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141  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Нужна ли монета, не имеющая отрицательной on: July 30, 2021, 12:14:23 AM
А как ты себе это представляешь? То есть бесконечный рост без откатов? Ну тогда теоретически ты ее продать просто не сможешь, как и любой другой ее холдящий.
Если монета имеет постоянный рост какой смысл её продавать, её нужно покупать и держать как биток правда он может и упасть а если она упасть не может так она лучше его.
Так а кто вам ее продаст, если ее нет смысла продавать Grin
Это все какая то утопия монета которая только растет и не падает, это рынок и он имее определенные законы спроса и предложения которые и регулируют рост или падение.

Продаст тот, кто захочет приобрести что-то другое ведь золото продают не потому, что оно упало в цене, а если требуется другой актив.
Так вопрос в том зачем ее продавать если она постоянно растет и не падает, зачем вам что то другое покупать, биткоин или еще что то, у вас уже есть монета которая не падает.
Всё правильно продавать нет смысла, но вот в чём вопрос объясните природу роста ведь само по себе расти ничего не может значит её покупают как золото для хранения своих инвестиций если она так надёжна.  
Рост цены будет расти до тех пор пока не наступит баланс депозита и оборотных средств. 
Так я и сам этого не понимаю, я об этом выше писал что такие монеты это просто утопия какаято, такого не бывает, так как они противоречать законам рынка, не может быть просто таких монет.

Вы не один так думаете https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345571.msg57304671#msg57304671
142  Economy / Economics / Re: Почему банки не работают с криптовалютой? on: July 29, 2021, 05:54:15 AM
LOL.. why should the banks work with one of their competitors? It is like saying that Coke should distribute Pepsi in their corporate office. One of the basic concepts of Bitcoin is to avoid storage of money by third parties. If you have some coins, then you can store them by yourselves by creating a wallet. You don't need the help from a third party like bank. And this is an existential threat to the banks. If people can store their money by themselves and can transact them as they like, then why should they be dependent on the banks?
Strange people. Are you going to give out loans to yourself in the place of the bank, charge yourself interest for storing in your wallet?
143  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: July 29, 2021, 02:42:10 AM
The bank works by circulating their money. I think it would be hard for Cryptocurrency to do that.
The price is volatile, so investors, lenders, and borrowers would have difficulty adjusting to the system.
Until a decentralized stable coin appears on the crypto market, banks will not invest their assets in cryptocurrency.
144  Economy / Economics / Re: Stablecoins 101 on: July 29, 2021, 02:17:24 AM
After all the latest rumors surrounding tether and bitfinex I've decided to swap all my usdt to DAI stable coin instead, it seems things are getting hotter sir USDT right now and anything can happen, I'm not sure about binance exchange since they are also on fire right now, I don't know how safe BUSD is
DAI is not a panacea, it is also subject to management. Currently, there is not a single solution in the crypto currency world for saving and lending crypto currency that does not depend on the speculative BITCOIN exchange rate managed by the main owners, managed volatility is very beneficial for them.
145  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: July 27, 2021, 08:22:09 AM
I think that banks count cryptocurrency still a high risk asset. They are more afraid, that one day altcoins creator will perform an exit scam or will drop the price to zero, and the banks will have to cover all losses and negotiations with customer, instead of altcoins creator. There are no major support for crypto, compared with, for example, with US dollar. Who is behind US dollar ? Whole country. Who is behind dogecoin? No idea.

If I have $10,000 on my account, they cant just disappear or turn useless or crap. If I had 100,000 dogecoin on my bank account, there is a chance that one day they will become untransferable or useless. I will blame bank for that.
You are half right, not all cryptocurrencies are managed by the creator, for example, bitcoin, etherium, but banks do not work with them. You are right about one thing, banks are afraid of uncontrolled volatility and this is the main reason. When they develop a crypto currency that cannot be devalued under any circumstances, banks will be the first to capture the entire crypto market. For example

http://prosh.info/smart_eng.html
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We need more decentralized stablecoins on: July 24, 2021, 07:56:03 AM
The fact is that no one asks and will not ask for our opinion when issuing stablecoins. Any kind of money has the right to circulate. Stablecoins will generally always be centralized as they are backed by centralized state currencies.
In the next few years, on the contrary, digitized stable currencies of states will be massively issued and it is quite possible that they will to some extent displace all other types of means of payment. In any case, governments are counting on it.

