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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)
are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money? i don't have a ryzen but i did the math on my 8700k. it makes .000058 BTC / day or 316 hashes on cryptov7 and costs about 7 cents to run per day giving a net profit of .44 cents. you're only looking at around +30 watts off idle so if it's on your rig or gaming computer it's running anyway. that's a ROI of just under 2 years is it worth buying tons? no. however, it does pay itself off and makes a lot of sense if you casual mine on a gaming rig saying cpu's will never have an ROI is a mathematical impossibility from what i understand ryzen v2 is better than intel from a hashing to watt perspective so if intel is a 2yr ROI the new ryzen have to be under that. not terrible. the way i see it is i may as well use it to make money when i'm not gaming |
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i just don't see how human behavior is going to change. the story that made bitcoin and litecoin in the beginning still rings true today. it literally just keeps getting better. i have thought for some time now people will go bananas when LN goes into full swing. the other thing i want to point out is look at the halving history and pricing. we have another halving due in 2 years which is going to basically double the cost of creating a new BTC. even sooner is LTC at under 500 days. i know some of you guys are pure bitcoin but i have always liked charlie and his friendly approach to LTC. can't say the same for team evil with that "other" coin.
also consider that while many people have heard of bitcoin there really aren't that many people who own even a sliver of one
the only risk i see is world governments moving against it and driving it underground and that risk seems very small. the more legitimate this market gets the more likely big hedge funds step in and the more likely we get big money to push development. maybe the end result won't be what satoshi envisioned originally but it will be better than visa and mastercard by miles
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I have this Board, it rocks for a year with 5 GPU, I discourage you to use ribbon type risers as it gets power from your mother board and burn it, use powered USB riser instead.
though I did not try them on 6 or 7 GPU due to PSU limitation 850W
oh i was only going to use a single 16x ribbon for the 16x socket. definitely aware you really don't want to run more than 2 cards on the board directly 24-7 for that very reason. other 4 cards are going to be on 009 risers from the 1x slots. do you guys usually use like one cable per two 1x riser cards via molex? i've seen posts of some people trying a 1x riser in the 16x slot but they also often complain of issues and a loose fit. my only concern is enabling the 16x at 16x may run me short on pci-e lanes. i can't find anyone who makes a 16x plug for the board that goes to a standard powered riser hmm. do you think i'm better off just trying to secure a 1x powered riser into the 16x slot along with the 1x slots now you have me thinking about pcie lanes i have a seasonic prime platinum 1000w for power. was going to check the wattage and see what i get with 5x1070 + the 4790 cpu. not sure if i can really push for a 6th card without going over 80% rated power. would like to say at 60-70% |
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I have tried the z97 chipset from Asus and up to 6 cards works great, I don't know if you can put 7 in here as it has room and slots for seven.
For the risers use 009s
sweet, thank you. i did exactly that and ordered the newest ubit 009 riser. not sure if that led is really worth anything to have but it seemed cool. i have 5x1070s right now so if 6 is possible that's even better. |
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For now, the ROI is very very very low.
did you see the price to hash on these? it's really not that big of a worry. 1800-2000 dollars + shipping + customs for what? roughly 6x580s and i suspect you could get those 6 580s better tuned, you also get a 3yr warranty and better resale. maybe the asic will be more energy efficient at 800w but it's not going to be a lot. the rx580 if prices normalize should be a $230-299 card. at 300 each you have 6x300 + 200 for a mb/cpu/ram which is 2k. add in $200-220 for a nice 1000-1200psu and there you are. very comparable prices |
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quick question on multi gpu setups. haven't had to do this one yet and am curious if anyone knows the GPU limit. if not no biggie, i can find out. second question is with risers. can i use an unpowered 16x ribbon from 16x-1 to the gpu then 4 powered risers from the 1x slots to make a 5 card gpu rig? haven't found jack online about this board and have one on the way from an RMA'd system and a spare 4790 chip couple potentially relevant specs about it Multi-GPU Support Supports NVIDIA® Quad-GPU SLI™ Technology Supports AMD Quad-GPU CrossFireX™ Technology Supports AMD 3-Way CrossFireX™ Technology Expansion Slots 2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8) 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode) 4 x PCIe 2.0 x1  |
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It is a gamble to send fake data and find your account frozen at a later point of distribution. For sure not an easy task checking IDs from dozens of countries.
