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1001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 03, 2014, 01:08:12 AM
thanks Catkiwi ,are you a professiionnal trader ?
if so can you make some technical analyse sometime, its always interresting to see how its going behind number (perhaps with graph) ?


Not a professional, but it is how I make my Bitcoin. Since October 2013.

I will tell you this - Expect to see some sell walls out of now which appear maybe once or twice per hour - these are attempts to induce holders to dump coins into the sell wall owners buy orders. The coin is going to test 0.03 in the next 24 hours. Not because of any amazing dev work, or community efforts, but because there is a tidy profit to be made in buying a coin cheaply (as it is now) and pumping it up 50% - It's just a fact. If you are a small fish, like myself, you will be wise to buy back in now. Ideally you bought back in when it was around 186,500 and there were some tasty sells on offer, but it is not too late.

The way the manipulators in charge of this particular coin's price direction seem to function is very much based on the performance of Blackcoin and Darkcoin and interestingly Bitcoin itself. You can get an indicator of where XC is going to go based on the rise or fall of those three coins. We discussed a few weeks ago how it is generally the same Bitcoin being moved about various coins, one goes up - the whales cash out - then they start slowly buying up their next target before they place a mammoth 100+ BTC buy wall and let others pump it up for them.

The only way to be a successful small trader is to anticipate their next pump, and it is not as hard as people make out. Look for seemingly random, medium sized buy orders ABOVE the market price spread about 2 or 3 hours apart over the space of 24 hours or more. E.g. the last sell price is 190,000 - someone buys 10 BTC up to 193,000 before the price drops back down to 190.000 again.

You may think to yourself "Huh, some fool just paid more than they needed to!" - but in reality they are the smart ones. You see they KNOW the target of the next pump, it is always a coordinated effort between the whales to ensure maximum profit among themselves - its bad for business to be fighting each other - they may give the appearance that they are fighting each other but really they are just trying to get you to move in one way or another.

If you see this sort of order over the space of 24 hours, take all of them and look at the highest price they bought at for each order - average it - then add on 50% to that (the observed amount a coin seems to pump before the dumping occurs - it is the point where two forces meet - the buyer feels confident that the coin has risen to much to crash and must be a sign its about to "go to the moon" - the seller feels confident that a 50% profit is worth selling 100% of their stash.). Now back track 10%. Between 40 and 50% the whales have quietly been dumping their coins on the buyers who buy without any regard to common sense - they are blinded by greed and will munch through thousands of dollars worth of coins in seconds. By the time the price rises 50% the whales have all but removed themselves from the market and the little fish begin to take their profit. This tips the balance and the coin starts to go down. Without the whales to pump the buys up with massive walls the ordinary buyer gets scared and removes their buy order completely - it happens very suddenly but it causes a 20-25% fall in price within 60 seconds more often than not. Then people foolishly think its just a correction and starting buying again - this slows the descent but doesnt change the downward trend - the coin MUST go back to around the level it was when the whales first started buying with an additional 10% added on. One of the side effects of a pump is that the resulting stable price is usually around 10% higher than the previous.

There are what I would call "Super Pumps" whereby the target is set 2 to 500% above the current price - We saw this with Pandacoin, Karmacoin, Blackcoin, Dogecoin, XC, DRK etc. - You generally will only get one shot at this as it relies on a very low marketcap - once a coins starts to get into the 10s of millions of dollars it becomes far harder to pump up 500% - but the sweetspot is aorund $150-500,000.

Rest assured however, a super pump is followed by a super dump as seen in every single coin that has ever been pumped up - even Bitcoin and Litecoin themselves.


Ultimately just watch the market - thats my advice to you - and I don't mean watch the price - i mean watch the behaviour, what KIND of buys and sells are we seeing? What is the volume and price of each order? what space are they apart? what timezone do they most correlate to? what coin experienced a sell order of similar quantity to the buy order just observed? for example.

Have fun!




Damn, well said. How far could Xc go?
1002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 03, 2014, 12:11:10 AM
What does caansfer mean on the website?
1003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 11:36:29 PM
Dont stop ATC! Keep the brain moving bro we are with you:)
1004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite Launch June 1st! on: June 01, 2014, 04:56:14 PM
when is it going live?
it is.... why does everyone keep asking this?

why the huge dump??
1005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite Launch June 1st! on: June 01, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
when is it going live?
1006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite Launch June 1st! on: May 31, 2014, 08:54:05 PM
As always there is a dumb f.  that has to spoil the party.

Probably one of those big holders....

Did I not tell you to put your fucking coins in the sell side and let people buy you out!!

Don't you realize that by this selling to the buy side you are fucking up your own chance that the coin will get more value soon!

It clearly shows you are a coward and not willing to put the coins for sell in the sell side.  You only react when there is panic..  You have no idea how to control yourself...  You do not deserve to have those coins in your hands.

You are dumb ass!


Chillout, selling to buy more heheueuehehe
1007  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 31, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
This is going to be a sweet ride fellas!

