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21  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MTGOX Coins has just started to move on: June 11, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
NetAgent was recently hired by the trustee to investigate the possible hacks and bitcoin in Mt. Gox. It is possible they made a sensible recommendation, namely, move the BTC to a secure address where you know you control the private keys. Frankly, that should have been done as soon as the trustee took control.

Any source for NetAgent being hired?
22  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Proof of massive fraudulent trading activity and how it has affected the price on: May 26, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Except that the database withdrawals and deposits have been matched to the blockchain:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxAddresses/comments/25gq8h/likely_mt_gox_transactions_identified/

So the coins are real.

Moreover, in regards to Markus, we know that MT Gox made about 300k btc in profits, we also know that MK sold about 220k btc, and we further know that MK currently hold on gox about 70k-80k btc.

So MK sold his btc - nothing wrong with that.
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF. on: May 24, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
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If you've taught me one thing, phinn, it's to vet rather than believe. Can you sign a message with the private key or keys used to txfer $100k to the Bitcoin Foundation as well as the transaction?

To be clear, you asking me about my tx or KnC's tx?

Lol...sorry to break it to you, but there's more than one receiving address at the foundation. Each member gets their own address. Go to members.bitcoinfoundation.org, login, get your address and see for yourself.



Can we please be shown the transaction of around 200 btc from KNC miner to the Foundation?

I don't doubt it was made, but the whole point of this thread is that it does not seem to be on the foundation's main btc address. So you don't need to answer 50 question, but just one:

Where is the KNC bitcoin payment to the foundation?

You should ask _them_...it's their private info.

The foundation seems to have an address which shows publicly the donations and the membership payments received. Thus - there does not seem to be anything private here.

We have this public ledger which allows for full accountability and transparency. If doubts are raised - as they are in this thread - considering that a public address is not private information then... where is that payment?

The election was decided by only 1 vote. Therefore if KNC paid late etc there are grounds for a re-election. We hear they paid just one day before - I do not know if that is true - in fact I do not know whether they paid at all...

24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF. on: May 24, 2014, 12:00:30 PM
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If you've taught me one thing, phinn, it's to vet rather than believe. Can you sign a message with the private key or keys used to txfer $100k to the Bitcoin Foundation as well as the transaction?

To be clear, you asking me about my tx or KnC's tx?

Lol...sorry to break it to you, but there's more than one receiving address at the foundation. Each member gets their own address. Go to members.bitcoinfoundation.org, login, get your address and see for yourself.



Can we please be shown the transaction of around 200 btc from KNC miner to the Foundation?

I don't doubt it was made, but the whole point of this thread is that it does not seem to be on the foundation's main btc address. So you don't need to answer 50 question, but just one:

Where is the KNC bitcoin payment to the foundation?
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just paid the $100K USD via BTC to become a Platinum Member of TBF. on: May 23, 2014, 02:58:17 PM
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/04/30/kncminer-joins-bitcoin-foundation-at-platinum-level/

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Blog

KnCMiner Joins Bitcoin Foundation at Platinum Level

By Jinyoung Lee Englund • April 30, 2014

knc

In five short years, Bitcoin mining has inspired cutting edge innovation and breathed new life into the silicon industry. Leading the pack is our newest Platinum member, KnCMiner.

“We are avid believers in Bitcoin and its potential to shape the future of digital transactions worldwide — most notably for millions of people traditionally locked out of the financial system. Our values are aligned with that of the Bitcoin Foundation and we are proud to support its work,” said Andreas Kennemar, Co-Founder of KnCMiner, Inc.

Based in Stockholm, KnCMiner is a proven leader in delivering custom designed, high performance ASIC mining hardware — payable in bitcoin. Their mission is to provide the best equipment and service solutions in Bitcoin mining. Co-founders Andreas Kennemar, Marcus Erlandsson, Michael Unnebäck, and Sam Cole bring 10+ years of experience in embedded electronic development, focused on FPGA and ASIC design as well as 25+ years in product and service development respectively.

