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1  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: September 16, 2014, 02:22:19 AM
When would they not be concerns?

Now apparently when you have a board member stating it is of considerably less significance than the other factors he gave.
2  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: September 16, 2014, 12:41:30 AM
Based on the information provided the gen4 is coming along according to schedule. There will be some time span in which it will be evaluated. However, to put things in perspective any new chips will not move the profit margins too much. Profit margins are mainly a function of BTC price, network power and average upkeep costs. The tech has moved quickly in the last 2 years and is hitting Moore's barrier pretty hard. Main profits will likely come from innovative ways to reduce capex and opex, which not necessarily requires the latest chips.

I really don't see why there is such concern for Gen4. From Jutarul's statement it appears the current concerns are with the size of the network, the cost of maintaining what they presently have or will have and the price of BTC.
3  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: September 10, 2014, 01:54:20 AM
If Capex and Opex are currently of greater significance then Gen 4 seeing the light of day soon, what can be said about plans and developments in that regard?
4  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 23, 2014, 11:41:52 PM
Is there any interest in putting together money for advertisement space on the forum? I'd be willing to throw down for the forum and on dogie's reviews

Why? It would seem to reason if more emphasis was needed to sell hardware or promote the company it would have already been forthcoming internally which leaves me the impression AM is focused on self mining with the remaining batch of Gen 3 ASICs.
5  Economy / Services / Re: EARN BITCOIN WITH YOUR SIGNATURE ,UP TO 0.1BTC A MONTH, ONLY 30 SLOTS LEFT on: August 23, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Can anyone confirm if they're slots available?  Roll Eyes
I'm a Full Member interested in joining the campaign  Wink

Thanks!

There are 30 slots in total but one is crossed out so there might be one available. You have to wait for sun to answer to be sure.

FWIW slot 20 is crossed out but repeated below with another entrant.
6  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 17, 2014, 03:36:01 PM
Has this baby been paying dividends with its recent sales and mining?

I see the price on Havelock is down in the 0.2 range -https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=AM1

Am wondering if i should take a bite  Cheesy





 You can take a bite but not too big as the volume is pretty low and you will drive the price up quickly IMHO.  I think people are in "wiat and see" mode as sales of the AsicminerTube have begun and divs are on the horizon Wink



Let's not forget the recommencement of mining.

Update

1. ....the self mining has re-started from middle of July.
7  Economy / Services / Re: EARN BITCOIN WITH YOUR SIGNATURE ,UP TO 0.1BTC A MONTH, ONLY 30 SLOTS LEFT on: August 16, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
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8  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 11, 2014, 11:19:17 AM
Guys, take a look at this chart: The hash rate of the unknown addresses has increased dramatically: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/hashrate/6m?c=m&t=l Do you believe it could be solo- or franchised mining done by AM?

I'd follow along here http://organofcorti.blogspot.ca to see if he's able to give a better application of who accounts for "unknown". Or we could just hope AM provides access to the information as we had with erpao.info in the past.
9  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 01, 2014, 11:29:45 PM
I suspect they will have a website at some point as a result of plans for manufacturing equipment and I equally expect tonight will be focused on developing and selling future product more than selling the merits of the company based on past instances. I am doubtful this meeting is designed to cater to shareholders.
10  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 01, 2014, 09:06:28 PM
One thing we know for sure that this announcement will do: cause havelock to go offline.

Now that's a forecast we can finally all agree upon.
11  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 30, 2014, 08:08:03 PM
The first course of action was carried out we are now seeing the second; the point of which to branch was reached by volume of sales. Self mining is far from a new idea and the advantage to remain competitive as mining evolves remains with limiting expenses. One should also consider that the equipment, facilities and infrastructure will likely support future generations of ASICs when the need to upgrade arrives. This is far more cost competitive than the individual trying to compete with purchased systems.
12  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 30, 2014, 03:10:25 PM
I believe FC gave the market the proper opportunity to absorb the product before this change in direction. I also believe he made it quite clear that this was a possible outcome. My preference is to see a sustainable business model that reinvests in maintaining a sizeable percentage of the network as equipment sales margins will only diminish unless there is a profound rise in the price of BTC or something profoundly cracks the current ASIC cost/efficiency situation to be highly profitable for a short term. That term being only as long as it takes for the competition to step up or the manufacturer elects to use their own equipment.