That's certainly true, mate. Decentralized or centralized stablecoins wouldn't make much difference if they're backed by government-issued currencies. Crypto is all about being an alternative to the current monetary system by providing people a new kind of money that's backed by algorithms instead of a central authority. Believe me, stablecoins are nothing more than a glorified version of Fiat. They're essentially experimental versions of CBDCs (Central Bank Digital Currencies). While decentralized stablecoins are backed by crypto assets and algorithms (instead of real world currencies), they're essentially governed by the issuer (like it's the case with DAI). We might as well forget about decentralizing stablecoins, as they rely on centralized currencies. Stablecoins are certainly useful for traders, but extremely risky for long-term investors.

Nonetheless, time will tell us the fate of the stablecoin industry as governments devise new regulations that would either stifle or stimulate its growth. With most governments' skepticism towards crypto/Blockchain tech, one would guess they won't be friendly towards stablecoins. The situation is worse when stablecoins mimic Fiat in every way. Governments wouldn't want stablecoins to replace Fiat in its entirety, leading them to crack down on stablecoin issuers themselves. At least, traditional cryptocurrencies will be able to stand the test of time as they're independent (sort of) from the current monetary system. Just my opinion Smiley

Absolutely precisely, you have given a description of all centralized and supposedly decentralized stablecoins artificially replacing Fiat. Hence the conclusion - Decentralized Finance (De.Fi.) this is a blind imitation of the existing monetary imitating Fiat system, in my opinion, this will lead to even greater discrediting of cryptocurrencies, since today only the lazy do not print so-called stable coins. What is the point of Stablecoins pegged to the dollar or to any Fiat currency if they can be printed as much as you want? On the contrary, it is necessary that the Fiat issue should depend on the total real volume of the decentralized world economy, and not on the whim of the local authorities, but these are my illiterate fantasies.
147  Other / Meta / Re: Strange affair! on: July 23, 2021, 09:22:24 AM
Not because this topic is not allowed to be mentioned, but because there is a discussion about this topic. The forum does not allow posting duplicate topics. I saw this kind of topic in the Bitcoin discussion before, and I remembered that I also responded to it, so the reason for deleting it is that the topic is repeated.

And you are right! But the fact is that often you find an old topic and want to answer, but there is a warning that the topic has not been opened for more than 120 days, is it better to create a new one and what will you have to create anew? Also a problem. And all the answers on this topic will be unclaimed.
148  Other / Meta / Re: Strange affair! on: July 23, 2021, 08:13:11 AM
I like bitcoin but I also love how ethereum use case can work on different defi and blockchain application. But cant really hate any of these two cause bitcoin as we all knew is the king of all crypto and eth is the 2nd in position that literally climbing up the ladder. I am excited how eth will move forward from the plan migration to different dapps out there.



Curious OP why you said this topic is banned? Only users can get banned and the topics are just locked if they ate redundant or off topic.

You are right, this is just a translation error, nevertheless, deleting duplicate topics is not correct in my opinion, they themselves will go into oblivion if they are not of interest, and besides, newcomers to the forum are unlikely to search in the depths of old topics for them, this is fresh information.
149  Other / Meta / Re: Cтpaннoe дeлo! on: July 23, 2021, 12:22:03 AM
[цитaтa aвтop=asriloni link=тeмa=5350685.msg57522786#msg57522786 date=1626997015] Кaк ктo-тo cкaзaл вышe мeня, и, дoлжнo быть, ecть пpичинa, пo кoтopoй oн yдaляeтcя тaк быcтpo. Hacкoлькo я вижy, чтo ecли ecть кyчa пoтoкoв, кoтopыe oбcyждaли тo жe caмoe, чтo и вaшa тeмa, и ктo-тo cooбщaл o вaшeй тeмe кaк o cпaмe, и имeннo пoэтoмy мoд BTT yдaлял вaшy тeмy, paccмaтpивaя ee кaк cпaм-нить c пoвтopяющeйcя тeмoй. Haдeюcь, вы cмoжeтe пpoчитaть pyкoвoдcтвo o тoм, кaк oпyбликoвaть или coздaть тeмy. [/quote]
In my opinion, this topic is inexhaustible; over time, views on it will constantly change, which means that the discussion on this topic will be constantly updated.
150  Other / Meta / Strange affair! on: July 22, 2021, 10:19:45 PM
Strange affair!
I opened the topic. “Who, in your opinion, is more promising than ethereum or bitcoin? And why? Please explain your answers. "
For some reason unknown to me, it was removed very quickly. Obviously, this topic on the forum is banned.
151  Economy / Economics / Re: Хотите стать совладельцем мирового банк&# on: July 22, 2021, 07:52:34 AM
[цитата автор=uneng link=topic=5264440.msg55573605#msg55573605 date=1605156849] [цитата автор=VictorProsh link=topic=5264440.msg54864983#msg54864983 date=1595643879] Это мечта Сатоси Накамото. Он хотел дать каждому человеку свой собственный банк в руках. [/quote] Верно. Все мы являемся совладельцами биткоина, без каких-либо центральных органов власти и регулирующих органов, и на самом деле это выражение совладельца интересно, потому что в то же время я контролирую биткоин и свои собственные деньги. Мне также нужны вы и все остальные на том же уровне, чтобы сделать биткоин достойным и пригодным для использования. Тогда мы являемся совладельцами, работающими совместно, чтобы в конце концов каждый мог извлечь выгоду. Я рад, что люди могут иметь эту независимость, о которой так мечтали в настоящее время из-за Интернета, криптовалюты, биткоина, децентрализации и, конечно же, Сатоши Накамото. [/quote]
It is absolutely true that if you do not dream, then life will not change.
152  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 26, 2021, 07:13:25 PM
Well i think the more reason why the banks don't work with cryptocurrency is because there see crypto as a threat to their banking system, crypto solves alot of problems in the banking system in which this makes banks feel crypto will take all of their customers and instead of them to accept the facts that crypto is good enough when it comes to transaction across countries there discriminate crypto and only talks about the bad side of crypto without looking out for the advantages involved.
In simple words, crypto takes control away from the banks and gives it back to the people. Banks always want control within their grasp and that is the sole reason why crypto is often seen as a threat to the banks.

