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1  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: February 07, 2019, 06:54:17 PM
If the forum does not prohibit sale accounts, then it is profitable them
The forum doesn't have any profits from the sale of accounts as it has no connection with members who decide to trade their accounts.
The forum encourages us not to sell accounts but doesn't state it's against the rules,but definitely if one is caught in the act,its a straight red tag.
I think the rules on account sales should be changed and it should be made known that it's against the rules and should not be done
Thanks for your support. You are absolutely right. The scams should stop.
2  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: February 07, 2019, 06:49:02 PM
He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
Thanks.

Your friend has done this,
So it's only natural to get a ban.
Is this enough to prove your friend is guilty...?


account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909172[yla1974]

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2021015.msg23574141#msg23574141
ETH wallet:0x23B13556f69987b689C1E2f883E9B3d8d615A5a3

Bitcointalk username:yla1974   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909172;

calculations:

Signature Campaign:8231.707317

Partial payment: 1182.6544  

Remaining Tokens Amount: 7049.052917


Accounts Connected:

fantom1962 , yla1974 , alex bond , ligator19840208 , pit19521506 , miramax-10 , viktoriya1945  

Proof:
AFTER hours of investigation I've linked only 4/7 accounts ...

Which four?

Code:
[color=red]0x23B13556f69987b689C1E2f883E9B3d8d615A5a3[/color]
0x5cc9565f9fd0af0e2f2721af9d6dad6bd1821686
0x546ab5233a660b6ea6752064851bbc9ce5fc68d0
0x58e4248ac427c4c88fbacfdfec6611b430fe9388

yla1974 ligator19840208 miramax-10 viktoriya1945  

Quote
Code:
http://archive.is/z6PIJ#selection-9021.11-9021.54




WOW THE SPREADSHEET IT'S GONE! maybe he has powerful friends.


@fantom1962. is now banned for plagiarism: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042560.msg46441905#msg46441905

also adding this



Done with  DdmrDdmr tool

+ Adding 3 alts


+ 3 accounts: vavan1974muz, aligator2017, Webcelerator.

Humaniq token transactions to the same wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0x6190dc10745828d54a486ec58d0e9b4871aae2ae#tokentxns
Data can be found on Humaniq Signature Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GUa7COUdyhZffiiEALO9x_GiYahGr5ZSj5q0UJ0sB3U/edit#gid=0
#093 0x5Cc9565F9Fd0af0E2F2721aF9D6dad6bD1821686 pit19521506
#116 0x58E4248Ac427C4C88FBAcfDFEC6611B430fe9388 Webcelerator.
#117 0x546Ab5233A660b6Ea6752064851BBC9ce5fc68d0 vavan1974muz

Suretly tokens transactions to the same wallet: https://etherscan.io/token/0xe120c1ecbfdfea7f0a8f0ee30063491e8c26fedf?a=0x58e4248ac427c4c88fbacfdfec6611b430fe9388
Data can be found on Suretly Signature Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Neq7KivGjqkNPfZCrkWpOEsYXBZKBUHsfM83-u5S6rU/edit#gid=1750124709
#046 0x5Cc9565F9Fd0af0E2F2721aF9D6dad6bD1821686 ligator19840208
#064 0x58E4248Ac427C4C88FBAcfDFEC6611B430fe9388 viktoriya1945
#076 0x546Ab5233A660b6Ea6752064851BBC9ce5fc68d0 aligator2017
#115 0x23B13556f69987b689C1E2f883E9B3d8d615A5a3 fantom1962.

So there's no need to ask more about your friends, everything has been proven.
My friend bought an account in July. But this is not interesting to anyone. It is much easier to throw mud at a person who was already robbed by a fraudster.
Please, bun it all connected.
3  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: February 07, 2019, 06:46:08 PM
Are you sure you are able to answer for everyone on the forum? Forum users are robbed, indicating the rules, which states that the purchase of an account is not prohibited. And in fact, not guilty is punished. The user was left without money, and received a ban, for the actions of the fraudster seller. And you say that the forum has nothing to do with it? The forum allows this to occur, and thus contributes to fraud. You worship the forum rules, but you yourself do not follow them. You can not always ban a person who is not guilty, and did not violate the rules of the forum. Permanent ban, this is for the individual, but not for the account, as it is written in the rules! So where is the logic in the punishment of a non-wine and deceived person?

Still waiting for you to answer on how the forum profits from account sales.

Do they take a small part of the scammer’s profit?
Do they even recommend people to buy accounts?

