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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
.... the ethereum devs will probably test for weeks before they release a fix and the gas limit + transactions per second goes back to normal.

Welcome to Microsoft support level please stand in line for a while now.
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
Hi Iconomy. When to start trading ... Huh? Well thank you

Let them first release the tokens...  Wink

https://ethstats.net/

Lol look this network choke at makx 28ts/s Cheesy... and we want imput like 5000-7000 in one shot Cheesy haha
that will blow them up

Where can I see in the website, the limits?

yellow at 35 Cheesy...look at that block time too ,
ICONOMI will blow them up i think : )
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 06:24:28 PM
Hi Iconomy. When to start trading ... Huh? Well thank you

Let them first release the tokens...  Wink

https://ethstats.net/

Lol look this network choke at makx 28ts/s Cheesy... and we want imput like 5000-7000 in one shot Cheesy haha
that will blow them up
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 06:15:45 PM


Any problem releasing the contract details so we can put them into our wallets?



They will do that give them time they were prepared to do it automatically and because of ETH fails network, contract with 5000+ transactions would be fucked up
by network probably. Some people will get ICN some not and deal with that shit then when they release all at once ?
that ****** ETH, that is when 90% cash goes on marketing instead of development.

I hope that we will move to another dividend vessel when it will be available,Etherum is overrated IMO.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
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- Ethereum's network is being spammed yes
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Ethereum need to go back to 0.005 to do something.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 01:31:44 PM
....the iconomi tokens will got a delayed, the gas limit ...

WTF is with that ETH ? DDOS or gas (fees) abuse ?
Those are two different types of problem.
The longer it takes that ETH doesn't look good in my eyes.
It's like dealing with Microsoft support "we are working on that that you for report" few months later nothing...
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
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Are you telling me there's a coin out there that has NOT been attacked?   Tongue

Lets take take 1st i well known from top 10 market cap.
NEM - it was not attacked or even when someones tried noone have felt that have to report it.
NXT ?  - i don't remember any real attack drama so far
Blackcoin - some time atack but solved in hour
BTC,LTC some miners played with DDOS to mine more and shut down others but network was running without problem.

I don't remember coin that have some issues by weeks not fixed.
If there were such, those not exit now.
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 11:31:00 AM
What happend if eth blockchain do not return to optimal funcional.
its restored already for a full day
get the latest release

Why in your opinion only ETH have such attacks?
For me looks like poor design.
PS: Fix with fork rising fees 20x will kill some business.
My 1st ETH project and only problems on the way.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 12, 2016, 07:44:48 AM
https://ethstats.net/

It looks like roughly 16MM gas worth of transactions has been getting through on the ethereum network per 10 minutes, because many 0 transaction blocks are getting mined

less than 3000 transactions to distribute all the ICN (assuming 500+ investors didn't provide a ETH withdrawal address)

Token-sending transactions use about ~3.5x the gas of a normal ETH sending transaction, so around ~75000 gas per transaction.

(75000 gas per transaction)×(3000 transactions) = 225MM gas

(225MM gas) ÷ (96MM gas per hour) = 2h 20m

It would take iconomi a minimum of 2h 20m to send out all the ICN withdrawals.

If they increase the gas price of their transactions to 20x the normal rate of 0.00000002 ETH per gas:

(225MM gas)×(0.00000040 ETH per gas) = 90 ETH

If they wanted to distribute all the ICN with the network in its' current state, I estimate they could do it in less than 4 hours for less than 90 ETH

LOL this change will be huge for ETH if they rise costs like 20x... From 1-side it will secure network but that makes using ETH network it will be HIGH cost.
And that was not planned by anyone who is using ETH for its system.
Imagine that cost of your rent goes up 20x... you will be pissed off hard.
I don't like when someone is changing business rules.
Imagine you planned business on ETH network your business plan got reck becouse your will have to pay 20x more now - brilliant solution
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: October 11, 2016, 06:48:57 PM
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What's stopping these companies from rolling out their own private blockchains (say, their own copy of Mijin), and entirely exclude NEM, and then make them available for their target groups (read: not the NEM stakeholders)?
(Please don't tell me it's the relationship between these companies and the NEM devs and their good hearts.)


All companies are making moves that are best for them. And like for any company having controls of own Mijin is essential.
You force parameters of network on the fly block time size,you can create for you specific solutions etc.