Actually, it is near impossible for banks to work in tandem with bitcoins because if you read the whitepaper of BTC, and if I remember correctly, the sole intention to create crypto was to take control away from the banks because of the way they treat people and how much control they had.

Something meant to destroy or disrupt the banking sector cannot work with banks, obviously. And the banks do know it very well, they are just helpless because they cannot control it.
How wrong you are! Control is always with those who have money and power. It is absolutely easy for banks to buy back and control all bitcoin. Who do you think whales and bears are if not bank tycoons playing through their brokers on the market?
153  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 26, 2021, 07:16:07 AM
10,000 Financial Institutions Can Now Let Customers Buy, Sell, Hold Bitcoin Through Their Bank Accounts
https://news.bitcoin.com/10000-financial-institutions-customers-buy-sell-hold-bitcoin-bank-accounts/
154  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 25, 2021, 11:33:25 PM
It's because cryptocurrency is decentralized and they need to make a platform where they can make it centralized or they can make money out of it. I have known a wallet/exchange that is regulated by the bank in my country and they did make money out of it. The only problem is that people doesn't have full access of the wallet(decentralized wallet) information but you have full control of your funds.
You have hit the spot. Everything that others said before you was also correct from the point of view of the existing monetary system. The future decentralized financial system will unite everyone on the basis of an independent assessment of the existing monetary in the transition to decentralization. What I mean.

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In solving this problem, I took as an example the existing US financial system.
Assuming that Ethereum is the Dollar, and the smart contract is the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency of the United States (OCC), and ETH-WORLD tokens are the Securities of the US Treasury, we get a financial model of a new decentralized economic system based on cryptocurrency. I implemented all this in my project, in contrast to the existing Fiat, it completely lacks an external emission regulator and is managed by the smart contract program.
http://prosh.info/smartcontract.html

In the near future, both systems will exist.
1. Monetary (domestic for each country)
2. Decentralized, external, combining all internal balances of GDP into a decentralized world GDP, which will be the measure of the world economy.
155  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 25, 2021, 08:18:00 AM
-snip-
Which of these features does my project contradict?

What you mention are just general banking features that are known to the public. I ask again, what is the actual mechanism for the bank to implement them? Are you sure there is no "secret system" behind it? Studying it is not enough just to consult an ordinary bank employee who has a limited level of knowledge. You have to take other approaches including "insider".

Simply put, we know that blockchain is a brilliant idea and was created 11 years ago, but why haven't banks adopted it yet if you think a change is needed? What's the problem?
I sm sure that your ideas have been thought of by others before you.
I swami agree that these ideas were worked out before me, but that is the question: all DeFi constructions are based on the monetary system of the dollar (Fiat) and are tied to it. I suggest something else:
What's the point of Stablecoins pegged to the dollar or any Fiat currency if you can print as many as you like? It is necessary, on the contrary, that the emission of Fiat depends on the total real volume of the decentralized world economy, and not on the whim of the local authorities, but these are my illiterate fantasies, ignorant.
Now, with regard to the functions of the bank, if due to the ban, other financial institutions in the form of various funds, insurance companies and, finally, stock exchanges will not be able to fulfill them, the holy place is never empty.
156  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Maker-Честный стейблкоин. on: June 24, 2021, 09:50:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5199863
почитайте о признаках пирамиды. Здесь их нет, и нет сверхприбылей.

