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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 13, 2017, 01:18:30 PM

Tårene rant og smilet var større enn det hadde vært på mange år.


Google Translate is your friend...

Norwegian: "The tears ranted and the smile was bigger than it had been for many years" ... not sure what it means, of course LOL
Maybe it means that the haterz and the bears are gnashing their teeth (tears ranted), and the hodlers and the believers and having their day in the sun (the smile was bigger).

 Grin Smart boy. Weed of unbearable strength made me unleash a norwegian speaking beast within myself  Grin I put jwh18 and mj in one pot and took that. U got it right, I mixed weak ass cush with jwh strain and got the beater of conscience™. It shuttered both my body and conscience and everything inbetween. Woke up today morning and found six hundred empty folders named truncated pentakis dodecahedron  Grin



Maybe more, Ill give it a check later. That beater crushed me hard, dragged my body left and right and everywhere and left in a superposition between two states of living, granting me a unique privilege to roll and flow through matter, in particular through a physical shell of mine.


Every touch to the oversold RSI on 1D chart resulted in a pump.

Forget about rsi, it broke out of the 3yo parabolic curve this week hence a sharp weekly candle with head red. Sure it means nothing since ta sucks balls big time but anyways.


As long as the rate of lost coins is greater than zero, Bitcoin's total supply will eventually be zero.


Since when inaccessible supply equals zero  Cheesy Oh yeah First someone comes and says fiat is poop and all since the btc value is essentially what gears the universe. In the middle of fucking bubble//   Cheesy Cheesy Next, yet another genius comes up and shoots the dumbest possible fallacy of all fallacies ever posted on this message board.

Back to tail emission, who on earth cares about it? Its a fifth grade formula after all. They wanted to make the mining reward autoadjust so that the quantity of newly minted coins would balance out the quantity of hypothetically lost coins, they did, who cares. U appear to be this much obsessed with lost keys, fine. I dont care about that shit at all. I dont even know what timeframe u are talking about. 10 years 100 years 1000 years billion years. In 20 years from now u will simply bind ur private key or whatever it will be substituted with by that time, to ur dna nuclear envelop and then u are free to lose ur keys or get hit by an aerobus or get killed by walking truncated pentakis dodecahedron. U are goner and ur keys are lost. What happens next is ur descendant goes through a dna paternity test and whoa retrieves the coins. Nobody of living humans has enough intellectual capacity to comprehend what will happen in 100 years so dont bother about it. The 0.5 percent figure is a joke of course, they put it out of their ass. Its not applicable for covering all possible and theoretically possible scenarios in which keys could be lost and found retrieved and lost again. But its not a problem. Its not good its not bad its alright. But when u talk about 100 years LOL ffs just shut up.

Enough Norwegian already  Roll Eyes

Tårene rant og smilet var større enn det hadde vært på mange år.

= Tears ran and the smile was bigger than it had been in many years.

Google translate is a dumb machine.
 
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 13, 2017, 11:51:51 AM
I remember hearing about a month ago monero had a bug in the software that allowed people to mint new coins, and that its a problem because it being anonymous you cant see how many coins there are to check


... That bug, had it been exploited (as it was in some other cryptonote-based coins but not Monero), would been visible on the blockchain....


Kindly expand on this - how would one be able to identify which coins were "minted" as opposed to legitimately mined on the blockchain?

Because they would have had invalid key images. It's something vaguely analogous to if the amount was -100 instead of 100 but the code had been missing a check for negative numbers. Once the check is added the bogus key images are immediately detected and rejected. Those coins that actually got exploited (BCN, XDN, some others) need to disable the check for older blocks to avoid rejecting them.

Monero was never exploited and doesn't need such an exception.


Hi Smooth, and thanks for your reply

So to be clear, does this mean that we know the bug was not exploited because the Monero blockchain rejects invalid key images, and any rejected key images would be visible on the blockchain if they existed?

23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 13, 2017, 06:09:32 AM
I remember hearing about a month ago monero had a bug in the software that allowed people to mint new coins, and that its a problem because it being anonymous you cant see how many coins there are to check


... That bug, had it been exploited (as it was in some other cryptonote-based coins but not Monero), would been visible on the blockchain....


