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May 31, 2018, 08:15:41 AM |
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I guess a large number of renewable energy sources (hydro power plants etc.) [/quote] This project good news in future in the world
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May 31, 2018, 09:01:06 AM |
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Who do you consider to be your main competitor on the market?I know that there are plenty of mining projects around.
Every miner could be considered a competitor. But currently there is no other project that uses our combination of methods. But question is,is mining the future of crypto?Every day there is new proof-of-something,and that also should be considered.
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May 31, 2018, 09:35:11 AM |
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Swiss Alps Mining on Bad Crypto Podcast Check it out:
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May 31, 2018, 11:29:09 AM |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO.
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May 31, 2018, 03:21:57 PM |
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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
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May 31, 2018, 03:25:24 PM |
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What will you mine?
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May 31, 2018, 04:05:11 PM |
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What will you mine?
It's possible to mine BTC, ETH, Zcash, Dash and various other currencies.
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May 31, 2018, 06:28:09 PM |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. Are you already renting those cubes,where can i see those cubes working?
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May 31, 2018, 07:18:31 PM |
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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
You raised some valid concerns,i hope team members will answer to that,and explain.
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May 31, 2018, 07:38:29 PM |
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Ok, nice !! this could work. What type of tokens are these ? are they like security tokens ?
Nah, they are basicly utility tokens.
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June 01, 2018, 08:14:17 AM |
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You mentioned that you plan buying power plant.I guess that power plant will be in Switzerland,and also,is that easy to buy power plant?
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June 01, 2018, 08:29:15 AM |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. Are you already renting those cubes,where can i see those cubes working? Yes,i would like to see some videos too,so we are sure those cubes actually exist.
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June 01, 2018, 08:41:44 AM |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. Are you already renting those cubes,where can i see those cubes working? No dear, have to wait until ICO end for cubes on rent. Yes, you can see the working cubes in Switzerland.
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June 01, 2018, 08:46:10 AM |
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The first SAM Cubes have been equipped with mining rigs for the mining of ETH and Bitcoin. The SAM Cubes can be equipped with Asic or GPU miners, whereby a mixed model was chosen for SAM Unit 1. In the already functioning Unit 1 (4x2x2), 50 Asic miners are operated with a total capacity of 700 TH/s and several GPU rigs with a total capacity of 4000 MH/s. At this performance, currently about 115 ETH and 19 bitcoin are minted per year.
700 TH/s don't mine 19 BTC, less than 15 BTC would be more accurate. Probably old data,but still decent numbers i think. Whats the TH/s you plan to have till end of the year? our last unit one has around 800 TH, so actually we have 2200+ TH/s running in 3 Units. What we will have by end of year is really depends on the ICO. Are you already renting those cubes,where can i see those cubes working? Yes,i would like to see some videos too,so we are sure those cubes actually exist. Sure, please join our telegram group there we will share working cubes video..
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June 01, 2018, 08:50:48 AM |
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Which is tme minimum period in which someone can rent SAM cube?
2 years
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June 01, 2018, 08:52:13 AM |
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You mentioned that you plan buying power plant.I guess that power plant will be in Switzerland,and also,is that easy to buy power plant?
Yes, you are right. Power plants in Switzerland and difficult if you have that amount money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 01, 2018, 12:24:17 PM |
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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
thanks for the questions Sergej In Switzerland there are about 400,000 of these buildings and about 10%, so 40,000 are usable for us. In most cases we have to supply the electricity to the stables. The costs for the development of the first building were 30'000 CHF, but mostly 2-4 of these buildings are in the same place and we can therefore split these costs. The first stable which can be seen in the video has 2 more next door and all 3 are now useable. Therefore, the costs are quite acceptable there. Currently we have large scale contracts (with a minimum that we have to buy) for hydro power and we pay 5.23 cents per KW / H. When operating our own power plants, we will operate the containers next to them and operate our own network in order to not have to use the public grid. the idea is to operate small hydropowerplants (we have more then 1400 of them in switzerland), they are exempted from water taxes in switzerland. and of course they are much cheaper to buy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) About the banks, currentlyl we work with a swiss bank (you can see the details when you go to our tokensale plattform) but maybe we will switch to a bank in liechtenstein because they can provide us also with wallets etc. Swiss Alps Energy is currently in process to get a SRO Member in Switzerland. Best Regards Swiss Alps Mining
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June 01, 2018, 12:46:36 PM |
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You mentioned that you plan buying power plant.I guess that power plant will be in Switzerland,and also,is that easy to buy power plant?
Yes, you are right. Power plants in Switzerland and difficult if you have that amount money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you have enough amount of money you can buy anything ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 01, 2018, 03:17:35 PM |
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How do you plan to power these in the mountains ?
Quick calculation shows:
50 x S9 = 66 kw
4000 Mhs ETHASH = approx 130 RX 580, = 17.5 kw (+ Mainboards, routers, vents etc) (space must be packed in a 4m x 2m x 2m container ....)
So lets make that a generous 100 kw / Container. On 400 Volts, that's roughly 250 A.
Not one of the buildings in the mountains has that energy supply - so you will be restricted to locations that are either close to a trafo station, or close to e.g. ski lifts / mountain railways, otherwise you pay a fortune to get the energy laid to these locations.
The connection to a trafo station / ski lift will still need to be established, and depending on the distance, this is a 5-6 digit amount VERY quickly just to get the energy to the container.
In addition to that i miss the mentioning of the swiss electricty grid usage cost (5-6 rp/kwh) and general cost (2.6 rp/kwh) in your calculations and whitepaper.
So in essence, without having your own hydro power stations, you are looking at at least 10 rp/kwh for energy, and thats already the best case. More likely 13-16 rp/kwh.
Even IF you acquire your own hydro plants, the swiss electrity grid usage fee will still need to be paid (happy to learn something new here if that's not the case).
Thank you for your feedback, wish you all the best with the ICO.
my best regards
Sergej
PS: on a sidenote - as far as i know all swiss banks have cancelled / do not further maintain banking relationships with crypto mining companies. Do you bank out of Liechtenstein?
thanks for the questions Sergej In Switzerland there are about 400,000 of these buildings and about 10%, so 40,000 are usable for us. In most cases we have to supply the electricity to the stables. The costs for the development of the first building were 30'000 CHF, but mostly 2-4 of these buildings are in the same place and we can therefore split these costs. The first stable which can be seen in the video has 2 more next door and all 3 are now useable. Therefore, the costs are quite acceptable there. Currently we have large scale contracts (with a minimum that we have to buy) for hydro power and we pay 5.23 cents per KW / H. When operating our own power plants, we will operate the containers next to them and operate our own network in order to not have to use the public grid. the idea is to operate small hydropowerplants (we have more then 1400 of them in switzerland), they are exempted from water taxes in switzerland. and of course they are much cheaper to buy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) About the banks, currentlyl we work with a swiss bank (you can see the details when you go to our tokensale plattform) but maybe we will switch to a bank in liechtenstein because they can provide us also with wallets etc. Swiss Alps Energy is currently in process to get a SRO Member in Switzerland. Best Regards Swiss Alps Mining Since those buildings are in the mountains,is electricity stabile there,i mean did you have any kind of power shortages yet due bad weather,snow etc?
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June 01, 2018, 03:35:31 PM |
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yes it is absolutely stable, many of the power plants are in the mountains.
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