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901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 18, 2017, 02:03:09 PM
Coinmarketcap is outdated, because it doesnt have api to see the coin supply - ACME will resolve it.

ACME is overkill for such a basic software engineering problem. The appropriate action would be to add the necessary command to the JSON-RPC set. I shall investigate what's involved and report back to the group.

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It's the best thing it's so decentralized, I thought about starting foundation, but I don't think it's necessary.

May I suggest “the best thing is its insistent focus on decentralisation” and fwiw, I agree with you about a foundation not being necessary but it might not actually be undesirable if it were able to preserve and promote the insistent focus. Asimov has already given us a model (Foundation, Second Foundation) which we can adopt should we wish, being fully aware of the irony and using it to our advantage.

TBH, we're collectively treading fresh ground here. There's no map, just vague indications and hints along the lines of “heere be tygers” or “maybe some rockes”, gleaned from hard-to-replicate empirical studies in the social sciences.

Cheers

Graham
902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 18, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
What I can't do is to write about Slim. We need someone to do that.

Unfortunately the OP doesn't seem interested in contributing but I am in the process of manually filtering the scraped posts of both bct Slimcoin threads for social and technical insights which I will (ultimately) summarise into a single posting to the group. I will also winnow the findings for useful passages to include in some in-wallet documentation which is so sorely needed.

On a slightly different matter, distributed exchanges are being discussed on HN today by some fairly well-grounded people https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14792071 (patio11 rounds off his observations with a delightfully wicked barb).

Some reflection might encourage the perception of an “exacting standards” programme as a defining feature of a centralised operation. Personally, I'd go further and tag it as a definitional element of corrupted centralisation. The fact that the more the hierarchy strives to exert control, the harder the attitude it takes towards enforcing exacting (what other type is there?) standards reveals it to be a typical component of command-and-control tactics and therefore not just irrelevant in a peer-to-peer context but potentially harmful because it works by falsely persuading peers that their understanding is faulty, i.e. it exploits a known vulnerability of peer-to-peer networks, that of pluralistic ignorance (aka “the bystander effect”). I believe I did mention that I'm a cognitive psychologist by training, so you may take it as read that I can supply peer-reviewed empirical support for my claims.

Not that such a meta-analysis is needed though; the programme is patently bogus from an engineering perspective because it's severely sub-optimal. The optimal approach for public-facing APIs is one that focuses on function, taken from the profoundly mature understanding of impedance-matching in the hardware domain: “be forgiving in what you accept as input and strict in what you emit as output”. (I may not have mentioned that I also know my way around a circuit board.)

Cheers

Graham
903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 18, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
Early, publicly-accessible version of ACME block and tx explorer customised for Slimcoin:

http://tessier.bel-epa.com:6053/ <-now 6054

I have tried ACME now and it seems to work fine - only address queries seem not to work still, but that should be related to what you said about the still lacking SPARQL strategy for these queries. Thanks again for your work!

The address details are now rendering and all txin & txout (not quite sure how to enable results to be elided just yet). I haven't yet checked it but I noted that the balance of an address of mine seemed to be in the ball park. Just for passing convenience, I added the burn, donation and bounty addresses to the Transactions menu. The address layout remains as confusing as I am confused. I imagine the presentation will become more coherent as the user task information requirements become clearer.

The SPARQL works quite nicely, e.g. this for the txouts:

Code:
PREFIX ccy: <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/ccy#>
SELECT DISTINCT(?txo AS ?transaction) ?datetime ?value ?stype
WHERE {
    ?txo ccy:address ccy:ShooqRfkshDajLTvYMEKRKxXW7ooZLBZsm .
    ?tx ccy:output ?txo .
    ?tx ccy:time ?datetime .
    ?txo ccy:value ?value .
    ?txo ccy:type ?stype
} ORDER BY DESC(?datetime)

Cheers

Graham
904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 18, 2017, 02:11:35 AM
gjhiggins said that the wallet is not stable enough to add Slim to Cryptopia for example.

Not quite. I am of the opinion that the Cryptopia experience of the Sprouts wallet’s “crashing every few minutes” problem is a severe manifestation of an issue that many Slimcoin node operators are familiar with and is partially ameliorated by using the reservebalance when staking to adjust the node's CPU demand as appropriate to the compute resources available. I tentatively infer that Cryptopia stake their customers' PoS deposits and if that is the case, it's a safe bet that they will experience the exact same issue with the Slimcoin wallet.

Cheers

Graham
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 17, 2017, 10:57:55 PM
(with no central settlement point all the trades go through) relies the BIP65 protocol.