ATC FTW
1008  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 31, 2014, 05:53:01 PM
Check this logo out (taken from this tweet - https://twitter.com/CoinRocket/status/472790874024595456/photo/1), pretty sick:




+1 That's a winner right there.

Mother of all logos. I donated 100 XC for logo bounty thats the winner
1009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 31, 2014, 03:04:15 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26uf4g/dev_update_290514/

1010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 31, 2014, 02:43:27 AM
Everybody is lurking at XC now, because people are uncertain of what to think of it, because of the FUD DRK spread about it.

People need to stop lurking and start buying.

People need to undestand what they are buying instead of asking others if it's working.

If you do not understand the screenshot of the poster with transactions occurring on his laptop or the video, and what these mean, that's a real problem right there.

If you did, you don't need another's opinion.


Yea, the market is waiting right now to see if they can capitalize on any last minute dumpers.  If they sense dumping has stopped.  Prepare for a huge uptrend.  Everyone (who knows better) is certain XC is the real deal now.  IMO
Yep, I kinda want the price to stay at this level until my BTC arrives from coinbase on Monday so I can buy in at these levels Smiley


I feel your pain. I was waiting on 50BTC from Coinbase. I watched the a 10x rise while waiting. Of course, I finally got my BTC and price was at 30... Heck I wished they could have kept it one more day so that i could have bought at 17.

Anyone that has been around Crypto long knows that this is going 50mil in less than 3 weeks... and the moon (100mill +) soon afterwards.

Good luck to you. Grin

Yup, i wouldnt have a shit ton of money in this if it wasnt going to 50mil + passing darkcoin
1011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 10:34:21 PM
We are going up and so is bitcoin.
1012  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 10:30:29 PM
What makes me laugh.

1 - The coins we can invest in.
2 - The coins that are pure shit
3 - Not buying XC at these super fucking low prices right now.
1013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Cryptsy & Mintpal on: May 30, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
Any reasons why i should be investing right now? anything new?
1014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
Can I make a request? FUD-trolls at Poloniex keep claiming that user "loljosh" is the XC-dev. Can we get a solid response on that from the XC dev that we can quote/cite to squash them as needed?

yes, here:

No more FUD Please guys
XC dev,


XC approachInside XC Coin
When we researched XC further we came to see that the technology used allows for anonymous POS wallet and its minting technology was something well worth mentioning.

Crowds vs Dual Path

Crowds


Imagine if you will that you had a message and you wanted to send it to a friend. Delivering this message is the highest priority of your life and no other person can find out where this message came from.
The standard method used by most coins would require that there are web servers (see above image), “judges” if you will that will be the point of contact between you and your friend. They may pass the message among themselves and or with other individuals until they finally transmit the message to its destination, which will be your friend.
Dual Path

The alternative approach to the crowds method is the dual path method. X11 coin has implemented this within its wallet POS feature. This method benefits from the lack of need for a node as each individual is treated independently (see above image). It is fully decentralized and anonymous.
If we were to render the same situation of needing to send a message to a friend using this method instead we would get a completely different scenario.
In this case the request is bounced around independent individuals at random intervals until it has reached you. You would then send your message using the same method although in this case it will follow a completely different path. This means that there is no way of actually telling who the requester or the sender was. There are no nodes or “judges” and each individual will only need to decide the next movement. A complete free form of requesting and sending data.

XC – The future of e-currency anonymity coin

After looking at this coin we can see that there are a great deal of benefits that surround this coin. Its approach to a complete anonymous POS wallet that not only is private but at the same time: its much faster at dealing with network changes, node drops and overall handling of data compared to the crowds approach mentioned above. XC has proven to be something special, and is to shine above other fading other normal x11 coins.

 Grin

Bumping this.
1015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
Im not trying to bring the interest % up.

Im trying to see if theres a solution so that more people dont trade their coins and short XC in the market
1016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 01:54:12 PM
Less coins being traded on mintpal = better growth
1017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely
1018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 01:45:30 PM
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.
1019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 03:20:22 AM
cheap coins arent going to be on sale anymore
1020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 03:00:47 AM

I really thought this article summarized the multi-path technology a little better than I have so far.

http://www.coinssource.com/xc-coin-coins-source-exclusive/


This completely decentralized solution is the objective of the REV2 release - each week, we will be releasing an update that improves on the previous release.  I am looking forward to bringing this solution to the community and in parallel to this effort I am continuing to push into the other solutions previously mentioned.  These other ideas and concepts require a business like mindset to be accomplished and bring to market.  Those pieces will slowly come together over the next several months.  

100% of my time & energy is focused into this vision, and making it a success.  This is the reason why I have been less active online recently and I don't want to end up divorced over this as my wife says she hasn't seen me in over a month.

A lot has been accomplished in a very, very short amount of time, and its been an interesting adventure so far.  I want to thank all of those who have helped make that happen.  Rome wasn't built in a day but I'm confident in the solution and vision.


Thank You,

ATCSECURE










I am investing in you.

+1 keep it up!
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