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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCrow Escrow Service - Fraud(?) on: November 27, 2015, 05:14:28 PM
956Vette, I've already sent the information requested by private, we have a privacy policy but you are free to publish your own information.
Some of the headers of your received emails are spuffed emails. It can be a "man in the middle" attack between you and us. As I recommended initially go to the police.

I was skeptical for several reasons:

- There were 4 previous transactions with different amounts, in one of them the IP of buyer and seller were the same.
- The buyer never replied to any of our emails.
- After initiated the inspection period the buyer has the option to release the payment, but he never release the payment.
- You contact us three times about this and I told you two times that request the of release payment (a option in the seller panel), but you preferred to wait until the transaction expire.

And finally the payment is released but strangely you do not receive it. For me it was very rare. But after seeing the emails spuffed undoubtedly some kind of scam has occurred and will do everything possible to help you find the culprit.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCrow Escrow Service - Fraud(?) on: November 26, 2015, 07:35:11 AM

1 time is one too many. Your attitude seems very nonchalant about the whole matter.

You don't seem to be offering up any information as to what could have possibly happened.  If he initiated the escrow and entered in his address, it should have been locked in correct?  Can the receiving address be changed at any point by a malicious party?  Or once an address is placed in, it can't be changed?

I would like to hear what kind of scam would allow an escrow transaction already in motion, to be redirected to a new address?

Also you don't send an email confirming the address used in the escrow once initiated?  That doesn't make sense.  When a user initiates the escrow an email should be sent stating their correct deposit address. If not, how can we verify you aren't selectively scamming people?

About your final insinuations, this never happened before, since 2011 never. All "problems" that can be found about us are occasional delays during network problems with the stress test or malleability.

Scammers have tried numerous types of fraud with spoofed emails and phishing addresses, all alerts on our website have a reason for being there are 4 or 5 attempts of scam every week. I already requested all our emails with respective headers to try to find out what happened. But in my opinion this time seems more likely that somehow the customer entered a wrong address copied from somewhere.

Probably is necessary to verify the address before release payment to avoid these situations (we work on it), but this was not something predictable, in four years has never happened.

We have all logs and everything has a demonstrable record, and we have informed to the customer that we can cooperate with any investigation by the authorities of his country and provide them all the data that require. I think we are providing all possible help, and I'm sorry if you do not feel the same.


Regards,

BTCROW
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCrow Escrow Service - Fraud(?) on: November 25, 2015, 01:13:53 AM
This seems highly suspect on BTCRows part.  Are you saying you just send money to an address without ever sending an email to the person to verify the address is correct or their address to begin with? 

How do we know BTCrow isn't directing funds to their own addresses?

This is exactly their protocol. Absolute nonsense. BTCrow, I created this topic and alerted you so that you may help others...care to do so?

In each transaction the user sets and confirms the payment address when confirming the transaction and email, at the beginning of each transaction.  When the payment is released is sent to that address without further confirmations because it was confirmed at the beginning.

Many users use our platform every month, even with larger transactions and is the first time something like this happens. I do not know if it is an error copying the wrong address or you have been the victim of some kind of scam but we have only done our part and paid to the address listed on the transaction.


Regards,

BTCROW.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCrow Escrow Service - Fraud(?) on: November 23, 2015, 09:28:44 PM
Dear customer,

I do not understand how it happened but that address appear from the beginning in your transaction:



Our payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/6c90aa749b6364fb18941166bee880c75ee3c9d05eba738099bd9cd7423c540e

It could be that you added the wrong address, or some kind f scam with spuffed emails and a spuffed website. We need all our mails with the header to find the problem if any of them is spoofed. When the transaction expires the payment was released. You contacted us twice last week and knew that the payment would automatically be released after that time.

We keep logs of IPs and can collaborate with the police to resolve this situation.

Regards,

BTCROW
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCROW.com holding my bitcoins and not releasing them on: October 29, 2015, 08:18:51 PM
Due to problems in our bitcoind we have had minor delays. The buyer requested the payment on 22th and was paid on 24th.
 It was not 12 days.

I hope you get this fixedm but i rememer someone said they are scammers.

Where? We are the first and the oldest bitcoin escrow. And we've had little problems but no one can say that about us. More than 10,000 transactions without any major problems.
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is btcrow.com trusted / any good? on: September 30, 2015, 02:39:10 AM
There's already been quite a few scam reports on btcrow.com; just stay as far away as possible from them. Forum escrows have done the job completely well and handled large amounts of bitcoin.

"Scam"?

No, The only thing are delays in releasing funds during the stress test.

From what I have heard here and there, rumors say that they are selective scammers, which pick out the ones, who most likely wont report them.
This is just a rumor, I am not saying its as scam.

Nobody can say that.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I got scammed by btcrow.com - please HELP on: September 21, 2015, 02:17:48 AM
It was an exceptional delay due to the stress tests. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.


Regards,

BTCrow.com
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTCrow.com e-mail scam attempt on: September 21, 2015, 02:15:48 AM
We appreciate you have contacted us early to avoid the scam. We've contacted to the freehosting used for spoofed emails and soon will update our system to prevent this situations.

Regards,


BTCrow.com
9  Economy / Services / Re: BTCrow.com - Bitcoin Escrow Service - For safer bitcoin transactions on: December 30, 2013, 08:33:30 PM
I'm fairly certain your site is being used by scammers, similar to this post: https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/fraud#craigslist-scam-for-knc-jup

I contacted a Craiglist seller that insisted I use BTCRow for escrow even though we are planning a face-to-face exchange. Here is a copy of the complete email invoice he sent me, which looks pretty legit at first glance. I'm sure it's a scam, I just wanted to post it here to make sure and perhaps raise awareness if it is.

