Milan won too, so after the 1st turn, only Lazio and Roma lost some points among the big teams.
Inter will have an easy calendar at the start, I think they will can lead with a good advantage after 8 turns, but after they will start losing points.
Well, Roma at least got one point from the first match. But Lazio lost the first match and I don’t think that match should really have been a loss for them. But that does not mean that performance from Roma was good. They will have to improve as well. Napoli is showing good confidence so far. In the start has been good. Let’s see if the new coach can actually continue bringing in good results. Impressive performance from Juventus as well. I actually see Juventus as a definite contender for the title this season. But it is definitely the very start of the season. And let’s not think too much about only one match. |
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Yeah, for me it is better to keep it to yourself that you are a gambler because most of the time people around you still has that stigma that people who gamble always end up being addicted or being bankrupt that's why it is good that you keep it to yourself if you knew that it is the kind of behavior of the people around you but then like you said it is good that you can share stories bout sports and some strats.
It’s much better to keep your activities to yourself. People are open to mostly criticism and condemnation from the society when they tend to always publicize their everyday lives. I think there are people who would only mostly have negative and sometimes hurtful inputs so it’s better not to give them anything to talk about. A lot of people are hypocritical and are equally intent on shamelessly putting forth their shitty opinions on how/what someone else should do and behave. Maybe it is not “hurtful input” from people around you. Maybe it is just so people do not want you to lose a huge amount of money by gambling it away. Additionally, there exists the possibility that you may unknowingly develop a compulsive gambling habit. You just probably don’t know it yet. If there is a certain type of people that gamble and still don’t do it as an addiction, it is probably the rich people. they are the ones who learned their lesson quickly and that’s how they became rich. But the people who are not so rich, do not understand that it is not a good idea to gamble with your hard earned money. Because there is a big chance that he will end up losing that money. No gambling house or casinos are made so that people go there and win money. Those are made so that people go there and spend their time, in the end, the house always wins. |
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I think in this situation DCA is best for investors. Do not sold Your Coin just now. We saw Bitcoin price still decreasing, Now Bitcoin price is Near about $26k. I think it will more dump. So my advice we have to buy in every dump. It is better strategy for crypto investment. Cryptocurrency market is always unpredictable it could pump anytime. So DCA is best strategy for every investors. My analysis telling ot could be come $23k again and from there Bitcoin price will up again and first quarter of 2024 Bitcoin price will tough ATH and end of the 2024 Bitcoin price will hit $100. So i think never anyone should sold his Bitcoin now. Wait for next Bull session.
While I don't know if bitcoin will go up or continue to fall in the coming days, I don't trust your analysis as I don't see technical analysis working well for bitcoin. with what happened in the past few days, it broke everyone's analysis, no one made an accurate prediction with what happened. But I totally agree with your DCA strategy, let's always buy at every dump. it is the best solution for an unpredictable market like bitcoin. But the confusing thing is that many people do not want to use it, and they are always looking for the lowest price to buy while we all know it is impossible to know where is the bottom and where is the top of bitcoin. |
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The good news is that when the dump occurred, the SEC considered the Ethereum Future ETF so that when the dump occurred, the price was stuck down and rose 1.2%, which was still thinking about it after yesterday's dump. I can only smile when I see this.
Right, Yesterday, was a great surprise suddenly a storm came. Yes, now it's a little better, BTC $ 26,116 and no more strange speculation in the next 2 days.
This is not surprising news really. They already approved the Bitcoin etf which is based on CME futures. And there is CME futures for ether already traded. It’s been live for a few years. So by approving an ether etf is not really much of a surprise. Now if they approved a ether spot etf then it’s big news. However these etfs are just based off the open interest of the future market. When one buys a Bitcoin it’s more of like a synthetic bitcoin and not based off the actual blockchain. Yes and I think the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) seems to be ready to change their outlook on the crypto world. While the SEC will probably approve a number of applications for Ether-based ETF futures concurrently and the latest news from Europe, if I'm not mistaken the Jacobi FT Wishere Bitcoin ETF has been approved which ETF will trade under the ticker "bcoin", and will be listed on the Euronext Amsterdam stock Exchange and supervised by the GFSC implementation. The SEC has filed a complaint against XRP in court after losing a two-year battle with XRP. they have not accepted that failure yet and it shows that they do not want to let go of the market and they will continue to find ways to attack the market if given the opportunity. I don't know why they accept ethereum ETF but they keep rejecting bitcoin ETF. but that's not enough to prove that they want to be more market-friendly. I think they are plotting bigger after the recent setbacks. |
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Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else? when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good? you are confusing addiction with passion.
