Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.
You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means? Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority. No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority. Xnodes don't require 17 BTC to run
Only reason why xnode doesn't require 17 BTC is because xc is worthless. If it 10x or 100x in value then it's gonna be just as "expensive". The code is also out in the open, unlike DRK. How much less decentralised can you get than closed source?
You keep posting here about XCs latest source not being available yet but when has DRKs?
Contradicting yourself much? Xnode source is not out in the open. they don't require a setup on a separate server with their own security to operate safely.
XC requires dedicated nodes to operate at all. Would you rather run your distributed app on hundreds or even thousands of dedicated servers with gigabit connections or on average Joes' laptops running on wi-fi connections? Btw, drk's masternode payments solve the problem that is very real even in bitcoin, which is that not many people are willing to run nodes because there is no incentive. And why do you think Evan hasn't released the DRK source?
Because otherwise we'd have tens of drk clones by now copy-pasted by clueless devs and people losing their monies in them. Closed source = decentralised.
So xc is decentralised by your definition then. Enjoy.
You're welcome. Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' He's out of his depth and scared. And of course he should be scared of clones, other teams would do a better job at creating a clone than he will creating the original. XC already has its clones and they are miles behind. It's the advantage of having a qualified Dev, it doesn't matter who else has your code aslong as your a better coder. With Evan there are a hundred better coders in the altcoin space. With dan I'm struggling to think of even one And nope, comparing market caps, XC nodes cost ten time less. And of course you wouldn't want them run on a small ammount of professionally run servers, you want to spread the load as much as possible to stop a small amount of nodes cracking the paths. You can keep thinking these limiting factors are advantages but they are not. They are characteristics of a seriously outdated system. Enjoy again. |
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It seems coins are arriving everyday advertising anonymity.
Some are promises. Some are in testing. Some are command line. Some are only for windows.
Is there a true anonymous coin now with gui for linux, mac, and windows?
XC. There is a 1BTC bounty for someone to track a transaction and it hasn't been cracked yet. Anonymous IM should also be implemented within the week. |
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Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.
You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means? Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority. No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority. Xnodes don't require 17 BTC to run, they don't require a setup on a separate server with their own security to operate safely. Xnodes wont be restricted to about a thousand nodes max run by the rich. The code is also out in the open, unlike DRK. How much less decentralised can you get than closed source? You keep posting here about XCs latest source not being available yet but when has DRKs? I don't see you in the DRK thread asking constantly. Closed source = about as non decentralised as it gets. |
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release
This is fucking huge!! Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required! Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev. Basically this feature creates a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver --- which the sender users for this specific transaction, all handled by the client's themselves Xnode already do that. a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver. Take another option to Xnode. 1) relay or mixing 2) Oh receiver is my address. then Send coins to blabla... BTW, Where is white paper ? I think you should just put all your accusations in one long post and then someone will get them answered from the Dev, instead of hiding here where your accusations to unchallenged. Seriously. |
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Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.
You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means? Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority. Thanks. |
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XC in a matter of days will be considerably more anonymous and much more secure
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please, tell me where I'm wrong.
XC nodes can steal the coins from the transaction. Very secure indeed. P2P anonymous platform.
What is this amazing buzz word "platform" you keep referring to btw? XC nodes won't be able to steal the coins once Rev 2 is released. Multisig implementation will prevent this. From there it is a complete solution. This will be released in the next couple of weeks. I thought you were saying in a matter of days. Ok, it's weeks then. You mean multisig like darkcoin?  What happened to the dynamic trust model? I can see what the next step is.. *cough* collateral *cough*. It would be probably easier to wait until drk is open sourced and fork from that.  Platform, in the next few days the first features will be introduced, first I believe will be anonymous P2P IM. From there the xnode architecture can be built on to provide hundreds of different types of applications in a P2P decentralised structure, the possibilities are endless and only limited by the developers. XNode system is setup to be built upon, not as just mixers
And this differs from the bitcoin "platform" or any other coin's "platform" how exactly? You could say that about every coin, because every coin has nodes that can be programmed to do anything. Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo. |
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XC in a matter of days will be considerably more anonymous and much more secure
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please, tell me where I'm wrong.
XC nodes can steal the coins from the transaction. Very secure indeed. P2P anonymous platform.
