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My partner and I learn a hard lesson with Rijk and we lost money on Gulden and florin. Yes we were dumb are treated like dirt by him in on slack. We moved on and made better investments in crypto. We consider the Gulden gone and it's terrible he is making the community pay to swap to new coin that he fucked up.
I left this trainwreck with minimal profits. The entitled leadership of Rijk was never going to bring any success and I pushed hard for change on the Gulden slack.
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Malcolm no longer developer for Munt and Florin, this is over. Rijk still has postmine and domains that was paid for by community funding. One member told me on slack he lost more money on Rijks coins then on a scam coin.
MaNI won't have a problem with getting another job in the industry. Rijk needs a course in economics before he tries anything in the future, the decisions and expectations from those decisions were science fiction at best. eg Selling the postmine on the only service thats easy to buy coins and expecting the price to go up on an exchange that was last relevant in 2017. The forever down coin, I liquidated my position on this trash long ago. Useless leadership that doesn't take solid advice from people who know how markets work.
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I liquidated all my crypto assets when the FED raised rates, waiting for the cycle to peak before I jump back in.
The Gulden name attracted WAYYY too many boomers living a dream of a return to the guilder. I support the move to a new coin name and plan to invest when the time is right.
Time to bring in the dutch youth to crypto, they are the future of NL.
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I would prefer it if Rijk dropped Gulden and focus on Florin because he doesn't do a lot of work himself and if you lazy its better to put time into one coin. Florin investors are lucky for now because Rijk does not have Gulden but if he creates a new Gulden what will his new favorite coin be?
Rijk has worked harder for Florin in the last 6 months then the 8 years for Gulden. He got investors for Florin but chased away rich investors for Gulden. I don't own any of these 2 coins and I won't buy Gulden because it's the child Rijk does not want. Florin under €50 I will buy because Rijk is dedicated to it. Month 4 and BramVee is still waiting for Florin under €50 lol That Rijk worked harder for Florin is BS. That rich investors don’t want to invest in Gulden is just basic economics. They didnt become rich investors because they have bad business sense. If you spend 100.000€ in Gulden today , your investment will be worth 50.000€ tomorrow. Btw you have a discussion to do with Realist because he claims the investors aren’t rich. €59 , my experience is helping. A few years ago I was one of the idiots buying at the high prices. Mining dumps are destroying the buy orders. 40 mining coins earned a day. €59 was 0.0012 XFL hahahaha 0.00165 = €59 , florin needs some pumpamental action, more exchange listings and investors showing face or we going to have another Gulden on our hands
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Love it.
Rijk get that new premine ma boy. Florin has poor volumes and price down 70% from ATH... work it babe work it. You manipulate those lil bitches as best you can. Get this change signed sealed and delivered next week.
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Rijk when you going to remove those sell orders? Next time use a different bittrex address. LMAO Oh nice, thanks for helping my argument. So all sell orders come from the same address? Why you be wasting time on these lil bitches, get a florin pump going and show them where the monies at.
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Florin = Rank #752 Gulden = Rank #1282
Rijk wins the argument.
Why is the price of Gulden gone to shit!! Herp Derp Ask Rijk to add a dev reward to florin and shit talk it and see the rank after? Price is also determined on confidence and morale. Large double standards between Florin and Gulden. Gulden paying a development reward but Florin getting all the development releases? Gulden has had 1 release in 3 years and we wonder why the price of Gulden is down? Any one with a brain can see Rijk is prioritising everything on Florin because he SOLD ALL HIS GULDEN! Why would he add a dev reward? Investors who bought the premine have money and guarantee further development of Florin. This is news to me and will take back what I said if true? In the first message from Rijk on slack he states that future development is secured by the investors A little concerned the small guys have to fit the bill for a Florin exchange listing when I was expecting the "rich florin premine investors" to pay for all this? Arent they the ones holding most of the coins, something is not adding up here. A guy with 50 coins is supposed to donate for an exchange that will benefit investors with over 20 000 coins. Link the donation address. What exchange?
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Rijk my bruh make sure to pull in those Florin airdrop holders for support on the premine. They see the bigger picture.
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Florin = Rank #752 Gulden = Rank #1282
Rijk wins the argument.
Why is the price of Gulden gone to shit!! Herp Derp Ask Rijk to add a dev reward to florin and shit talk it and see the rank after? Price is also determined on confidence and morale. Large double standards between Florin and Gulden. Gulden paying a development reward but Florin getting all the development releases? Gulden has had 1 release in 3 years and we wonder why the price of Gulden is down? Any one with a brain can see Rijk is prioritising everything on Florin because he SOLD ALL HIS GULDEN! Why would he add a dev reward? Investors who bought the premine have money and guarantee further development of Florin. This is news to me and will take back what I said if true? In the first message from Rijk on slack he states that future development is secured by the investors Florin needs a high profile exchange soon to spike interest, one exchange is high risk for traders. Before any changes are agreed on, can someone ask who the premine investors for Florin are? I would like some proof on this before Rijk claims investors exist and ready to buy Gulden. Like many others I think the florin premine investor story was a big lie to pump the price.
