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301  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: September 16, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
The modern era makes things easier, with money then we can make money as well so in a short time then our assets will increase drastically. many things we can do, for example is buying gold, stocks and deposits.
You are 100% right it is the age of the technologies now life has become so easy that people can earn money through easy and simple ways. Now everything lies just on a click so if you have money and you want to increase it than you should invest it so in the future you will be able to get profit even without doing any hard work, so if you have good experience then you will be able to enjoy the benefit of the bitcoin.
Although this is the benefit of trading online through internet, but you have to remember after decide to sell or buy coins, you do not have chance for consider again after sold or bought! That is difference point between use your money for trading online and directly in real life Wink
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] KICKICO |ICO 29th August| PLATFORM FOR CROWDFUNDING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: September 16, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
i real proud to be one of the investor of this project waiting for the exchange to get some from the bounty hunter and the weak hands im going to full my bags of this coins.

This project really good for investor but don't think about short term, in long term you will get very good profit.
Well, KickICO is an ICO project that is interested in development long term and keep safe profit for investors. They have policies for help the price of KickICO token does not drop down by bounty hunters at first. (Frozen our reward till November Grin)
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: change banck ico - any thoughts? on: September 16, 2017, 02:48:41 PM
is somebody joining?

personally i like financial services tied to cryptos. Thus i will be joining with some eths

The idea of Change Bank project look like as Polybius and I feel surprise this project just open crowdsale in few hours has raised funds higher than 30,000 ETH. This funds proves Change Bank project is potential and attractive investors.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you picky with ICOs? on: September 14, 2017, 08:18:22 PM
I am more than picky. I have only joined a handful of them. Those that I think are really trustworthy and the pre-ICO is a very easy Buy. And i believe Everyone of us should be picky when it comes to investing in ICOs.
Not only we should consider before buy token from some ICO projects, this is the requirement if you want to invest your money to any ICO projects or any type investment. Because you are spending your money for investment, do you know it will affect your money in future?
305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: F**K Chinese BTC on: September 14, 2017, 08:14:41 PM
"Fake news going on about China banning exchanges. Its all fake and No official resources confirmed this. Market is facing crash due to panic selling. Whatever happens to china exchanges, no one can stop this crypto. We have seen after every crash, there is GREEN. So prepare yourself, and BUY cheap"

Everyone keeps saying fake news, fud, bla bla bla. How fucking hard can it be to get an official statement from the exchanges and the governing authorities about this matter?

its going to be a lot harder since they are only announcing using twitter status  Grin but then the next time they announce some bitcoin drama, be the first to dump Smiley

$1000 is pretty huge, if you just knew this would happen, i could have dumped everything.

This is why I have had short possitions on since 2nd September.  If this keeps up my position will be fantastic. (All be it at the expense of the bitcoin price)

But we are dew another dip anyway and the media is making it much more prominent that it would of been if there had been no BTCC announcment
All things are the scenario of China and whales on the crypto market, I remember earlier this month in some tweets of Charlie or someone I cannot remember exact but they revealed "this situation will happening in next time". Of course, I ready with this FUD and ready to buy back anytime Cool.
306  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: September 14, 2017, 08:09:24 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
professional traders actually lose money in trading but one thing they keep on doing and believe is that: No matter how much they loss, they believe that they will make it back. Professional traders also look at setback time as time to reshaping they trading plan and also opportunity to learn how to be patient.
to me i think professionalism cannot work in gambling, and specially if you are playing gambling on dice games, there you totally depending on your luck and if you are lucky then you will certainly make money but if you are not luck then you cannot make any money from dice games. while in games like sports you can really use your skill and experiment also.
Maybe you do not know some gambler get rich from gambling, you can check them in youtube and see their profit earned from casino. But to be honest, there are not many people become rich man from gambling, because if all gambler can get rich from this field, whom are loser for the owner that game?
307  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin so the main choice on: September 14, 2017, 08:05:43 PM
why are many people willing to drop their jobs and prefer to focus more on the world of crypto like bitcoin?

Because works, I mean many of them, are too demanding and the return in terms of salary is meager. That is disappointing and frustrating, right? After the company or your boss exploit you and your skills to the bones, they will only pay you with a speck of their income? No way. I would rather keep posting here and do trading and earn good.
If you work in signature campaign, you also work with a boss but they are owner the project you are promoting. And they will share small profit from their product to pay your work. Just when you become a trader, you are owner your job and do not need to worry someone.
308  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN DUMP - CHINESE ARE OFFLOADING... on: September 14, 2017, 08:02:33 PM
I've picked up some extra BTC over the last couple of days, in my hometown there was a local seller on LBC - a chinese man. He said he had to dump all his coins within the next couple of days and offered me 45 BTC for $150k. I don't have 150k laying around, but i picked up 3 for 10k

he said his friends had hundreds of BTC if i was interested.

Is a monster dump on the way?
yup you are right seems like monster dump on the way. Still I can't believe that only Ico banning in china made that situation in the market.Looks like hurricane came and blows away everything. Embarrassed 
Nope, the bad news China banned ICO market not enough for makes the price of Bitcoin falls down today, the main reason is an Chinese exchange Bitcoin/Altcoin BTCC have announce they will close their exchange in 30/09. Wink
309  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: September 14, 2017, 07:58:12 PM
Besides, Bitcoin is an invisible gold and do not be restricted by the customs.