Kindly expand on this - how would one be able to identify which coins were "minted" as opposed to legitimately mined on the blockchain?
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: XMR.TO - pay any Bitcoin address anonymously using Monero on: August 10, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Can you tell me why there is no Calculator? Because price is change every 10-30seconds so how i will know how much XMR are in BTC??
And tell me how much i will need to wait?

You can see the indicative price at any moment.
You can enter your desired BTC amount, and the website will tell you how many XMR you need to send (and also the exact price that you will get).

Conversion is instant for orders below 0.1 BTC. Above that you will wait 1-3 Monero confirmations depending on your amount, that is 2-6 minutes on average.


How is the indicative price calculated? It looks like there is some spread between it and the BTC/XMR rate on my exchange.

Edit - Would also like to know if you will convert til BTC or BCC (or both...) going forward?

Looks like a dead thread   Undecided

25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: August 10, 2017, 08:28:30 AM

These proposed "smart" implementations are nice and cool albeit geek stuff. However, it's pointless to have them if the primary use case (i.e. functioning as cash) is not allowed to gain a foothold first and foremost.

Yes, the idea was never for these suggested features to supersede nor be prioritized over the more fundamental features that you referred to in your post. The goal is to get some brainstorming going for additional features that can be added once the current dev roadmap goals are achieved.

Smart features could then follow thereafter...when Sumo will have achieved a relative degree of mass adoption.

I disagree, however, that smart features need to wait until a relative degree of mass adoption is achieved. I think cryptocurrencies are at a point where mass adoption will be easier to achieve if we can first convince the merchants to accept them, rather than try to convince users to buy with them. The latter of course would be preferrable, but it would take a long, long time. Mobile wallets and the other features you referred to, and which the dev's are working on right now, are extremely important for making use easier. But even if everyone wanted to pay using SUMO, it won't matter if the merchants don't trust that their coins will be safe in their wallet; they just won't accept any payments that way or, in a best case scenarion, they will accept payments but with a substantial additional fee applied on top of what they would regularly charge when using other, safer payment methods.

Ease-of-use features and safety features must go hand in hand in my opinion. We can convince thousands of people to use SUMO for payment, but it won't matter if no merchants feel confident enough to accept it. Convince 10 merchants to use sumo, on the other hand, and you automatically raise awareness of the coin and expose it to thousands or tens of thousands of potential buyers - at which point ease-of-use features would become critical if the users are to use the coin, so they must be ready.

Seriously? "Fake wallet/password"? What kind of cockamamie, spaced-out/space cadet concept is that? Have the top cryptos implemented such absurdity? Implementing an absurd feature that sounds cool for the sake of being cool and different does not really make it cool nor practical. If anything, I think you personally like to implement such a feature (if you can even call it that) in order to be able to skirt the law/buck the system ("plausible deniability"...) based on your argument above in favor of it.





 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Chill out dude. He was just throwing ideas. No need to be aggressive

My statement is a matter of fact and stating the obvious though in a rhetorical manner. Why is that aggressive? Or are you just getting defensive because I called out such absurdity? And why are you speaking for him? Are you his lawyer?

Absurd/silly ideas need to get shut down right off the bat (before it gets a foothold and drag on) to make room for sound and worthy ones. That said, please continue brainstorming. However, always keep in mind to not put the cart before the horse while in the process.






I would say that pretty well sums it up (a picture is worth a thousand words...)  Grin
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 09, 2017, 05:04:17 PM
Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.


The funny. really sad. thing is that most people in the US have no idea what is going on and think they live in the freest place on the earth. Sheeple morons.
and people around the world still buy into the whole notion of american dream. I think Jeffries said it best in this video.
https://youtu.be/xukGZnD-xDE?t=12m31s
I love both these guys!