Rijk said he will not disclose, its up to the investors if and when. So all you can do is be patient and if you dont trust it, dont buy xfl. Its simpel. And why do Gulden whales always tend to say “Like many others” while sharing your opinion. Lol. Nobody thinks the investor story is a lie but you. The issue here is the Gulden trough is worth peanuts while the florin price pumped. A large premine is needed to secure a constant price augmentation for Florin. It's not a lie because it's of little consequence how the investment was made up. I buy Gulden off blockhut , Rijk receives the funds and he becomes a investor into Florin.
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I am all for the change to Gulden if Rijk can extract more money out of the new Gulden to support the Florin price. The current development reward trough is not good enough to help on this trading war front.
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Anyone investing in Florin don't forget to keep your word recovery in a safe place. I couldn't for the life of me remember my wallet password when I tried to send coins. I first tried to use the wallet.dat backup but it still needed the wallet password, then I restored from the word recovery and I could set a new password. That would of been over €3000 lost forever!!
30k lost in a month
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A fluctuation in hodling and mining rewards to reflect the florin price, the higher the price the lower the reward. I will support a total remuneration of $1 per block.
It's only 30 coins a day in total and 210 every week and 50% won't sell immediately. Look at the buy orders. Enough to keep the price above 200000 sat for a week if no new buyers and their will be buyers. This coin needs to get new buyers mate, this market can't support over 800 new coins a month at these prices. Hate to burst your bubble mate but not seeing anything wealthy in this market. It's a house of cards that can collapse any minute. Wealthy investors and less then 1 btc in buy order to 10% of the current price. Your definition of wealthy and mine are completely different.
Patience limey... serious pumpamentals signs are brewing. FU dipshit. You see Limey, a bit of patience, ATH incoming.
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@Doxter the block reward is fine as miners only receive 0.025. I am only starting to sell my mining earnings from last Friday and I am keeping 40 florin for a better price.
1000 florin reward a month and if no new buy support florin has enough canon fodder for 10 days above 100k sats without new buyers but worse if more sellers. Lower the block remuneration to 0.01 and this problem goes away.
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A fluctuation in hodling and mining rewards to reflect the florin price, the higher the price the lower the reward. I will support a total remuneration of $1 per block.
It's not the mining , it's because 90% of the supply was purchased at €2. Most investors are up more then 5000% at this price. I think its miners. Based on the small amount of xfl per sell order. By the way another week gone and still not 40 euro like you predicted Bram? How much longer do i have to wait? Block reward remuneration is too good at this price. Drop the reward to 0.01 per block and the miners and holders will earn the same value at $1300, decrease max supply to 145000 to home run the idea it's a coin for scarcity. Double or triple the Gulden trough reward to pay for development, that Gulden community is mentally trained to take abuse and they will like the idea. imho
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A fluctuation in hodling and mining rewards to reflect the florin price, the higher the price the lower the reward. I will support a total remuneration of $1 per block.
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Florin has the potential to go top 200 because you have great development combined with wealthy investors but these investors have all the power to determine the course of Gulden but they also the ones paying for development.
Hate to burst your bubble mate but not seeing anything wealthy in this market. It's a house of cards that can collapse any minute. Wealthy investors and less then 1 btc in buy order to 10% of the current price. Your definition of wealthy and mine are completely different. Patience limey... serious pumpamentals signs are brewing.
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Small test earlier to confirm 500k sats is the bottom. We shall witness a price soon above 1mil sats, +100% profit gauranteed in the short term. Pumpamentals remain strong, green candles imminent.
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Gulden remains strong and will be successful in the long term. Florin is store of value, to hold and see your wealth grow and is the coin I will first invest in if I didn't have Gulden or Florin, but try invest in both.
Gulden is dead and Florin is good investment at under €40 , too many people got in cheap. Gulden is on a perpetual death spiral but enough about that has been of a coin. Florin is ready for ultimate glory, don't miss the boat because it's not turning back.
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Interim solution to maintain value , double the Gulden dev trough from 65 to 130 to cover development for both coins and bring forward the Florin halving by 3 years. Florin miner and holder rewards are out of proportion when the price is over $500, a halving will nullify this problem when the coin resumes it's next shuttle launch.
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