I don't think selling all of your assets and invest in Bitcoin is torturing yourself, Bitcoin is a currency, similar like you has a lot fiat in banks. In the current modern era, I always hear about work life balance where you're working from nine to five for five days, get paid well and having fun with your wage. But I don't feel happy only work for 5 days to earn a money that will not able to make me become rich, so I choose to use my free time to get a side job. Maybe some people will say it's workaholic and it's not good, but I'm more happy with my current situation, that mean you can't always think people are same like you. Are you using bitcoin for your daily expenses? Or are you still using fiat, so how can you call bitcoin a currency? tell me, other than bitcoin, is there any other highly volatile currency that can lose 10% in 1 hour like what happened in the last few days? Please let me know. when you use bitcoin to pay your daily bills, and you have completely eliminated fiat from your life, I will believe bitcoin is currency. And do you see me complaining about taking more jobs to get rich? what I am trying to say is that I want to distinguish between addiction and passion because many people are still thinking that addiction is good. if addiction is good, why is it always associated with social evils when we have the word "passion" to describe positive behaviors? |
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But even though they won the match, this was not a good performance shown by Inter MIlan, in terms of play the Inter Milan team could not control it very well and even Ballposition in this match was more controlled by the visiting team (Monza) and many player rotations were carried out by the Inter Milan team in the second half, but their performance was not good enough, this victory was inseparable because the quality of the Monza team was far below Inter milan, so I think it is very reasonable.
And also their new player, Marcus Thuram, who really disappointed in this match.
I think ball possession is not very important because in this game we saw Inter Milan playing too ambitious to score a lot of goals and they did quite well because they were able to make 22 shots and 3 of them were on target. I also didn't get to watch this game, but I think that Inter Milan, who lost Lukaku and Dzeko, didn't have a bad enough impact on their performance on the front lines because Martinez was able to perform well by buying up 2 goals in this match. Besides that, Ac monza is also not a team that is quite superior in this match because the opponent they are facing is a strong team in Serie A. So in a few hours we will see the match between Udinese vs Juventus. I think this match is difficult to predict because Udinese, who are playing in front of the supporters, will try to get 3 points in this match. Whereas juventus they lost Di maria and several other important players in their squad depth in this transfer window. So I will predict Juventus will find it difficult to win in this match. I mean the performance from Inter was decent in this match. Nothing unbelievable. But the performance from Lautaro Martínez was good. He was able to score a brace. But to be honest he got really easy balls and he put them into the net quite easily in the end. But the first two goals and the second one were just tap ins. There was no way a skillful striker like him was going to miss out on those chances. Not 100% control over the match from Inter. But at the start of the season, this will do. The match between Juventus and Udinese is going to start in two hours from now. And I will say that Juventus is going to win the match because they are very determined to prove that they are a good team. And they are also determined to prove that they deserve better than what happened with them in the last season. I think this match should end with Juventus win. But it is a 70-30 for me in favour of Juventus. |
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Marcos Alonso is already 32 years old. He is going to perform worse as days goes on. But I thought Barcelona could still use him because he is honestly not that bad. And when I remember that Barcelona does not have much money, I wonder if selling him is actually going to be a good idea for Barcelona. If they are thinking about saving money, I think it is good because they will be spending less money as salary. They will also have some money which will help them to get out of the huge amount of debt that they have. But if they are thinking about selling the player and getting on with that money, I suggest they keep him. |
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I don't perceive obsession and addiction as identical. As you mentioned, not all addictions or obsessions are inherently negative. Take, for instance, an addiction to assisting others—it's undoubtedly positive, and you should persist. Conversely, being addicted to drugs is detrimental. Similar to this, being addicted to Bitcoin isn't harmful, but gambling can be. Occasionally, even if not actively trading, I find myself checking Bitcoin's price multiple times daily. This sort of addiction actually benefits me, aiding in decision-making.
Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else? when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good? you are confusing addiction with passion. |
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Your attitude to this world is interesting but a little strange for me. After earning the first thousand dollars on cryptocurrencies, I felt euphoric, but I didn't think that I would live forever and the like. No one will live forever, no matter how much money he has, even billionaires will die when death comes for them, and this will not change. You have a positive view of bitcoin and that's right. Nevertheless, I prefer to share my knowledge about bitcoin via the Internet, but not in real life, since my colleagues will then bother me with questions.
OP didn't mention anything about living forever or their neighbors living forever, but he said that the neighbors started believing that Bitcoin will live forever. However, I don't even think that Bitcoin will live forever because everything has a certain lifespan, and that lifespan ends when it has to and no one can stop that from happening. We haven't seen the future nor we can, so we can't really be sure of what will happen in the distant future with the world and everything in it. There is basically even no guarantee for the world to live forever, something can happen to the earth, and the whole human race can die. So, the thing is, Bitcoin is replaceable, not for now, but there can always be something much better than it in the future and then it will be abandoned by everyone. Even the planet we live on has a lifespan, don't exaggerate that bitcoin will last forever. moreover, bitcoin is just a result of the evolution of technology and the technology is still evolving. So I also believe that in the future, something better than bitcoin will come out and replace it, that's inevitable. but importantly, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, at least not in our generation. we should enjoy life with bitcoin without worrying too much about the distant future. Bitcoin has the potential and is still being viewed as a valuable asset in the future, so focus on accumulating as much as possible before its price skyrockets. |
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The answer to a debate that is constantly discussed on social media accounts and news outlets may open doors to different answers for everyone. So, Why Bitcoin Instead of Gold for you?
If this topic has been discussed before, I would appreciate it if you could enlighten me.
If you can hold both, the better. There is no need for debating, but one of the reasons why people choose Bitcoin instead of gold is that they know. I mean, you are truly anonymous, and you can bring it anywhere you go, unlike having gold bars that you can't bring because they are too heavy. Also, one of the reasons is that the volatility of Bitcoin is unlike gold, which had a stable upward price, whereas Bitcoin will jump high as fast as overnight and also go down abruptly, which is what risk-taking people really want. Yes, holding both seems to be the fair thing. The anonymity is a great feature that gives the secure feeling. Not many prefer this, most of them choose bitcoin over gold for its accessibility. However the anonymity feature is much used by people who are into gambling and related stuffs. Apart from this, to overcome cross border transaction the anonymity feature helps and that are used by very small percentage of people. These days even the anonymity is shattered with the requirement of KYC from gambling and exchange platforms. The ultimate for which bitcoin preferred is the growth on the investment. I disagree with you saying that bitcoin's anonymity feature is being used mainly by gambling enthusiasts. there are many ordinary users who are fed up with government control and are also using bitcoin to get rid of that control. But I agree with you that most people choose bitcoin because of its strong growth rate and not because it is decentralized or gives them privacy. that's why we see that the number of investors using centralized exchanges remains high even though centralized exchanges are disrupting bitcoin's decentralization. |
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Xavi Hernandez grew up as a Barcelona player and understands the football philosophy of the Catalan club. He knows the formation that best works for them as a team and knows the best way to achieve it. These are the things that I think has helped the former Spanish international in achieving the great results he's gotten since he took over to the managerial position of the club.
From what I've seen so far, Xavi Hernandez isn't slowing down in his tactical works at Barcelona until the Catalan club finally lifts the UEFA Champions League title.