The American Dream is not dead - it's just leaving Amerika. Each year more of us "moronic sheeple" wander off the plantation to make a new start in other parts of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNKKwek_rN4
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: August 08, 2017, 06:07:29 PM
Guys, over at the Sumokoin Telegram we're having a discussion about new potential safety and anonymity features for Sumokoin. These are suggestions made by the community - we do not speak for the developers. With this in mind, we'd like to hear what everyone else over here thinks about the following:

SOS transfer: The idea is to have a "fake" wallet password which, if you were to divulge it to someone and that person were to use the "fake" password to access your wallet, an SOS transfer would be triggered, automatically and instantly withdrawing all of your SUMO to a secondary wallet that only you know about. Alternatively, instead of having a "fake" password for this, there could be some sort of simple puzzle (like mouse-clicking on 3 or 4 small images in a certain order) that only the wallet owner knows how to solve. You would be required to solve the puzzle before or after accessing the wallet with your password. If the puzzle is not solved correctly, the SOS transfer is initiated and all SUMO are transferred to the secondary wallet. (This would help against some keylogging attempts.)

Embeded Escrow: The idea behind this is to avoid situations where trusted third-party payment escrow providers are tempted to steal the funds when a large transaction is involved, thereby reducing trust in the ecosystem and causing significant losses. With an Embeded Escrow feature, the escrow service provider would never be in control of the escrowed funds. The buyer/seller/escrow would initiate an Escrow Transaction, and a special Escrow Address would be created, after which the buyer would send the funds to the Escrow Address. The escrow provider would then receive a password, which can be used to do only one of two things: either release the funds from the Escrow Address to the seller, or return the funds to the buyer if the seller does not deliver the goods. The Escrow provider has no way of withdrawing the funds to his own address or using them any other way. Upon releasing the funds, the escrow provider receives his agreed-upon fee for his services.

Risk Management Feature: Large merchants have a lot to risk. If they lose access to their wallet or an unauthorized party gains access to it, their losses can be catastrophic. Some merchants might choose to control their risks by spreading out their balance across multiple Wallets so that if one is compromised, at least the remaining walltes should be OK. The Risk Management Feature would do exactly that: the merchant would create extra wallets, and whenever they receive a transfer to their main wallet, the transfer amount would be broken up into equal chunks, each of which is sent to one of the other wallts. For example: merchant creates 3 separate wallts in addition to their main wallet, making for 4 wallets in total. Merchant then activates the Risk Management Feature in their main wallet and and inputs the 3 wallet addresses in the settings. Now the merchant receives a transfer of, say, 100 SUMO, to his main wallet (the one with Risk Management enabled). The Risk Management system automatically divides the payment into four chunks of 25 SUMO each. One chunk remains in his primary wallet, the second chunk goes to the second wallet, third chunk to third wallet, and fourth chunk to fourth wallet.

Please let us know what you think, and please consider using the follwing Strawpoll to let us know which of the three features you find most interesting: http://www.strawpoll.me/13658077/r

And make sure to let us know if you have any other ideas - you can do it here or in Telegram. Thanks.

I don't do Telegram so I will offer my 2 cents worth of advice here -

SOS transfer:
Interesting idea! If you decide to do it I would recommend that this feature be optional, and disabled by default. Why? Two main reasons - 1. it increases administration complexity in an already steep learning curve for average users; 2. by increasing the complexity of the code you are increasing the attack surface for hackers.

Embeded Escrow:
This one is tricky because it does not make provision for possible collusion between the escrow provider and one or the other part. I think the best solution would be a 100% automated, but that would require some foolproof method to assure that ownership was actually transferred for the funds to be released (maybe something like online integration with shipping company tracking numbers or online title registration for property?). I think this would be really difficult to do since some degree of centralization (bonded escrow, reputation, whatever...) would be required, and it certainly would not work in every situation.

Risk Management Feature:
Personally I would not throw a lot of energy into this one since I don't think it offers much benefit over doing the same thing manually. The merchant has to do the bookkeeping entry anyway, so they could just as easily attach different wallets to the ledger themselves if risk management is a concern.

 Wink


28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 08, 2017, 09:10:35 AM
Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

In the US there is civil asset forfeiture. Authorities can take your cash without you being convicted of anything. Here's a few examples (only a few...this happens much more often than people realize)

http://dailysignal.com/2015/10/16/why-police-can-legally-seize-your-cash/

Instead of cash, I'd rather have untraceable Monero.

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.
29  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: August 01, 2017, 07:10:04 PM
This is a followup on my earlier post -

Since I don't expect to hear from them again I will go ahead and post my email correspondence with Mistertango support (timeline is from the bottom up, names and addresses have been removed...).

