I gave you a merit for posting a picture with the block hash. Thank you.  It's not easy starting out here, and finding a price to settle on.  My advice is to not rush into anything, and don't let the "price commentary" get to you.  Eventually you will figure out what this piece is worth and you will find a buyer, but it will most likely involve BTC and escrow with someone like Krogothmanhattan or MJ if it's brokered over the forum.

Let's go one step further.  Please write most recent block #, and the last 6 or 8 digits of the block hash.  As was correctly brought up elsewhere this could be exploited in the future if people rely only on date + photo

Sounds like this was an exit scam, planned 5 years in advance, with the distributors on the hook.  It's quasi-legal due to the shitty EU protections for consumers, including some shitty protections for USA consumers (outside or Jurisdictions like my own).  Everyone associated with this project should be investigated, IMO.  

Please update this to include the Prypto fractional reserve redeem code scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166558.msg52901117#msg52901117

This is the last post I will make on the Prypto matter.

1. Prypto used a fractional reserve redeem code scheme to sell loaded cards, denominated in bitcoin and other cryptos.
2. Most distributors were unaware of the weaknesses of this plan.  Some were probably more intimately familiar with it than others.  The plan works like this: Pay out people slower over time, since none of the cardholders can see funds on a blockchain.  Use rest as slush fund to pump and dump your shitcoin.
3. The entire premise of having non-private key loaded cryptos is seen today as fraudulent, but the industry was not smart in 2013-2015 to see these scams ahead of time.  
4. There was never an expiration date for redemption communicated to anyone who bought the cards. The presumption was that the face value was loaded (unless otherwise specified) indefinitely
5. On August 1, 2019 - my first attempt at a refund was made.  I spent a few hours locating the cards, redeeming the codes, and generating new deposit addresses for the DOGE, LTC, and BTC.  
6. August 17 - All security codes and refund addresses were provided to WhyWeFight.  He strung me along with promises of payment.  The red flag occurred prior to this when offered a refund in CSC (and also learning CSC being linked to many people who started Prypto - whether this is true I don't really care).
7. October 7 - After my request for refund again. WhyWeFight "Hey, fuck my bad. I almost forgot. I will deal with it THIS week."
8. October 26 - I leave my Neg feedback on WhyWeFight.  I am paid out within 24 hours.  
9. According to some reports, more than 1,200 loaded Prypto cards were issued in the wild, and most of those holders are not paying attention to this forum nonsense.  Maybe they aren't DT1.  Or maybe even worse, they are planning to rely on those loaded cards for food or shelter one day.  
10. I will update feedback to reflect that Me, myself, and I was refunded, but the neg remains.  This is part of scammy behavior that needs to stop in this industry.  

Edit - I realize that WhyWeFight may be doing the right thing here, and the neg is not warranted to him if he is not behind Prypto. That may be true. If he is merely honoring an agreement between us I will revisit it, but I still believe a Neg is warranted to whoever came up with this scheme.   In my jurisdiction: A gift certificate or credit memo sold or issued for consideration in this state may not have an expiration date, or expiration, period.  (Thanks Sat0shisGhost)


Edit 2 - Seeing as how I am protected by free speech, my advice is that you and/or Duncan should be looking into defense attorneys, as well as plan on making all Prypto owners whole. Everything you have written on this thread indicates you are either Duncan, co-conspired with Duncan, or are monumentally stupid.

I was ghosted after being promised a refund from WhyWeFight. Very disappointed. Prypto is nothing more than part of a Casinocoin scammer pump and dump group. Offering my refund in Casinocoin should have been the final red flag.   They stole the funds and are trying to figure out the next steps...

I'd be interested in another hhampuz gb 

Please delete all the KYC documents for all the USA customers getting denied, including my own. Thank you.  

I can vouch this note is authentic.  The proof of purchase is a redacted color copy that I provided to Lesbian Cow (the original COA and other note belonged to me as well) which is why BitcoinSuisseAG may be suspicious of this particular lot. 

Great cause.  Thank you STEVE for doing this.

Bad idea for anyone to consider buying this without escrow.  The backup seed created for this Nano allows anyone to spend at any point. 

In honor of all the card collectors making this the #1 all time in replies for Bitcointalk Collectibles, (Casascius is #2 with 1100 replies), I've added a few special features to the OP in addition to some long overdue updates:

- PSA population counts for all cards
- Updated pricing info based on notable eBay sales (mostly Summer 2019)
- Retail packaging guide
- Formatting updates

Things in Italy move SLOW.  Two months is not that long for their gov't.  Hopefully if it's anything like USA Post Office, it's just moving through the process but on the Italian timescale.  Come back in six months 

Any coins that are DIY funded will not be favored by the collectors, especially Kialaras because he never sold them loaded.  However, if he had sold them as loaded, there's no reason why they would not command a premium similar to Cas coins.  Logically speaking, breaking the seal of a hologram is no different than breaking open a Kialara.  There would still be a secondary market for opened Kialara's similar to peeled Cas coins, depending on the rarity of the piece and how mangled it was after being "opened". 

If you start running low due to brand new accounts, you could put them on a waiting list, while keeping maybe 20 reserved for members and above.  If they wanted to get off the waiting list, perhaps they could PM you in private from their established user account.

#11 and #100 of both sets please, thank you. looks amazing

So it's only ridiculous when a non-Denarium investor and friend lowers their bid, gotcha. 

It will also be less weird if these people who are willing to overpay for your collectibles would also, you know, maybe do something other than bid in your auctions.  Perception is reality. I have no proof, and it's not worth any more time than my 0.02 of observations over the years. And a fair warning to other collectors. 

Technically the rules don't deny many, many things.   You don't need a stipulation for everything.

What's weird about this is Denarium stood to make an extra 0.4 BTC by simply letting Kebab's higher bid stand.  But they went on a limb and allowed them to lower it, against all logic and convention. Why?  

Because was a clever ruse to drum up interest and get a whale to outbid someone for #1. Nobody took the bait and FOMO bid at 0.81.  

So, they had a tough choice.  Allow the shill to lower the bid and take a reputational hit, so that someone might try to outbid the lower 0.4 instead (because 0.8 was clearly off the mark).  Neither strategies worked, and it's backfiring completely.  

Making matters worse, Lebnor wisely caught wind of this strategy, and also lowered his bid.  It wasn't until this happened that Denarium took an even bigger risk. He stepped in to change the rules for Lebnor using this strategy! Even though Lebnor was lowering it by much less than Kebab did.  Why?  Because the scam was being used against them in away they didn't anticipate (by an actual bidder).  

Lot 1 - 0.002

Lot 2 - 0.003

5 @ 1.8