What is this amazing buzz word "platform" you keep referring to btw? XC nodes won't be able to steal the coins once Rev 2 is released. Multisig implementation will prevent this. From there it is a complete solution. This will be released in the next couple of weeks. Unlike the DRK Dev the XC Dev actually sticks to, and beats deadlines. Platform, in the next few days the first features will be introduced, first I believe will be anonymous P2P IM. From there the xnode architecture can be built on to provide hundreds of different types of applications in a P2P decentralised structure, the possibilities are endless and only limited by the developers. XNode system is setup to be built upon, not as just mixers You can check all this for yourself if you just did your research instead of asking stupid questions. Anything else? Or is that actually it? Because I can create a list ten times larger than that for DRKs issues. Are you that stupid....you keep saying "Just wait until XC Rev 2 and multi-sigs". You do realise DRK already has multi-sigs in Darksend and is currently functional. XC dev switched to multi-sigs when he realised he couldn't get around the bad actor problem and is now following Darksend. At this current time XC 1.5 transfers the ACTUAL coins to the mixer. How fucking stupid is that. Edit: And also what did happen to the buzz word filled "dynamic trust learning system" just wait when XC Dev announces "XC Collateral" again following Darkcoin. Ahaha so what, we have a working p2p decentralised system, while your using a centralised coinjoin clone. I'm not wasting my time here. If you guys wanna bag hold the losing fighter that's up to you |
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 Experience taught me a few things. One is to listen to your gut! No matter how many FUD there is trying to discredit this coin!The second is that you're generally better off sticking with what you know - Mind Fox + Me = Success BTC And The third is that sometimes your best investments are the ones you don't make. I fight for what I believe in. I am a mercenary, and I believe in CRY! The One and Truly 100% anonymous coin of the future!I listened to what you said on 6th of June. Mindfox in = great but besides that nothing substantial happened. Please convince me with something more before I decide to buy back.. What fact will take this up after dubble top on Polo? Nothing much has happened? Besides the 2800% rise? The Anon will take time, the devs are working day and night to perfect it. If you think the price is high now, wait until the Anon is delivered. The whales are maintaining the price and slowly raising it to that take off. VeriCoin uses a centralised system, these will never succeed. Even the CRYPT developers know that. It defeats the whole purpose of what bitcoin is trying to achieve The future is in true P2P decentralised anonymous systems, not these coinjoin clones. |
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Thats it guys party is over... we have some hot chocalate and warm clothes for those who jump into the water leave the sinkin ship, come right over to the next coin.
Remember once a coin gets on Mintpal ...the magic pump number is 5x. so... 50K---250K..? i can sing you song about this development.
edited before misconseption starts*
The coin has some good dev names to back up the claims, DRK could go 0.02x, this could easily make 0.01x Exactly, I believe this coin could easy go to 0.01, but think thats still to low if developers continue to be proactive and take the top anon coin spot. So far there system seems the best, would be interesting if someone could lay out other coins compared to cloakcoin that claim anon tech. It's proven here and works, so I'd think we won that battle. So if dark is can do 0.02 without even proving itself fully, then what would 4.5 million conis for cloakcoin go to? I think 0.05 is not unreasonable if everying continues as is, and keeps actively delivering, it could be a top #3 coins list. You ever heard of XC? It has the best system by far, Its already months ahead of CRYPT and progressing at a faster rate People thinking this coin will succeed when the competition doesn't just have a better strategy, but they have a better team, are crazy. |
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Panic setting in over at our "rival" watch the BTC flow back...
Rival? That's cute.  |
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Higher Highs and higher lows, this "should" bounce agin about now...  Ahaha is that alarm your sell point?  |
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To move up 15 points we need 15BTC worth of buys
To move down 15 points we need 200BTC worth of sells
I'm looking forward to the panic buying when the CRYPT bubble pops, getting the popcorn ready
On another note, it seems like allot of the sell support has disappeared. Just noticed, 200BTC now takes us to 0.0019 instead of the 0.00173 a few days ago
I can see some big moves happening soon
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XC is going to have its super pump day soon enough like all these other coins are getting! I have been a follower from the start and have quite a large portion of my portfolio in XC. I'm hoping for a more steady rise though tbh.
Good luck XC!!
In my opinion we will see very super pump, i dont know when, but i hope this month, i think we can easily be 10x better in price than now.. so i expect that XC wi be ~0,01 after super pump, which will se soon God, hope you right. In on XC with over 80% of my stack Never before i put so much in a single coin see in few weeks, if we wont have a big pump, when rev2 will be realeased, so we wont have a pump never i think.. It won't be a pump in that sense. It will be price discovery. There won't be a dump. People can't seriously go on much longer believing a much more secure and anonymous decentralised P2P platform is worth 10% of DRKs semi centralised coinjoin clone. There will be a correction, and it will be biblical |
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XC in a matter of days will be considerably more anonymous and much more secure
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please, tell me where I'm wrong.
XC nodes can steal the coins from the transaction. Very secure indeed. P2P anonymous platform.