He could just try to bring that 2009-2010 barcelona team back to glory now that he is the manager there. Only thing he needs to take care of right now is getting to the title, as long as he keeps getting the title most of the time, that means he is going to be fine. I think it is going to be something that will be tough because real could win the title a lot more in the near future with the team they built. Barcelona needs to find a squad that works well together, you can't just come up with xavi, iniesta, messi type of players right away, it is not going to work that way and will be tough to find one of them let all three but at least they know the blueprint and they need some players to do good enough to win. First of all making that type of team is going to be really hard considering the fact that Barcelona is going through a huge financial problem right now. I agree that it is just not going to happen right away. The coach will need to be given more time. Probably he will be able to find a way to manage the funds properly and bring in good players to the team. I think Xavi is also getting experienced. Slowly, but surely he is going to improve the situation of Barcelona. How long is it going to take? I don’t know. And I think even Xavi Hernández knows that. But even with the resources that he has in his hand right now, he is definitely showing good performance for it. Barcelona needs a team that is going to work well together. It does feel like that, the chemistry in Barcelona squad is still missing. |
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A goal and an assist on Harry Kane's German Bundesliga debut was a good way for the English national team skipper to announce his presence in the league. Regarded as the the player who's finally gonna fill in Robert Lewandowski's boots over a year on from the prolific Poland strikers transfer to Barcelona, Kane expertly delivered a performance to match that belief.
With the kind of quality that comes with the signing Harry Kane, Bayern Munich is definitely gonna be huge threat to not just the rest of the German Bundesliga clubs but to the entire European football.
I think Bayern will be on a par with Real Madrid and City to claim the title in the Champions League. Real Madrid still hasn't got Mbappe, City have lost the KDB so all three teams look equal. If Tuchel does not escalate the conflict with Kimmich and the atmosphere in the team is normal, then Bayern will have a great season ahead (it is a pity that they will not be in the same group with Barcelona, I would like to see the continuation of this series). This performance from Bayern Munich does show that they are capable of performing well. And obviously it was good performance from Harry Kane. I can say that even though they did not start very well, they did start pretty good. I think the coach is starting to figure out what is the best tactics and combinations for the team to go ahead with. But it is still very early into the season. Bayern Munich will have to be consistent. Probably finally Harry Kane is going to lift the trophy of Bundesliga. And i hope that he does. That is the one thing that he has been looking for, for a long time. |
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The world's moving towards decentralized systems. While you're preoccupied with $69k or $100k milestones, many are looking at how Bitcoin reshapes societies, governments, and economies. But go ahead, jump ship, and leave the revolution to those who truly get it.
You mean you don't care about profit, and you are investing in bitcoin because you support bitcoin revolution to create a decentralized system? Is that real? because honestly, I haven't seen anyone invest in bitcoin for the sake of this revolution and ignore profits. would you be willing to buy bitcoin for $69k and use it as a currency to spread the popularity of bitcoin even if it's only worth $30k? if you can do that, then I believe you are really participating in the bitcoin revolution, not money. you are probably the only person I know who invests in bitcoin for the decentralized revolution, not for the money. |
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Wrong again. Government can print money and you are willing to sell your bitcoin for that money.
In theory they could buy as much bitcoin as there's on exchanges.
If they US could send 75 billion dollars to Ukraine, they could spend the same on bitcoin if they really wanted to.
What would happen if other governments also tried to get it at the same time?
Which is why long term holding is so important, not only as a way to profit from the market but as a way to limit the bitcoin governments can get by printing more money, otherwise at some point on the future governments could become the largest holders of bitcoin and then they could begin to manipulate it, like creating their own coin backed by bitcoin and forcing people to use it, using a tactic similar to what they used to deceive people to let go of their gold. I used to think about this too, if the government really wants to control bitcoins, they can print money and buy all bitcoins because people are investing in bitcoins to make money, they will be willing to sell their bitcoins if the government pays a higher price. You're right, long holding is really an important thing but I don't think everyone will do that. we can also see most people are planning to sell their bitcoin when it hits $100k, no one wants to hold long term for bitcoin future. all for their own benefit, but I hope this won't happen. |
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So I am no longer reading those blogs or social media that is promoting this this fear that will make me dump my small holding and abandon my dream. My focus is to own one Bitcoin.
