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301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cash is better than Bitcoin. on: August 06, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
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Some people got arrested for accepting Bitcoins.

Shows exactly that BTC is extremely powerfull, BTC is free from governance, politics and greed.

You should reconsider that becouse now we have a lot of politics arround BTC that is why someone created Bcash.
Bcash is wort from cash becouse cash is anon and instant payment and bcash is not.
Bitoin is some kind monetary system this is not cash but is great becouse you can take wealth any where you want.
Cash is good in local enviorment while BTC is international and you can get good price in India o or China.
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it too late to buy NEO? on: August 06, 2017, 09:15:33 AM
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I dont think it is too late, on my prediction, it could to up to 20 because it is getting popular in China.

I bought some at around 7, then sold at 6.5 for BTC on preparation for 1 August, poor me. Just the day before yesterday I bought again at 11

All speculaating that China will buy it wild while noone knows getting extra +25% is not worth rsk to me.
Short them maybe but in long run NEO have to proove to be very good tech.
What will happen no one knows now all ICOs want to be like ETHerum.
But it will be realy hard to find new one like that.
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH vs BTC on: August 06, 2017, 09:12:47 AM
Hey guys, so I'm really new to all this stuff and I want to know which one you guys feel is better. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me the pros and cons of both so I can grasp an idea of what Im dealing with.

Bitcoin BTC      The Original
Ethereum [ETH]   Next Generation

Bitcoin'BTC'-Bitcoin was the original. As we have seen, the original is not always best - but it still was innovative. It uses a public ledger called a blockchain for security and it's the idea for Vitalik to create Ethereum.

Ethereum'ETH'-It's like Bitcoin but have a 'New' discovery in their techonology :

  • Smart Contracts allow you to write applications in the blockchain that usually run as programmed.
  • 'ASIC-proof' algorithm makes it profitable to mine for people without expensive hardware.

in brief BTC and ETH just like a father and son,son learn everything from his father and he grow up because of that


This the simple and easy explanation of ETH and BTC i ever read thanks alot for the info... (as for me ETH is the best way to invest when it comes to a long term investment... )

Yeas but after Segwit ativation BTC allso is going to be NEXT generation while it will have less problems than ETH.
ETH is more cetralized coin and changes are more easy to apply. ETH have POV - where is Vitalik there is ETH.
BTC is decentralized if you ask who make decision in BTC you can not in reality point finger on anyone while in ETH that is Vitalik.
Once Vitalik will be gone who will know what Etherum is real one ETC or ETH Cheesy ? To me ETC is real one etherum but because of proof of Vitalik
we call ETH that fake one.
304  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 8th August on: August 06, 2017, 09:02:51 AM
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The general trend is that once BTC goes up so do the other alts. I'm not entirely sure what specifically causes this phenomena but it seems to be a trend. It could be due to price changes in BTC positively affecting the price of the alts through the pre-existing buy orders... Whatever it is, it usually works that way.

Becouse people are speculating that is all : ) it is easier to pum small cap coin than BTC.
Some new money like 10% of them are nicely pumping existing alts but when price  drops if you hold alts you are getting rekt harder.
1 you lose BTC vale
2 you lose alt value
to finaly you lose 2x more
this market is like playing on high leverage exchange.
I belive that most alts have its peaks behind to BTC.
Now with segwit we should see nice $$$ flow to BTC from altcoins but there is 2x part of that and we will see how it will be playerd around.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash is Neither "Bitcoin" nor "Cash!" on: August 06, 2017, 08:55:31 AM
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So, perhaps you are suggesting the name, "Bit Pump&Dump?"

This name looks very good and honest we can discuss like "8MBToPump" or "BigeBlockPumping"
"FeedBigBlockers"" : ) stuff like that. This is not cash but is nice seiing that Dahs and Cash wil fight each other.
What will come next no one knows. I belive there will be pump one day but timing is hard to me.
Maybe 2x part of BTC  will be nice pump trigger ?
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wich cryptocurrency is the most promising? on: August 06, 2017, 08:51:00 AM

Hello,

there are so many different crypto currencies.

Can someone suggest  me in which crypto except Bitcoin is worth to invest?  Smiley

today exept bitcoin i would suget you innvest into byteball... Sorry not today.
We are on altcoin bubble it will deflate hard man you will end loosing moeny holding most alts.
BTC even is pumped is proven to recover over time while 99% alts can not do it at all
that is EXTREMELY risky recommend to you something.
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitcoinCash is dead on: August 06, 2017, 08:48:25 AM
I belive its so dead that my sells will never go through with a real befefit. Whats your opinion?