x2 this is the bottom line |
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social media will expand. the ad issue and some crackdowns were warranted. there are tons of scams in the crypto world and a lot of shady people. the winklevoss twins have the right idea. coinbase is looking to register with the SEC. we need some degree of regulation to keep the criminals out. if this doesn't happen you will never have mainstream adoption
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long term, i can tell you why. i sent a friend of mine $20 in btc the other day
it cost me .06 cents to do in miner fees
absolutely no other payment method is that cheap. what i want to see happen is a real lightning network that can speed transactions to under 1 minute.
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best theory i have heard is taxes. lot of people made a lot of money in 2017. last minute tax sales to pay the gov seem likely. notice this all started toward the end of march. if this is the case what we're seeing is a bottom tracing out. perhaps a retest of that 5900 low and a consolidation base is built. i don't personally subscribe to the 80% bubble correction theory as we keep seeing buyers step in under 7k fairly regularly on every plunge so far
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best theory i have heard is taxes. a LOT of people made money in 2017 and now owe substantial tax to the .gov. it makes sense they would be selling remaining holdings to pay the tax burden.
theory 2 is the technical one and looking for the 80% bubble correction which is btc 4kish people always buy early so maybe 5k ?
most pressing concern i have is mining. it's borderline unprofitable right now. 500+ ROI times and with difficulty likely up over those 500 days & next gen equipment on the horizon you're by far better off buying coins direct than mining right now
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it will cost you a few dollars at most to install a 20a 230v outlet. check your local codes but you literally only need a 20a breaker or {30a &10ga}, 12ga wire and the outlet. it took me maybe an hour to install one in my home. if you're tech savvy enough to run an s9 installing a breaker is even easier. make sure to do it during the day as you have to kill the main breaker to do it and won't have any artificial light. a $10 book will hold your hand through the whole process
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it's a lazy solution to a real problem. twitter is basically a useless cesspool for crypto. there are more scams than actual discussions. the crazy part is this ad ban doesn't address the vast number of phishers out there.
if someone said send me a $100 bill and i'll send you 5 $100 bills back no one would buy it. apparently in crypto people are that gullible or the scammers wouldn't be doing it
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FB and twitter are cesspools. twitter by a mile is worse. too much bot marketing. FB has god knows how many political bots making statements for one party or the other. twitter is flooded with scams. thousands of crypto scams are on twitter and the company does nothing about it. many are quite elaborate networks of 500+ accounts that phish noobs
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the part that worries me about crypto in general is that technical analysis actually works. it really doesn't in securities unless there is a fundamental catalyst.
that last part is what i want to see happen. make LN functional. get real social adaptation
support and resistance trading in BTC is easier than it should be
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you're still early. it's not mainstream yet. if the price goes up so often does the mining equipment. if the price goes down difficulty goes down if fewer people are around.
i would bet heavily on crypto being bigger in 2020 than it is today and if you agree what else is there to debate?
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but officer, she said she was 18 !!
c'mon
it matters...
disclaimer. after age 25 it matters a lot less
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it should be abolished and or preserved for social revenge acts in cases like mass murderers. vegas shooter type scenarios where there is absolutely no doubt. why? because the justice system isn't perfect and executing ONE innocent throws the whole argument on its head and makes the country guilty of the same crime it is trying to punish. life in prison IS the death penalty and it's often times cheaper. it also gives the innocent some chance of proving that they are and some have done exactly that.
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1. you have to separate religion from god. they are not the same
once you have done this you get left with a very real question which is simply: is there more?
the scientific answer is : we don't know
if you're 100% science, it ends here; but many of us feel, suspect, guess and see things that hint at there being more in the universe than just carbon based life. i find that when you remove religion from the god debate it becomes far more fascinating
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