Good decision. Because if you're going to read those news, posts, tweets, and articles that only deliver negativity to you. That is for sure that you'll be affected by those and nothing good is going to bring that to you. Much better to cut your ties with those and let the news pass over and over again because no matter how they are, the time is going to change it and it will become positive soon. It is the secret in surviving this market and that's all you need to know while being focused on your goal on owning 1 Bitcoin soon. But if you are an absolute believer in bitcoin then a thousand more negative news can't affect you, let alone this little news. on the contrary, I love to watch the news every day and I always take advantage of that to find ways to improve my portfolio for the better. whenever the market is flooded with negative news, I realize that the time to buy cheap bitcoin has come and I will arrange my money to wait for the right time to buy. Negative news is not as scary as many people think if you already have enough faith in bitcoin. |
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We can't be sure of the next bull run. Right now the market have crashed. This is completely expected and we can expect this to continue for some time period before making a bounce in the market. For now the discussion will get started, what was the reason behind the crash of the market. For now Elon Musk owned SpaceX selling a huge part of bitcoin holding is termed to be the reason. Lets see what all the other news getting added in connection with the drop in the price of bitcoin. For all who have been waiting for buying could concentrate on the market to make an entry at the right time.
The market has crashed? What market are you talking about? Bitcoin? Or Evergrande's stock market? Because one just lost 4-5% and the other one has gone to zero so I guess, or better, I hope, you are talking about Evergrande, that has nothing to do with bitcoin nor the halving. Or, if you are actually talking about bitcoin then you are either trolling or fudding because no one would ever say that bitcoin, in this moment, has crashed. He was wrong to use the word "crash" for what was happening with bitcoin. but I think he means that the market is being heavily dumped as bitcoin is down more than 10%, and all altcoins are also down 10%-15% in a short time. And the dumped market is really a surprise as we don't have any remarkable information that caused it and even the collapse of Evergrande was not the cause. I also tried looking for some news about the Spacex bitcoin sale or the Evergrande demise, but I didn't find any connection to the market being dumped. |
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Short-term thinking is one of the wrong ways of accumulation to get rich quickly within the market has many new investors only thinking short term. And while the possibility of earning massive on a crypto investment, there is also the possibility of losing all funds to a bad investment move. Having a long-term investment plan/ mindset would help you choose your crypto investment more carefully and concentrate on picking high-quality projects with a long track record. Trying to get rich in just 90 days is a fast way of going broke but thinking about crypto investing as a multiyear process will help you build a more thoughtful crypto portfolio.
When you think about investing in cryptocurency with a multiyear timeframe, it'll help you with your choices of investment as you're not look for quick profits, but coins like Bitcoin, Ethereum and other quality project will be included in your portfolio and you'll be patience holding. You'll also not be rushing to invest as you'll take your time to study the market very well before investing and you won't be investing by buying all the coins immediately but instead you'll be accumulating slowly until you have reached your goals of investment into Bitcoin. Short term thinking can lead you to losses more than it can lead you to profits when investing because when thinking of quick profits you'll be attracted to coins that are for short term and they'll not last in the market and all investors mightn't have the opportunity to make profits. But we do know that not all does have the patience on holding for long term or time on which there would be those people who would really be preferring on seeing profits in a shorter time frame and this is the reason on why they would be definitely be engaging with some altcoins or even trying out to touch some meme coins for some possibility of quick profits and possibly that could earn tons of money in a short time but of course we do know that the risks is really that higher. Accumulation would really be requiring that kind of determination specially when you are holding but initially on which it is really that needing that proper planning in terms of the money that you should only gonna spend. Its true that there are people who are really just that impulsive or really that dont able to think up carefully in regards to this on which they are really doing such bad step or decision basing up on their accumulation. Some do even make use of the amounts which are for emergency funds which it is really that too much or something that really in excess. The temptation and attraction of earning faster or in a shorter period of time really drive people to invest in things like altcoins and meme coins. The attraction that fast-earning investments have brings people to forget about the risk that comes with it. We get too hyped over the idea of earning more profit in a short period of time that we forget about the possible negative outcomes the risk of it may cause. We forget that the greater the deal and benefit sounds the higher the risk it will cause. I think that's pretty normal to a person's nature which is to earn, so they would find other ways or what we called "alternative" just to earn extra money. So people are aware on the short term potential of altcoins, if there's a potential of course there's also a cons like in Bitcoin. If you are a good investor or trader you would study the coin first before investing due to some coins are made just to get rugpulled by using hyped. Imagine Bitcoin as a known coin for having a huge potential and benefits but we are still aware from it's disadvantages right? Same way in altcoin, you'll need to gather information first if you will put your money at stake. I've actually profited on this alt coins such as meme coins but it's just a quick flip that you won't be planning to hodl for that long. I also made quite a bit of money investing in altcoins and I used that profit to invest in bitcoin for the long term. if we have knowledge and method then investing in altcoin is very profitable but why do people hate it so much? aren't we here to make money? Why we focus only on bitcoin and ignore bigger opportunities? like we criticize those who only invest in gold and real estate and ignore the golden opportunity with bitcoin. but in the end, we are just like them, stubborn and stubborn to only invest in bitcoin and ignore the opportunity to make high profits from altcoins. |
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today i saw the btc market it went down 5% and now it is $26800 and i saw very scared people and many are selling their btc cheap but i will not miss this golden opportunity when people are panic selling so i will buy it. and I'm lucky to still have balance left on my exchange.
