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We are tracking (the premine) this through a robust accounting plugin that takes information from the teams's reporting and aggregates that to a pie chart and itemized list, with blockchain confirmations for each payout or transaction. This will be available to the public to see this upcoming week (Jason, can you clarify that please) and we just have a few more tweaks to make for perfection. This will be a new page on our website  How is this coming along? I think more info on this would also inform the people posting just above me. Are you still expecting to get it up and running for the public this week? |
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We are tracking this through a robust accounting plugin that takes information from the teams's reporting and aggregates that to a pie chart and itemized list, with blockchain confirmations for each payout or transaction. This will be available to the public to see this upcoming week (Jason, can you clarify that please) and we just have a few more tweaks to make for perfection. This will be a new page on our website That's great news. More transparency will result in more confidence. I can't help but think that maybe all my comments a few weeks ago may have helped push you guys in the right direction. You guys have made progress on every front. Nice work, mining iCoin again. tick |
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Hi guys. I just thought that iCoin could do with a little suggestion. Have a look at NobleCoin and how many merchants they have. They look like they are going places, maybe you could approach some of the same merchants that sell the little known noblecoin and see if they would accept iCoin. noblecoin thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.0 |
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We will start by executing social media and PR/article release campaigns to websites and publications that may have mentioned Bitcoin/Litecoin in the past but don't neccessarily have a devoted interest to cryptocurrencies. (Banking/Finance/Business/Popular Trends niches) and upon gathering widespread attention, we will have a seamless process of educating those who are new to digital currency on our new website, as they download their wallets. Furthermore, we will have a video series focused on tutorials and support for the general consumers / merchants as well That's our strategy in a nutshell. There's obviously other moving pieces involved and it gets a bit more granular, but I hope that gives you a general idea. Nice. Looking forward to seeing it all in action, and seeing the price of my coins go up and up. |
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It's also unfair to compare iCoin to "traditional" alternative currencies as our marketing strategy will rely heavily on introducing new users outside of the core cryptocurrency community, whom many of which will likely not even know what "digital currency, scrypt, Litecoin, or mining is In all fairness though, it is completely fair to compare iCoin to its direct competitors. Just because you may have a different marketing strategy doesn't make the coin any different. Out of curiosity though, how do you plan on introducing iCoin to the unwashed masses? |
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What are the next steps you guys have planned for promotion?
I know that the new website is almost online, but how do you plan on really getting it out there? Are you working on creative competitions and viral marketing strategies?
Do you have a one month plan? a six month plan? What can we expect to see and when can we expect to see it?
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Good job guys.
Nice to see the promotions are getting under way.
I'm not being as negative as I used to be because you guys are making a lot of progress and spending that premine well.
Now, please make iCOin worth $1 each. That would be nice.
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i tired but no point, i just put 9000 kh/s into it on the top hash rate pool on the list on front page, after 50 minutes of not hitting a block i gave up
I found this pool to work very reliably for me. http://speedminer.org |
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It's getting more and more boring with your posts.
You're not going to bully me off the forum and I'm not going to get into a flame war with you. My comments have all been in the best interest of the community, not your wallets. Edit: I want iCoin to succeed too. To do that it needs to stick to it's #1 goal. |
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@fablkak
Most of coins has premine and no one knows where it goes. Not only iCoin but also for another coins. If you agree to join the boat, you have to accept it. Or just quit, it's simple, i feel bored with lot of your posts. I think you better stop asking and showing Devs what to do with the premine. This is not your coin. If you really want do it your way, start a new coin then you have 100% control of it (are you trying to steal the "icoin" name? you are not able to find a good name so how can you do a good coin?). Best luck to you!
For me as long as the coin brings profit then it's ok. I invested in iCoin and with current market price i already have 125% profit. I'm very happy with this. But this is just bottom price, iCoin value will x10 in near future and may x100 when become mainsteam. This coin will be my long term investment.
Well iCoin price is up day by day. It's worth to invest and mining now.
ps: still no plan on IPO Devs?