There are other, more general use cases for CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY scripts. It just so happens that Hans Robeers has contributed a BIP65 backport to the PPCoin codebase - https://github.com/peercoin/peercoin/pull/149, so I plundered it to add BIP65 support to Slimcoin: https://github.com/slimcoin-project/Slimcoin/commit/3092f1edcb8a53da6d5586c61465bd7fb8b68a92

Code:
$ git clone https://github.com/slimcoin-project/Slimcoin/slimcoin.git
$ cd slimcoin
$ git checkout feature.bip65
$ cd src
$ make -f makefile.unix test_slimcoin
$ ./test_slimcoin

Cheers

Graham
906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 17, 2017, 10:45:34 PM
Beta ACME don't work for a few hours, what happend?

I got an unclear advice-only-no-action-needed email in Germlish from Hetzner going on about an “attack”. Reading between the lines, it would appear that the nonstandard port caused the traffic to be misidentified as a DoS attack by Hetzner's (security partners') algos.

I guess they blocked access. Machines are mindless monitors, so expect more of the same.

update: port assignment has been incremented to 6054

Cheers

Graham

907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 17, 2017, 09:13:26 AM
Sorry, red flags all over this one.

Because it will be truly decentralized, Blocknet has exacting standards for coin compatibility.

uh-huh, c.f. the No true Scotsman” fallacy.

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Blocknet is in the process of contacting all the developers of all the coins to determine the compatible coins for testing and adding to the exchange.  This is the question they need answered:
...
To start determining which coins are compatible, we need to find out if a coin uses *BOTH* OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY(CLTV) *AND* JSON RPC.

Exacting standards that can be trivially verified by checking github repositories? Yeah, right. A truly decentralised exchange yet they need to “determine the compatible coins”. Yeah, right. Questions they need answering before coin users can use the exchange? Yes sirree, that's *truly* decentralised all right.

If the exchange *was* truly decentralised, onboarding would be a pure userland decision; slimcoin users would just rock up and use the exchange.

The terms “serial entrepreneur” and “peer-to-peer” are mutually exclusive.

Cheers

Graham
908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 16, 2017, 05:59:59 PM
I am currently filling out the questionnaire for Coinomi integration.

I'm a  bit confused. I have a hard time believing that Coinomi would be prepared to put in the effort to extend the GUI to handle burn tx data --- but without burning, it ain't hardly Slimcoin.

Yes, I know I took a fast pass and a coinomi port looked trivial. Too trivial when I started to think about the UI.

Cheers

Graham
909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 15, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
I still have a weird problem with the lastest version of the wallet,

Is there anything indicative in debug.log, db.log or your system logs?

Cheers

Graham
910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 15, 2017, 01:01:40 AM
Do you (or anybody else) have vector Slimcoin logo?

https://github.com/slimcoin-project/Slimcoin/blob/master/src/qt/res/src/slimcoin.svg


Cheers

Graham
911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 11:09:41 PM
gjhiggins, what do you think of that for Facebook cover? I used original logo so there wouldn't be any re-design, just an artwork based on current logo.

Looks fine. May I use it for the wallet splash screen? Are there rights?

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Altcoins rely on two different types of consensus. The first type is the cryptographic consensus that must be created in order for the currency to function at all; the second type is the social consensus that is created by people choosing to hold the coin and/or run nodes. It is the social consensus that gives the cryptographic consensus its semantics, its meaning.

So, “official” this and “official” that are meaningless in the context of a cryptocurrency because no-one has the authority to stamp anything “official”. Or rather, anyone and everyone has the opportunity to stamp anything they want as “official” or make a claim to be “the official dev” but it carries no inherent authority, only that which it can engender by it own efforts. When it comes to p2p apps, the bottom line is that as soon as the source code is publicly released, no-one is ”in charge” of anything.

The witticism “herding cats” doesn’t even come in to it; people are completely free to do as they like: run a node, not run a node; hold coins, don’t hold coins; set up a foundation, a faucet, a business, promote the coin, fud the coin, set up webwallets, offer an alternative wallet design, provide off-chain features, pay to spam the blockchain, pay to clean up the blockchain, generously contribute to a faucet, mischievously drain a faucet dry.

An altcoin “community” is an egalitarian group of pseudonymous strangers. These are the ground conditions to which any altcoin community is obliged to accommodate itself when conducting its affairs.

The requirement for egality means that the only viable activity model is self-organisation. The requirement for pseudonymity means that the only sustainable relationship model is self-interested co-operation.

In short, it should work best if you do what you like for yourself but try to respect that a consensus exists.