Quote

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Kanati wrote:

Hello again

"Borrowing" a friends smartphone would compromise their privacy and security just so I can get verified.  You could easily get the documentation you need from a PC on the Internet, so I don't see any reason why you really need all these permissions on a smartphone...

   Version 1.11.9 can access:

      Location
         precise location (GPS and network-based)
      Phone
         read phone status and identity
         Photos/Media/Files
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Storage
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Camera
         take pictures and videos
         Device ID & call information
         read phone status and identity
      Other
         receive data from Internet
         view network connections
         pair with Bluetooth devices
         full network access
         run at startup
         draw over other apps
         control vibration
         prevent device from sleeping

If having a smartphone is a requirement then I won't be needing the service. Please delete my account if that is the case.

Sincerely,
Kanati.

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

We would like su suggest to borrow mobile device from someone for identification and after that you could use our service using computer.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Aug  Kanati wrote:
 
Hello

Thank you for your reply.

Since I will not be buying a smart phone just to use this service, I ask that you kindly close my account.

Sincerely,
Kanati

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

Hello,

I am writing to you to inform, that there is only one way to get your verification done - using Mistertango app.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Aug Kanati  wrote:

Dear Support department

I started to open a MT account, and saw I needed a smart phone to confirm my ID.  Then I created a support case to ask if it is possible to use the service with a PC instead of a smart phone, but when I try to check the status of the support case the web page does not recognize my login credentials (which I also think is strange!).

Do I need a smart phone to use this service?

Sincerely,
Kanati.

----------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 2017-07-31 Mistertango wrote:

Hey!

just wanted to remind you that free Mistertango payment account and free MasterCard is waiting for you. All you need to do is just to complete the registration.

Complete registration and order my Free MasterCard

   Why is it worth to complete the registration at Mistertango:
      Free MasterCard;
      Free money transfers to EU banks;
      No monthly service fees.

We are here to help You:

Mistertango support team is ready to help you via email support@mistertango.com (I-V, 8:30-17:30)
 
Copyright © 2017 Mistertango, All rights reserved.
You are receiving this email because you have started a registration process at Mistertango.

Our mailing address is: Mistertango Perkūnkiemio g. 2 Vilnius LT-12126 Lithuania
Add us to your address book


A question for the forum -

Are these services truly "free" if you have to surrender your privacy and compromise your security to get them?  Roll Eyes




I opened a Mistertango account and I was very happy with the procedure. I am not royalty or a relative of the pope or the Sultan of Brunei so I am grateful and appreciate for the minimal effort and time required to open this account. I was neither asked to climb Mt Everest nor swim across the Pacific.

Positively identifying a client is a bank's core mandate and requirement. Lithuania is part of the EU and therefore observes strict KYC procedures.

The nerve and the audacity. Clients who throw tantrums or play the customer-is-king drama card are best contained quickly and advised to crawl back to that same hole they hibernated in or time-travel back to that age of no smartphones. They want this no-fee account. They want to be served in the year 2017, the age of smartphones. They want a means to move money from A to B. They want the free MasterCard. They want a bitcoin-friendly banking service. They want everything. But...

"Just don't ask me to do any work"

And then the bomb. The fellow thinks he is surrendering his privacy and compromising his security by signing up with a bank properly registered with Lietuvos Bankas, the Bank of Lithuania. He basically wants, additionally, to use a PC or some other device that will allow him (like many here) to bypass the very system which protects the bank from fraudulent applications. In his arrogant way of communicating with the bank, he makes every effort to convince the bank that HIS preferred way of doing it is the only way he wants it done. (try doing that with Citibank or Deutsche Bank or Credit Suisse or Bank of America...)

Nah, this strategy won't work. It's either you are truly throwing a tantrum OR you are attempting to fraudulently bypass Jumio, the intelligent identification system the bank has in place to thwart identity thieves.

One is best distanced from such people. Thus the third person talk.



This was posted so that people here can make an informed choice. If you like the service and are comfortable with your bank having access to basically everything you do and keep on your smart phone then great, enjoy. Your opinion doesn't entitle you to the righteously indignant ad hominem attack though.