Like I said, it was all constructive criticism. You obviously just want post positive comment after positive comment. Well this is a forum, and the definition of a forum is: "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged". That is exactly what I am doing, exchanging ideas. To address your point about the premine, well as I have pointed out in earlier posts this 1% is actually a lot larger than most premines because it represents 1% of coins to be mined over 900 years. If you were of a suspicious disposition you may attribute this misleading premine to be a product of design rather than happenstance. This puts an inordinate amount of power in the hands of one person who has chosen to remain anonymous and is reluctant to adopt transparency while at the same time asking for trust. I think some progress is being made in this area but it is still a legitimate concern. Telling me to just "go away" so you can make more money with (potentially) misplaced confidence is not going to work. Any rational investor would see all that power in the hands of a mystery man as a real risk. Personally I would not trust some random guy on the internet to have such a large influence on the value of any coins that I buy/mine. I have suggested ways to mitigate this risk for the benefit of the coin but you're not interested because you just want more people to pump before you dump. iCoin BcFp3aHNtepyZtrZhwqkfivmrHffUkyrhL btc 1HYk5tHcx1RBnXYsNkTpqaZ7VHsm1Ng31L |
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@fablkak, We understand your concern and despite CaptainHook's initial response, your constructive criticism is well accepted on my end. There are many members and many working parts dedicated to making iCoin a soaring success. Our premine distribution strategy and terms will be fully transparent on our new website (launching very soon!), and if you have specific questions and concerns in the meantime, feel free to PM me or Viperbass with those, and I'd love nothing more than to provide as much clarity as possible, and earning your respect as a valued member of the iCoin community. Again, transparency and trust are absolutely important factors for iCoin, but please forgive us as up until recently we had not developed a strategy for premine awareness and implementation. Look forward to talking soon! - BigRidg Well put. That is exactly the attitude the coin needs! I like you already BigRidg7. ps: Nice to see that my 100% negative comments like these ones from the 29th https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=407866.msg4812556#msg4812556 have been of some use. |
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Please always bring up issues that are client related and any ideas on how you think we can improve things to gain trust with the community.
I have started to mine this coin again. Getting decent returns on cryptorush. Speaking of trust, I was looking through the blockchain and I noticed that the premine has gone through many accounts and ended up here BU4CXgxwCe1jxQFTXKKpT2gbsnpJBa1Kk9 We can see that there is exactly this many coins remaining 4515468.9995 ICOIN (which is what you guys said it was) If one was to look through the blockchain you can see when and where all the transactions occurred. If the dev wanted to build a little trust he could break them down for us and explain where the 500,000 or so coins went. They sure as hell weren't spend on promotion. In future if the dev was also transparent about transactions then he would gain a lot of trust. Please I mean more than just "spent on give aways and promotion" I mean verifiable details. If he is not able to properly account for all of them well... that doesn't look good. It might not be my place to ask for this, but if you want some trust then this is one way to gain a little. This is what the community needs to see: from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx to address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX amount: 30,000 reason: web page design from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx to address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX amount: 200,000 reason: joining dev team etc etc... Just to account for the majority of the 500k. That would make me feel better anyway, and the community would see it as an early warning sign if the dev starts to dump. If Viperbass informs me the dev is a dumper I am ready to start a new iCoin, I have pm'd Viperbass but he hasn't responded. I will also be very transparent with the community by giving out my real identity and anyone else who joins the team will need to do the same. Out of respect I am holding back to give this developer a chance to prove himself. The iCoin name must live on. My answer to you: NO to all of your requests. If you not feeling good, just leave the train. It seems you are trying to scare us, right? We don't care what is your real identity, it's nothing to us or iCoin community. And we don't need you to give us a chance too. If you can make a coin or anything