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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
thanks for the questions Sergej In Switzerland there are about 400,000 of these buildings and about 10%, so 40,000 are usable for us. In most cases we have to supply the electricity to the stables. The costs for the development of the first building were 30'000 CHF, but mostly 2-4 of these buildings are in the same place and we can therefore split these costs. The first stable which can be seen in the video has 2 more next door and all 3 are now useable. Therefore, the costs are quite acceptable there. Currently we have large scale contracts (with a minimum that we have to buy) for hydro power and we pay 5.23 cents per KW / H. When operating our own power plants, we will operate the containers next to them and operate our own network in order to not have to use the public grid. the idea is to operate small hydropowerplants (we have more then 1400 of them in switzerland), they are exempted from water taxes in switzerland. and of course they are much cheaper to buy  About the banks, currentlyl we work with a swiss bank (you can see the details when you go to our tokensale plattform) but maybe we will switch to a bank in liechtenstein because they can provide us also with wallets etc. Swiss Alps Energy is currently in process to get a SRO Member in Switzerland. Best Regards Swiss Alps Mining Thank you for your feedback. 3 houses in one location means you will at least need 750A if you put a small cube in each of the houses - not many trafo stations are available close to these buildings that can supply this, and building your own trafo station costs a fortune (6digits +). How will you manage this ? Thank you & my best regards Sergej Good Question we have contracts with our supplier which oblige us to purchase at least a certain amount of electricity, but it also obliges our suppliers to deliver this quantity and this also includes the necessary trafo. let me ask on monday our Head of Electric what are the exact Numbers of „A“ for a Unit One. we run more then 1 unit one in each stable but i really have to ask our Electric Guy about Numbers Best Regards Christian Swiss Alps Mining ⛏ |
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tell me do you plan to translate the site into other languages? as I see, there is a large list, but in fact there is no translation.
yes will come in the next days. |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. Are you already renting those cubes,where can i see those cubes working? Yes,i would like to see some videos too,so we are sure those cubes actually exist. Sure, please join our telegram group there we will share working cubes video.. Can anyone share that link here? Tnx |
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Any news about the project?
we are currently in privatesale tier 2. |
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yes it is absolutely stable, many of the power plants are in the mountains.
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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
thanks for the questions Sergej In Switzerland there are about 400,000 of these buildings and about 10%, so 40,000 are usable for us. In most cases we have to supply the electricity to the stables. The costs for the development of the first building were 30'000 CHF, but mostly 2-4 of these buildings are in the same place and we can therefore split these costs. The first stable which can be seen in the video has 2 more next door and all 3 are now useable. Therefore, the costs are quite acceptable there. Currently we have large scale contracts (with a minimum that we have to buy) for hydro power and we pay 5.23 cents per KW / H. When operating our own power plants, we will operate the containers next to them and operate our own network in order to not have to use the public grid. the idea is to operate small hydropowerplants (we have more then 1400 of them in switzerland), they are exempted from water taxes in switzerland. and of course they are much cheaper to buy About the banks, currentlyl we work with a swiss bank (you can see the details when you go to our tokensale plattform) but maybe we will switch to a bank in liechtenstein because they can provide us also with wallets etc. Swiss Alps Energy is currently in process to get a SRO Member in Switzerland. Best Regards Swiss Alps Mining |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. |
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Swiss Alps Mining on Bad Crypto Podcast Check it out: |
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I love the project, but from what I can get from the WP, the tokens are just for a "one off" purchase of hash power from them... The SAM token doesn't represent a stake in the future of the company or its sucess and that is what I don't like, for something as promising as this I wold like to be part of their success. :-( The other usual option, hold the token and wait until the price goes up, doesn't work here either... What is the point buying expensive hash power if the token does 2x or 3x up??? I would love to be able to have more "permanent stack" in this project ... Cheers MC  expensive hash power? 14 TH for USD 4000 (2years)including electricity is expensiv? according to our experience we have to replace hardware after 2 years so i think its a fair deal! pls note that you can also buy the hardware and pay the electricity with sam tokens. I didn't say that the hash power was expensive... What I meant was that you can't hope for a token increase, because if the token doubles in price and those 4000 become 8000$ then is will be expensive... Cheers MC You can trade the tokens or use them anytime, so if the price increase you can rent 28 Th for your 4000 USD invest. SAM will provide different services not only mining. Whats the expected revenue for the next year,2019? we have a ROI Calcultor online www.swissalpsmining.io, please check. |