While it's clear that you don't think that the bank should trust me, maybe you can also explain why I should trust a bank I don't know with my phones precise location (GPS and network-based) at all times, the ability to read my phone status identity and Photos/Media/Files, to read modify or delete the contents of my USB storage, to take pictures and videos with my phone camera, and all of this with full network and bluetooth access? Even if I trust a bank with all of this data that I no longer have any control over, then who is to say that the information will never be hacked, sold or leaked by insiders?

We are talking about a debit card that gets tanked up with my own money, so it's not like the bank is taking on any real risk here. Uploading a copy of my official ID, a recent picture, and some utility bills should be enough. The rest is no one else's business.



 



30  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: August 01, 2017, 01:12:22 PM
This is a followup on my earlier post -

Since I don't expect to hear from them again I will go ahead and post my email correspondence with Mistertango support (timeline is from the bottom up, names and addresses have been removed...).

Quote

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Kanati wrote:

Hello again

"Borrowing" a friends smartphone would compromise their privacy and security just so I can get verified.  You could easily get the documentation you need from a PC on the Internet, so I don't see any reason why you really need all these permissions on a smartphone...

   Version 1.11.9 can access:

      Location
         precise location (GPS and network-based)
      Phone
         read phone status and identity
         Photos/Media/Files
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Storage
         read the contents of your USB storage
         modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      Camera
         take pictures and videos
         Device ID & call information
         read phone status and identity
      Other
         receive data from Internet
         view network connections
         pair with Bluetooth devices
         full network access
         run at startup
         draw over other apps
         control vibration
         prevent device from sleeping

If having a smartphone is a requirement then I won't be needing the service. Please delete my account if that is the case.

Sincerely,
Kanati.

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

We would like su suggest to borrow mobile device from someone for identification and after that you could use our service using computer.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Aug  Kanati wrote:
 
Hello

Thank you for your reply.

Since I will not be buying a smart phone just to use this service, I ask that you kindly close my account.

Sincerely,
Kanati

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 2017-08-01 Mistertango wrote:

Hello,

I am writing to you to inform, that there is only one way to get your verification done - using Mistertango app.
 
Mistertango - Pagalbos centras / FAQs

----------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Aug Kanati  wrote:

Dear Support department

I started to open a MT account, and saw I needed a smart phone to confirm my ID.  Then I created a support case to ask if it is possible to use the service with a PC instead of a smart phone, but when I try to check the status of the support case the web page does not recognize my login credentials (which I also think is strange!).

Do I need a smart phone to use this service?

Sincerely,
Kanati.

----------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 2017-07-31 Mistertango wrote:

Hey!

just wanted to remind you that free Mistertango payment account and free MasterCard is waiting for you. All you need to do is just to complete the registration.

Complete registration and order my Free MasterCard

   Why is it worth to complete the registration at Mistertango:
      Free MasterCard;
      Free money transfers to EU banks;
      No monthly service fees.

We are here to help You:

Mistertango support team is ready to help you via email support@mistertango.com (I-V, 8:30-17:30)
 
Copyright © 2017 Mistertango, All rights reserved.
You are receiving this email because you have started a registration process at Mistertango.

Our mailing address is: Mistertango Perkūnkiemio g. 2 Vilnius LT-12126 Lithuania
Add us to your address book


A question for the forum -

Are these services truly "free" if you have to surrender your privacy and compromise your security to get them?  Roll Eyes

31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SCO] KUNA Exchange - 100.000 KUN tokens, begins July 28 on: July 31, 2017, 08:06:07 PM
Sorry, a bit curious here, what are the different with this thread with this one?https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053326.0, it look exactly the same but started by different person.

Well, I found one difference -

" The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you. "

 Huh
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON [2017-04-23: update to 0.9.12.0] on: July 31, 2017, 03:24:48 PM
...
And we also had a botnet dropping each day 3-5K coins for a market price.
...

Just out of curiosity - how do you know this was happening with an anonymous coin?
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: XMR.TO - pay any Bitcoin address anonymously using Monero on: July 30, 2017, 05:42:13 PM
Can you tell me why there is no Calculator? Because price is change every 10-30seconds so how i will know how much XMR are in BTC??
And tell me how much i will need to wait?