What is this amazing buzz word "platform" you keep referring to btw? XC nodes won't be able to steal the coins once Rev 2 is released. Multisig implementation will prevent this. From there it is a complete solution. This will be released in the next couple of weeks. Unlike the DRK Dev the XC Dev actually sticks to, and beats deadlines. Platform, in the next few days the first features will be introduced, first I believe will be anonymous P2P IM. From there the xnode architecture can be built on to provide hundreds of different types of applications in a P2P decentralised structure, the possibilities are endless and only limited by the developers. XNode system is setup to be built upon, not as just mixers You can check all this for yourself if you just did your research instead of asking stupid questions. Anything else? Or is that actually it? Because I can create a list ten times larger than that for DRKs issues. |
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Do u trust people on Bitcointalk, in particular in the altcoin subforum?
I dont. This section is full of scam and wild west villainy, it makes u wonder how Bitcointalk keeps up with such vast amounts of utter shite.
Worst part is 98% of posts have a hidden agenda newbs tend to overlook.
~CfA~
I don't trust anyone here but especially not you, you've stolen CFB's username and your now signing your name like bloody BCX. I don't know who you are but something inside of me says your trying to build up trust for a big scam at one point. Just my two cents. |
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Loving the counter-arguement. Speaks volumes.
It was exactly what your arguments were worth. Would you've been happier if I responded with a slur of zero-substance buzz words? Zero substance buzzwords? These arn't buzzwords, they are substantiated facts. I'm sorry you don't understand what is the basis for an argument here. The fact is, DRK offers a poorly designed option for a centralised anonymous currency, while XC in a matter of days will be considerably more anonymous and much more secure, and it will lay the foundations for a decentralised platform. What took DRK nearly six months to achieve has been significantly bettered in less than two. We're now in a situation where we are comparing a semi centralised coinjoin clone to a decentralised P2P anonymous platform. The only thing DRK has got going for it was its initial media attention as a first mover, if it started now as brand new coin its technology would be laughed out of the room as another shity P&D. You can keep deviating from the arguement but please, tell me where I'm wrong. |
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Lol, right. And santas going to personally deliver my presents next year. You guys make me sick. |
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I can't wait to see this place turn to shit once this goes, got the popcorn on standby
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Why would XC owners care about missing out on DRK? they are still early adopters of a technology that will be leaps and bounds ahead of DRK. As far as I can see, all of the issues posted in this thread will be fixed when Rev2 is released, this means XC will have a decentralised p2p anonymous platform while DRK will just be annother anonymous centralised currency.
And to put this in perspective, this has all been built from the ground up in just over a month. The same amount of time its taken DRK to fix one 'simple' bug. Imagine what its going to be like in three months when the XC platform is fully developed and DRK is only nearing somewhat anonymity. You guys are seriously going to lag behind. Your dev is an amateur compared to XC's, there is no doubt about it.
Its you guys who are on the wrong ship, not us. It just seems like you don't want to accept it.
But whatever, XC still has leaps and bounds to go while DRK has hit its peak. I know which one im invested in.
I know which one im invested in.  Loving the counter-arguement. Speaks volumes. |
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Let it go mate. No need to attack other communities. XMR is not a scam coin like XC.
People are so doused in XC shit that they have forgotten it is a pile of do-do made up of hatred towards Evan by their leader. No where else have I seen such retardation being celebrated but XC. Fucking used X11coin as the name to mock the birth of Darkcoin. Kept deleting repositories, now no one can ascertain how many coins are actually there. No wonder 100 btc sell walls keep popping and the deluded deranged fanatics call it a sabotage by DRK holders. What the fuck is wrong with people.
Why does XC thread have x11 in their title? makes no sense? you can only buy it from shit selling/salesguys resellers now, so they should name it as such. When you prove it is linkable, they mock you. When you say you are done, they still mock you and call you names. It is like a bunch of people are now proud to be haters for missing out on DRK.
Why would XC owners care about missing out on DRK? they are still early adopters of a technology that will be leaps and bounds ahead of DRK. As far as I can see, all of the issues posted in this thread will be fixed when Rev2 is released, this means XC will have a decentralised p2p anonymous platform while DRK will just be annother anonymous centralised currency. And to put this in perspective, this has all been built from the ground up in just over a month. The same amount of time its taken DRK to fix one 'simple' bug. Imagine what its going to be like in three months when the XC platform is fully developed and DRK is only nearing somewhat anonymity. You guys are seriously going to lag behind. Your dev is an amateur compared to XC's, there is no doubt about it. Its you guys who are on the wrong ship, not us. It just seems like you don't want to accept it. But whatever, XC still has leaps and bounds to go while DRK has hit its peak. I know which one im invested in. |
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