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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I left HyperFund - Grab Popcorn - Greedy Dev - Screenshots Inside on: June 01, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Toky says he didn't dump all his coins (or try and get others to dump their coins), yet he does everything possible to ruin this coin.

I call bullshit.

Both of you are bullshit. Shame for the community in general.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I left HyperFund - Grab Popcorn - Greedy Dev - Screenshots Inside on: June 01, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
Tokioghetto; you think people will trust you? Come on, your silly name makes a clear warning.

You hurt your "rep" with this topic. Its like "wow i discovered a scam, i hired rigs and now im screwed" but then you think " lets try to partner with the scammer and get some money out of it" after that doesnt work "im fucked by the scammer and he uses me". Shame, big shame.

Hyper is just a big joke, you know it, but for some coins you will help them. Im sure this coin is part of the xlb,xc,boost,cinni,sync, and so on group. Since atc found at that the drk devs could make 1.5 mil with thin air, hes now trying to so the same with different setups. Think everyone qnd dont support poor souls, tokioghetto included.
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 03:18:26 PM
Did I understand it correctly, coin code (x11 + pos) was coded by a contractor, and "xcode" is coded by atcsecure?

Hiring a contractor to start your coin is ok in itself I guess, but what happens when you run into problems with the coin code and the contractor is fully booked for a week?

Than you pretend to be someone else. Come on. Most people think they know who he is, but have still no clue. There is no chance anyone will code what he wants. Hes buying time untill everything vanish in the air. At leas id fraud is something you could use in a case..

When he didnt "gave up" his anonymous  on purpose, it would be way different. I wonder what homelandsecurity will do with this guy if we can find him.

Edit; only one thing that atcsecure can code, his passwords.
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't believe warned!: XLB and XC SCAM (proof INSIDE ) same goes soon for DRK on: May 30, 2014, 02:37:32 PM
most of the new (XLB,XC,NAUT) pump & dump coins are scam, in my opinion - the BLACK COIN is the most safe investment in the short/long time...

And atcsecure is the first who dares to drag in a legit company and pretend to be someone else. Fraud. This will backfire really hard.
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 02:30:39 PM
Real atc; http://www.atcassociates.com/locations.asp

Fake atc; http://www.atccorp.net/contact.html

They set up fake linkedin for bot atc and dan. Just call the real atc and you will get the truth.

I cannot believe i am the first one who did this. People who invested in this aer turris, its  now up to you.

Now you guys are REALLY reaching, it's sad. Maybe he has a fake birth certificate too!

Who do you mean with he? Dan is a myth. The real person behind atc will be revealed sooner than you wish. And he deserves.
246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't believe warned!: XLB and XC SCAM (proof INSIDE ) same goes soon for DRK on: May 30, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
Real atc; http://www.atcassociates.com/locations.asp

Fake atc; http://www.atccorp.net/contact.html

They set up fake linkedin for bot atc and dan. Just call the real atc and you will get the truth.

I cannot believe i am the first one who did this. People who invested in this aer turris, its  now up to you.

247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 11:39:41 AM
Real atc; http://www.atcassociates.com/locations.asp

Fake atc; http://www.atccorp.net/contact.html

They set up fake linkedin for bot atc and dan. Just call the real atc and you will get the truth.

I cannot believe i am the first one who did this. People who invested in this aer turris, its  now up to you.
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
So I am pasting this here since a legitimate question such as this cannot be asked in the XC thread and gets immediatelly deleted by the moderators.

Here's a recent statement by the XC developer.

Quote
This completely decentralized solution is the objective of the REV2 release - each week, we will be releasing an update that improves on the previous release. I am looking forward to bringing this solution to the community and in parallel to this effort I am continuing to push into the other solutions previously mentioned. These other ideas and concepts require a business like mindset to be accomplished and bring to market. Those pieces will slowly come together over the next several months.

100% of my time & energy is focused into this vision, and making it a success. This is the reason why I have been less active online recently and I don't want to end up divorced over this as my wife says she hasn't seen me in over a month.

A lot has been accomplished in a very, very short amount of time, and its been an interesting adventure so far. I want to thank all of those who have helped make that happen. Rome wasn't built in a day but I'm confident in the solution and vision.

Thank You,

ATCSECURE

Why was the initial statement about working anonymous transactions and xnodes changed from three weeks time to "Those pieces will slowly come together over the next several months".

Wasn't the excitement about the coin and big price surge mainly due to the fact that the implementation was supposed to be in an advanced state already and ready to be released in just a few weeks?

Isn't the sudden change of the timeframe admitting to lying to the community and inverstors about the state the coin is?

