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1041  Economy / Scam Accusations / The Selling of Crycurex.com on: June 11, 2014, 04:57:53 PM
Disappointing as it is that I have to post in this part of the forum to warn of the user known as Crycurex-support. He is currently trying to sell Crycurex for 0.1BTC and based on the experiences of some of other BitCoinTalk forums; I suspect this to be yet another scam.

The Complaints and Ignorant Customer Service
Firstly; from the original [ANN] Thread set up for Crycurex we have:

Complaint
Quote from: ozzymax
Quote from: crycurex.com on January 24, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: httpb on January 24, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
I decided to test Crycurex by depositing small amount of CRN. I managed to make a trade and now I'm stuck at withdrawal with Status:waiting.

Are withdrawals still manual and if so, when can we expect for them to be semi or fully automatic so they can be processed faster?




Will be processed in 15 minutes, as we are still in beta, some features may take longer then ussuall ... dont worry everything is fine, without problems, we rather be little bit slower with 1 or more deposit/widthrawal, than beeing hacked Wink

I know crycurex is not best or 100 % working or 100 % smooth, but we are aproaching Mount Everest every day, we are closer and its because of you -clients, I aperchiate your deposits, your trades, your withdrawals, they help me test every feature on my website to became security stronghold and number one Wink

Yes I bet you appreciate our deposits, shame mine isn't in my balance. from 3 DAYS AGO. where do I open a support ticket as emails go un-answered

ID   Currency   Amount   Status   Other info
1631   COXE   0.00000000   waiting   19

or https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417981.msg4719854#msg4719854 which is Crycurex-support's answer to another complaint
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Quote from: GiantSlug on January 24, 2014, 09:21:12 PM
Here is my experience, so others know what happens with Crycurex:

Initially, all went well. Got a deposit wallet, traded some COYE, then withdrew BTC. However, the BTC withdrawals took almost an entire day (one longer) and when all was said an done, I somehow had a negative 0.0003 BTC balance. I still had almost 1mil COYE, and I couldn't trade it for BTC to take care of negative balance. I was locked up, and only thing I was able to do was withdraw my COYE. It took 2 days, but finally got them.

So, this exchange somehow lets balances go negative, does not list fees for all withdrawals / trades openly, and then has terrible customer service. I was trying to get assistance with this, and after a long period of no responses, would just get short, rude remarks about "deposit the negative balance to trade".
At one point, the Dev told me via skype:
[1/23/2014 12:47:50 PM] crycurex.com: ok
[1/23/2014 12:47:56 PM] crycurex.com: you dont need to depoist
[1/23/2014 12:48:02 PM] crycurex.com: but you are not able to trade

How professional is that? Saying fine, you don't have to, but you won't be able to do shit then. Learn some customer support and take care of your customers, thats where you profit. Unless you scam.


I was not going to put any more BTC into this exchange with all these issues. I said, let me trade my COYE for BTC, ill take care of the balance. Nope, just said deposit.


Now, with Cryptorush coming in, and Vox (i think) around the corner, this exchange is going to be terrible.

With the competition of the new exchanges, and the lackluster performance and support, etc, I feel Crycurex is not long for this world.

My personal opinion: Get all your funds out of there ASAP, stop depositing. I feel this exchange will disappear with coins when the Dev realizes he can't produce a decent exchange and

 compete. Just my opinion though.

FIrst of all Id like to inform you that GiantSlug is part of competitors exchange ....so keep in mind that.

Secondly what "negative balance means"

Short explanation: thre was some bug, due witch we had to reverse lot of trades. Negative balance means that ... trader x had to have profit of 1 btc for example, he booked this profit (1btc) and make a withdrawal of 1btc, but we noticed there was price error and real price was lower ... therefore he had to earn 0.5 btc instead of 1btc ... so we make a withdrawal of 1btc instead of 0.5 btc ... and his account is in negative balance now ...

those "negative accounts" are few ... 5 or 10 ...

On other hand, yes we dont have automatic deposits and withdrawals yet, this id due security reasons, as there should be lot of hidden bugs in our site, same as at any other sites. So it depends of each client if he wants to risk with brand new exchange who has automated payouts.

