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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: November 27, 2013, 05:05:43 AM

Bitcoin/USD, last 3 months. Any questions?

Bitcoin is over. If you're not out, get out. The last ones to leave will be the worst off.

I've been saying for months that this was a speculative bubble, a pyramid scheme. I said that when bubbles pop, they pop all the way. There were replies like "troll" and "hater".  "The bitcoin's value will inevitably increase." (Bazil). "Regular use of Bitcoins will pick up pace, it's inevitable." (Goodlord666). There are still people writing comments like that.

I was right. You were wrong. Now suffer.

Wow, this guy seems to know a thing or two about investment! Did any of you listen to his advice? Or are you suffering because you didn't? Wink

IIRC, the guy let it slip that he did his buy-in at around $2.  Timed it almost perfectly.  Before that he was talking down the market (I always felt ineffectively) and right after that, he shut up for a long long time.  He woke up again to try to talk things down briefly after the early 2013 spike, but didn't stick around long.  His best work happened from mid to end of 2011.  God only knows how much he made if he bought at the late 2011 bottom rather than a series of double-downs as I did.

Lately he's been mostly trying to get people (including yours truly) to sue Mt. Gox for some reason.



Then I guess you hadn't followed him for long enough though.

He still tried to talk down the market after the bottom, check out his posts.

But then again, I take off my hat to you guys who just want to give everyone credit and say nothing but good things after you have sealed your win.

382  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-26 Wired Bitcoin...Its Fatal Flaw on: November 27, 2013, 04:32:05 AM
How thoroughly some Americans are spoiled and brainwashed by the credit card industry is beyond belief, they seem to be completely ignorant that there is a much superior method for customer protection, which Bitcoin fully supports and improves to a new level, and has been employed to process trillions of dollars of transaction in China by payment processors like Alipay, called escrowing.(shocking revelation!)

Escrowing provides equal protection for the seller and buyer, unlike chargeback, the favored system in the U.S, which unfairly protects the buyers only and allows a buyer to conveniently scam a merchant on the pretext that no good is received, because the fund is placed in the wallet of a third-party, and once there belows to neither the buyer nor the seller.

You may ask, how does the third party verify if the buyer is lying when he requests a refund? Dead and simple, all delivery companies have a auto-tracking system, which will update the escrower about the status of the package, once the buyer signs the package(which is required if he wants to accept it), the escrower will be immediately informed, there will be no way for you to lie.

I was shocked to find even Paypal doesn't support escrowing, cause the business model is beyond maturity.  It may sound crazy but I am convinced that had the U.S has proper escrowing payment and delivery industries, their unemployment problem would have been solved by now by a C2C platform like Taobao, which alone supports millions of online shops and creates 20 million jobs for China,(no kidding)

Chargeback is a dinosaur and should have long gone into the history, yet there is this journalist defending it like it's jewel in the crown.
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: November 27, 2013, 02:53:09 AM

Bitcoin/USD, last 3 months. Any questions?

Bitcoin is over. If you're not out, get out. The last ones to leave will be the worst off.

I've been saying for months that this was a speculative bubble, a pyramid scheme. I said that when bubbles pop, they pop all the way. There were replies like "troll" and "hater".  "The bitcoin's value will inevitably increase." (Bazil). "Regular use of Bitcoins will pick up pace, it's inevitable." (Goodlord666). There are still people writing comments like that.

I was right. You were wrong. Now suffer.

Lol.  Where is this super smart guy lately?

If you have been paying attention(which you shouldn't Wink), he is still happily trolling away like nothing had happened.
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: November 27, 2013, 02:40:37 AM

Bitcoin/USD, last 3 months. Any questions?

Bitcoin is over. If you're not out, get out. The last ones to leave will be the worst off.

I've been saying for months that this was a speculative bubble, a pyramid scheme. I said that when bubbles pop, they pop all the way. There were replies like "troll" and "hater".  "The bitcoin's value will inevitably increase." (Bazil). "Regular use of Bitcoins will pick up pace, it's inevitable." (Goodlord666). There are still people writing comments like that.