If you pretent to master something, but you dont, you race against the clock and have to count on others. He finds out now that its nearly impossible to find a programmer mastering the skills. Bluffpoker?
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 11:16:46 AM
Check his first posts in this forum, you will find one where he wrote what atc really means:

Asic technology company (atc)

Check google for atc secure, you will find "his" twitter acc and his picture.

Compare the picture with "dan" working at "atc, software corp", linkedin.

Can someone check if atccorp is a real company in coc database? I think he just changed the initial idea for asic technology company (he wrote it about one year ago, while "dan" works at atc corp for 3 year plus following his linkedin). Beside this, atccorp is a woman owned enterprise according to "about us" on their website.

Im quite sure both dan and atccorp are fake and they use adam (who recently went to deepspace) for their clones. It would  be a nice breaktrough if we can prove nor dan nor atccorp are real, and people can start finding the real fraudulent identity (if dan appears to be fake, atcsecure is a hardcore scammer). He made too many faults so it shouldnt be hard to find the real atcsecure...

My advise to big bagholders: make sure you have a copy from his posthistory since you can find a lot of details you can use when you want to trace him. Quite sure he will remove soon.

I just googled "atc secure" nothing you are talking about showed up.  Can you provide a link to what you are talking about?

Atcsecure, google without space.. For the linkedin, check cinnicoin offical twitter.

Edit; https://mobile.twitter.com/atcsecure

If you are bagholder, make sure you capture everything .
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XC COIN VS DARK COIN - THE RACE FOR ANON - WHO WILL WIN???? on: May 30, 2014, 11:02:06 AM
BOST X13 coin will also have anon soon according to the dev...

I hope people learned their lession after cinni, xlb, xc... Al lot talking, but for less than one btc you will not get anon function in your clonecoin... Looks like one group throws a lot of horses in the game and we cannot deny they, untill now, know how to mislead people here. Boost coin ; why would a serious dev put 24 hour volume in title, and change it after each increase (apart from the fact that its not correct at all) ?
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 30, 2014, 10:40:40 AM
Check his first posts in this forum, you will find one where he wrote what atc really means:

Asic technology company (atc)

Check google for atc secure, you will find "his" twitter acc and his picture.

Compare the picture with "dan" working at "atc, software corp", linkedin.

Can someone check if atccorp is a real company in coc database? I think he just changed the initial idea for asic technology company (he wrote it about one year ago, while "dan" works at atc corp for 3 year plus following his linkedin). Beside this, atccorp is a woman owned enterprise according to "about us" on their website.

Im quite sure both dan and atccorp are fake and they use adam (who recently went to deepspace) for their clones. It would  be a nice breaktrough if we can prove nor dan nor atccorp are real, and people can start finding the real fraudulent identity (if dan appears to be fake, atcsecure is a hardcore scammer). He made too many faults so it shouldnt be hard to find the real atcsecure...

My advise to big bagholders: make sure you have a copy from his posthistory since you can find a lot of details you can use when you want to trace him. Quite sure he will remove soon.
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XC COIN VS DARK COIN - THE RACE FOR ANON - WHO WILL WIN???? on: May 30, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
Now serious:

Drk: has something


Yes a shitload of pre/instamine  Shocked

That was not the question. You can start a new topic about the instamine vs insider information fraud...
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XC COIN VS DARK COIN - THE RACE FOR ANON - WHO WILL WIN???? on: May 30, 2014, 12:50:13 AM
Thread title is incorrect Dan  Cool

Darkcoin vs Fedoracoin PumnDump Shitclone.

Thanks for making a fool out of any competition for Darkcoin going forward too. This was a great advertisement for Darkcoin. Post #5 and Post #9 on Darkcoin thread will be remembered for a very long time. Keep trying. Hopefully you are able to get some sleep some nights.  Grin Grin Good luck to you and your hoodlum pals. You are gonna need it  Tongue

Hey it's slapper Smiley great you could make it, i knew you'd show Smiley  a known hardcore dark supporter.

See how hostile these drk supporters are, i mean you ask a question and they get all grumpy and touchy.

Look slapper my old pal, this is not to drag up the past of drk again. Let's put all that behind us it's been covered enough. I know you probably won't have any answers that contain reason based upon evidence or anything like that, but still let's concentrate on the tech side here.

So again xc vs drk....... which of these will shine over the other when they get implemented to a full working version?

Anyone out there that has studied both concepts and thinks one is better than the other? or are both equally up to the task?

So fedora was first out with the mixer? did it do the job? why has the coin vanished since then. Seems to have died out?