Bcash is not  dead there are people who mine at loss to make it alive.
Look we have LTC DOge still living so Bcash will also live ass altcoin we can like it or not but it will.
In long rund there won't be place for many altcoins and clones like LTC Doge Bcash and many others will fade and will be replaced by other  better coins.
I don't know in which shape will be BTC then but it can be just e-Gold status while currency part will be taken over to some oether alts.
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ERC20 tokens classed as Altcoins?? on: August 06, 2017, 08:44:38 AM
How do you view any ERC20 tokens you might hold?

Since they don't have their own blockchain and are somewhat reliant on the success of the Ethereum ecosystem...

I'm trying to work out the best ratio for my holdings in terms of Bitcoin / Ethereum / Altcoins so where to group the ERC20 tokens I.e. BAT, OMG, CFI, TKN, CVC.

I'm thinking to follow the general market consensus so 50% BTC, 25% ETH and 25% Altcoins.

What does your portfolio look like?

Thanks,
Rich

I'm thinking to follow

Thanks,
Rich

You have nice BTC in portfolio this is good but altcoins are in nice bubble now so in onger run value of most of them will decline you need to be warry about.
In 2013 i was thinking that X Y coin will be great it was mistake.
If you want build altcoin portfolio do it on later when over one two years of crypto dumping.
You need to be carefull now more than eveer before there is many prjects on markets that will fail.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is BCH sometimes displayed as BCC? on: August 06, 2017, 08:40:54 AM
The client refers to Bitcoin Cash as BCC and the first company to have a mining pool (ViaBTC) does also. It seems the exchanges are mostly going with BCH while the client and ViaBTC are staying with BCC. They are assuming Bitcoin Cash will win out over Bitcoin and they may call Bitcoin Cash what they like. That remains to be seen still early days but what Jihan Wu wants he seems to get in the end. It was a really bad idea to let bitcoin mining get centralized in China but water over the dam.

Bitcoin cash team PR fucked up here hard on BCC. You can not claim BCC while you have coin on market bitconnect form 2016...
I kno htey have big hopes but this is wrong. THey should start with unique name.
Same goes to copy paste logo of BTC... THat whole stuff loks to me like cheap China cloned product.
310  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Safest way to keep bitcoins? on: August 06, 2017, 08:37:21 AM
IMO best way is to have combo like Trezor + cryptosteel.
Trezor gives you access to your coins and make it hard for hackers to steel it.
And cryptosteel is good for storing recovery seed somewhere this one is fire proof and gives nice protection.
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: To Buy BCH or not to Buy BCH? on: August 06, 2017, 07:54:26 AM
Just follow the miners.

HAHA... come on miners just follow PRICE they don't give a shit to coin doesn't matter BTC Bcash Smiley they will mine just for profits.
But hashrate is not makeing price - price is made by people wiling pay for coins.
BCH will have pump becouse nothing is going down forver.
312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have a future? on: August 06, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
Bitcoin has a greatest of future of all if bitcoin don't had a future maybe those rich will not have interest use bitcoin way back 2013-2014 bitcoin that year is cheaper and not that expensive see how it goes by the year past bitcoin now is at the price of almost in $3000 dollars this is what the bitcoin future is.
bitcoin has a great future there is no doubt  about it, but i think still bitcoin need more hard work, because bitcoin is still not fully introduce in all over the world. still in a lot of places people do not have have any idea about bitcoin. even in modern countries people are unaware of bitcoin, i think it is more important to introduce bitcoin there.
There is no doubt that bitcoin has a bright future ahead of all crypto currency. But it is waiting to be discovered and known by not many but by all, waiting to be legalized not only by some but by all. Bitcoin is being used and introduced to many  people continuosly, throughout the world, so it surely will always be improving and be at it's best. It's a known working progress. It's always a step for bitcoin to be the brightest everytime a country acknowledge and legalize it.
yes bitcoin has a bright future no doubt about this. because still people are accepting bitcoin and putting more trust on it.

And from all mess on market there is realy high chance that in 10 years when all other 99% cins/token dies BTC will be arround.
So far BTC is comming back from every PnD Smiley, but this is not shared strory to all crypto.
So people who have BTC should give it shot and wait / use it .
We need tax free legislation too
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Using stellar ($XLM) for ICOs, how do you think? on: August 06, 2017, 07:40:29 AM
A few days ago, i see blog post stellar: https://www.stellar.org/blog/using-stellar-for-ico/?utm_content=bufferaeac5&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

there are multiple reasons to consider Stellar for an ICO:
  • Built-in decentralized exchange
  • Greater security
  • Create custom ICOs
  • Significantly cheaper and faster

i think this is interesting, how do you think?