like that, just do, we just don't care whatever you do. I just do research that those accounts with negative comments are just cloned accounts which 100% of their posts in this thread only and are trying to take over the coin or spreading negative news. Actually i ignored all your posts since the coin released, i won't be effected by your posts. By the way, Viberpass is working as our PR excutive, not founder of iCoin. I and Viberpass, as well as others in team are working closely to push up iCoin to be mainsteam coin. We are very busy planning a long term plan for iCoin, building services as well as rolling out biggest promotion in next few days. We don't have time to please some people just sitting there with no help and asking too much. captainhook I think you mistake constructive criticism for some kind of an attack. If you had actually bothered to read my posts then you would see that I am pointing out legitimate fears and concerns that the community has. But I suppose that reading through forums isn't your job. What is your job by the way? Other than holding onto 4 million coins. Miners and investors alike try to make informed decisions on theirs investments because we want to avoid bad bets. I represent your average cautious miner/investor. I pointed our to others that the premine combined with a slow release rate is actually about two to three months worth of mining and I even proposed some ways in which you can allay these fears by spending and distributing the premine. I pointed out that it was unusual that for a premine of this size there were no plans to spend it and I believe I may have provided some impetus to move you along in this direction where your team has made progress. I also pointed out that I was having a problem sending coins. That seems to have been resolved but the wallet is still unstable and comes up with an error message when I close it. Lastly, when I directly respond to a request from a member of your team who was asking for ways to increase trust I gave a suggestion. It wasn't an attack it was advice, advice which I dare say you needed to hear and failed to heed. After pointing out most of the my concerns I had people telling me to leave the forum. Well I can tell you that for every shill telling me to bugger off there were probably another ten that wanted to hear it. Criticism might not be good for the people that just want positive comment after positive comment for a pump and dump scheme or something, but a little criticism can be a good thing if you're actually trying to improve. As I have pointed out, all of my concerns have been legitimate and the next time I have a legitimate concern you can bet your ass I'm going to point it out too. I don't think that anyone could read through my posts and honestly accuse me of being a cloned spam account or something. That was a foolish thing to say. All in all captainhook I say that that was a very unprofessional reply to someone that is actually trying to help the community. Not you, the community. To viperbass and other members of iCoin. Thank you for being professional and transparent. Knowing that viperbass has 571k made me breath a sigh of relief. So now the prmine has moved to this account BcD7WGWKua7p7x8RZj3ctqnYsBTsPheZ5J and it has shrunk big time to exactly 4015468.9995 ICOIN. So, lets break it down because this IS something the community needs to see. From an initial premine of 5M, 571K went to viperbass and there is 4M remaining... Where did the other 429,000 go? I think 30k was spent on a website. People joining the team might have all got 100,000 each or something. Which is fine, so long as we know where it is... which we don't, and if the response of captainhook is anything to go by then we can expect more secrecy regarding the 80% of the remaining premine. captainhook there is a saying that you might not be familiar with, an honest man has nothing to hide. I believe that if you were honest you would not have squandered the opportunity I gave you to gain trust, which in case you haven't noticed is something you are a little short on at the moment. My advice to the community now is to watch the money. If captainhook won't tell us where he is spending it we have to try and figure it out for ourselves. Now to leave you all with a little joke, here is something from the icoin website. If this is what happened to #1 I feel sorry for whatever happened to #2 onwards, probably abandoned at birth and left bleeding from their umbilical cord in a ditch somewhere.  Edit: apologies for getting slightly more vitriolic than I intended. It's just that captainhook's attitude of hypocrisy, wilful ignorance and unprofessionalism really irks me. "Trust me, I'm not a scammer. Would a scammer say that?" fablkak iCoin BcFp3aHNtepyZtrZhwqkfivmrHffUkyrhL btc 1HYk5tHcx1RBnXYsNkTpqaZ7VHsm1Ng31L |
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Please always bring up issues that are client related and any ideas on how you think we can improve things to gain trust with the community.