Мошенники всегда опережают, и это беда децентрализованных систем, т.к тут нет оперативного регулирования.

риски присутствуют: если стоимость эфира упадет, но
никто не заставляет менять эфир на DAI(SAI) под 65 % актива, можно поменять и под 10-30%, что уменьшит риски потерять эфир на падении.

другой риск- это сами смартконтракты. Их изучало много специалистов, пока жалоб нет.


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/single-collateral-dai/markets/

пока стейблкоины торгуются на 3х биржах, обменниках   - это проблема
У вашего стабилкойна очень существенная проблема при резком падении в 2-3 эфира залог ликвидируется и на руках остаются не обеспеченные DAI поэтому он не может называться честным. В моём проекте такого быть не может потому, что он действительно честный. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345571.msg57304671#msg57304671
У вас же была русскоязычная тема.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234992
Не показали ее, чтобы не прочитали критику?

Я готов к любой критике которая помогает решать ошибки если у вас есть конкретные замечания готов обсудить, что касается ранней темы там нет критики, оппоненты не поняли темы, приведите хоть один аргумент в их пользу, я готов буду его обсудить. Я так же пытался с автором этой темы обсудить честный стабилкойн, но он этого делать не хочет очевидно нечем как говориться крыть.
http://prosh.info/smart_eng.html
157  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Maker-Честный стейблкоин. on: June 24, 2021, 04:40:14 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5199863
почитайте о признаках пирамиды. Здесь их нет, и нет сверхприбылей.

Мошенники всегда опережают, и это беда децентрализованных систем, т.к тут нет оперативного регулирования.

риски присутствуют: если стоимость эфира упадет, но
никто не заставляет менять эфир на DAI(SAI) под 65 % актива, можно поменять и под 10-30%, что уменьшит риски потерять эфир на падении.

другой риск- это сами смартконтракты. Их изучало много специалистов, пока жалоб нет.


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/single-collateral-dai/markets/

пока стейблкоины торгуются на 3х биржах, обменниках   - это проблема
У вашего стабилкойна очень существенная проблема при резком падении в 2-3 эфира залог ликвидируется и на руках остаются не обеспеченные DAI поэтому он не может называться честным. В моём проекте такого быть не может потому, что он действительно честный. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345571.msg57304671#msg57304671
158  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 24, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Crypto and banks have one very big difference and that is their structure itself.
Banks are centralized while crypto is decentralized. This itself is enough explanation as to why they aren't working with each other.

Banks are often used as a third party whenever there is a transaction from Person A to Person B. With crypto, banks isn't needed because they can just transfer without them. With this, the revenue or profit of the banks will be affected heavily thus they don't want cryptocurrency. One thing more is that they can't control it that is why they don't want it.
The main functions of banks:
• attraction (accumulation) of funds and their transformation into loan capital;
• stimulating the savings of depositors;
• loan mediation;
• intermediation in payments;
• creation of credit instruments of circulation;
• mediation in the stock market (in transactions with securities);
who will deal with these functions in cryptocurrency if not a bank, you? In fact, the bank itself will transform its paper wrappers into cryptocurrency, this is inevitable.
159  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 24, 2021, 12:25:23 PM
Thank you for wasting your precious time reading my project. It is a pity that you did not understand its meaning. Obviously, not everyone is able to think adequately. Let me ask you what exactly you think is idiotic in the project, give specifics, maybe it will become clear to others where I am wrong.

Before starting this project, you should have a strong banking background yourself to create ideas that are not against regulations.

Back to the subject title... Why don't you ask the bank itself? It is not the independent desire of bankers to want to update their financial systems, but regulations still regulate them or they are not allowed to operate. You need to keep in mind that there are several points in blockchain technology that contradict how banks work.
The main functions of banks:
• attraction (accumulation) of funds and their transformation into loan capital;
• stimulating the savings of depositors;
• loan mediation;
• intermediation in payments;
• creation of credit instruments of circulation;
• mediation in the stock market (in transactions with securities);
Which of these features does my project contradict?
160  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 24, 2021, 11:07:47 AM
I believe that banks do not accept cryptocurrency as they are two different systems and they cannot exist with each other. At the same time, there is a struggle between banks and cryptocurrencies, and if suddenly banks start accepting cryptocurrencies, it means that the current financial system is gone and another system came instead. But now it is too early to say, since it is not yet clear who will win this battle, bankers or digital devices.
Sooner or later, banks will still have to work with crypt currency, this is inevitable, which means they need a condition under which the crypt currency will evaluate financial assets as the dollar does now. I believe that both systems will work depending on each other. If now the young decentralized one depends on the centralized one, then in the future everything will be the other way around.
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