So.... is this really from you?

There has been a CL scammer trying to spoof btcrow.com emails. Most email providers flag these emails as junk because the sending IP does not match our SPF record.

Pattern the scammer uses

1. Selling mining hardware on Craigslist for BTC.
2. Sends a BTC payment address in a spoofed email.
3. Misspells the victims email address (e.g. user@gmaii.com) so their intended victim does not receive the genuine btcrow.com email.
4. Sometimes uses a fake BTCrow.com page (on free web hosting) in order to fool victims.

We have posted simple security tips prominently over BTCrow.com. Following these tips will ensure a safe transaction.

The most important factor is to confirm details of your transaction on BTCrow.com. We have added a page where the viewer must type their email address before viewing a transaction. This ensures the viewer's email address matches what we have on record.

Unfortunately some people have been scammed by this person. Most of these did not follow the security precautions or did not visit the BTCrow.com site to check if the transaction was genuine. They simply sent bitcoins to the BTC address in the spoofed email.
10  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 5x BFL Singles 60GH/s - IN HAND on: October 01, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
We've just cancelled all three escrows with this seller. Buyers should have received their refunds by now.

11  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 5x BFL Singles 60GH/s - IN HAND on: September 30, 2013, 01:51:37 AM
BTcrow takes a long time to credit transactions

Sorry about that we had a minor issue with the process that checks for confirmations. After we became aware, it was fixed within minutes.

Escrows should now be credited within two minutes of having six (6) confirmations.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: To the person contacting BTCrow.com on: September 25, 2013, 08:27:45 PM
It turns out the person entered the wrong email address/domain in the first contact-us web form. Their first contact used a safe-mail.com email address. It should have been safe-mail.net.
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / To the person contacting BTCrow.com on: September 25, 2013, 05:31:11 AM
To the person using a safe-mail.net email address contacting us with scam accusations.

The reason you haven't received a reply from us is because your email provider (safe-mail.net) has rejected every email (from gmail) we have attempted to send to you over the past several days.

Please use another email provider so we may reply to you. We have no other way of contacting you.

Alternatively you can leave us a message on bitcointalk.org.

Quote
[REMOVED]@safe-mail.net
Hi ;

I already made contact with you several days ago and did not had an answer. I pointed that i was scammed by a seller with a fake mail adress and wrong bitcoin adress. I pointed that you could NOTE IN BOLD AND RED, on the page when confirming adress, that the mails have to come from btcrow.com@gmail.com and that the bitcoin adress is never send buy mail to the buyer, which is not noted on your site.

You never replied to me. I had a number of exchanges with the seller. Surprising for a scammer. He was rather convincing.

So maybe you are the scammers. It's easy, your "guarantee" don't cover wrong bitcoin adress (don't cover much in fact) and your procedure is extremely vague (bad combination).

But even if it's not you, you don't even answer to my message, which is the strict minimum.

Based on your answers to this message (or your absence of answers), i'm gonna tell about my experience everywhere like bitcointalk.org, and believe me if you don't take the time to answer to me, i'm gonna make you awful publicity.

Regards, anyway
C.
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Has anyone used BTcrow? on: September 25, 2013, 02:19:30 AM
There's quite a few threads. Google "btcrow.com site:bitcointalk.org"
15  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: http://btcrow.com/ legit or scam? on: September 25, 2013, 01:01:15 AM
This BtCRow is affiliated with bcchanger, scammer paradise.

Do not trust at all.

Unfortunately there have been scammers on bcchanger. This however is no reflection on btcrowcom.

We took over the bcchanger.com website, but simply haven't had funds to progress the site to where it should/could be. We certainly do not condone or take part in scamming. We have a zero tolerance for scamming, anyone caught scamming on bcchanger is immediately banned from the site or exposed in the forum.

 


16  Economy / Services / Re: BTCrow.com - Bitcoin Escrow Service - For safer bitcoin transactions on: September 25, 2013, 12:38:07 AM
what happens if buyer gets product, marks as received too, but doesn't release escrow for the seller?

do you have some sort of auto escrow release?

We don't have an auto release feature.

For this situation the seller can request release of escrow. This will send another email to the buyer with instructions of how to release the escrow.

If the buyer consistently fails to release and does not raise a dispute we will manually release the escrow.
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Issues With BTCrow RESOLVED on: September 24, 2013, 10:56:18 PM
I know this reply is a little late but it's left for anyone wondering what happened.

The original poster had their escrow processed successfully. However the release time was a little longer than they expected.

Recently we have streamlined the release process to enable much faster escrow releases while maintaining a high level of security.
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTCROW ESCROW SERVICE on: September 24, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
Just to clear this matter. The original poster was paid out it took a little longer than they expected, but still withing the 24 hour period.

For security reasons we have a manual fail-safe procedure to release each escrow transaction. Normally we release very fast, however due to time-zone differences it occasionally takes a little longer.

Recently we have improved the service so that escrow release times are much faster.
19  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Proof of autenticity BTCrow Escrow tracing on: September 03, 2013, 02:09:37 AM
The OP requested I post here to prove I'm the owner of the bitcointalk.org BTCrow account.

Might I recommend getting SSL for your website. http://www.godaddy.com/ssl/ssl-certificates.aspx?ci=9039

Would offer some security to those who are reluctant to use your services?

We have been using SSL for years. e.g. https://btcrow.com/startescrow.php
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Proof of autenticity BTCrow Escrow tracing on: August 29, 2013, 03:02:48 AM
The OP requested I post here to prove I'm the owner of the bitcointalk.org BTCrow account.
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