You can see the indicative price at any moment.
You can enter your desired BTC amount, and the website will tell you how many XMR you need to send (and also the exact price that you will get).

Conversion is instant for orders below 0.1 BTC. Above that you will wait 1-3 Monero confirmations depending on your amount, that is 2-6 minutes on average.


How is the indicative price calculated? It looks like there is some spread between it and the BTC/XMR rate on my exchange.

Edit - Would also like to know if you will convert til BTC or BCC (or both...) going forward?
34  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: July 30, 2017, 07:40:41 AM

Couldn't help but laugh at their Psychedelic Chick Lit website. I thought the pink bald eagle with the blue beak was especially awesome (can eagles be gay?)  Grin

Edit - could just be my browser of course, and no I'm not on anything  Wink
35  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: July 29, 2017, 12:44:39 PM

I'm not a scammer, but honestly I'm not that thrilled at the prospect of using their smart phone app when I see all of the permissions it requires  Tongue

Bunq and Revolut apps are worse than MT (Bunq even requires biometrics and will store your personal information indefinitely), so now I have a support case open with MT to see if I can just use the service from my PC instead.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: July 26, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
Ofc you cannot buy anything in Sumokoins yet for the coin is 2 months old, but I'm sure you will be able to in the future. Many other cryptocurrencies have no actual use (yet) but a capitalization far over a million dollar. Regarding the tech and developers activity and commitment, this is still a very good price to buy in my opinion. If you consider the project as overevalued I would gladly debate here on in private message !  Grin

Thanks for posting on the ann anyway guys

The "value" of Sumokoin is whatever someone is willing to pay for it - the point being made is that Sumo has potential.

It will have to be better than Monero to succeed.  Wink

37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For High-Confidential Transactions 🔏 on: July 26, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
While monero was good 1-2 years ago, now it's losing and there is almost nothing happening there...

If you mean by "losing" that it looks like someone is doing Monkey Business with the price of Monero, then I would agree with you on that point (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg20308341#msg20308341).

On the other hand I would not say that "almost nothing" is happening with Monero, even though "something" could happen faster (https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6juluf/any_new_updates_on_xmr_adoption/)

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It's simple to mine it, but there is no other reason why anyone should look into this. Can you buy something with SUMO these days?

Too true.

Sumo would also do well to avoid Monero's image problems...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1932227.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1932187.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538753.0
https://news.bitcoin.com/hackers-use-nsa-exploit-to-mine-monero-using-victims-computers/
https://themerkle.com/monero-mining-malware-prevented-wannacry-from-infecting-even-more-computers/
https://betanews.com/2017/05/19/adylkuzz-malware-make-money-monero-mining/
https://www.proofpoint.com/us/threat-insight/post/adylkuzz-cryptocurrency-mining-malware-spreading-for-weeks-via-eternalblue-doublepulsar



38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: July 26, 2017, 01:04:17 PM
Can anyone explain to me what this is doing?..

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2017-07-26 09:24:00.055   [P2P8]   INFO    global   src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1409   ###### REORGANIZE on height: 1362548 of 1362548 with cum_difficulty 2669945259586742
 alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 2669960854178764

Normal as long as it doesn't happen too much. When two miners find a block at close to the same time, nodes will temporarily disagree on the correct fork. That isn't resolved until one becomes conclusively longer than the other. Your node is reporting that it is switching between candidate chains.

Ok, I wasn't mining or anything like that so I thought it looked rather odd. Thanks for the explaination  Smiley
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: July 26, 2017, 09:21:36 AM
Can anyone explain to me what this is doing?..

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2017-07-26 09:24:00.055   [P2P8]   INFO    global   src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1409   ###### REORGANIZE on height: 1362548 of 1362548 with cum_difficulty 2669945259586742
 alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 2669960854178764
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: July 26, 2017, 09:15:50 AM
Has anyone ever tried to sync with the network at a speed of ~0.33mb/s? Bitcoin syncs fine, monero not so much, was wondering if it was just me?

I often use a slow connection that will not sync at all unless I run monerod with the "--block-sync-size 20" option.
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