I suspect shares may be making their way to steady hands with what appears to be a longer term strategy then some had believed. Holding ground with a percentage of the network in a position of profitability appears to be a favorable option when you are benefitting from working at the most competitive costs. AM has deep enough pockets to achieve this and is already in possession of ASICs to make it happen.
13  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 03, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
It's very simple. When you presale a device that has an anticipated hash rate you're required to forecast what you can get for it based on the where it stands in the network at the time of delivery. If you overestimate it's value when setting it's selling price you end up with pissed off customers who overpaid. If you take the more respectable route as Bitmain does selling when you can actually deliver then more network hashing equates to less profit for your product as you can't expect to get the same return from it. To discount a sizeable amount of hashing power is just foolish no matter if the flavor of that ASIC doesn't suit your pallet.
14  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 03, 2014, 03:56:17 AM
I somewhat enjoy observing competitors comments knowing that all that so called obsolete AM hashing power is effecting their future profitability. Even if FC damn near gives it away hashing power is hashing power and every ounce of it erodes the competition's projected profits and postures AM in the market for the future. Hoping a fair amount went into mining and franchising at this juncture. Gladly pay the hydro bill on it from profits until Gen4 hits the scene. Still more cost competitive then buying retail equipment and mining no matter who makes it IMHO. Really would like an update on where it all went when the product deployment dust settles and the overall strategic plan with Gen3 and 4. I get the sense there's a long term plan that has the two Gens interrelated but short term updates would be appreciated.
15  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 19, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Where are dividends  ? ? ?
..............

Right now around minimum of 36 millions $ are somewhere

You are assuming that all chips are sold which is simply wrong. It will take A LOT of time until all chips will sell.

Your assuming they didn't sell or go into mining or franchising. Both are assumptions to be taken as merely that. Along that same vien Spoondoolies future chip specifications and availability are merely assumptions until they physically exist.
16  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 19, 2014, 12:32:15 AM
Bitmains new 28nm chip announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461

Looks decent. Quite a bit less efficient than I expected but much sooner.
friedcat should seriously consider manufacturing the X24 boxes to counter bitmain.  he can have an order of X24s going within days at a factory...  waiting for other manufacturers only gives more time to AM competition to make and sell their wares

Having full control over pricing product will allow them to compete with Bitmain's "spot price" approach. Bitmain has been successful through rapidly adjusting price to market conditions by providing a total solution. Although ASIC sales may mean greater initial margins it may not result in the volume at which profitability is optimized. The problem is you immediately compete with the companies you supply and those appear to be significant.
17  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 18, 2014, 09:14:47 AM
Bitmains new 28nm chip announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461

Looks decent. Quite a bit less efficient than I expected but much sooner.

I perceive the chart they posted as very telling of how they operate through thier efforts of forecasting profitability. As I stated before system pricing is set as a function of offering just enough incentive to buy. Bitmain has continually carefully price adjusted to changing market conditions and watching the history of the S1's pricing gave insight into just how much margin there initially was and how inexpensively it could be manufactured. The take away is mining equipment is only as competitive and lucrative as the manufacturers make it and miners accept all risk of the network expanding more quickly than before. As more of these large mining operations come online that risk of more rapidly increasing becomes higher. I would prefer to be on the side of people that control this situation than out on my own at the mercy of the situation.
18  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 17, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
In case anyone missed it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464

Datatank mining operation by Allied Control using AM chips.

This reminds me of Sea Launch in that one benefit was being able to geographically situate the operation where there was greatest efficiency. In Sea Launch's case it was to position near the equator in order to increase payload by reducing fuel necessitated by the plane change for geostationary satellites positioning on the geo belt and in this case it's to allow mining to be transported to the lowest operating cost environment.

Let's hope this one isn't forced into bankruptcy protection. Grin
19  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 17, 2014, 11:36:51 AM
Feel free take a moment and review signature blocks to appreciate the contextual aspects of statements.
20  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 16, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
Your use of "home" in this statement infers an existing system. Please elaborate.

Remember that not everyone here is a native speaker. Hopefully you're right and there is actually something to elaborate on...


Understood but to go further and mention a quantity of 6 such units seems rather specific.  One may assume the "immersionist" has some insight into AM plans.

Six is the number of individual baths that Allied-Control fits into a single shipping container.  See here: http://www.allied-control.com/datatank

I feel like we've rehashed this a couple of times already.

Sure but then you get these reassurances "not have to worry" like you know something everyone else doesn't. So if you're just as in the dark as the rest of us don't you know enough to stfu or state what it is you know that we may not know?
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