No? Then, they don’t profit shit from people like “your friend”; If you haven’t noticed yet, the ban will stay regardless of what you say. That - unlike what you said - is indeed a fact.
It is not possible to control who makes a profit in a place with fraudsters. Easier to prohibit trade accounts.
I do not ask anyone to cancel the ban, it is meaningless. Where there is no responsible, there is no order.
The only thing I would like to convey is the benefit for all. Ban account trading if you are unable to regulate it!
4  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: February 04, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
If the forum does not prohibit sale accounts, then it is profitable for them. So fraudsters thrive. Fact is a fact.
I'm not looking for justice, she's not here. I want to reach the moderators. Stop contributing to scammers! If you do not do this, will call the entire forum scamners.
Stop sales account!
Fact? How exactly does the forum profit from account sales?
Are you sure you are able to answer for everyone on the forum? Forum users are robbed, indicating the rules, which states that the purchase of an account is not prohibited. And in fact, not guilty is punished. The user was left without money, and received a ban, for the actions of the fraudster seller. And you say that the forum has nothing to do with it? The forum allows this to occur, and thus contributes to fraud. You worship the forum rules, but you yourself do not follow them. You can not always ban a person who is not guilty, and did not violate the rules of the forum. Permanent ban, this is for the individual, but not for the account, as it is written in the rules! So where is the logic in the punishment of a non-wine and deceived person?
5  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 26, 2019, 10:17:58 AM
In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
No, that analogy is not right. A better analogy is if the previous owner threw sand in the crankcase causing the engine to blow up some time later after you bought it, then blaming the car's manufacturer for allowing used car sales. The moral of the story is, when buying a used car from a stranger, check the oil first, if only to make sure it is in fact oil and not sand.
It is convenient to interpret the rules to those who write them, but the fact remains. Failure to regulate trade accounts, and there is aiding fraud. It’s not for me to judge you, time will judge. I would reconsider the question of trading accounts. People do not like when they are deceived, and it does not honor our forum.


You are asking for help that would work almost like a state justice. The fact that it is not totally forbidden does not mean that the buying and selling of accounts are encouraged. Regulating this trade would bring responsibilities that the forum does not want to have.

Whoever buys an account knows the risks it runs. Do not try to hold the forum responsible for your risky, and stupid, decisions.

"Arise, you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fences!"
If the forum does not prohibit sale accounts, then it is profitable for them. So fraudsters thrive. Fact is a fact.
I'm not looking for justice, she's not here. I want to reach the moderators. Stop contributing to scammers! If you do not do this, will call the entire forum scamners.
Stop sales account!
6  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 22, 2019, 09:44:09 PM
In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
No, that analogy is not right. A better analogy is if the previous owner threw sand in the crankcase causing the engine to blow up some time later after you bought it, then blaming the car's manufacturer for allowing used car sales. The moral of the story is, when buying a used car from a stranger, check the oil first, if only to make sure it is in fact oil and not sand.
It is convenient to interpret the rules to those who write them, but the fact remains. Failure to regulate trade accounts, and there is aiding fraud. It’s not for me to judge you, time will judge. I would reconsider the question of trading accounts. People do not like when they are deceived, and it does not honor our forum.
7  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 22, 2019, 09:37:54 PM
~

Almost every account of the "farm" (I guess all sold now) are now banned:

alex bond for plagiarism

fantom1962. for plagiarism
yla1974 for plagiarism
miramax-10 banned plagiarism no confirmation
viktoriya1945 for plagiarism
Webcelerator. banned plagiarism no confirmation


We did it! Cheesy

Missing some accounts on this list, if we dig more I guess we can finish them
If the accounts are really connected, I think it is worth punishing the fraudster.
8  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 22, 2019, 09:36:26 PM
Hello. My friend's account was banned.

Your "brother" Criptomen was banned because of plagiarism and now it's happened to your "friend". Do your relatives have other accounts?

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum. The account received the ban through the fault of the former owner who received $ 3000 for it. Why should the rules allow the trading of accounts, if not respected property rights? Who benefits from trading accounts on the forum?
Why do we need rules that do not work? It already looks like a fraud.
Who is punished with a ban?
You are right, the same thing happened to my brother. But there was proven his fault, and not the previous owner. He made a mistake in the translation, and it was given for plagiarism.
9  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 20, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
Thanks.