As I dont want to risk even penny of clients account, i wont switch to full-auto until I am 100 % sure my site is completely secured.

TO his personal opition: : D : D yes because he wants as much as possible clients for his exchange.

Right now traffic on crycurex is beeing handled much better then 20, 40 hours ago ... i welcome every potential customer.

Note the comments I have put in bold. A common theme of this individual was to accuse everyone of being a "Paid Hater" sent by another exchange - so we will come to where I found BitCoinTalk.org

I won't continue with all the quoting of the complaints like the one from atheistftwins

Crycurex's poor "customer service" and bad management led me directly to BitCoinTalk

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Quote from: darrenwgray on January 26, 2014, 04:02:52 PM
Although I was impressed when I was convinced from the CoinyeCoin IRC channel to try out Crycurex I am (not really) shocked to see that it is a bit of a fiddle.

Lets go for the basics:
* I was asked to sign up and agree to the terms and conditions of the website; when you go to the T&C page it comes back with a 404 page in what appears to be an Eastern European language - possibly Polish.
* I followed their activation key procedure and logged in and thought how reasonable it was for a beta.
* I clicked on their terms and conditions fairly basic blurb about how they are not responsible for cryptocurrencies who end up getting sued, etc, etc.

I then make a few very small transactions and get a very small BTC balance 0.00006xxx something - I then go to withdraw it (to test their withdrawal process - you need to have confidence in these places before you use them)

It got rejected. So I asked on their support IRC.


darren-w-gray  So... what is the minimum withdrawal rate for BTC then?
CC-Support-Lom  There aint minimum withdrawal, but notice withdrawal fees
Btc withdrawal fee = 1-2 %, minimum Btc withdrawal fee = 0.001
darren-w-gray  It does not say that at any point from log-in to actioning the withdrawal.
CC-Support-Lom  On forum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417981.0



Crycurex are obviously only expecting their customers to come from this thread; otherwise they might have thought about the basics (like information for those that they got direct from the CoinyeCoin IRC channel) who have never been to this forum before. You would think that they have some sort of information on their withdrawal page about what the minimums and fees are; but they have forgotten about the basics.

I hate to say it, but at the moment Crycurex is all about the back-end making money and nothing about the influx of first time users that CoinyeCoin's notoriety was meant to attract....


PS on the plus side BitCoinTalk has got a new user.... I never knew you existed until today!

Hello

to your "basics"

- For me Terms and conditions works fine, so please check if there is no problem with your connection, thank you
- Yes, crycurex do not take any responsibility for many of things, check terms and conditions of other exchanges, do you think they are responsible for anything ? I dont think so. They even have their whois hidden, why they need to hide thier whois ?

Yes your withdrawal has been rejected because fees would be greater than you account balance, but if you want I can process your withdrawal but you will receive 0.0000 btc ... it was my good will that I canceleed it.

Support member nick: CC-Support-Lom

I aperchiate Lom´s help very much he is only support member at the moment, as you should know I had "trojan horse" from cryptorush.in at my support team, I need to choose my support members carefullly now.

What he answered you was true and I would answer you the same. I am very happy he helps me with support and hope he will do same good work in future as he does now

CC-Support-Lom, Thanks, keep up the good work.


At the end:

I am sorry your experiences are not positive only, but as I said several times, my exchange is few days old, I do my best fixing all possible problems, I am here to help you, I am here to provide best servicies, I spent like 15-18 hours a day managing my website, and yes its true that my services are not 100 % optimal but keep try to understand my situation Wink

and just a few posts later;

Quote
Yes terms and conditions do not refer for fees, fees are only mentioned in first post of this thread, but I may add it to terms and conditions also, if you find it important.

I actually then started to get PM's from Crycurex:

I am from slovakia and looks like you dont know how it works here in slovakia ...  I will tell you

To have internet company you have to make xyz papers .... if you wont you will be fined with like 10 000 eur ... But thouse papers costs like 5000 euros

I do not have thouse papers ... I kindly ask you to remove that PM once again or I go offline immediately...asI wont risk 10 000 euros fine

Thank you for understanding Wink

Apparently trading illegally in Slovakia then?

