If the bitcoins were stolen through Mt.gox, how would this information help? Mt.gox has apparently lost all the bitcoins anyway.
They withdrew almost all of the coins that they had in gox. |
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Also if anyone has leaked docs that tie the name to the wallet id on gox then I guess that would work too.
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Alright, I managed to do some searching in the blockchain and matched up some of the transactions with addresses: Wallet,Entry,Date,Operation,Amount,destination address
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,fdf28c9a-745d-4d3c-8f50-45e19611d8ff,8/27/2011 20:13,deposit,19.99,1H3yLqvDisw9Rm9sJH6x54p9mBxvto7ZKR
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,90700c4b-979e-4fa3-bbee-41bf3a516f2e,8/27/2011 23:21,deposit,1.24,1NUJw4KRR6mQs8ZDCeNcVNpBQVAHeNN5LP
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,bf2a6901-6796-4e5e-bab6-7c837785d258,8/30/2011 9:43,deposit,2.99,17wgJJjRLVrrqPC1BuRNXghex4SfeN5Xn4
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f04644dd-8728-4739-97a0-84aed2ba9661,8/30/2011 23:09,deposit,3.98,1Mo32MoE3ySKwj5AcRRJZTSgsNDEck11ya
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ef67ec14-21b1-4038-8cb6-bdb6754a29eb,8/30/2011 23:26,deposit,7.96,1Mo32MoE3ySKwj5AcRRJZTSgsNDEck11ya
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ce1b6453-1a48-4ed8-8154-4ba3d215dded,8/31/2011 20:41,deposit,5,12JfFhH6t1mLP2K4SmhjFMEW2iMFj47h2d
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a5dbdc42-93fc-47c4-a0a4-ae0027a12c97,8/31/2011 20:44,deposit,12,12JfFhH6t1mLP2K4SmhjFMEW2iMFj47h2d
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,524db8a4-c778-4ffb-89a6-f43e1074f1ef,8/31/2011 23:43,deposit,3,12JfFhH6t1mLP2K4SmhjFMEW2iMFj47h2d
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ce07c5fe-fcb4-4170-97f0-5ea4a65101eb,9/2/2011 23:15,deposit,1,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,16582cb1-ca2d-46c9-af91-6fce89e28c05,9/3/2011 10:08,deposit,7,1HLsCwVBCY38yp81wzvxYWNquTVCfV12dP
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,40aa9c03-23d4-467b-aa77-2dbca754401d,9/3/2011 15:00,deposit,2,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ba7603cf-2ceb-4d43-a499-1d3ae2816ad7,9/3/2011 19:10,deposit,2,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,d4a54d9f-60b6-4b8e-91c0-fd0050fcd755,9/4/2011 1:09,deposit,2,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ccd75799-f765-47b1-beee-d15f1943e9bd,9/5/2011 20:57,deposit,7,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,8c05cb1a-4899-4e24-bf46-edcdc792339c,9/6/2011 19:55,deposit,1,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,fd37acaa-b681-4bec-b455-d49a25459157,9/6/2011 20:24,deposit,2,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a5a75b7e-ca05-4909-b74b-25aa3146b75b,9/7/2011 16:24,deposit,30,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,dfd65139-04ea-4e3f-a10f-3d82dfc960ca,9/7/2011 17:03,deposit,60,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ace8681a-82d4-4d08-a01a-99572bff0baf,9/8/2011 6:31,deposit,0.5,12JfFhH6t1mLP2K4SmhjFMEW2iMFj47h2d
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f694b4c6-7e4a-4b06-994b-66c94083b804,9/10/2011 0:37,deposit,0.0005,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,677ba76f-91a3-4b6a-8dd9-11dbad9e70d2,9/10/2011 3:29,deposit,0.01,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,e0daeea3-8c9d-46b4-bfad-3985857394c3,9/10/2011 17:26,deposit,0.01,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,527a6b61-9939-481b-be0b-ef6912526f20,9/12/2011 15:21,deposit,0.0005,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0de8240b-0a3c-45fc-8204-52a1f7befe7f,9/14/2011 12:10,deposit,0.0005,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,01b81f32-7c01-4bfc-81c2-e65e982d2f0b,9/16/2011 13:18,deposit,0.0025,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,15f576e6-38ce-4ae0-bc35-b733e31d7844,9/16/2011 15:13,deposit,3,16ZgQRsXrALq5YpCAHkQJ2WuRaVrzSXQKj
