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41  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: May 15, 2019, 08:36:04 PM
I guess that's a no, then.  Cheesy

I do take note of all improvement requests but the betting system is brand new and still being developed. We already have a long to-do list.

Awesome. One more thing is maybe keeping up with eliminated teams in tournaments, and show a bet-lost reminder for those in your bet list while removing them from bets, they still show up on the list. Would be more noob and user friendly.
Also betting on things that can be leaked, like Game Of Thrones bet, could be avoided next time. Good job so far though.
42  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: May 15, 2019, 05:20:17 AM
You cannot compare a faucet to a ponzi scheme., Those youtube channels are just a marketing ploy to collect more referrals on their account. You can clearly see on most video description that they are sharing their referral links. The only trick there is they are tricking their visitors to use their referral links in exchange for their non-existence, non-working freebitco.in trick Cheesy

A lot of them tell their referrals to gamble large amounts to unlock all the bonuses and privileges which results in them losing a lot more than they 'trick' out of us.  Wink

I guess that's a no, then.  Cheesy
43  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: May 14, 2019, 10:11:47 PM
The explanation you have quoted gives all the information you need. The estimated winnings are just that an estimate as it is not possible to know in advance what bets will be placed in the future. The actual payout is a proportion of the total prize pool at the end. Your proportion of the bets placed on the winner are weighted depending on how early you bet.

Can you let us track potential payouts pretty please, maybe updated only once per day or something? I've put a small amount on Liverpool for example, before even they eliminated Barcelona, the early bird multiplier was about 80x and the potential payout was much higher. Now that they are left against Tottenham instead of Ajax, a lot of bets are flowing towards Liverpool although with a lower multiplier. It would be nice to keep track of potential payouts along the way, would be more fun and transparent. It could also be used as a guide to do more informed counter bets. Btw I hope Tottenham wins because I also had put a small amount on them too...
44  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: April 19, 2019, 09:18:44 AM
About the betting feature, I made bets on the champions league, I can see the bets I placed but I don't see the potential payouts. So is the payout dynamic?? I made the bets based on the current standings and payouts, but I cannot see now what the payout will be. If it's set in stone with respect to the time of betting, good, but you need to show it so people can track it. If it will be different at the end, then it doesn't make sense to bet at all with an unknown multiplier.

That's because it isn't traditional fixed odds betting. It is player versus player betting. All the bets go into the prize pool and that pot is shared by all those who chose the winner at the end so every time a bet is placed the odds change slightly. There are many different ways to bet and they all make sense to a lot of people.

All right then, would be good to have some F.A.Q in some place accessible. The time multiplier is quite a good idea btw. I hope you guys allow tracking the potential winnings though like you do at the time of betting, since it's dynamic and you don't know how many else has done the bets with what amount and with what time weight multiplier- and since one also can bet for the same team along the way with different multipliers and odds, it would be good to keep track of potential winnings over time.
45  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: April 18, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
About the betting feature, I made bets on the champions league, I can see the bets I placed but I don't see the potential payouts. So is the payout dynamic?? I made the bets based on the current standings and payouts, but I cannot see now what the payout will be. If it's set in stone with respect to the time of betting, good, but you need to show it so people can track it. If it will be different at the end, then it doesn't make sense to bet at all with an unknown multiplier.
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Freebitco.in provably cheating on: March 18, 2019, 04:28:05 PM
They are fucking cheaters.....their lottery winners are always fake and relatives and free roll winners hitting high are their fathers...LMAO Grin
Those posting also fake.

Do you have any proof for this statement? Can you proof that the winners of lotteries are fake?  Roll Eyes

Adding my two cents here about the lottery: They designed it in a way that they cannot cheat the winning index, that's good, but it's still not provably fair because they could dilute the lottery tickets as much as they want with bogus users (The lottery ticket list could be diluted). Not saying they are cheating the lottery, but lottery is not provably fair for that reason - it would be very hard to make it provably fair, short of something like an audit that's nearly as hard as auditing an exchange. I do automated multiply bets with validation for small amounts and haven't noticed any server seed changing. Not tracking free rolls.
47  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: March 18, 2019, 03:56:55 PM
I dont know where you are coming up with me telling you anything btw.  