I was right. You were wrong. Now suffer.

Wow, this guy seems to know a thing or two about investment! Did any of you listen to his advice? Or are you suffering because you didn't? Wink
385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 27, 2013, 01:06:20 AM

i dont trust the govt.


Me neither. Before Bitcoin I had no way of acting on that however and I had no choice. Now I'm pretty well hedged with my Bitcoin holdings.

Then again, pretty soon I'm going to have to report my assets to the IRS. Paying tax isn't nice but okay. The worst part is that they know what I have. What if they pull on me what the US pulled on Gold owners in 1933?

Maybe just cash out a small portion and tell them it's all you have?
386  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why aren't transactions faster? on: November 26, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
Why this discussion is relevant:

Next week I'm giving a presentation and answering questions on Bitcoin to a group of CEOs, several of them Fortune 500, including the CEOs of two of the top five PoS system providers. Please feel free to tell me anything that's on your mind... (self.Bitcoin)

The submitter stated in a comment:

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Large retailers won't take the risk of 0-confirmation transactions, even small ones. It's just a non-starter. Part of the reason I'm there, however, is to fix that.

A 1 versus 10 minute wait for an internet purchase could be significant.

There is an alternative I think, you first check if the sender's address has unconfirmed transactions, then wait a few seconds for propagation time, then for small-time purchase you can just deliver the goods, as race attack would have been infeasible and only Finney attack would work.

Besides, for online purchase of physical goods, there is no need to worry about confirmation time, since you have evidence for double spending, you can always refuse to deliver.
387  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world on: November 26, 2013, 08:35:05 AM
Brainstorm: is there anyway to make fee payments anonymous as well? I figure that since on one hand some are concerned whether there will be enough unsuspected users to help them hiding the trail, otoh some are concerned about fees, it would be one stone for two birds if we can give some users the opportunity to have their fees paid by those willing, if they choose to do a Coinjoin transaction.
388  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why aren't transactions faster? on: November 25, 2013, 01:25:36 PM
If there is a limit on the rate of growth of the blockchain size, then I guess no matter what confirmation time you use it's going to be all the same?

Also, I doubt if shorter confirmation time block really has the merit of adjustable security-security here is something binary, you are either completely screwed or completely fine, one successful double-spend is enough to do much damage to people's confidence in Bitcoin, so we better stay on the conservative side.
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 25, 2013, 09:57:00 AM
So it's Monday and we are back with the joy of following after Mr.Gold for a scuba dive. Wink
390  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-24 Rischio Calcolato - The bitcoin envy on: November 25, 2013, 01:36:52 AM
Made me rethinking why Satoshi has to vanish, people would certainly hate him much more than they admire him had he remained in the public space.

Such hatred is pretty evident already in this forum, see how mnay have made baseless "premining" accusation against him.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jessica Irvine "Trust me" (But I don't have a clue what I am talking about) on: November 24, 2013, 08:11:51 AM
Of the last 5 years, miners have released bitcoins almost entirely according to the plan, other than certain periods of high fluctuation of hashpower, show me one government that was able to do that.

Yea, this I understand.  But is there a risk of someone getting a monopoly on the hash power, and then f'ing up bitcoin?  Or are there too many miners for this to happen?  I ask this more towards periods where normal people won't be able to mine for profit (it's happening now).

That might happen, and Satoshi made it clear in the beginning that it might happen. That's why it's a honest system, people don't try to make you believe everything is OK.

That being said, the exodus of small time miners may stop if the price gets high enough, at the current price miners get a revenue of 1/10 of that of Paypal each year, which still has large space to grow, a Paypal-scale revenue should enable millions of USB miners to make a healthy profit.
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jessica Irvine "Trust me" (But I don't have a clue what I am talking about) on: November 24, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
Of the last 5 years, miners have released bitcoins almost entirely according to the plan, other than certain periods of high fluctuation of hashpower, show me one government that was able to do that.
393  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-23 - NYTimes Blog - Study Suggests Link Between DPR and Satoshi on: November 24, 2013, 03:42:33 AM
We know at least Hal and Sirius were also involved in the January 2009, and they haven't shown us the originating address yet.
394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 24, 2013, 02:40:17 AM
It just occurs to me that divisibility is one of Bitcoin's great features as a investment, you can't normally buy fractional share on the stock market, or a fraction of an ounce of gold/silver, so when a bubble is forming small time investors have to avoid buying as they risk losing dearly in a market crash, but even when BTC price reaches $10000/BTC you can still buy 0.001 BTC and take advantage of the potential rally continuation, as the most you can lose is only $10, this would potentially make Bitcoin the first product to be investable, and investable rationally by everyone, even really deprived people.


