Anything out of the country, if you want to send me a prepaid label... I'll ship it. Got 2 CPU's.

I sold some things here using BTC for your review.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24962.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24938.0

Bought some better cards, shedding these used ones. Not very old (3-4 weeks).
Also have some spare power and mobos.

PM me if you want to pay with BTC instead of eBay.

http://shop.ebay.com/clint25n/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

PM'ing now. Didn't see your post, must have either been the heatwave or I've been watching too much news on Washington 

bump.

wow, what a pain in the butt it is to find someone to sell bitcoins outside of an exchange, lol.
setting up an account now and doing this the ol fashion way

Willing to use an escrow service. I know everyone hates paypal, but it's what I have.
Want to spend $250, and will pay current market price, so like 16.something bitcoins.

http://myworld.ebay.com/clint25n
good feedback score

have more credentials/referrals upon request

sending info guys... check pm

Ok, now selling for 2.8 BTC to unload these puppies.

First come, first serve!

*bump
13 left

Lot of 14 - PCIe Cables To Go 10" Internal Power Cables

Dual 4-pin Molex Power Connector to 6-pin PCIe video connector

Same items as sold here...
http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?201771_g10e

                             (FREE SHIPPING TO USA)
            ENTIRE LOT OF 14 - ONLY 3 BTC

Have 4 unused PCIe x16 to x16 extender cables.
Selling cheap; retails for $13.95 ea. ($55.80)

Selling lot of 4. Free shipping in US.
I will mail ASAP!!

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Interesting logic, since if it weren't for Jesus, bitcoin wouldn't exist. 

This could go on a long while, lol.. and I'm just waiting for a bitlord to shutdown this thread. Or perhaps people like to read debates such as these?
But I will say this.. Jesus was either a Liar, a Lunatic or Lord.
He claimed to be God. He either knew He wasn't and lied, thought He was and was a lunatic, or truly is and is Lord.

Let's say that far away, on an alien planet, beings enjoy killing babies for fun and entertainment. Now, is this considered evil everywhere in the universe, or just in your human mind? Objective morality means that it is evil everywhere, no matter where you are located or what species you are.
Killing babies for fun and entertainment is never right, even if humans (and their minds) don't exist.
Subjective morality says it's only wrong for you.

So answer then. Is killing babies for fun and entertainment only wrong for you, or is it wrong period.
As an atheist, you must say evil does not exist (as Richard Dawkins does).
How can you even trust that the random particles you are made up of allow you to give a truly logical answer?
Remember, the atheistic worldview makes you no more than a flesh machine that is merely reacting to the chemical reactions in your brain. There is no right and wrong, just random particles in a meaningless random universe. Logic, rationality and morals are only bound internally in your own human brain and therefore are a figment of your imagination.

I propose that logic and morality is objective, so they do not change whether you, or an entire community of people decide something is not evil (like the Nazi's).
Objective moral values exist, and they are imposed onto your conscience by God. I'd love to hear your theory on whether morals and logic is either subjective or objective and how it could be objective without a law giver.
Actually, I'm not into religion, just logic, reason, science and my belief in God. Religion can be a dangerous man-made system of control. Even Jesus ate with the outcast tax collectors and prostitutes, but He had a HUGE problem with the religious leaders and pharisees of that day.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites... you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness." - Jesus Christ
Jesus was not a fan of religion either.

Again, my whole point was that if morals are not subjective, then atheists cannot explain this. What could possibly be imposing a moral standard on humans? I think I gave an example of how moral subjectivism fails as a theory.

How did we even get on this subject. I thought we were supposed to be talking about bitcoins.

Slavery:
First let's keep in mind that slavery in the Bible was not always based on race like we have seen in the past couple of centuries. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts; doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves to have all their needs provided for by their masters. However, there has been, and always will be people kidnapped into slavery and forced into it based on race.

God allows many things to happen such as famine, murder, slavery, etc. While many nations treated their slaves very badly, the Bible gave many rights and privileges to slaves.  So, even though it isn't the best way to deal with people, because God has allowed man freedom, slavery then exists.  God instructed the Israelites to treat them properly.

So if man is going to permit slavery, then how are these rules immoral as you say?

The Bible acknowledged the slave's status as the property of the master (Ex. 21:23; Lev. 25:46).
The Bible restricted the master's power over the slave. Ex. 21:20).
The slave was a member of the master's household (Lev. 22:11).
The slave was required to rest on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10; Deut. 5:14).
The slave was required to participate in religious observances (Gen. 17:13; Exodus 12:44; Lev. 22:11).
The Bible prohibited extradition of slaves and granted them asylum (Deut. 23:16-17).
The servitude of a Hebrew debt-slave was limited to six years (Ex. 21:2; Deut. 15:12).
When a slave was freed, he was to receive gifts that enabled him to survive economically (Deut. 15:14). carm.org

How Women Should Behave:
Can you give me an example here relating to immorality?

Homosexuality:
Again, homosexuality is still considered immoral by most of the world.
How is this considered an example of immorality found within the Bible?

I agree that morality is known and we have common feelings about such things, as you mentioned, with rape. What I said is that atheists cannot account for objective morality. Objective morals are those that are based outside of yourself.  An atheistic worldview can only offer a subjective moral standard based on feelings, situation, experiences, culture, etc. Subjective morals change and can become self-contradictory.

Example: If Hitler had won the war, and he brainwashed the whole world to agree that gassing the Jews was morally good, wouldn't gassing Jews still be morally evil? The answer is obvious. Yes, gassing Jews would still be morally evil, even if the whole world agreed it wasn't. This contradicts and refutes moral subjectivism.
In atheism, morality is up for grabs. If society changes by, say, a nuclear meltdown... and the norm becomes robbery, is it then right if you are robbed of your food for you and your family? Even though the majority of society may rob for food, and may agree that the new right thing to do is "survival of the fittest to repopulate the earth with a strong people"... it is still wrong. It is wrong due to a moral standard outside of yourself.

Think about it. With atheism, there is no moral should and shouldn't. Why? Because when you remove God, you remove the standard by which objective morals truth is established. It is always wrong to rob a starving family of their food, even if your own family is starving. Even if society, your feelings, situation and experience say otherwise.


Guess I'm not following you here.

Just because a room containing a black hole, dark-matter and a sun have "net zero" energy, doesn't mean that room or its contents don't exist. It is still a room with a black hole, dark-matter and a sun (something). My bank account and check ledger may have a "net zero" balance by the end of the month, but this just means my debt canceled my income. Net zero is just a balance (theory). But energy and matter still exist, and so does money, and so does debt.

Dawkin's theories are very entertaining. You know he now claims that evil does not exist, since atheists cannot account for objective morality (without a moral law giver).