You need ICO on platform that have some Volume : ) .
But in reality that volume will come after QUALITY ICOs.
DAO was cool concept for ETH then were new one with high explosure.
We have here few token exchanges in crypto long before ETH.
BTS NXT had those exchanges, but ETH was prommising MEGA features to those tokens Cheesy...
that was a diffrence and power of smart contract Marketing.
In reality all trade those tokens and noone use ETH network like it was promoted.
314  Local / Alternatywne kryptowaluty / Re: [ANN][ICO] easyMINE - Polski Projekt on: August 05, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
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Czemu im temat zbanowano albo go zamkneli ?
Projekt wydaje się ciekawy jak myslisz  z 10BTC ile za rok można by z tego wyciągnać.
Kopałem swego czasu bardzo duzo i obecnie jestem sceptycznie nastawiony po wielu skamach dookoła
315  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: August 05, 2017, 05:52:44 PM
If you hold on BTC you have highest chance that you will get nice profit. If you save and long hold BTC and you don't do trading you save every ime those damm fees.
it is prooven that most traders will lose money over time. You dont know a future and that is why having like 100% in BTC is not recommended is good to have some Metals, and other stuff
even ral estate for rent is quite good passive investment
316  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 05, 2017, 05:49:52 PM
Money have to work if you leave moeny un attented .
In order to make money you need to learn how to move "cash" from asset to asset.
What is even more important is to learn how do it avoiding taxation while you change one asset to another.
Taxes are big pain in ass.
317  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: August 05, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
You can focus on your job and bitcoin at the same time.
How many time you expect to do things in this forum ? 2 hours or more ? and how much do you earn from bitcoin until now ? think about that.
So.. No, i will not suggest you to quit your job. If you still quit, i dont think its a good idea.

I get myslef at cheecking BTC all time in work man.
This is bad if you have some stake in BTC and you look at charts too much but is fun when price is climbing.
This year was really good for BTC IMO and all altcoins market.
But yea qituing job is VERY BAD IDEA :  ) price is unpredictable for us.
318  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin split to Bitcoin Cash! (BCH) Yep! You probably owe IRS a lot of $$$. on: August 05, 2017, 03:49:07 PM
SO I see that in US IRS will have nice mind fuck what to do with that stuf ...
With IRS everything is possible but taxing paper gains is stupid.
Until you get real $ in pocked i don't belive in any taxation becouse anywane can prit price like 10000$ per coin and what ?
You will never able sell for that price but you need to pay tax from that opportunity come on...
319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there really a split in Bitcoin community? on: August 05, 2017, 03:34:08 PM
If you read some crypto or mainstream media, you can stumble upon phrases like "civil war", "feud", and most recently "Bitcoin split". This all implies that we have 2 roughly equal-sized camps, which I believe isn't the case.

Developers

Bitcoin Core developers oppose all recent big block proposals. Big block proposals have very small teams of developers.

Miners

Most miners will always vote for whatever is going to be more profitable for them. The recent Bcash fork showed us than hashrate follows the price.

Users

Economically, most users seem to favor Core's direction, Bitcoin's price was stable during August 1st, and now it's growing as SegWit lock-in is near. Bcash price is at around 8% after 4 days of trading and keeps falling.

Nodes

Bitcoin Core and UASF nodes together form 80% of all nodes.

All the crazies left for Bcrash, THANK GOD!

Yea I agree that Bcash is good thng becouse I hope most toxic people will leve space. Now 2x part will have less drama becose if MINERS wan't mine BIG blocks then they are free to do it on Bcash side.
What the problem then ? I want see Segwit in action and then if adjustment is needed act proportional to needs.
I was always was telling that hishrate goes with price... and miners doesn't contribiute to price moving UP at all.
All what miners are doing is DUMPING Cheesy nothing more but just simply DUMPING.
If mining Dash would be profitable for them they would mine Dash and not BTC.
Giving BTC future keys to miners is stupid thing then - miners don't give a shit about BTC future LONG term.
320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So has Roger Ver dumped his BTC for BCC yet? on: August 05, 2017, 03:26:01 PM
...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE Cheesy

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

Roger will buy deep like 10-50$ then he will strt promoting that coin. He is not that dump he is acting like that .
BTW i think he lost most his BTC and he jumped on altcoins train too. He was promoting those alts.
I hope he will tay with that Bcash and fork away from BTC. They wanted BIG block so they have them now.
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