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I love the project, but from what I can get from the WP, the tokens are just for a "one off" purchase of hash power from them... The SAM token doesn't represent a stake in the future of the company or its sucess and that is what I don't like, for something as promising as this I wold like to be part of their success. :-( The other usual option, hold the token and wait until the price goes up, doesn't work here either... What is the point buying expensive hash power if the token does 2x or 3x up??? I would love to be able to have more "permanent stack" in this project ... Cheers MC expensive hash power? 14 TH for USD 4000 (2years)including electricity is expensiv? according to our experience we have to replace hardware after 2 years so i think its a fair deal! pls note that you can also buy the hardware and pay the electricity with sam tokens. I didn't say that the hash power was expensive... What I meant was that you can't hope for a token increase, because if the token doubles in price and those 4000 become 8000$ then is will be expensive... Cheers MC You can trade the tokens or use them anytime, so if the price increase you can rent 28 Th for your 4000 USD invest. SAM will provide different services not only mining. |
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I love the project, but from what I can get from the WP, the tokens are just for a "one off" purchase of hash power from them... The SAM token doesn't represent a stake in the future of the company or its sucess and that is what I don't like, for something as promising as this I wold like to be part of their success. :-( The other usual option, hold the token and wait until the price goes up, doesn't work here either... What is the point buying expensive hash power if the token does 2x or 3x up??? I would love to be able to have more "permanent stack" in this project ... Cheers MC expensive hash power? 14 TH for USD 4000 (2years)including electricity is expensiv? according to our experience we have to replace hardware after 2 years so i think its a fair deal! pls note that you can also buy the hardware and pay the electricity with sam tokens. |
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What will be the main use of SAM tokens?
the tokens are used to pay all the SAM Services. |
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What is maximum that I can invest in your ICO during sale?
no limit until our hardcap is reached! privatesale is now open (min invest is 25k usd) tokensale.swissalpsmining.io @ludimax we have a buy and a rental model, maintance fee is 10% including setup and all costs. Whats the bonus for private sale? Tokenprice in Privatesale is 0.30 - for public sale it will start at 0.50 Do you have any bonus available? I believe that the bonus is show in the price of tokens 0.30 versus 0.50 per token. correct, price is between 0.30 - 0.80 |
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What is maximum that I can invest in your ICO during sale?
no limit until our hardcap is reached! privatesale is now open (min invest is 25k usd) tokensale.swissalpsmining.io @ludimax we have a buy and a rental model, maintance fee is 10% including setup and all costs. Whats the bonus for private sale? Tokenprice in Privatesale is 0.30 - for public sale it will start at 0.50 |
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What is maximum that I can invest in your ICO during sale?
no limit until our hardcap is reached! privatesale is now open (min invest is 25k usd) tokensale.swissalpsmining.io @ludimax we have a buy and a rental model, maintance fee is 10% including setup and all costs. |
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Looks like innovative and well prepared ICO from Swiss lands. Not sure how effectively it will work, but the team behind this project looks good and the concepts running on renewable energy is decent. But worries me is that there was one claiming simillar ideas and collected 100mln USD, yet it wasn't successful.
we have allready 3 Unit One running without ICO, we will be happy to build much more asap I thought you have 2.So you already added 1 more recently? yes we are building more cubes because they work for us, nr 3 is used for promotion at the moment. |
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Looks like innovative and well prepared ICO from Swiss lands. Not sure how effectively it will work, but the team behind this project looks good and the concepts running on renewable energy is decent. But worries me is that there was one claiming simillar ideas and collected 100mln USD, yet it wasn't successful.
we have allready 3 Unit One running without ICO, we will be happy to build much more asap |
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yes price must be paid in tokens.
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Do you have any of those SAM cubes working at the moment?
I think they are 2 currently active SAM cubes. Whats the plan untill end of this year,how many SAM cubes? Considering that three CUBS are in operation, I believe that the number can easily go to 10 by the end of the year, of course it depends on how much they collected at the sale... Well maybe, how much time is needed to build SAM cube? Good question there, I'll add one more.How much money does it cost to build it and keep it operational?What are the costs of maintaining one? the coasts are around 130‘000 for a unit one including hardware. |
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