The Lies

On January 26th - Crycurex will have fully automated deposits in 2 to 3 days - didn't happen
Sorry I lie, it happened a few months when they relaunched; removing all the markets due to low volume and going into mining rig rental. Now hang on.... back in January (only three months ago) they had 2500 clients?

More accusations of "Paid Haters"


Now just blatently accusing any complaints of being sent from Cryptorush and that they were not growing fast (I think 2500 clients in just 4 days is quite fast?)

and yet they continued to have trouble with automated deposits taking 9 days

Now I ask you.... with all this going on.... is Crycurex in anyway trust-worthy enough for anyone to buy his domain based on a "PM-auction" with bids that inflate in his "for sale thread" when I questioned the reliability of his "secret bidder" he PM'ed me

Look,

I really dont know what is your problem. You have 20 posts, 19 of them are about my exchange. Who are you ? Some paid hater ?

Btw: your post ... was deleted because you are starting to be asshole again. Where I lied ? What case are your reffering to ? I think you have some mental problems and I dont know why you still have to spam all my threads Cheesy


Here is screenshot of bid of 0.1 Btc .. I dont know why should I do fake highest bid Cheesy When I do "fake" highest bid and noone will overbid it what should I do ? Sell it to myself (as it would be fake bid) ? Cheesy

Man, if you are bored, please go bother someone else, and go spam elsewhere... if you want to discuss about crycurex, find discussion thread ... and do not spam my sell thread



Baring in mind that the only reason I registered on THIS FORUM in the first place was because of this scammer? Of course most of my posts will be complaints to Crycurex.


(saying that, I actually read a huge amount of the threads on here now)





1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: www.crycurex.com - exchange for sale on: June 09, 2014, 05:37:42 PM
I request that all bids be publicly made in this thread.  I bit the minimum amount over the "high bid" Smiley

Do you think that "anonymous" bids may be abused or something like that ?


Having dealt with Crycurex in the past.... Yes.
I was contemplating a bid when I saw the thread title. Then I read the contents and ... well lets just say my alarm bell rang off the mantelpiece.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptsy now offering shares in mining contracts. MN1. Question on: June 09, 2014, 05:29:04 PM
Is it me, or has the frequency that Cryptsy pay out their mining contract earnings become somewhat erratic?
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: May 04, 2014, 12:28:19 PM
Have you learnt from last time and put the Terms and Conditions for your mining contracts on your website rather than expecting people to know this forum exists?
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [Dodgy] [Avoid] Crycurex.com on: February 20, 2014, 06:29:42 PM
Yeah -

I have a bitcoin wallet with 0.00023784BTC in it,
an unused (or at least it is now) crycurex.com account with negligable balances in it,
and a CryptoRush account with 0.00103833BTC.

I have got accounts at BTC-e and Cryptsy on the back of starting to follow a twitter user called BTCWhale. I have never used them though as it costs 0.001BTC to move coins anywhere. I only got interested in BTC for an article on behalf of a media outlet in the UK.

Now, for the record I have been harping on about failures:
  • The owner thinks that everyone who visits his site has a knowledge of the BitCoin Forum for example - His terms and conditions (dated 20 January) do not talk about fees of either use of the site, transactions or withdrawals. Nor does it mention minimum withdrawal limits. I have pointed this out but the owner is doing a "Emu/Head in the sand" because he says that everyone should have a knowledge of the terms and conditions on the now locked thread here.

    Now if you are looking to increase demand for a product, do you insist on your customers being telepathic and knowing the Bitcoin Forum even exists?
  • The owner was hyping up that he had automated transactions ready to implement weeks ago on his Announcement thread when others were saying they might start testing it. They still have not happened; did it fall apart or was it never in place in the first place.
  • When complaints were raised in the Crycurex announce forum, rather than actually addressing them the owner closed them and started a new self-moderated thread

This is just a small number of a long list. I was actually prepared to help Crycurex to develop some basic and core elements to a website. In the end I got threats to cease and desist on this forums private messaging service because the user claimed that to run Crycurex in his home country was illegal as he did not have the appropriate licences. Slovakia does have some strange rules but they do have reasonable financial controls.

