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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Hyperthreading better, neutral, or worse for scrypt calculations? on: October 12, 2011, 01:31:34 AM
i7 920 on linux64, -march=native -O3 -msse4.2:  HT yields 1% more hash at a cost of about 3 degrees more per core.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Be ready when is launches! on: October 12, 2011, 01:30:30 AM
You can put the scrypt algorithm into cgminer yourself.  It's not hard.  cgminer already has support for multiple algorithms.  It'll be a gross hack, since it won't work with the beautiful code to auto-benchmark and pick the best CPU miner for your hardware, but it can be done almost as simply as overwriting one of the existing algorithm files with scrypt.c

I'm hoping to get enough time to do reasonable scrypt support in cgminer.  Not having much luck getting time to work in it lately, but it won't be hard.  CK's code is a joy to work with.


123  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are on our way to 3.5-3.7! on: October 11, 2011, 02:29:34 PM
God, this was all so obvious. All new folks here, I see. The old ones must have bailed.

Incorrect.   If it was new folks (providing fresh money) as is needed to grow the pyramid we wouldn't be trading at $4.
124  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 06:51:24 AM
Other data points: one guy on btce claimed 30khash/sec with a 9650 on windows.  I'm getting about 15k/sec with an i7 on linux compared to about 11k/sec for tenebrix.
125  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 06:45:26 AM
For those keeping score, roughly 279,000 solidcoins have been generated in the last few hours.  I'm so hoping an exchange will open before I head to bed. =)


Actually its less than 150,000 and solidcoin24 is open for business now.

The difficulty 141 blockchain on squidnet is showing 9189 blocks (but going up fast).  It's what, 32 (31.48 is the coinotron post donation --edit) SC per block?  That gives us over 290k, up 11 grand from my last post.

As far as that exchange -- yeah, a whole 4 bitcoins are up for grabs.  Go to it, botnetters!
126  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 06:36:09 AM
For those keeping score, roughly 279,000 solidcoins have been generated in the last few hours.  I'm so hoping an exchange will open before I head to bed. =)
127  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 05:30:05 AM
And considering 95% of blocks on coinotron are invalid and 67.5% on mine-for are stale we're looking at what, 1000x as many people joining SC the very first minute it's out of the gate compared to tenebrix and 4000x as many for fairbrix?  So the first two hours we've got somewhere around 30,000 cpus boiling along on solidcoin?

I'm having a pretty hard time believing it myself.  Forked chain is a much simpler and easier to believe explanation.

Up to block 7739.  Looks like blocks per second is still accelerating.

128  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 05:18:47 AM
It could be worse.  mine-for.us is reporting 67.5% stales.  Holy crap.  I don't think a single pool is stable.  I don't know WHAT the problem is, but something is certainly up.

Looks like 2 hours into the thing we're all late adopters. =)
129  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 05:08:56 AM
Looking at coinotron it looks like they're getting 95% invalid blocks.  Something is def. up.
130  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 04:46:39 AM
Well, one thing's for sure.  This bad boy has more CPUs on it than the Tenebrix network, no denying it.  So, the question is -- did all the people who didn't accept tenebrix or litebrix stay up to jump on this minute 1, or is BCE telling the truth about 400 EC instances + other cluster?

Keep in mind he's pulled off 51% attacks in the past, and people are getting a bit burned out on the various scamcoin releases...

131  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 04:24:53 AM
Seriously?  You expect the US government to step in and defend a scheme tailor made to avoid taxation and regulation?  One a congressman has already spoken against as promoting illegal drug use?  In the interest of someone who is not a taxpayer or citizen?

That'd be like expecting the RIAA to ride to the defense of the original Napster.

I don't know the details of the EC2 use, do you?  I certainly wouldn't risk using work assets to play with internet funbux, but hey.
132  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 04:19:22 AM
Can't download the client from solidcoin.info or I'd fire it up in a VM to witness the miracle of decreasing block generation times as difficulty increases.  That's a pleasant anti-pyramid twist...
133  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 04:13:56 AM
2 blocks per second.....

