cheesy


I think it's funny that not only do you believe this means the CANN dev gains more respect and honor for essentially lying about a significant percentage of coins, but that CCN would need to pay for a PR firm to uncover basic information about the CANN blockchain.

886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [CANN]Cannabis Coin Pre-Mine Transparency Discussion on: October 22, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
wait, wait, wait, hold on a second, there's still something VERY important missing from these YouTube clips -- that fucking Delta9 -- how could you have forgotten to say the following:


"THANK YOU JAMESONTC AND TOKYOPOTATO FOR BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT!!!.  We should all be thankful that the community has such altruistic superheroes in our midst to protect the interests of everyone.  Without the transparency police, this would have never come about and I would have never thought of dealing with the issue in this way.  These guys are truly leaders and pioneers in the crypto-world - true class acts in every way.  Let's all thank them for caring so much about CANN by investing in their CCN project.  James, Tokyopotato and the rest of the CCN guys, I love you - true professionals - you're great.  I can only wish to be more like you and I will strive in every way to do so!!"


Until you release a follow-up Youtube message to that effect, D9, you're just another shyster scam artist, I hate you and you should die!"

 

Even if he does this (which he should), he should still be considered another shyster scam artist for lying about the fact he owned 12m+ coins.  Nobody "forgets" about a significant percentage of the coin supply, especially after meticulously placing them in several lots of 500,000.

887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The truth about CannaCoin (CCN) on: October 22, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 22, 2014, 02:11:11 AM
889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The truth about CannaCoin (CCN) on: October 22, 2014, 02:03:34 AM
The PR firm in question specializes in blockchain technology and upon analysing blockchains they find whatever fault they can and capitalize on it via way of organized FUD. The PR firm are the ones who found out about the so called "Hidden Premine" and then passed that info along to the CCN team who themselves have put extradionary effort into ruining the reputation of CANN.

I cannot support this type of behaviour and it should be known that the CCN team spent money ruining the reputation of CANN.


Does anyone else find this hilarious?  Spent money...to read the blockchain Grin Also, might want to count those 25 addresses again.  CannabisCoin should go down as the most botched pre-mine accounting job ever.

890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 20, 2014, 10:06:16 PM

D9 is a well spoken and good looking person. I think some of that is what made the price move up. I'm not trying to be mean here... but in all honesty, I don't really get a good "I want to trust these guys" vibe when I see your pics. I'm a younger and open minded person. I can only image what horrible things rich 40 to 60 yr olds think when they see your pics.

I would recommend getting a 45 year old, really good looking, and well spoken person to do all public press release videos/appearances/communications for CCN.


I'm one of Cannacoins most prolific miners and investors and in the age group you speak of. I can tell you that based on my  experience, all con-men present a slick polished appearance. While I agree corporate America has their uniform, what if any uniform should a dev wear. This team has never been about the pump, more about the education of their target community.

They do wear the uniform of their peers and in the long run will get the recognition that comes through their works,

Could not have said it better myself Jingoba.  It's not about the style and polish (although I see nothing wrong with the way the team presents itself), it's about the substance and quality of the work behind the coin.  Not only does Cannacoin have one of the most talented development teams in all of crypto, but they have a cohesive community that works together for the betterment of cannabis and crypto overall. 
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 17, 2014, 04:37:27 AM
Top 10 trade volume on Trex with 37 BTC.  Exciting day for sure! 

892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 16, 2014, 09:34:31 PM
lots of action with cannacoin today @ bittrex.

still time to get in before it launches

Over 5 BTC of volume for CCN.  Not bad
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 16, 2014, 05:04:56 AM
Cannacoin integration within NWGT.  Great work by SubCreative to create the first (to my knowledge) integration of cryptocurrency with a vBulletin forum.  It's amazing how quickly he got it up and running, and I'm excited to see the features develop over time based on the needs of the community.  

894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 15, 2014, 01:16:40 AM
Fortunes are made and fortunes are lost at the #Cannasino

 
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 14, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
Had to quote Phil on IRC. "Some on [bit]trex are sad and believe that bots are taking over...they are wrong... it is actually the Cannapay beta users they see, unhappy now?  / just wait!  CCN stakeholders will reap the dividends"   Grin
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin - CannaPay - Cannabis Community Network - CannaShares! on: October 11, 2014, 05:05:24 AM
Looking forward to #cannasino, the cannacoin casino on IRC (freenode).  El_Kabong is currently setting up multiple games including blackjack, slot machines, and wheel of fortune. 
897  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Pre-Sale] 1 oz .999 Fine Silver Physical Vericoins on: October 04, 2014, 12:41:34 AM
Got the coin.  Grin  Love them.  The coin itself looks flawless, the hologram placed perfectly in center.  Will treasure for years to come.  Well done socal! 
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCN] - Cannacoin: Announcements, discussion & development. on: September 14, 2014, 06:37:48 PM
Amazing work from the dev team on all the great development...Cannacart, CannaDrive, switching to PoS.  I am excited about where this coin is going.
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: July 21, 2014, 01:08:02 AM
At current valuation the news/social bounties are not really worth claiming.  If you consider increasing those, more people would likely claim them. 
900  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Pre-Sale] 1 oz .999 Fine Silver Physical Vericoins on: June 30, 2014, 01:29:57 AM
Can I get #95 also?
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