Yes, the accessibility of Bitcoin is very important to its success. A few years ago I toyed with the idea of dividend-yielding investments and a few other things, but with the amount of money I was looking to invest (beans) the fees just wouldn't make it worth it. With bitcoin, it was much easier for me to start out investing teeny tiny amounts of money every week. Then, my tiny investment turned into gigantic amounts of money. Of course, later adopters won't see such a massive ROI, but they can still participate in its appreciation until it reaches a more stable adoption level, and after that, they can participate in sound money which is good for everyone. The barrier to entry is a powerful force as we see in socialist .gov-controlled markets i.e. here in the U.S.
The barrier to entry of bitcoin still involves at least a mobile device and internet, but it is much smaller than many markets currently in existence.

And the snowball will get bigger and bigger, until no one in the world is left uninvested, then people will make a shocking discovery......"I have this, everyone has this, why don't we use it as a currency?"

That's the plan. Wink
395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 23, 2013, 11:33:07 AM
It just occurs to me that divisibility is one of Bitcoin's great features as a investment, you can't normally buy fractional share on the stock market, or a fraction of an ounce of gold/silver, so when a bubble is forming small time investors have to avoid buying as they risk losing dearly in a market crash, but even when BTC price reaches $10000/BTC you can still buy 0.001 BTC and take advantage of the potential rally continuation, as the most you can lose is only $10, this would potentially make Bitcoin the first product to be investable, and investable rationally by everyone, even really deprived people.

... what you mean like real money?! ... like that normal people can actually work and save in without being ripped off and corralled into "pension schemes", high-yield debt-instruments, shock markets and etc before being eaten alive by Wall St. sharks?

God, what a concept.
 

PMs are real money, but they are like that nation under God, indivisible.
396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Standard transactionfees are getting high again? on: November 23, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
I got tired of people complaining about having to pay 8 cents min transaction fee........

True but what about micropayments which is an area that bitcoin can easily disrupt.
With 8cents / transaction that doesn't look to be the case anymore.

This is not a problem with a sraightforward solution, as it will bloat the blockchain, checkout casascius's probabilistic nanopayment and Mike Hearn's rapidly adjusted micropayment proposals if you are interested.
397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Standard transactionfees are getting high again? on: November 23, 2013, 10:53:42 AM
I got tired of people complaining about having to pay 8 cents min transaction fee........
398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 23, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
It just occurs to me that divisibility is one of Bitcoin's great features as a investment, you can't normally buy fractional share on the stock market, or a fraction of an ounce of gold/silver, so when a bubble is forming small time investors have to avoid buying as they risk losing dearly in a market crash, but even when BTC price reaches $10000/BTC you can still buy 0.001 BTC and take advantage of the potential rally continuation, as the most you can lose is only $10, this would potentially make Bitcoin the first product to be investable, and investable rationally by everyone, even really deprived people.
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 23, 2013, 10:15:51 AM
why you refer to price of gold as in oz? it might as well be in grams, kilos, tons. the price per weight value is irrelevant here. gold will always have value no matter how much 1btc is in relation to 1 oz.

Because that's the unit they use in the gold market.

Yes, gold will always have value, as copper, nickel, and many other metals, but we are talking about speculative value here.

400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The general population is insanely ignorant about Bitcoin - and here's proof. on: November 23, 2013, 08:12:45 AM
The general population is insanely ignorant about the current financial/banking system as well, but they just sheepishly follow the instructions given to them.
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