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f38d507d-2d1b-4724-978f-a820140cfde1,9/17/2011 14:06,deposit,2,16ZgQRsXrALq5YpCAHkQJ2WuRaVrzSXQKj
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,8b9b12a5-f60a-4a0d-931c-b26e9bb749e6,9/18/2011 1:39,deposit,0.0005,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ceee8358-45f8-498a-bff8-a3d9d1488525,9/18/2011 1:39,deposit,0.0005,mine
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9430097b-033d-4ced-9049-ad26f47d3b3f,1/11/2012 14:38,deposit,55,1NjizCRbQaESxM9aLfAeAbpK89VotCJPcQ
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,1c41bc0e-e054-430c-b90e-90199f3fb116,1/12/2012 14:09,deposit,52.44,1JHZ57CC3oLUp9feeHsU8gMTWg13KdxR9j
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ab439e9e-6cfb-4661-b174-ae6f1ef469cd,1/12/2012 18:10,deposit,1,1JHZ57CC3oLUp9feeHsU8gMTWg13KdxR9j
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,5aba2848-82f9-42c8-8fa4-713741326fab,1/13/2012 0:41,deposit,14,1JHZ57CC3oLUp9feeHsU8gMTWg13KdxR9j
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,77401382-b825-4728-aae6-80941cd4450b,1/14/2012 21:30,deposit,2.3,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c873b660-2b75-429a-882b-4ca580669227,1/16/2012 19:20,deposit,30,1NV5NzEii6cHgnEsrwmZoY9cZv2zwXzWZj
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ac5b6279-707f-495e-b968-b284622ed37e,1/16/2012 19:22,deposit,5,1NV5NzEii6cHgnEsrwmZoY9cZv2zwXzWZj
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,efe53ee0-2a0e-4427-b531-a599c8009802,1/16/2012 20:03,deposit,60,1NV5NzEii6cHgnEsrwmZoY9cZv2zwXzWZj
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,3029d990-032c-4cba-a8d2-eda15ad9822e,1/16/2012 20:47,deposit,20,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0b05f0b5-d3fb-419e-ac1f-03c2cb0b3031,1/16/2012 20:47,deposit,20,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,87127d14-83e3-47b4-8662-36f323ff0214,1/17/2012 2:54,deposit,20,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,43359987-6f12-438b-9367-e702cb22cc91,1/18/2012 20:29,deposit,1,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,61c823d8-4a50-4212-9fbc-fd2464cadd25,1/18/2012 21:58,deposit,1,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c86dbb95-7ebd-45cb-b82f-da80d1809f29,1/18/2012 21:58,deposit,1,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,858a988b-b4e3-403a-bce2-e1e4753ad259,1/18/2012 21:59,deposit,1,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,38b78033-8684-42ef-8ef4-f278b4314638,1/18/2012 22:36,deposit,10,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,67cd2961-a72b-4e88-9f34-bc461bd16a48,1/19/2012 3:15,deposit,0.05,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,35f1d936-c45e-4db6-a5b2-b6fe7e6f5736,1/19/2012 3:16,deposit,1,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,b45a0c83-0289-4a54-b53f-70cbe13eb865,1/19/2012 6:47,deposit,0.98,1MWccZhfhgx3SUWLathYbozaB6RT77MW4i
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,449b0184-123f-424a-817f-f62520fca6d8,1/20/2012 16:58,deposit,1,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a7519456-83c3-49df-88b2-1385255ae2af,1/20/2012 19:23,deposit,1,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a8cad929-fef0-4b58-b9d2-1aa66dfafe6f,1/20/2012 21:22,deposit,4,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,4afe03f3-6725-4f57-b94d-d7184d4a6d4b,1/24/2012 15:23,deposit,20,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0105f8e8-66cc-461e-875a-c0980f6cdb0a,1/26/2012 20:34,deposit,50,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,de3cf860-5e64-4798-b9b0-71f5f9602724,1/27/2012 6:37,deposit,5,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,65ded8a8-217f-44f7-8df1-bc1b00848a17,1/27/2012 18:11,deposit,5,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,6aec7242-78f4-4994-a23b-e15a31abd7d5,1/12/2012 17:23,withdraw,-30,1Nxvb6BFzCckUkczxtnPX3CbGxzXtxoAtB
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,5de8d2dd-24c0-4da2-9e6f-ef63d53ea6ea,1/20/2012 16:16,withdraw,-100,1Nxvb6BFzCckUkczxtnPX3CbGxzXtxoAtB