Using NEM can be forced by cutting costs and you will use NEM as public infrastructure something like ETH is for its tokens.
Sky is no limit today. But as we know all want promote own cake here - Mijin companies will be like BTC copycats fight who is the best in future.
Anyway this is good sign that NEM as blockchain technology will be used on some side chains.
And will be good if NEM will import some technology from those side chains too.

At end Mijin is at local lvl usage while NEM will be global public network no one know how that will interact in future.
This is big "?" - companies and they needs will determine what ishave to be done.
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: October 11, 2016, 06:20:27 PM
JWL is nothing by miners pnd coin LMAO.

Please stick to WBB like I have said 100 times.

But if someone want to get some extra $ JWL IMO at ICO price right now is quite safe bet.
Why WBB is such good ?
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 06:13:46 PM
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Not exactly. Many of these M have arrived after the Devcon 2. So it was probably great job done by Iconomi team Smiley

Devcon2 done nothing just people were waiting last days how it will be played and decided to invest or not invest in last 3 days.

For me go in sign was 10 000 BTC goal and 4m$ of performance fund without that i would never put more BTC into ICONOMI over those one with bonus.
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do u think ICO is Good or Bad on: October 11, 2016, 05:58:08 PM
I look at ICO like at start-ups. There not many ICO that have any business plan for future.
Mass adoption  ? That was 1000x with any coin around trying...
ICO like any others belongs to you or you invest or not.
You can choose invest in project/company like /Etherum/Lisk/Jewels/ICONOMI with known devs or you can try look for
irrational goals like deCluds, Opair projects that from 1st look seems to be scams.

In ICOs are burning people like old days with premined coins i see no big difference here but here honest devs are securing funds to
run working ecosystem if that ecosystem has a good business plan it can be succeed.

PS: like with start-ups 1/100 will be winner rest will burn you. This is truth.
Allways you need to know that there is a risk and you play digital coin casino.
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is 🔷 Jewels 🔷(JWL)🔷 a 🔷 BUY 🔷 HOLD 🔷 or SELL? 🔷 on: October 11, 2016, 04:03:26 PM
~2000 ICO value is buy over 10k is time to sell a bit Cheesy
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 03:50:47 PM
The team suggested to keep our ICN to our ICO account and probably the rest of us may keep thier ICONOMI there. is there advantages to keeping their ICN in their dashboard than sending it to an ETH wallet? just curious to know.

Can we also send our ICN back to our ICO account?
Some benefits I came to know are-

1. If ICNs are hacked from a iconomi wallet there are more chances that you would be compensated.

2. It would be good  for noobs. As you don't have to do anything.

3. You don't have to preserve the private keys and all that.

4. You don't have to download the blockchain.

5.  ICNs (if in Iconomi wallet) could be used to invest  in investment funds. ( This feature is not available currently. But according to some sources it would be announced later)

6. You may use iconomi founders debit card.


If anyone could add more benefits it would be great.

7. you won't sell till real pump ICONOMI will make your hands trully strong Cheesy,
while 90% will be cashing out in pump you will be able to HOLD like KING
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: October 11, 2016, 03:38:29 PM
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thousands of transactions per second? Shocked

better than NEM dedicated dev he got 1.4k tx/s Cheesy or he did it ?
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
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 Sorry to say that  but your math is very wrong..



YEA Cheesy Huh?

20/90,993.49 BTC = 0,00021979 sat
selling under ~22 000 is loss for investor without bonus
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
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You create a walletadress on the exchange ICN will be listed at and put it up as the adress to receive your ICN. Dont really understand what you mean with proof?

Once my coins were not registered in my acc and i needed to send mall amount of coin to exchange to proof that was mine account which should receive coin.
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
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Why wouldn't you be able to use exchanges to receive ICN if it is listed there?

In case of problems how you show proof that you have sent ICN tokens ?
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 11, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
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Lisk used the same ICO model and we didn't see such an impact on the price. Why would it be different this time?

Lisk was build on ehterum hype and FOMO,
ICONOMI is build as company tha will pay dividends and dividends are buyer factor to invest,
ICN won’t be another altcoin with mass adoptation like Lisk suppose to be.
ICONOMI price will be linked to profits that company can provide – IMO all crypto should be like that !
ICONOMI price will be related to clients they get on board and stuff like that.
In long run 15%-50% premine doesn't matter - profits with dividends will speak for ICONOMI.
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