On January 28 he wrote:

Quote
I am from slovakia and looks like you dont know how it works here in slovakia ...  I will tell you

To have internet company you have to make xyz papers .... if you wont you will be fined with like 10 000 eur ... But thouse papers costs like 5000 euros

I do not have thouse papers ... I kindly ask you to remove that PM once again or I go offline immediately...asI wont risk 10 000 euros fine

Thank you for understanding
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [Dodgy] [Avoid] Crycurex.com on: February 18, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
I know.... like; what is really shady is that I was apparently a paid hater, yet my total holding is less than .01BTC anywhere
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / [Dodgy] [Avoid] Crycurex.com on: February 18, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Apparently I am not allowed to post on the Crycurex thread; probably because I ask some really interesting questions.

1: Why is it that the complaints on the Crycurex thread get deleted?
2: If I am a "paid hater" - how come I am still so poor?
3: When are you going to update the terms and conditions of registration? I pointed out 18 legal and moral errors about a month ago (the post was one you deleted)
4: How come I have to start a new thread to highlight flaws in Crycurex? (because of question 1)
5: Did you ever answer atheistftwins? (No.... not really)
6: You support channel on IRC never has any support staff in there.... do you have any support?
7:
Quote from: crycurex
I would kindly ask you remove your post, because it can cause me problems no because those 2 thiefs but because Slovakian legislative about running web services. Thank you for understanding
So in your country you were operating illegally.... interesting.

I could go on, but I got bored....
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: February 18, 2014, 06:16:53 PM
If you send him an e-mail then he can hide all the complaints.
PS - Why is there no volume of trading on Crycurex?
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][COYE] Coinye Coin - v3.0 ADDED BOUNTIES 50M & TWO NEW EXCHANGES on: February 01, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
I have found that I am still using the original wallet from coinyecoin.org and I have had no problems with either getting coins in or out of the wallet.

CoinyeCoin also have an IRC channel on freenode.net; so worth asking there.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Complaints About crycurex.com on: January 28, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Unfortunately, young Martin Gasner has taken action to lock the only free speaking thread that is in place about the dodgy website crycurex.com. The new thread is moderated by himself, therefore all complaints go unanswered; pretty much like the complaints that are posted in the original thread he managed to get locked.

Feel free to post them in this thread instead... if you like.
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 28, 2014, 08:21:56 PM
and now he tells me that by trading in his country he is risking a 10,000Euro fine as he is not properly registered....

Reputable Currency Exchange?
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 28, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
I disagree. I am telling your critics who are saying you have taken their currency that they have the option of reporting you to the police.

Me giving legal advice does not harm your reputation. Just like me trying to give you basic advice about how to professionally conduct your website in accordance with the contract law of many of the countries that you are conducting business with was similarly responded with accusations of trying to harm you business.

I won't bother replying to your begging PM as I have just done so in the few sentences above.

PS I doubt there is any Slovakian Legislation about a LLC "running web services"
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 28, 2014, 07:36:25 PM
At the end of the day the complaints that have been going on for pages are evidence that crycurex.com is a enough of a dodgy site to warrant you all taking your complaints further.


Registrant City: Zilina
Registrant State/Province: None
Registrant Postal Code: 01001
Registrant Country: SK


There is the part of the websites owners that is really nice to have, because if you have a word with the friendly municipal police about a theft of currency by one of it's residents. They are so good they even provide an e-mail address:

Municipal Police Žilina
Hollého 11, 010 01 Žilina
Tel.: +421 (0)41 562 11 66, 159, 112
E-mail: operacne@mpza.sk
Web: www.mpza.sk

Although I think you might need to use something more than Google Translate to discuss such a delicate matter. I am no expert on Slovakian law, but if enough complaints come in then the police are bound to invite an explanation from young Martin.... because if Slovakian police are like UK police, they don't like their coffee and donuts being interrupted.
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 26, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
It was meant that as I am at beta testing I do not edit terms and conditions as I would edit them 4 times a day .... therefore I mentioned here in thread that "temporary" users should check even Terms and even 1st and 2nd post of this thread ...