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c9908c8a-b20f-465b-b91f-19e2a1d34831,1/27/2012 16:16,withdraw,-100,1Nxvb6BFzCckUkczxtnPX3CbGxzXtxoAtB
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c73e3488-53f2-4095-9c0a-216972e37cc2,2/6/2012 13:28,withdraw,-59,14qAKAgLRS5wkuGJDebRzDCcWgnQERdBny
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9bb94af1-4512-40ee-bcc2-5c86bd8994e4,8/19/2011 1:01,deposit,1.4,1Xt6SPihp3pmQEec5YTtVrgU35zFUbBgx
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,1fdc3473-9300-4884-8899-76ef1f59f08a,8/21/2011 22:52,deposit,11,
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9991c382-b460-4a19-b028-887e2507fe1d,8/22/2011 10:00,deposit,1.99,1DD44SCTKwETcdawVtVF7jK5iq41nAhXGU I did manage to get the withdrawal addresses but as far as I can tell they are another exchange (or something). I couldn't identify them as deposits into another mtgox wallet. I might be at a dead-end here unless someone has a good way to trace out things from these addresses. Anybody? |
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It looks like they decided to turn the China Manipulation script back on at Huobi...
Until bitstamp or btc-e starts doing 0% fees this will continue I'm afraid.. I don't think fees are the issue. Fake volume is. Maybe bitstamp needs to make its volume appear 10x higher than it actually is... |
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It looks like they decided to turn the China Manipulation script back on at Huobi...
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Expected more bounce from this news magnitude. Bad sign. Keeping shorts open. Maybe China pushes it. Also gold keeps going down - no interest in alternatives to fiat at this moment.
Except stocks are on a pretty solid downtrend in the last few days - I think this is looking very good for bitcoin right now. |
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I'm surprised that the hash rate on EMC hasn't dropped at all.
You don't expect to have their farm in their offices and registered under the same company name right? But I hope someone will tip FTC about EMC! IIRC Josh ran EMC well before he ever got involved with BFL. |
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Too bad he doesn't have any cash. He'll just go through bankruptcy and nobody will ever see a dime.
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PKF says new report to be due by the 1st of June
really. Where did you get this info? Think they will do it? Derp.. maybe its a holiday or something in NZ, because I didn't get an update from them, guessing no one else did? IIRC they were late for their last deadline too by few weeks. |
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mtgox: http://bitcoinity.org/markets?exchange=mtgox (a bit laggy while their API is still not fully functional) tradehill: http://bitcoinity.org/markets?exchange=tradehillI just wanted to create some thread to collect feedback. Ideas or problem reports are welcome. Basically I just created it to have some live ticker on my unused 15" LCD (so it's kinda optimized for 1024x768 full screen), but since some poeple started using it, I'm developing it a bit more. More features coming soon. ------------ wow Mt.gox Really? You are going to quote something from 3 years ago and then say wow? |
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I know who did it.
You may read this and think - this guy is a liar.
But I swear to whatever God you believe in - I know who did it.
That's great! Now...what are you going to do about it? |
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I vote positive or up, because why wouldn't it be a good thing to restore 670,000 BTC to it's rightful owners.
Mt. Gox will have it day in court yet, but what about the traders, investors, home owners, early adopters, supporters of Bitcoin that got "Goxxed".
If the coins are returned, I would imagine the majority would continue trading or investing, just not at Gox.
Several will sell off and get out of the Bitcoin game, but a vast majority are in it for the long haul.