“In this era of Bitcoin mining, experienced companies like KnCMiner provide the necessary technology to strengthen and power the distributed network and secure long-lasting stability for Bitcoin’s infrastructure,” said Jon Matonis, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Foundation.

To learn more about KnCMiner, visithttps://www.kncminer.com/

Welcome, KnCMiner!

With apologies to those who congratulated me, I ask: WHERE THE FUCK IS PROOF THAT KnC MINER PAID THEIR $100K USD via BTC TO THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION FOR THEIR PLATINUM MEMBERSHIP PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO VOTE FOR BROCK PIERCE FOR THE EMPTY BOARD SEAT? It ain't fuckin' there, is it? Just like mine isn't there, to show, again with apologies, that these fucks can claim anything and nobody would even fuckin' look to see if it's true. Hell, most here took my statement as gospel because they trust me, just like we were trusting TBF. NOW, we find out we've been lied to by the very group that's suppose to protect us.

TBF only uses one bitcoin wallet address for transparency.
TBF received 5,000 BTC to said address at onset of formation.
TBF oNLy accepts BTC - none other - when accepting membership dues, regardless the size.
TBF has some 'splainin' to do!

TBF cannot claim if was via some other money transfer avenue, for that would negate the rules they themselves written.
TBF cannot show some other bitcoin wallet account they have control of, for that would negate their transparency stance, along with showing something else that could be easily gleaned if such exists.
TBF cannot claim that it hasn't been paid yet, for that would open up a whole 'nother can o' worms.

Looks to me like TBF has got themself into another pickle.

How many more times am I, along with the entire Bitcoin community, going to be lied to? How much more money will be stolen from us BITCOIN MINIONS due the foxes guarding the Jerk Chicken house?

Da fuq did I just read?

I can't help it, but feel that there must be some explanation, i.e. maybe a different address used for membership payments?

If that is not the case then...
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin-pizza day on: May 22, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
What were Lazaro's pizza toppings?

I must know the toppings....  Smiley
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I nominate Phinnaeus Gage to TBF memebers vetting committee on: May 20, 2014, 03:39:16 PM
You mean that racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic goat-fucking, thinks-his-shit-doesn't-stink guy? Somebody should vet his fucking ass to see who the fuck is paying him to destroy so many lives. I don't believe for one fucking minute that he really did have 1000 bitcoins stolen by whatever that site is called. He's the cancer around here, marc my words.

I apologize for the cussing, but I honestly can't stand the prick.

New around here? You don't know the detective very well. Perhaps you mistake his humor?

Don't forget, we are all real people. Real people you could grab a bite to eat with or chat on the phone to. Do you normally slander acquaintances in real life, or just on the internet?

Slander: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
I wonder who is slandering whom?

It's worst than you think! The guy slandering me, AL, was really me, one of my known alts on this forum, of which the others have all been declared, with none cloaked.

I didn't want the ruse to go too long, hence ending it now, showing that nobody's doing any vetting on these characters but me, and of late, now a handful of others, of which I desire to thank.

There is some amazing shady shit going on behind the scenes, and some right in front of our noses, yet blind to see it. A simple checking of the post history of AL would have alerted anybody that that user account belongs to me.

Thanks to those who came to my defense.

Apologies to those who may have found it cruel.

~Bruno Kucinskas
~Al the Alpaca

LOL
28  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Pizza for bitcoins? on: May 19, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
The 5 million pizza

Smiley
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Pizza Day (Laszlo Pizza Day) May 22nd TODAY! on: May 19, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
Yeah, we should have a pizza party.
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Yet Another Brock Pierce Thread on: May 17, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Can we hear more about this "follow the money". Perhaps in its own thread or here if you wish.
31  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Latest Controversy on: May 16, 2014, 02:32:40 PM
The controversy and chaos that seems to shadow Bitcoin continued this week as several members of the virtual currency's biggest advocacy group, Bitcoin Foundation, resigned during its annual meeting in Amsterdam to protest a new director's election.