Very good point! This basically allows you to bring more than 10k in "cash" around the glob in your pocket without customs having a chance to find out.. Can potentially be problematic though, helping illegal transactions.

True, and bitcoin is was very accessible than cash , you must to bring your smartphone since bitcoin wallet was installed there which you can use for buying things that you want, paying a restaurant and riding in taxi I think all of these may be implemented soon .
You have to remember when you create a transaction hash, you need to wait a time for confirm your transaction if do not want to receive double spending! If you want to replace paper money, let's use visa or mastercard, it is instantly and faster than Bitcoin.
310  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: September 10, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
Bitcoin will become global currency even though their country has not legalized bitcoin, bitcoin makes it easy for us to transact and bitcoin is also very easy to use, there is no special requirement to start using bitcoin. so bitcoin into global currency makes a very of sense.
Bit coin is becoming global currency day by day. Most of the people belonging to different countries have started investing in bit coins because they know that it is going to be the global currency which doesn’t need any legal procedures for a country to get exchanged with any of the other physical currencies.
Bitcoin already a global currency, but about the legally, it still not legal and needs government accept it is an asset legal in future. That is reason some people always warning Bitcoin and cryptocurrency world is a bubble growth. Wink
311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: September 10, 2017, 08:20:57 PM
Bitcoin can help many people. One of the main reason for criminality is money. Even the bitcoin involves money it is not the source of criminality because criminality is from the greed of people. People can earn from bitcoin that needs hard work but because of greedy people and who want to get rich instant then they can do wrong and criminality can happen.
I think these are the two things, because bitcoin is a secure source of money, and the people with criminal mind may be never stole a currency which has no physical existence. Criminal people mostly want cash and go away, but here is not the case of their choice. It will be very difficult for criminals to steal someone bitcoin wallet. So I think bitcoin and criminality are the two different things.
Although Bitcoin and criminality are difference, but the road become to criminals in Bitcoin very short. You can try download some software have malware or keylogs and save your private key wallet Bitcoin or data account exchange, bitcointalk ... have value, important, in someday, all things of you will loss all by hacker Grin
312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 10, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
If you quit trading, you will deprive yourself of a great way to earn money.
I advise you to get training and learn how to trade correctly. Then you will achieve success
By reading your comment it seems like you portray trading as something that's quite easy to do. I've never traded crypto but I'm interested in getting started. Can you give me tell me if it is worth the risk trading on a daily basis or do you recommend accumulatting and holding instead?
I wouldnt reccomend day trading. Longterm is much better. Why? Have a look at coimarketcap. Nearly all well known cryprocurrencies multiplied over months and years. So longterm would be a smart kind of traiding

Same here as mine I also prefer long term trading investments because price will seemingly increase as it took long month to gain it's demand higher. With that ample ways you can generate bigger profit as you patiently wait and quitting is not a certain decision to do. Maybe some traders got disappointed and they're just too aggressive to earn profit immediately but it's impossible.
The bloody trading now is frequently happens that let the altcoins dump more because of bitcoins and other problems i think and holding for long term will needs more patience until the altcoins get recovered. Quiting is a decision and it depends on how you trade well or not.
Sometimes, quit trading still good choice for you, because it helps you have time for think again your shortcomings and reseach some ways for improve it. As me, till today I has been quitted margin trade in 3 months, of course I do not quit all trading, but it makes me have a new look in the crypto market.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 10, 2017, 08:07:44 PM
Is Monaco a good choice to invest in ? The price isn't so stabilized, it has some problems ?
I will wait for some clear signals from the chinese for the ICO status. If its favourable to ICO, then the price will go much higher.

Well i think their ICO is just finished and i think china ico ban has no effect yet on mco becuase it is only for the icos . What could drive the price of mco goes up is the visa annoucement by the team. Lets hope that this month or by this year they will announce it. MCO is for long term holding to earn a ton of profit though

Current behavior of MCO shows that the price has stabilised .
Expecting for the VISA ann ard mid of the month and any price increase after that will be a permanent one.
Expecting abt 0.01~0.016 before end of the month

Hopefully that will happen by this month. There is no signs about getting approved by the visa our mco. Lets hope that it will be approved and i think we wait for few more months . Price is getting dump right now and i really want to sell my mco but i know i will regret it sooner
I think if Monaco has pumped to high price like @600,000 sat in recent, very difficult for it breakout new all time high price again. You have to remeber before it can breakout @150,000 sat, it has dumped -300% to @30,000 sat in few months Wink
314  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 10, 2017, 08:05:16 PM
For me I'll prefer bitcoin over gold as it's quite and thus, offers some great opportunities to earn more profit, whereas the market of gold grows very slowly and is relatively quite stable. In my opinion bitcoin investment will render more profit as compared to gold and that too in a short term of time...