..Which results in the price going down |
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Is anyone on board to look into situations where we can go after PKF Liquidators?
In a couple weeks I am going to have a chance to talk to a lawyer that is employed by a broker-dealer in USA and ask him/her if we have any recourse to go after them for essentially being incompetent in handling the situation.
I am going to bring the "reports" that they sent us, along with any more relevant information I can think of. If anyone is interested, please send me a PM here and your public key so we can talk. I do not believe that they will charge me anything just to talk to them from what I gather, but I wanted to have all the information clearly available and a clear timeline in hand.
Thanks-
Spending the 100k+ in almost 2 years isn't that bad in value but thanks for the laugh ..and what did they accomplish in those 2 years? They answered a few emails? Wrote a couple "reports"? Is that really worth $100k?? |
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As for evidence: I started to get suspicious when I noticed that coins I sent to Ian were moved in July this year. And from the history of that address, it seems like it was one of Ian's pooling addresses.
Well at least from the SEC document we know that pay.btc was a real pass-through. It could still be though that Ian kept some coins for himself when it was clear that things would collapse. That would not surprise me at all. He may have ended up with a lot more than he started with - he seemed a little worried about clawback... |
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Did anyone contact payb.tc? Does anyone know anything about Trendon Shavers judjement? I'd like to know whether there is any chance of recovering a part of our BTC.
Well, from the sounds of it Trendon didn't have many assets left to seize and still carries a considerable amount of debt. So I doubt that much, if anything, gets paid out... Of course it's hard to believe Trendon wasted a quarter million BTCs, with nothing substancial left now. Even when the exchange rate was way lower back then. We'll see, I guess. He will give his "strategy" a second though when facing two-digit jailtime.. Ente If he does still have a decent amount of bitcoins left then I'd bet that as soon as the judgement is made and reality sets in for him (before sentencing) then he will probably go on the run... |
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Did anyone contact payb.tc? Does anyone know anything about Trendon Shavers judjement? I'd like to know whether there is any chance of recovering a part of our BTC.
Well, from the sounds of it Trendon didn't have many assets left to seize and still carries a considerable amount of debt. So I doubt that much, if anything, gets paid out... |
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Ok - so I looked through the leaked mtgox data and I have found a wallet associated with the account (which makes me really irritated because I contacted mtgox directly about this before and they said that the address was not associated with them  ). Anyway, here is the data that I found for this wallet: Wallet,Entry,Date,Operation,Amount
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,fdf28c9a-745d-4d3c-8f50-45e19611d8ff,"2011-08-27 20:13:01",deposit,19.99
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,90700c4b-979e-4fa3-bbee-41bf3a516f2e,"2011-08-27 23:21:00",deposit,1.24
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,bf2a6901-6796-4e5e-bab6-7c837785d258,"2011-08-30 09:43:01",deposit,2.99
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f04644dd-8728-4739-97a0-84aed2ba9661,"2011-08-30 23:09:00",deposit,3.98
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ef67ec14-21b1-4038-8cb6-bdb6754a29eb,"2011-08-30 23:26:01",deposit,7.96
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ce1b6453-1a48-4ed8-8154-4ba3d215dded,"2011-08-31 20:41:00",deposit,5
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a5dbdc42-93fc-47c4-a0a4-ae0027a12c97,"2011-08-31 20:44:00",deposit,12
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,524db8a4-c778-4ffb-89a6-f43e1074f1ef,"2011-08-31 23:43:00",deposit,3
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ce07c5fe-fcb4-4170-97f0-5ea4a65101eb,"2011-09-02 23:15:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,16582cb1-ca2d-46c9-af91-6fce89e28c05,"2011-09-03 10:08:12",deposit,7
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,40aa9c03-23d4-467b-aa77-2dbca754401d,"2011-09-03 15:00:00",deposit,2