According to various reports, the members resigned because they were unhappy with Brock Pierce, 33, a controversial actor and former Disney child star that the foundation appointed as a director.

Some of the people who resigned expressed concern with Pierce's past history, which the new organization said included allegations in past lawsuits that he provided drugs and alcohol to minors and pressured them for sex, Reuters reported.

The report also quoted Pierce's response to those allegations by telling Reuters in an email, "The allegations against me are not true, and I have never had intimate or sexual contact with any of the people who made those allegations." 

What's the link for this? It says they resigned during the annual meeting...
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All things considered Brock Pierce, et al.! [w/POLL] on: May 16, 2014, 02:14:12 PM
Wow. Just wow
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Finally, MT Gox database data linked to blockchain addresses on: May 13, 2014, 10:53:05 PM
"As a step in determining what happened to the bitcoin inside Mt. Gox, we have completed preliminary identification of the transfers of bitcoin on the blockchain which correspond to the transfers given in the leaked btc_xfer_report.csv file.

The algorithm used was able to identify a single corresponding transaction on the blockchain for 50% of deposits, corresponding to 77% of all bitcoin deposited at Mt. Gox since March 2011. For withdrawals, the algorithm identified 36% of transactions, corresponding to 75% of all bitcoin withdrawals over the same time period.

These identifications are the first steps in determining which bitcoin addresses may contain both hot and cold wallet storage of bitcoin for Mt. Gox. There is more work to be done, including using the identified transactions to trace internal flows of bitcoin based on the leaked Mt. Gox source code and identifying additional transactions to complete the record.

Further information is available at http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxaddresses/wiki/transactionidentification. If you can assist this effort, please join us there."




http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxAddresses/comments/25gq8h/likely_mt_gox_transactions_identified/
34  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Filing injunction by May 16 to release seized Mt. Gox bitcoins on: May 11, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
Interesting, but what sort of action would this be?
I'm not sure what Tuck had in mind, nor am I any lawyer, but the basis should probably be something like the "innocent owner defence" in asset seizure.

See: 18 U.S. Code § 983 - General rules for civil forfeiture proceedings
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/983
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d) Innocent Owner Defense.—
(1) An innocent owner’s interest in property shall not be forfeited under any civil forfeiture statute. The claimant shall have the burden of proving that the claimant is an innocent owner by a preponderance of the evidence.
(2)
(A) With respect to a property interest in existence at the time the illegal conduct giving rise to forfeiture took place, the term “innocent owner” means an owner who—
(i) did not know of the conduct giving rise to forfeiture; or
(ii) upon learning of the conduct giving rise to the forfeiture, did all that reasonably could be expected under the circumstances to terminate such use of the property.

Each "innocent owner" would then have to file a motion with the court, yet s/he must have legal standing in order to do so, and be represented by legal counsel.

It's a little confusing, because the agency behind the forfeiture is supposed to give notice, and any person losing the property have time to answer. With a "gag order" in place, this process sounds problematic at best.

It does not seem possible for a putative seizure of Mt. Gox's bitcoins and cash to have taken place without at least tacit, if not full, cooperation of the Japanese authorities. Perhaps the laws in Japan are rather different.

This whole affair is certainly not in the best interests of Japan's reputation as an attractive investment destination, since no investor would ever wish to be subject to any such government confiscation.

It seems to me it would be easier to conduct a freedom of information act request on information regarding Mt. Gox's customers Bitcoins.  This information should not give away anything about ongoing criminal investigations and should be accepted.  It would simply request different bureacracies such as the FBI or other likely involved agencies to release information as to the whereabouts and/or ownership powers over customers' Bitcoins.  Gets rid of the step of a legal case against the government which could take years.

After the request gives back information you would know whether the story is true or not, and the government would be able to continue its investigation, so it should be an easier way then forcing it to court from the get go.

