https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741728.msg8784778#msg8784778

Take from this what you want, but I am no longer supporting Keycoin.

Yes, it's good on the surface.  But if all I said is true, then I don't like the way the devs operate.  Can't just abandon one coin and jump to the next (which is pretty much what happened, if true).  It's rather distasteful.  

First of all, I was a KEY supporter since the beginning and I also bought a little bit into HAL.  Not trying to FUD as I have made my profits and have sincerely supported Keycoin (see my post history) but now I'm out for the time being and here's why:

Not sure what to make of it, but I just realized something.  I was never involved in Crypt, but right now I have a very strange feeling that the anon tech that was promised to be delivered for Crypt was actually delivered for Keycoin.  And then a month ago Keycoin devs (or rather, "Pr0m3theus") said that they were working on a decentralized anon, but they have not said a word about it since.  (Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695457.msg8237412#msg8237412)

I get the feeling that this decentralized anon is actually this one here that was delivered for Hal.

Again, not trying to imply anything, but there seems to be some connections here.  Could be just a coincidence, but definitely seems weird...  Also, not to mention this "Pr0m3theus" person has been involved in and/or hyped up all 3 coins (Crypt, Key, Hal):  https://twitter.com/_pr0m3theus_

So to all the honest investors:  All I can say is be cautious.

I think you're right.  There aren't enough people who are in it for the long term and there are too many pump and dumpers in on it from the beginning. It's actually a striking similarity to Keycoin. Pretty much the same pump and dumpers hyping both coins up if you look at twitter. It's kind of a shame since both coins are pretty legit in regards to tech and development.

In case anyone has been out of the loop, it looks like Dan Metcalf plans to release his code review for both Halcyon and Stealthcoin today.  This is not only good news for those coins, but also very good news for Key.  Dan is now considered a part of the key dev team (he manages the KeyOS) and Key also happens to be the first coin (that I know of) that he code reviewed.  As his reputation grows in the community, so will the reputation of Keycoin (and obviously his own coin, XC).  These are exciting times.

That's interesting, I did not know that.  Definitely a good thing to have someone with experience in it to help with the development.

Did you happen to find the solution to your wallet problem yet?

Well, KeyOS is largely based on the TAILS OS, which is open source.  So the resources have already been there for anyone out there with the knowledge to recreate something similar to KeyOS for their own coin.  It's just that Keycoin happens to be the first to do it.  I think there were a couple coins in the past that had plans to do it but never followed through.  Ultimately, it will be the apps/tools that will set keycoin apart.

Nice to see you keep your promise and come back.  I agree with you about Key being a good coin and prices being somewhat terrible for what it is.  But who is to blame for this? Maybe all the damn pump and dumpers on twitter hyping everything up like they always do?  I don't know.  It is rather annoying to see such a good coin at this low of a price.  It certainly raises some concerns that I hope will somehow be addressed if Keycoin were hoping to achieve and maintain a higher market cap.

Maybe about time the website gets updated with new content and guides for KeyOS, KeyTrader, etc.?

Seems like some of the Keycoin features are getting recognition from more and more people, even those who are not so tech oriented.  I'd say that's pretty good news.

Not sure about the wallet issues.  As for the OS, you're suppose to burn the image file onto a usb drive or a cd/dvd and boot it up from there.  I used this program for the bootable usb drive route:  http://rufus.akeo.ie/

I completely agree with this statement.  Features are coming out at a faster pace than the relative increase in coins.  Remember, Keycoin is only about 7 weeks old!

I think BTCD is a great example of holding and maintaining value.  If anyone here has been following them, they've had 2 big pumps and they were subsequently able to maintain a large percentage of the price increase.  And they haven't even released any of their big features yet! This is all because they have a lot of people who hold and believe in the project (based on what I can gather from their forum posts).  

I think keycoin devs have demonstrated so far that they are committed to this project with their delivery on all their big promises so far (anon, keytrader, keyOS).  So just hold if you believe they will continue to deliver and price will surely increase.  Go day trade some other coin.

As of now, KeyOS is just a platform, so I agree that it by itself does not really offer any use for most people.  I think the true test of functionality will be the apps and tools that the devs (or the community) are going to integrate into the OS.  Imagine if the Windows OS didn't have all the apps/programs for it (Office, etc.).  So we will have to wait and see.



I've also been following BTCD and was wondering this as well.  It all does seem very intriguing.

@Jesse Livermore: 

Have just recently been introduced to your thread.  Read through all your comments on this thread and through some of your previous posts in your history (sorry for being a stalker).  You seem very professional and know what you're talking about.  Definitely peaked my interest.  Would like to hear what you think about Keycoin.

Yeah don't know why some are so impatient.  KeyOS has only been out for a little over a day and as already stated, this OS is just the first release candidate. Still lots of things that will get ironed out and some of the main features have not even been added yet. KeyTrader 2.0 is on the horizon.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about the OS, I think we can all agree that this dev team can definitely deliver. That alone is worth a lot.

The way I see it, until Bitcoin reaches mass adoption, no other coin can hope to reach that level.  It's been over 5 years and Bitcoin is still not quite there yet, let alone a very new coin such as Keycoin.  Any altcoin that claims to be able to reach mass adoption before Bitcoin does is just dreaming, imo.

My point is that for the time being, I think Keycoin is targeting the right audience.  Crypto trading has become very popular and will continue to grow in popularity simply because it is very easy to start for those who are somewhat tech savvy and the prospect of making lots of money very quickly makes it something that is highly desirable.  Compare it to the stock market, which is a lot harder to begin and you have to wait a lot longer for profits.  It's just the psychology of the world these days; we all want everything to be quick.

And as far as anonymous trading goes, I see this as more of a future precaution.  Right now crypto trading is completely unregulated.  Imagine if at some point, governments decide to intervene and put in regulations.  We all would want a safe place to trade without having to deal with all that.  Also, there are many people out there who just simply don't want their identity known and their actions traceable.

And let's not forget, they haven't released KeyTrader 2.0 yet.  I think this is also planned for this week.

Nice.  Looks like there is a lot of both short-term and long-term potential here.  There's only so much you can build onto a coin, but with an entire OS, the possibilities are endless.  I know the technology is important and all, but I'd like to hear how you guys plan to market this.  Is the selling of custom made USB sticks with OS on it still in the works?  Once a more polished version of the OS is out, it would be a shame not to sell it as an actual product (on the website, amazon, ebay, etc.)

Nothing that I think would provide the info you seek. Which is why I've been urging devs to release a statement and give us more in depth info about the release.  Guess we will just have to be patient.

Edit: or I guess you can always direct your concerns to Dan Metcalf of XC since he's the guy in charge of the security

No official statement yet. My guess is there will be one either soon or sometime tomorrow, since tomorrow was actually the planned release date.

Also from what I understand, the OS that was uploaded onto the XC server is still not the official release

Again, I don't think the true pump has happened yet.  Those who are aware know that people are willing to buy at much higher prices. Just one month ago, there were people willing to buy at over 200k and that was without KeyOS and KeyTrader.

Awesome.  Can devs do an official update/statement just so everyone is on the same page with what's going on?