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ba7603cf-2ceb-4d43-a499-1d3ae2816ad7,"2011-09-03 19:10:09",deposit,2
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,d4a54d9f-60b6-4b8e-91c0-fd0050fcd755,"2011-09-04 01:09:03",deposit,2
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ccd75799-f765-47b1-beee-d15f1943e9bd,"2011-09-05 20:57:44",deposit,7
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,8c05cb1a-4899-4e24-bf46-edcdc792339c,"2011-09-06 19:55:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,fd37acaa-b681-4bec-b455-d49a25459157,"2011-09-06 20:24:00",deposit,2
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a5a75b7e-ca05-4909-b74b-25aa3146b75b,"2011-09-07 16:24:02",deposit,30
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,dfd65139-04ea-4e3f-a10f-3d82dfc960ca,"2011-09-07 17:03:03",deposit,60
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ace8681a-82d4-4d08-a01a-99572bff0baf,"2011-09-08 06:31:00",deposit,0.5
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f694b4c6-7e4a-4b06-994b-66c94083b804,"2011-09-10 00:37:00",deposit,0.0005
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,677ba76f-91a3-4b6a-8dd9-11dbad9e70d2,"2011-09-10 03:29:00",deposit,0.01
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,e0daeea3-8c9d-46b4-bfad-3985857394c3,"2011-09-10 17:26:00",deposit,0.01
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,527a6b61-9939-481b-be0b-ef6912526f20,"2011-09-12 15:21:00",deposit,0.0005
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0de8240b-0a3c-45fc-8204-52a1f7befe7f,"2011-09-14 12:10:00",deposit,0.0005
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,01b81f32-7c01-4bfc-81c2-e65e982d2f0b,"2011-09-16 13:18:00",deposit,0.0025
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,15f576e6-38ce-4ae0-bc35-b733e31d7844,"2011-09-16 15:13:00",deposit,3
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,f38d507d-2d1b-4724-978f-a820140cfde1,"2011-09-17 14:06:00",deposit,2
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,8b9b12a5-f60a-4a0d-931c-b26e9bb749e6,"2011-09-18 01:39:00",deposit,0.0005
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ceee8358-45f8-498a-bff8-a3d9d1488525,"2011-09-18 01:39:00",deposit,0.0005
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9430097b-033d-4ced-9049-ad26f47d3b3f,"2012-01-11 14:38:00",deposit,55
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,1c41bc0e-e054-430c-b90e-90199f3fb116,"2012-01-12 14:09:00",deposit,52.44
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ab439e9e-6cfb-4661-b174-ae6f1ef469cd,"2012-01-12 18:10:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,5aba2848-82f9-42c8-8fa4-713741326fab,"2012-01-13 00:41:00",deposit,14
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,77401382-b825-4728-aae6-80941cd4450b,"2012-01-14 21:30:55",deposit,2.3
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c873b660-2b75-429a-882b-4ca580669227,"2012-01-16 19:20:00",deposit,30
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,ac5b6279-707f-495e-b968-b284622ed37e,"2012-01-16 19:22:00",deposit,5
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,efe53ee0-2a0e-4427-b531-a599c8009802,"2012-01-16 20:03:00",deposit,60
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,3029d990-032c-4cba-a8d2-eda15ad9822e,"2012-01-16 20:47:16",deposit,20
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0b05f0b5-d3fb-419e-ac1f-03c2cb0b3031,"2012-01-16 20:47:26",deposit,20
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,87127d14-83e3-47b4-8662-36f323ff0214,"2012-01-17 02:54:22",deposit,20
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,43359987-6f12-438b-9367-e702cb22cc91,"2012-01-18 20:29:01",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,61c823d8-4a50-4212-9fbc-fd2464cadd25,"2012-01-18 21:58:02",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c86dbb95-7ebd-45cb-b82f-da80d1809f29,"2012-01-18 21:58:02",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,858a988b-b4e3-403a-bce2-e1e4753ad259,"2012-01-18 21:59:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,38b78033-8684-42ef-8ef4-f278b4314638,"2012-01-18 22:36:00",deposit,10
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,67cd2961-a72b-4e88-9f34-bc461bd16a48,"2012-01-19 03:15:01",deposit,0.05
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,35f1d936-c45e-4db6-a5b2-b6fe7e6f5736,"2012-01-19 03:16:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,b45a0c83-0289-4a54-b53f-70cbe13eb865,"2012-01-19 06:47:01",deposit,0.98
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,449b0184-123f-424a-817f-f62520fca6d8,"2012-01-20 16:58:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a7519456-83c3-49df-88b2-1385255ae2af,"2012-01-20 19:23:00",deposit,1