You are obviously having great difficulty in understanding this.

* Not all your users joining crycurex from this thread
* Not all your crycurex users are aware of this thread

YOUR website was heavily advertised on both CoinyeCoin.org and on the CoinyeCoin IRC channel - even coinyecoin users are not mind-readers enough to know that you publish your terms on here and NOT ON YOUR WEBSITE.

Like I said, it proves you have plenty of back-end experience but zero thought for your customers.
PS: You are a business now, start thinking a bit professionally while you might still have a bit of reputation.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 26, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
Hang on... are you actually asking me if I consider publishing fees and limits for withdrawals important?

I reckon you would make a great banker: "Yes sir, you can deposit this large cash deposit into a savings account; but I won't tell you if you are ever allowed to withdraw it or how much of a charge I will make for withdrawing it....."

Now you tell me. If you went to a bureau de change to make a foreign currency transaction, would you like to know what fee they will charge? This one last alone is enough to warn anyone about how little you know beyond coding an exchange website.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 26, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Thank you for your reply.

- I must surely correct you though that when you register (and accept the terms and conditions on registration) the link from T&C's goes to the URL /en/terms-and-conditions/29/ which then brings up a 404 Page. which states:

Quote
Chyba 404: Požadovaná stránka nebola nájdená.

- I checked the terms and conditions on your Terms and Conditions page (the one you can only see after you log in) which has NO REFERENCE to withdrawal limits or fees - yes I have just checked your /info/terms/ page and there is still no reference. When you are withdrawing any crypto-currency on your exchange it would be perfectly simple to have a note on there stating what the minimums and fees are (just like your big red letters about only depositing once into a wallet).

If you are relying on terms and conditions published on this forum, you should be linking the terms and conditions button to the first post of this forum



As for "some trojan horse" I do not get into the internal affairs of whatever fight you and cryptorush are into at the moment; so no, I did not know anything until I read about it on their IRC after mentioning how poorly managed Crycurex seems to be. If it is too ladies having naked mud-wrestling on a live stream; I might become interested. Likewise I do not have a problem with Lom, he is your staff member so if he makes a mistake it's your fault.



At the end:
I still have nothing positive to report yet.


1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] Crycurex.com exchange on: January 26, 2014, 04:02:52 PM
Although I was impressed when I was convinced from the CoinyeCoin IRC channel to try out Crycurex I am (not really) shocked to see that it is a bit of a fiddle.

Lets go for the basics:
* I was asked to sign up and agree to the terms and conditions of the website; when you go to the T&C page it comes back with a 404 page in what appears to be an Eastern European language - possibly Polish.
* I followed their activation key procedure and logged in and thought how reasonable it was for a beta.
* I clicked on their terms and conditions fairly basic blurb about how they are not responsible for cryptocurrencies who end up getting sued, etc, etc.

I then make a few very small transactions and get a very small BTC balance 0.00006xxx something - I then go to withdraw it (to test their withdrawal process - you need to have confidence in these places before you use them)

It got rejected. So I asked on their support IRC.


darren-w-gray  So... what is the minimum withdrawal rate for BTC then?
CC-Support-Lom  There aint minimum withdrawal, but notice withdrawal fees
Btc withdrawal fee = 1-2 %, minimum Btc withdrawal fee = 0.001
darren-w-gray  It does not say that at any point from log-in to actioning the withdrawal.
CC-Support-Lom  On forum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417981.0


Crycurex are obviously only expecting their customers to come from this thread; otherwise they might have thought about the basics (like information for those that they got direct from the CoinyeCoin IRC channel) who have never been to this forum before. You would think that they have some sort of information on their withdrawal page about what the minimums and fees are; but they have forgotten about the basics.

I hate to say it, but at the moment Crycurex is all about the back-end making money and nothing about the influx of first time users that CoinyeCoin's notoriety was meant to attract....


PS on the plus side BitCoinTalk has got a new user.... I never knew you existed until today!
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