I have started to mine this coin again. Getting decent returns on cryptorush. Speaking of trust, I was looking through the blockchain and I noticed that the premine has gone through many accounts and ended up here BU4CXgxwCe1jxQFTXKKpT2gbsnpJBa1Kk9 We can see that there is exactly this many coins remaining 4515468.9995 ICOIN (which is what you guys said it was) If one was to look through the blockchain you can see when and where all the transactions occurred. If the dev wanted to build a little trust he could break them down for us and explain where the 500,000 or so coins went. They sure as hell weren't spend on promotion. In future if the dev was also transparent about transactions then he would gain a lot of trust. Please I mean more than just "spent on give aways and promotion" I mean verifiable details. If he is not able to properly account for all of them well... that doesn't look good. It might not be my place to ask for this, but if you want some trust then this is one way to gain a little. This is what the community needs to see: from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx to address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX amount: 30,000 reason: web page design from address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx to address XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXX amount: 200,000 reason: joining dev team etc etc... Just to account for the majority of the 500k. That would make me feel better anyway, and the community would see it as an early warning sign if the dev starts to dump. |
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How to make a new coin? Easy. 1. Pay 0.05btc to coingen 2. There is no step 2.  But, seriously, we have already got lots and lots of clone coins, and we don't really need more. Thank you for your useless advice. I look forward to proving you wrong. |
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My husband and I want to start selling our items for iCoins, in Germany this coin is going to be big, the other coin names are just silly for us.
Is there auction house that have iCoin as payment option?
Also my husband and I can do translations if you need.
Please pm me
Thank you kindly.
Really? that's your first post? Does anyone else smell a fake account? Also, has this coin forked or something recently? I sent a transaction three days ago and it still isn't confirmed. Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 31/01/2014 18:36 From: BcFp3aHNtepyZtrZhwqkfivmrHffUkyrhL To: BWE5VKBE4DzyExFKqV8tLtvDdhEnNZ7UMx Debit: -500.00 ICOIN Net amount: -500.00 ICOIN Is something broken? If I was you I would sell out your iCoin on the exchanges while you still can. I don't think anything further is going to happen here. Good idea, go sell yourself and get out of this thread instead of spreading negative comments. The iCoin community doesn't welcome you. You didn't think that was a very suspicious first post? "I find all other coins silly and I want to start selling all my things for this brand new coin that has been plagued with premine and mistrust issues" Yeah ok, not a sus first post at all. I'm not trolling. I updated my client no more than a week ago and it isn't sending coins. I was just checking if it was working for anyone else because the client isn't working for me. The community should welcome legitimate bug reports not quell them. I lost 500 icoins because of this bug and thought maybe people should know about it. Sorry for trying to point out potential software problems and obvious fake accounts. Edit: The transaction just went through! (days later) Edit 2: Those are nice exchange prices, selling 500 for 0.0009 on indie exchange. |
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You know Google, right? http://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/First thing that popped up, alon with several other tutorials, but just changing the basic parameters, won't make your coin uniqe. If you really want your coin to establish, I'd say, you give at least an announcment several weeks ahead, where you already state your uniq features in a whitepaper. Nothing should be premined and as many people as possible should start with the same conditions. The coins should not all be mined within a timeframe of less than 3-4years, even that seems pretty fast. Don't expect your coin to "make it" (overtake bitcoin) in less than 5 years, it took btc 5 years to be where it is now. Even IF your coin is superior, this is still the crypto market...it's unpredictable. But a successful visionary, we all know, once said: “The People Who Are Crazy Enough to Think They Can Change the World, Are the Ones Who Do.” what is this google of which you speak? Nice link, reading through it now. I appreciate you other advice too although that kind of big picture stuff I have already got my head around. I have been mining for a few months and been reading a lot of the forums about startup coins. Like any successful venture it has to start with a bit of research and I'm really just in the early stages of that. I don't think there is a problem with a small premine so long as it is small enough to be negligible only a few days/weeks after launch. Furthermore I think that a premine spent largely on promotion and distributed within the first two weeks or so, with enough left over for a bounty or two isn't a bad thing if it is done in an upfront and transparent way. Having a little premine spent on promotion increases the value coins held much more so than the small inflationary effect it may have. I am not going to claim superiority to bitcoin or any other coin, only that it is fundamentally different in more than just name and block specifications. I'm pretty sure I have figured out a way to do something really special with only a few modifications but you will have to wait and see. Pre launch announcement is still months away. |
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My husband and I want to start selling our items for iCoins, in Germany this coin is going to be big, the other coin names are just silly for us.
Is there auction house that have iCoin as payment option?
Also my husband and I can do translations if you need.
Please pm me
Thank you kindly.