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,a8cad929-fef0-4b58-b9d2-1aa66dfafe6f,"2012-01-20 21:22:00",deposit,4
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,4afe03f3-6725-4f57-b94d-d7184d4a6d4b,"2012-01-24 15:23:47",deposit,20
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,0105f8e8-66cc-461e-875a-c0980f6cdb0a,"2012-01-26 20:34:46",deposit,50
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,de3cf860-5e64-4798-b9b0-71f5f9602724,"2012-01-27 06:37:01",deposit,5
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,65ded8a8-217f-44f7-8df1-bc1b00848a17,"2012-01-27 18:11:02",deposit,5
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,6aec7242-78f4-4994-a23b-e15a31abd7d5,"2012-01-12 17:23:16",withdraw,-30
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,5de8d2dd-24c0-4da2-9e6f-ef63d53ea6ea,"2012-01-20 16:16:54",withdraw,-100
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c9908c8a-b20f-465b-b91f-19e2a1d34831,"2012-01-27 16:16:19",withdraw,-100
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,c73e3488-53f2-4095-9c0a-216972e37cc2,"2012-02-06 13:28:06",withdraw,-59
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9bb94af1-4512-40ee-bcc2-5c86bd8994e4,"2011-08-19 01:01:06",deposit,1.4
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,1fdc3473-9300-4884-8899-76ef1f59f08a,"2011-08-21 22:52:00",deposit,11
a3f401b5-24c2-4fbd-97f1-33bf0b27d100,9991c382-b460-4a19-b028-887e2507fe1d,"2011-08-22 10:00:08",deposit,1.99 Now - how can we identify the owner of this wallet? |
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10k bfx wall is back
They obviously do not want to sell and I am betting they are using a pretty high amount of margin to execute it. The fact that weak hands are actually selling because of it is sad. I would disagree that they don't want to sell. They have put the wall up several times over a few days; at this point anyone that wants to buy a lot of bitcoin would have seen that wall pop up and can expect it to pop up again a few times a day, and they will be able to buy a lot instantly without any slippage. This guy is just advertising his wall, waiting for someone to buy. Putting that wall up so often would be idiotic if they don't want to sell because if the price is undervalued, someone is going to buy a few thousand instantly and that wall guy will lose a ton of money. I just do not believe any major walls that are placed on BFX compare to BSP. With margin and being able to short on BFX most of the time any walls that are placed on BFX will be pulled once it simply gets near the price. I do not even think BFX has that many coins sitting on their BSP account to sell that many coins. If he was willing to sell that many coins, it would completely wipe out BFX's order book like every time there has been a spike. There is a reason why that wall has been holding for so long on BFX compared to if it was placed on BSP. There really aren't any major players on BFX like BSP wanting to even remotely buy that many coins. BFX has grown significantly and I think its comparable in size to btc-e, not counting litecoin or other alts. BFX doesn't need coins on their BSP account; they have more than enough on their own books. You really think someone is shorting 10k btc on max leverage on bfx when someone could easily buy a large chunk if not all at once, especially now since they have had a lot of time to get their money ready and think about that decision? They could lose a few million very fast if someone does decide to buy into that wall, given that they are shorting. We can speculate about whether or not there are major players on bfx and its hard to tell, but I think there are now just because it is the best way to short bitcoin, which has attracted many traders. No one would risk so much money by shorting 10k btc on the assumption that no one can or will buy into their wall. The reward of possibly buying at most few hundred slightly cheap coins is nothing compared to that risk. And the fact that this person is advertising the wall, putting it for a few hours every day, suggests that they are trying to sell the coins. Agree, nobody risks being called on a short like than in a stagnent market on high leverage. I too beleive its an advertisment for a sale with no slippage for either party. They have some way of pulling it as soon as price reaches it. I tried to buy into that wall yesterday on bitfinex and somehow didn't seem to get any piece of it before it was pulled. |
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