The awesomeness of "CPU friendly" algorithms.  No reason this same thing can't/won't happen to every "CPU friendly" FailCoin.

Diff will solve this... Have you ever watched a new blockchain starting with low diff?

And then BE pulls his cluster off, leaving patsies to mine .01 coins per week for the next six years.  See: namecoin.  Oh, except now with the threat of him taking the biggest dump since the invention of Ex-Lax on people's bids at any moment.

Yeah, I can see that driving adoption pretty hard.


134  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 11, 2011, 04:07:43 AM
Kind of hard to break anti-hacking laws when you have been publicly invited by the author of the code to as he stated "do your best it is unbreakable" you may want to do some fact checking before spouting off and making a fool of yourself.
You may want to take some classes on how judicial systems work before spouting off and making a fool of yourself. And before you throw in jail someone who thinks what you're saying will hold up on court.

Who's got jurisdiction over this?  Australian courts?  United Nations?  Al Gore?  Court of public opinion? 
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alternate Cryptocurrencies Rewiew on: October 11, 2011, 03:59:16 AM
Everyothercoin:  Will likely mine, will trade for BTC, will sell BTC, don't believe it'll fly.

There's always a chance it will fly.  However, the certainty of free money trumps the snowball's chance in hell of becoming a *coin billionare, so I dump as people pump.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 11, 2011, 03:52:35 AM
And tenebrix rallies on the news!  Thanks for letting me take my final dump on you guys, appreciate it.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alternate Cryptocurrencies Rewiew on: October 10, 2011, 01:54:15 AM
So you perpetuated the scams and made some money. What, exactly, are we supposed to take from that?

Just throwing my personal experience out there.  Take from it what you will.

My take on it is: until something changes (alt chain overload? enough dumb people burned by the scam chains?) every chain popping up like a daisy is insanely profitable for the earliest adopters.

It's like bitcoin to date, but with time frame massively compressed.  For some chains 48 hours separated the "early adopters" from the "late adopters."  The alt chains are coming out ever more complete at launch (pools, exchanges launch day) and I wouldn't be surprised if highly profitable "early adopter" window keeps shrinking.


138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 09, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
Any exchanges lined up?  I'm on board until 3 AM GMT on Thursday.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Be ready when is launches! on: October 09, 2011, 05:54:36 PM
Hacking a bit on CK's cgminer to support the new algorithm.  Haven't quite decided how to manage the AMD vs generic versions of scrypt.c in a good way.  It gets worse since ICC produces the best scrypt.o for the i7 using the generic version, but binaries produced by the free-as-in-beer license of that compiler can't be distributed.  I should count my blessings, at least SolarisStudio and llvm produce utterly crap code compared to profile guided output of gcc and icc so I don't have to worry about that.

I'll have to re-read the license, but I may be able to distribute the assembly output of ICC.

But at any rate, with some luck I should have the AMD/Linux guys taken care of with a nice miner a couple of days after this goes live.  Even if they have to pick the version of scrypt.c they like by hand.


140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / More Solidcoin Bashing/Defense (split from Be Safe thread) on: October 09, 2011, 05:30:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Solidcoin 2.0 will be only minable by built-in miner (not a biggie since it is a CPU-chain, but still kinda sorta interesting property in terms of isolating it)

Initially that would be true, but I don't see how other miners can't be built that can successfully mine it separate from the client using similar algorithms and the common api's

Well, that's too early to tell, since all details are being shrouded in (IMHO pointless) mystery, but I know of no less than one way that makes "third party mining software" very very toilsome to implement

If only there were such things as decompilers that could take a bunch of assembly and emit something which could be computer translated to a different language.

Even if it's a sub-optimal translation any algorithm suitable for GPU would still be a massive win over running on a CPU.  If it's scrypt or scrypt-like, yeah, he's probably good.

Still, it's a bunch of work and not worth doing unless SC2.0 adoption is widespread with a large amount of money on the line.   Even now, tenebrix, the most widely adopted CPU currency only has $10,000 worth of BTC available for the taking.  We'll see what happens when there are 4 CPU-friendly currencies vying for that niche.
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