Cheers

Graham
912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
You didn't read till the end
 

Yes I did. OS X has a /Library as well as a ~/Library for each user. Your message indicated that you used /Library, not ~/Library.

Cheers

Graham
913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptos every made? on: July 14, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
So I'd assume that coinmarketcap only shows coins currently on exchanges (or at least delisted not too long ago).

Only on exchanges. But I don't think they delete anything ...

Minkiz carries a list of Bittrex delisted coins and Banknote was delisted on 2015-03-08

...

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/banknote/


Cheers

Graham
914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 07:19:11 PM
I have Macintosh HD/Users/dzarmush/ and that's it, no Library there

So make one and the subdirectory SLIMCoin, that's the assumed location of the Slimcoin datadir on OS X:

https://github.com/slimcoin-project/Slimcoin/blob/master/src/util.cpp#L862

Cheers

Graham

915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 07:12:11 PM
If they give out the reason why they suspended for a few hours trading, and then clear out the whole order book, maybe I would change my mind and today opinion, I don't have any trouble with them, but this isn't open, when you just shut down and reset everything without warning.

https://novaexchange.com/news/

“2017-07-14 15:00 - Some orderbooks was accidentally emptied

When removing and adding markets there was a mistake causing some markets to be closed that was not supposed to be closed. When they were activated once again the orderbooks was empty. All orders was automatically cancelled and refunded to users account balances. Sorry for this, luckily only a few active markets was affected by this.”

Cheers

Graham


916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 06:14:51 PM
Where do I put downloaded blockchain files on Mac? They unzip in the same directory as archive and the client doesn't see them.

/Users/dzarmush/Library/Application Support/SLIMCoin

          ^^^ your id here

Cheers

Graham
917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 06:08:08 PM
newbie miner here, using OSX unfortunately.

I'm using the QT graphical client.

To mine it says I need to enter "setgenerate true" into the console but it doesn't respond back with anything. Is that normal? Just running in the background?

Code:
$ slimcoinbdb48d help setgenerate
setgenerate <generate> [genproclimit]
<generate> is true or false to turn generation on or off.
Generation is limited to [genproclimit] processors, -1 is unlimited.

If you didn't specify a number of processes limit with genproclimit on the command line or in the config, then you should see slimcoin at the top of the list produced by running top in a terminal.

Also, getmininginfo presents information on number of hashespersec.

Code:
{
    "blocks" : 1043744,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.02014334,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkghps" : 0.00074582,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

Cheers

Graham
 
918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptos every made? on: July 14, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
indulgent tabular listing of all coins+icon: https://minkiz.co/coin/

The "all the coins" list contains HeavyCoin (HVC) and HobbitCoin (HBC) while the other list and coinmarketcap seem not to have them.
So I guess that this is the bigger list until now.

Coinmarketcap can only list coins that are listed on an exchange, so there's a whole pile of coins that have never appeared on coinmarketcap ...

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To be perfectly honest, we underestimated the reservations against the fuck word. Most of the major exchanges are US based and we thought people were more open in 2014. We had it all, the initial lol moment, people were digging fuckcoin, but no exchange, no matter how hard we tried, was willing  to  add fuckcoin with the FUCK symbol. We even heard of refunded BTC "exchange votes" from the community. This is why there was no update on the fuckcoin wallet.


Cheers

Graham
919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Test v0.5 release candidates on: July 14, 2017, 04:09:27 PM
Also, fwiw, my review of Nova exchange.

T&C's reference Dunkers IT and assert validity under Swedish Law. Some ducking and diving (lol) led me to:

http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/254990000/Dunkers-It-Ab-in-Kping-Sweden <- inaccessible 'cos system problem

“Linus Dunkers runs SCRYPT mining operations here in Sweden, he is also founder of Dunkers IT AB and BTC Sweden”

https://bitjoin.me/2016/04/02/linus-dunkers/

https://www.facebook.com/dunkersitab/

I think it's a reasonable match, can't be bothered to estimate the probability.

Cheers

Graham
920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptos every made? on: July 14, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Hi, everyone.

I am looking for a loooooooong list of all the coins that have ever been made.

If anyone knows a site that is like this, then it would be cool if you could post it below.


Up to March 2016: (but it is “a loooooooong list”)

renderings ..

indulgent tabular listing of all coins+icon: https://minkiz.co/coin/

more economical tabbed listing of name+symbol: https://minkiz.co/coin/name/

raw data ...

Repository: https://github.com/DOACC/individuals (RDF in ntriples).

Cheers

Graham
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