Let's keep it to a serious discussion if possible ..hopefully some devs will turn up to comment.

I don't personally care too much about anon, but still be good to hear different views based upon a deeper understanding of the methods of making tx anon.




You are playing a bluff game, dont forget you are not playing poker. Once (soon) you have to show your cards.

Now serious:

Drk: has something
Xc : has nothing

Its like xc still has to build a car while already schedule a race. At least this is the world upside down;)

Personally i think drk will loose the race from others and xc will never race at all.
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 29, 2014, 11:53:56 PM


Its not at the moment because of fucking scams like XC. Everything else is a complete fucking rip-off from darkcoin, DarkSend will be too.


Darksend is at heart a basic coin mixer, I thought coin mixers were shit so what's the problem of releasing the source?

Also if there is one ultimate reason to audit the code...is to know that BOTH Evan or Dan aren't fed honey pots

To make something like coinjoin work is problematic for various reasons as it has many weaknesses and requires multiple work-arounds or tradeoffs.

There is a reason why coins that try to do what DRK has done, fail. Libertycoin hired a dev with a bounty and failed. They are assigning it to "chinese software company". XC is just a centralized mixer a la fedoracoin. Who has decentralized mixer? Oh, yes, noone except Darksend.

DarkSend will be opensourced after RC4 + bugfixes. That's the public development plan.

Asic technology company (atcsecure) is racing against the clock. If one cannot code, instead creates fake id to gain some trust, and try to create decentralized coin mixer, what is the chance he can find someone capable doing it? As far as i found, this is nearly impossible in a reasonable timespan...

As Anonymint said: Coinjoin is a can of worms to make it work.

Evan has been trying various versions since February and altering the code continuously so that problems arising in one implementation can be fixed in the next one. There is "somewhat" of an experiential knowledge headstart in this department. If XC dev is legit and he tries to do what he promises to do, expect problems of one sort or the other that will need time to get fixed. It's not something that can be done in a week or two. If the price gets ahead of the product, then people will declare it problematic even if it is in active development.

If you would need to outsource this, what would is cost roughly and could you get it perfect working guaranteed?
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uncensored XC thread on: May 29, 2014, 11:37:07 PM


Its not at the moment because of fucking scams like XC. Everything else is a complete fucking rip-off from darkcoin, DarkSend will be too.


Darksend is at heart a basic coin mixer, I thought coin mixers were shit so what's the problem of releasing the source?

Also if there is one ultimate reason to audit the code...is to know that BOTH Evan or Dan aren't fed honey pots

To make something like coinjoin work is problematic for various reasons as it has many weaknesses and requires multiple work-arounds or tradeoffs.

There is a reason why coins that try to do what DRK has done, fail. Libertycoin hired a dev with a bounty and failed. They are assigning it to "chinese software company". XC is just a centralized mixer a la fedoracoin. Who has decentralized mixer? Oh, yes, noone except Darksend.

DarkSend will be opensourced after RC4 + bugfixes. That's the public development plan.

Asic technology company (atcsecure) is racing against the clock. If one cannot code, instead creates fake id to gain some trust, and try to create decentralized coin mixer, what is the chance he can find someone capable doing it? As far as i found, this is nearly impossible in a reasonable timespan...
256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 10:13:17 PM
we're supposed to believe a website called cryptopump lol

Yep.

You were offered to review the code yourself. You refused. Thus any credibility you may have had regarding the selection of peers that vetted the code is shot.

You cqn be very hqppy that not everyone is corrupt. Good night.
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
we're supposed to believe a website called cryptopump lol

Yep.

You offered to review the code yourself. You refused. Thus any credibility you may have had regarding the selection of peers that vetted the code is shot.

Abinito, I thought you promised to leave?
.

You didnt answer my question... Though, ill consider your silence as a yes and we will see what people think about it later. Good night and good luck.
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 10:02:19 PM
we're supposed to believe a website called cryptopump lol

Yep.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 10:01:03 PM
where is the review that the dev promised the article cannot be taken seriously guys cmon...

Hi Abinto.

One account is enough Wink.
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 09:50:01 PM
Teka, can we get an update from the dev about the eta of the code peak?

We have decided to get devs to look at it: #XC PEER REVIEW NR1: http://cryptopump.info/x11-coin-xc-its-secure-and-unique-mixer-implementation/ keeps the code closed but reviewed. The dev is also willing to let Abinito look at the code/.

??

"Basicly anyone selling his doges now for under .00000100 shouldnt have them."

Thanks for the Doge advice Abinto.

That time, you would have made a nice profit;). Although, it was the first and last time i joined spreading " positive" fud.
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