I once talked about my chrome extension that automated bets and auto-validates bets and that I did several hundred thousand bets (these are all small bets, can't vouch for any big bets) , you called me a liar and said it was impossible because it would take too long to verify those bets. I explained that verification took a few milliseconds at most, it's just two sha256's (one to check server hash and the other for the dice result) after string concatenation and I remember I shared the code partially here. Your original post got deleted so that's why you do not remember that one. Anyway that was about it.

Edit: Btw, I'm not validating the free rolls. So I cannot vouch for those either, but for small bets, freebitco.in did not cheat me.
48  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: March 17, 2019, 10:28:22 PM
1.  Server seeds change (this is a proven fact in the scams thread and I've seen it first hand in my own experience as well) thus any claims of "Provably fair" are bold faced lies.  This brands the site as a liar.

Do the claims have a threshold for stakes that this occurs? I do automated bets and self validate and this never happened outside of a few during network errors (small amounts and some which the bet won). I trust Freebitco for these bets, but I never do "big" bets, and it would be very hard to prove if they switched for bigger bets.

Also please stop accusing me of lying about validating them. My chrome extension even lets you dump them to CSV file if you want. Here's a 10K bet sequence I had dumped to see if sha256 randomness was homogeneous. So in practice, I could validate those bets after the fact (however, I validate as I go along)
49  Local / Servisler / Re: Freebitco.in Sahtekarlığı! Aman Dikkat Arkadaşlar! on: March 14, 2019, 01:50:45 PM
Burada bir şey ispatlanmıyor esasen. Dolandırıcı parasını direkt olarak FreeBit'teki hesabına yatırtıyor, böylece parası gün geçtikçe artıyor, o parayla (neredeyse havadan gelen parayla) arasıra Martingale metoduyla canlı yayın veya video çekekerek freebit oynuyor, zaten bu şekilde müşteri buluyor, aynı zamanda adama deposit edilen paralar sayesinde freeroll bonus'u %1000 oluyor (az para değil o freeroll %1000 bonus ile gelen) Hesap aslında dolandırıcının kullandığı FreeBit deposit adresi.

Şu mantığı kurabilirsiniz - mesela siz de freebit script'i almam için freebit adresinizi bana verdiniz (bu mümkün, çünkü freebit'i online wallet olarak bile kullanabilirsiniz, btc transfer ücretleri 30 liralara çıktığı dönemlerde adamlar batching yaptığı için 3-4 liraya transfer edebiliyordu bitcoinleri), sonra beni kandırdınız. Sizin Freebit deposit adresine gönderdiğim para da freebit hesaplarına gönderilecektir. Freebitco.in gördüğü tek şey freebit'teki bir kullanıcısına bir bitcoin adresinden para geldiğidir, benim mi sizin hesabınıza, yoksa kendinizin mi sizin hesabınıza yatırdığını bile bilemezler zaten.

Bu tip sahtekarların herkese duyurmak lazım,  zaten biraz kafası çalışan adam kasaya karşı hiç bir zaman kazanamayacağını bilmesi lazım. İsterlerse 33 defa üst üste tek getirebilirler.

FreeBitco.in 'de çok yüksek sayıda (miktarda olmasa bile Smiley ) bet yapmış birisi olarak, FreeBit'in zar sonuçlarında oynama yapmadığını %99.999 eminlikte söyleyebilirim, çünkü her bir bet'i kendi sistemimle (Freebit'ten bağımsız) test ediyorum. Freebit'e kazandıran şey, oyunun "negative expectancy"li olması. House Edge'leri %5 gibi abartı bir rakam. Bu çok yüksek. Ama freeroll verebilirmeleri için bu lazım bir yandan da kâr yapmak için tabi. Bunun anlamı yeterince uzun vadede mutlaka FreeBitco kazanacaktır, hile hurda olmadan, uzun vadede "Negative expectancy" olan hiç bir oyunda kazanamazsınız, bu matematiksel olarak da ispatlıdır. Bu bilgiye rağmen oynayıp oynamamak sizin elinizde.

(Bu arada 33 defa üst üste gelebiliyor çok uzun serilerde Smiley  ) Bunu hesaplayan bir site vardı hatta bulacağım birazdan, yani bahis işinin ne kadar riskli ve saçma olduğunu orada anlıyoruz.. Edit: Ben %25 kazanma oranlı yüksek kazançlı bet yapıyorum ondan aklımda öyle kalmış, 1 e 2 verende çok değil 33 kere gelmesi kusura bakmayın artık Cheesy, ama 2^33 satoshi çok fazla, çoktan 15'lik bir seri geliyor o da göçertiyor zaten hesabı)
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/

Burada 15 sefer üst üste kayıp ihtimali 10.000 serilik bir bet'te %26 (%52,5 kaybetme ihtimali ile)

50  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: March 14, 2019, 11:47:17 AM
Today my friend received a push notification request from freebitco.in and sent me a photo, it said:
"Allow us to give you $200 in free bitcoins every hour" to ask me what it meant. I told him to go ahead an give it permission and see what will come around!