Bitcoin is really good for a short term investing nowadays - because its prices is growing fast and we are still in the pioneering stage I think because I am looking at bitcoin as the future economic transactions online. Gold is stable and for long term investment but as I have said, bitcoin can also be a long term investment.
Bitcoin can become to asset for investment in long term if we can confirm Bitcoin is legal and clear. To be honest, the cryptocurrency world still quite vague and it makes many investors doubt this is a bubble like dot com or other bubbles in the past.
315  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Long Bitcoin Will Bullish on: September 10, 2017, 08:02:59 PM
Worst case scenario I can possibly imagine is a slow bleed back to the 2500 range but I doubt we'll see anything below the mid 3k's.  Certainly not a year long 5x depreciation again.
If that happens then it will certainly make some Chaos like a panic that could even make this incident worse. But I'm not sure this will happen because bitcoin prices up to now always provide stability, if seen then the increase and decrease will only move in the range of 10%.
Do you think 10% not much? Look at profit from saving in bank every year, just 7%/year you can say this is high profit. If you can earn 10% per week or per month, you are good trader and this profit is dream of almost traders from Forex or Stock market Cool
316  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we push the actual use of Bitcoin ? on: September 09, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
I think it would be through advertisement. Maybe we could advertise Bitcoin and address it to the people through television commercials, radio commercials, billboards, flyers etc. Through this, people will be curious and will research on about it.
I think there is no need to push bitcoin because the bitcoin is growing already very fast. Indeed we need to add some ad to promote bitcoin and we need to trust the process of the bitcoin and let that big campaign like signature and the PayPal increase the worth of the bitcoin so we need to work with the bitcoin and should spread it as much as we can it will make the price of the bitcoin high more and more.

This is not some religious group or movement that has to be shoved in everyone's face at the airport and it is not going to save lives or change the world. So i also feel that we do not need to push anything here. Just be calm and bitcoin will evolve by itself.
I do not know what is reason make him want push the growth of Bitcoin fast? It makes us miss opportunity buy Bitcoin cheap price before a huge of numbers investor going to invest in Bitcoin. I want have 100-1000 BTC before Bitcoin starts the road goes to the moon  Lips sealed
317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Now ETH is going down to the dip. You SOLD or HOLD? on: September 09, 2017, 04:44:28 PM
as much as possible, whenever there is a dip. I prefer to buy in instead of selling. do you know how difficult to mine ETH nowadays? it is easy to acquire it in exchange market everytime it hits below 300$. There is always a big profit, believe me.
I also bought a lot of ETH for long term investment since ETH has always been a good long term investment this year, altcoin has a lot of support from major countries in the world and this will definitely do Give ETH $ 1000 in 2018.
In my opinion, I think Ethereum can reach to $1,000 in this year if it can changes to PoS earlier than schedule and complete + the gorwth of ICO market. Therefore, the risk when we buy Ethereum usually lower than other altcoins.
318  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: September 09, 2017, 04:36:03 PM
okay all the money you put in bitcoin but the question is with the cost of your own needs or your family needs. it's better to just spend extra money on bitcoin .. just extra money only so you're not going to eat any food you're just selling.

Yeah extra money or consider putting your savings in btc as well but not all. Try to organize how you handle your expenses. If you're plannih on investing, diversify your investments. If it were to me, i'd invest largely in btc savings but i'll be open for other kind of investment as well
Investment to stable project also a type saving our money. We have many way for keep safe our money and increase our funds. Of course, do not forget the risk when investing your money to anything, because behind a huge profit always have a risk ready rob your money Tongue
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monaco Visa ICO - tomorrow - latest scam? on: September 09, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
This just showed up out of nowhere.

https://themerkle.com/monaco-visa-ico-starting-may-18th/

https://www.mona.co/

I see nothing on reddit or here.

Seems very scammy. Likely fake VISA association that TokenCard had.


if it is a scam ICO. I think they prepare very carefully with everything except marketing Cheesy

Do any of you guys actually use Monaco card? I have been looking into it and it looks really nice. So if anyone has any feedback on the card itself, please post.
Do any of you guys actually use Monaco card? I have been looking into it and it looks really nice. So if anyone has any feedback on the card itself, please post.
so this project similar Centra ICO?
Not only like Centra, Monaco, TenX, Tokencard ... are ICO project about field Visa/Mastercard. I really do not know the reason make them have same idea like that, however I also earned a good profit from Monaco, so with me this is real project Grin
320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be careful. (Newbies and others ...) on: September 09, 2017, 04:14:53 PM
I think this conditions are now different, the current user is increasing and not dominated by some people or groups. bitcoin will continue to skyrocket though sometimes down and I'm sure the price will not happen $ 3000.
Anything can happen in this market,you cannot say for certain that the price wont go back to $3000,there is a point OP made,yes we made a huge jump in price in the past few months and the rally was amazing and the flip side is that the market could go down as fast too,so be careful with your investment and in the long run it is true that the price of bitcoin will skyrocket but not at a faster pace.
I think if Bitcoin can keep its bullish trend in long term like 5-10 years or like Gold from 2010 till today, it still good. You and me also know an asset grow fast always have risk breakdown anytime and we will lose our money if it becomes the truth.
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