Fine. Think of it as banning the previous owner and buying a banned account.
In this case, the forum acts as a fraud, as well as the previous owner of the account. If trade in accounts is allowed, then there must be order. Rules create for their execution, for all right? As I understand it.
If you buy a car from a stranger, and you are shot for it on the street, taking for the previous owner. It is right?
10  Other / Meta / Re: yla1974 bun. on: January 17, 2019, 10:06:26 PM
He bought an account on the forum in the month of July 2018. There is evidence. Looks like the previous owner acted like a crook. Used plagiarism. Due to the fact that it is not the account that is being punished but a person, is there any sense in punishing with permabun new owner, for what he did not do.?
Thanks.
11  Other / Meta / yla1974 bun. on: January 16, 2019, 09:33:36 PM
Hello. My friend's account was banned. Please tell me the reason for what happened. Thank you very much.
12  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Будет-ли новый скачек битка в декабре 2018 ? on: October 26, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
Скачок будет 100%, вот только в какую сторону, это вопрос интересный. Все набрали мешки, и усреднились несколько раз, сидят холдят убытки. А реальные деньги в низу. Теперь нужно создать обстоятельства, что бы распродались, и только потом повезут, но куда, не знает ни кто, кроме ведущего рынок. Так что не томите себя иллюзиями, делайте деньги сегодня. Всем удачи и доходов!
13  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 20, 2018, 10:19:51 AM
All posts after June 22 made by me...

Your post, which was written on July 10.

Copy:
Bitcoin is the first decentralized payment network that operates only due of its users, without centralized management or intermediaries. It is the lack of centralized control over the processes - the main reason why governments are afraid of crypto-currency.

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities.

Bitcoin doesn't allow to do it all, so they are dissatisfied

Original:
Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities. But all this control is lost when non-governmental organizations devise their currency.

Control over the currency has many different hidden currents, especially in the framework of the fiscal policy of the country, the business environment, and, of course, crime control.

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.
The topic can be closed. The question is settled. Thanks to all.
14  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 03:16:48 PM
The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?


He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:
Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  Smiley



Original:
гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe


Always Ban a person, not an account! It is for this reason, the opening of a new account, is considered an evasion. The owner of the account, did not write this post. Do you know the rules of the forum?
Rule 23. It says: forum moderators, can always interpret the situation based on their own considerations. You can not blame them, they have a lot of work, and there is no way to sort things out. They have the right to do so. Guilty or not guilty! Now they have complete information of what happened. Thank you for your time and participation, friends. Criptomen is my brother, from here worry.
15  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 02:46:01 PM
Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.


You are not in your right mind clearly. Let me get this straight to you because Ddmr's way on telling this with a car as an example is kinda has a loophole to counter. Buying and selling account is not moderated by the forum, so why the hell does forum should look into the matters that is not moderated by the forum? Maybe banning a scammer can be done in this case, but repairing a broken thing you bought is not forum's responsibility, instead you should complain to the seller who sold you that account.

When you buying a second-hand car from others and you find the car won't start in the next day, do you complain to the car dealer or the person who sold you that car?
The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?
16  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
In the case of the car, you can still prove the fact of the violation of the law by the previous owner, and in the event of violation of the forum rules by the account - it doesn`t matter which of the account owners made it. Even if the purchase of this account occurred on the forum with transactions and full correspondence.

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

How should the forum regulate the purchase / sale of accounts? Why do you compare federal laws and punishments with forum rules ?? Are you in the right mind?

How to regulate the purchase or sale, I do not know, but you need to punish the guilty! This rule should not have shades. What is the use of punishing the obedient at the forum?
17  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 02:06:27 PM
Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.
18  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 12:24:16 PM
What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.
Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.
19  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Criptomen on: September 19, 2018, 07:28:47 AM
What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum. The account received the ban through the fault of the former owner who received $ 3000 for it. Why should the rules allow the trading of accounts, if not respected property rights? Who benefits from trading accounts on the forum?
Why do we need rules that do not work? It already looks like a fraud.
Who is punished with a ban?
20  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: Бан! on: September 14, 2018, 02:22:06 PM
День добрый!
У меня забанили брата. Написано за плагиат. Где можно увидеть нарушение. Все посты, писал он сам, из головы. Создал тему в Мета, ожидает ответа, писать ему больше ни где нельзя по правилам. Но насколько я понял, забанили в рукоязычной ветке.
Его никнейм: Criptomen.
Спасибо.
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Спасибо за ваше время, и извините за беспокойство.
Объяснение произошедшего, он вам пишет в личку.
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