Although maybe you can reword it to "up to $200" though. What does the notifications exactly do? Is there an advantage to receiving notifications?
51  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 01, 2019, 04:56:46 AM
Hi all.. In the rewards section, I'm missing the multiplier options.. 1000% reward points etc.. Is there are problem with the site?


None of the rewards seem to be there right now, and I think you mean the 100 extra reward point bonus.

Oh yeah, that one. But it seems to be back now.
52  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: January 31, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
Hi all.. In the rewards section, I'm missing the multiplier options.. 1000% reward points etc.. Is there are problem with the site?
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 16, 2019, 01:23:15 PM
Can You PLEASE specify MAX supply and emission in the OP
Do the early ''investors'' really get 20% of the CentralFUND?

No they don't. They get 40% of the treasury fund.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 14, 2019, 05:39:52 AM
Price has really been tanking.  The emission (inflation) is just too high.

"Treasury" is also way too high - which is what puts me off for the long term.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 13, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
I've got a payment from Spark pool stuck in "confirming." Can I send it to another of my address so it's included like "child pays for parent"?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 10, 2019, 08:49:26 PM
I'm on hotbit right now attempting to withdraw BCH but hotbit keeps stating that my BCH address is invalid and i've tried several addresses. did you run into this issue?

Make sure your address starts with "bitcoincash:", if you are using those new ones that start with q. I haven't checked if it works with older bitcoin style addresses.

57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 10, 2019, 05:50:35 AM
What is the DAA? It's VERY jumpy. It's overshooting and undershooting constantly, and with Beam being probably the most profitable for GPUs by some margin, I find it hard to believe people are constantly reacting to the difficulty (yeah there's still that but I find it strange)..

Also the 10% treasury, well let's say we have a miner with 0 electricity and hardware cost making up 10% of all miners at all times - how is the emission **from** the treasury regulated?

Question for miners, when mining on AMD cards, do you prefer Ethereum-like clock / voltage settings or Cryptonite-like clock settings?


I never change in my MSI Afterburner. I leave as is all settings from ETH. No any different if change or not.

Thanks, I may also try cryptonote favouring clocks if I have the time, will post here if anybody's interested.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 09, 2019, 07:07:36 PM
Question for miners, when mining on AMD cards, do you prefer Ethereum-like clock / voltage settings or Cryptonite-like clock settings?
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 09, 2019, 05:52:11 AM
SPARKPOOL does not publish blocks mined
SPARKPOOL has over 60% of the network


for these reasons alone, you should NOT be mining there. if you do not know why, you simply shouldn't be mining.

Spark working normal. But if you don't like Chinese language,
you can reconnect to another pool. I receive >16 BEAM's   :-)

if 'working normal' means you are happy to let them hide which blocks they mine, then feel free.
it's got nothing to do with language.

Is this from a previous experience with another currency or do they do this with Beam? If so, how can we verify this?


you can verify it by trying to find the block list of the pool - you won't find it because it's hidden.

It's true that they'd better be much more transparent, but having said that there's no way to audit ANY pool, even when they are displaying all blocks found by the pool. The only way to come close to auditing the pool is to see how much your miner is earning over a period of time with the network difficulty throughout. I'm not supporting their lack of info here but don't trust a pool just because they are displaying the blocks, as far as checking pool integrity, it's worthless information.

60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine on: January 08, 2019, 09:18:33 PM
SPARKPOOL does not publish blocks mined
SPARKPOOL has over 60% of the network


for these reasons alone, you should NOT be mining there. if you do not know why, you simply shouldn't be mining.

Spark working normal. But if you don't like Chinese language,
you can reconnect to another pool. I receive >16 BEAM's   :-)

if 'working normal' means you are happy to let them hide which blocks they mine, then feel free.
it's got nothing to do with language.

Is this from a previous experience with another currency or do they do this with Beam? If so, how can we verify this?
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