That's a very good idea
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation Must Remove Satoshi as Founder on: May 10, 2014, 02:09:21 AM

WOW I didn't even know this... This makes me actually hate the bitcoin foundation on so many levels.

As chair of the election committee, I can assure you your hate should be directed at the voters. This was _their_ decision. But, you don't need to trust me. Every voter received the hash of their encrypted ballot and the list of all the ballot hashes is available to each voter.

If the foundation is claiming to speak on our behalf then the vote should be open to all and there obviously should be some rules as to who can stand as a candidate and or when they must resign.
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation Must Remove Satoshi as Founder on: May 09, 2014, 09:48:46 PM
DannyHamilton I wasn't sure if you were trolling or not, but the above post makes it apparent.

Not trolling.  Just trying to make a point that a significant number of people don't seem to be able to grasp.

I think it's silly to put Satoshi's name as a "founder" of the bitcoin foundation.  Honorary or otherwise.


You did a good job trolling this thread mate. Keep it up, see where it takes you.
37  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 09, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
If these people want to represent us then the voting should be open to all

38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation Must Remove Satoshi as Founder on: May 09, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
It's been fun, but this discussion is getting boring.

You're all talking in circles, and you can "demand action" all you want.  It won't make a difference.

Have fun agreeing with each other that the should do what you want them to do.

DannyHamilton I wasn't sure if you were trolling or not, but the above post makes it apparent.

For all it's worth I can't find any reference to satoshi on the bitcoin foundation website or any wikipedia article referring to the foundation website. So I guess they have removed it as they have been requested.
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation Must Remove Satoshi as Founder on: May 09, 2014, 04:20:10 PM
"Unless you are Satoshi, or unless he has given permission for you to speak on his behalf, the bitcoin foundation has as much right to speak on his behalf as you do."

The bitcoin foundation was created after Satoshi stopped speaking. Therefore the claim that satoshi was a founder is an outright lie. To lie is wrong so, that's it, his name should not be listed as a founder of a foundation which elects an alleged pedofile as a director.
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Foundation Must Remove Satoshi as Founder on: May 09, 2014, 03:54:59 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto was not a founder of the bitcoin foundation. It  is highly unethical for him to be listed as a founder. It is not an honorary title. Satoshi created a decentralised system. He would hate the foundation's centralisation.

Now that a highly controversial figure has been elected to the board I think it is imperative that the foundation stops claiming legitimacy by stating that Satoshi was in any way a founder or in any way approved of that rotten centalisation.

How can you speak for Satoshi?  Do you know him personally?  Has he told you that he doesn't want to be associated with the Foundation?  Can you prove that he didn't give the foundation permission to list him?

It is highly unethical for you to be deciding on behalf of Satoshi if he should be listed unless he has given you permission to do so.  Let him speak for himself if he is against it.

The point you make in bold is very good. Unless the Bitcoin Foundation provides proof that Satoshi wants to be listed as a founder then the Bitcoin Foundation is acting unethically. It should be no problem for the Bitcoin Foundation to provide the proof since they must know Satoshi personally to have listed him as a founder.

Satoshi spoke when he did not want to be confused with Dorian, why would not he speak about something a lot more serious as being part of a group full of dirty? He would.



Satoshi stopped speaking about 3 years ago and has said nothing save for "I am not Dorian". He said that because an innocent man's life might have been in danger therefore he probably judges that it is right for him to speak in regards to this very exceptional and unusual circumstance.

He isn't going to come out and speak for every tiny other thing. He has chosen to leave and be silent. That's his choice. To expect him to say he is not a founder is also to expect him to say a lot of other stuff which he seems to have chosen not to do so.

Therefore unless he has given permission to be listed as founder it is highly unethical and manipulative as well as an outright lie to claim that satoshi was a founder of the bitcoin foundation.

The onus is on the foundation to prove he was a founder. If they can't provide such evidence then his name should be removed so that outsiders can see it as just a group rather than THE group created by THE man himself.

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