Really? that's your first post? Does anyone else smell a fake account? Also, has this coin forked or something recently? I sent a transaction three days ago and it still isn't confirmed. Status: 0/unconfirmed Date: 31/01/2014 18:36 From: BcFp3aHNtepyZtrZhwqkfivmrHffUkyrhL To: BWE5VKBE4DzyExFKqV8tLtvDdhEnNZ7UMx Debit: -500.00 ICOIN Net amount: -500.00 ICOIN Is something broken? |
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Not another coin!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdZhhV0AyAAnswer this one question HONESTLY: WHY do you want to start another coin? Are you REALLY trying to contribute to crypto by bringing yet another currency to a market of 100 other currencies and therefor mixing up that landscape even more, making a solid adoption for the broad masses more and more difficult? Or are you in it to try and get some quick money out of it by stating a bunch of fake benefits and having 90% of the coin premined for yourself? Based on the fact that you are not able to setup a new coin yourself, chances are low that you are actually contributing to crypto by trying to bring in a new coin to the game, if you really want the community to benefit, write a white-paper, and if it kicks ass, be happy if someone adopts it. Just to state my point of view, I don't want to accuse you of anything, only you know your true intentions until you share them. But I hope you can see why I am concerned about your idea/project by looking at the whole crypto-coin landscape. I can see why you are concerned, there are a lot of coins out there that are completely unoriginal. In fact the way I see it there are only really two original coins out there, bitcoin and litecoin (and one when the proof of work is actually useful there will be a another). I plan to introduce a third unique coin. I know what changes to make but I'm more of a mathematical programmer myself (I use matlab all day) and so I haven't got the skills to implement these changes just yet. One thing that I should point out is that I don't believe in "free trust" in an online anonymous community and so I completely I understand if you don't believe that I have anything original to contribute because I'm playing it very close to the chest at the moment. However, there are two sides to the coin of trust so to speak, the reason that I'm being rather secretive is simple, with so many other coins out there (and so many other people that can make it before me) I'm worried that someone will just steal the idea and implement it first. The coin will reflect this mutual mistrust and adopt a high level of transparency and a minimal premine. I have a few professional programmer friends (irl) and I was planning to get them on board however I also know that they have no experience with starting a coin either and so I thought this might be a good place to start. It still might be, I haven't called zackclark70 yet because I'm still thinking of the right questions. Ok, with or without giving away secrets on how to start a coin can anyone please answer the following. Without using a coin generator how difficult is it to change the source code yourself by the bare minimum to get a new coin? This might sound like that is what I intend to do but honestly I'm trying to figure out the amount of work involved in the whole process and this is the first part of that. Given the amount of coins out there I know it's not going to take a team of expert programmers months but I also don't know if it's a trivial matter for someone that has done it before. Change line 273 and line 8092 and you're done? Lets say you made a new coin, how would you go about setting up a "testnet"? I really do plan to make some changes and these need to be tested thoroughly pre launch. The last thing I want is a fork or a fundamental source code error that crops up one month after launch. Before the coin goes live, do you give information to pools at the last second so that they can't get in their own pre mine? Any tips on a fair launch procedure? Don't start the difficulty super low with a long diff adjustment time etc? It would suck to have done all the work to make a great coin only to have it ruined by a failed unfair launch. For now all I really want is to create an offline/private coin for testing purposes. This is step one. What might suffice for now is just modifying the litecoin code and running the whole thing on a private network. Does anyone know how I can run my own little fork of litecoin starting from block 1 on a private network? |
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Thanks man.
I'll give you a msg/call in the next few days. I have to do some more research first.
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I'm not going to go into any detail yet but I can honestly say that the coin I have plans for is more different from litecoin than litecoin is from bitcoin. All of these other coins are really just modifications to the block reward and not one of them could support what I have in mind. I'm doing a PhD in financial maths and I have something truly unique in mind, I just don't know how to do it yet.
My plans aside, I'm not here to promote a coin that doesn't exist yet. I am here to ask for advice on starting a coin because many of the fundamentals are going to be the same. I'm sure that some kind of guide to starting a coin will not only help me but also other creative people that have more in mind than rebranding the same old thing.
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