Are you also taking advantage of this opportunity, friend?
It's a shame that when Bitcoin dropped to the $25166 price area, I didn't check the market at that time. But I think the decline can still continue if it doesn't get strong support. But the current price can be said to be good enough for accumulation. And I'll probably start buying more from the area now. And more when a dip comes back. But to be honest, I don't know what news has definitely made the bitcoin price drop from 29 to 25 very quickly. Although I also heard about the news that SpaceX Elon is selling their bitcoins. But there seems to be no proof that the news is true. But seeing the decline which is indeed very fast, it can be ascertained that there are indeed those who sell large quantities in a short time on the market.If there were people who sold a large amount of bitcoin causing the price to plummet then we had news about that but so far, apart from news of Elon selling bitcoin we have no further news that caused the drop there. and we also know that the news that Elon sold bitcoin is incorrect, which proves that the market is being manipulated, nothing more, nothing less. but whatever caused the market to bleed it was a good thing because we all wanted to buy cheap bitcoin and it happened in the end, IMO. I also didn't have time to buy when the price dropped to $25k but today I enlisted to buy some bitcoins for myself for $26k4. |
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Opening match for week 2 between Nottingham Forest vs Sheffield United and this is their first meetings after they were got promote to Premier League and in the first match both teams has been lose from their opponents that Nottingham Forest lose from Arsenal and Sheffield United lose from Crystal Palace so both teams want to utilized this match to gets their first 3 points this season but during pre season matches whether it Nottingham Forest or Sheffield United had poor records so this match results could be unpredictable and i can see the bookie placed Nottingham Forest as the favourite with odds @1.86 but i am not sure this could be good option because at home Nottingham Forest too had a problem with their consistency even few weeks ago they lose with huge scores against France team Rennes 5-0
I think, Nottingham forest will use home advantage to defeat Sheffield united 2-1in this match which is my prediction, because they will not allow what happened in their pre-season match that made their opponent to defeated them not to happen in this premier league competition. Based on their starting in this match, I think the match will going to be a tough match but Nottingham forest will use second half to achieve the winning goal to defeat Sheffield united to achieve three points from the match. Since Sheffield united are still experiencing some challenge in the area of midfield, i think they will struggle for draw match 1-1 but Nottingham forest strikers will not allow such thing to happen in this match than to use die minutes to achieve victory. Both of the teams are not very strong. So it is actually hard to predict what the results are going to be of this match. But recently I will say that Nottingham Forest has shown quite good improvements. Finally, we cannot forget about the home-condition advantage. We all know that almost all the matches at the start of the season are pretty hard to predict. And when it comes to a match between low-level teams the prediction becomes a lot more harder to be honest. But I actually agree that in this match probably Nottingham forest is going to be the winner. There is a chance that this match will end in a draw. I think if it is a draw it is probably going to be 0-0. Because I don't think the striker of both the teams are actually very sharp at the start of the season. But if the deadlock is broken I think there is going to be a winner. |
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hey do anyone know a good and free news app (android) for bitcoin and other crypto?
Why don't you use social networks like x.com, reddit... where you can update news as quickly as possible instead of following general news websites. moreover, you should find yourself a few reliable sources to follow, do not follow too much will only waste your time and dilute the information. I used to struggle like you to find complete and fast sources of market news. but in the end, I found that by using x.com and Reddit social networks, I could almost get market news pretty fast. |
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